I disagree he was the classic Barry Allen from the 60s' so his show in 1990 or whenever just fit. Remember Grants version isn't how Flash was always portrayed

@@LilMissiSombra grant is post crisis barry

That wasn’t Jay, that quote is from Barry from 90’s flash.

@@Calactic same actor.

​@@jaredconley808yes but it's still a different character

Wrong guy

I mean, Star Girl is Geoff Johns' own creation, he surely treats it as his own child.

@@shinyanakagawa8241 That's not what this is about. Todd helbing is the showrunner of S&L which is CW's best DC show but Todd didn't create Clark and Lois' characters. It's about handling the characters, the writing and everything well which that show and Stargirl did, even Arrow did in its final season, but not flash.

@@parthrikhi6592 yeah, you are talking about Star Girl and Geoff Johns and him giving the show and some of JSA characters he created a good send off. I am just agreeing with you here. Johns is a better writer than Wallace, I love his JSA comics, it sucks that we are never getting any Power Girl and Liberty Bell action on screen .

And Flash's own ending wasn't satisfying? Are you sure you're not just butthurt about the Ls the speedsters villains took rather than the whole episode and the ending itself? Barry and Iris became finally parents and welcomed Nora to the world. We didn't see her get erased from existence nor Bart either. Khione stick to her guns and left the team, restoring along the way Caitlin who they all thought was dead but in the end she got reunited and made up with Barry after how things were left of in Season 8. They threw a party for baby Nora, Joe got his own happy ending by announcing his marriage with Cecile and finally Barry put a cool spin on the whole dumb "he becomes the lightning that struck him in the pilot" theory by actually throwing one to choose the new line up of Flash Family members with actual characters from the comics as he continues running like a guardian angel. You consider all that a disappointing ending? Be serious. Even Eddie's was good because it changed the whole status quo of the dynamic between the Speed Force and the Negative counterpart by making them reach a truce. Instead of killing him again, a new door was opened for him as he handles his mixed feelings for Barry while at the same time not giving into that hatred nor allowing anything to manipulate him. That was bad? Hell you're in a Jay Garrick related video and not even him was done dirty in the finale, he owned Cobalt Blue like a boss. So again, I wonder, how exactly was this a bad ending unless you were rooting for the evil speedsters? Be real.

​@@rosariomariadelpilarbenavidesm Sounds like you're in denial. It was bad. Nora being born and the final run were the only good parts of the episode. Rest was garbage.

yes

Yes, he did in elseworlds crossover

You sound slow

He thought he was his father after asking if he was Jay.

yes they met in elseworlds and crisis on infinite earths

Theres more screentime of him, this video is only about Jay using his speed/powers

@@chrisdlsp4382 Oh yeah good point

Yeah, I never understood that. Maybe it wasn't much of a shun but more of it being awkward for 2 Barry's to be there. I would have loved to see that play out. Do an episode just on Savitar and how everything went down

I've seen the logic of "they wanted to care about him the same as normal Barry, but considering he was a clone with a scar it just started to be awkward, and they started to default to non remnant Barry." Although honestly, I'd put good odds that society as a whole was significantly worse to Savitar Barry, and then he just kinda projected that hurt onto the loved ones who were slowly seeming less and less interested with dealing with him. Essentially, they screwed up in a minor way, society screwed him up worse, and he took it out on them since they were the ones who were supposed to be there for him.

That's how alternative timeline work. They don't make any sense often...

It was because only barry seemed to get speed back when they remade the speed force at the time (i think).

@@joshuazeppeli5199 I don't think so. Because Wally still had his speed when they rebooted thee Speed Force.

@@jeannguyen3199 Jay made his own artificial speed force off screen ig🤷🏽‍♂️

@@Al-Raees Definitely not.

@@jeannguyen3199 idk it could be he didn’t show up in S6 post crisis and S7 until episode 17 maybe during that period of time he would’ve gotten his speed back via ASF or smth

Might be another version of Jay from the new multiverse

We knew about the multiverse from Crisis on Infinite Earths, and yes, it's the same Jay

@@Nick-fz5pf not impossible Jay lives on prime earth stargirl is from earth 9 in the new multiverse so it doesn't make sense

@Beni Mpanu Jay brings it up to Bart in one of the episodes

@@benimpanu4405 Stargirl is on Earth-2

I didn't, because Jay wasn't fighting back

@@rafaelridolph mainly cuz he couldn’t he was getting his ass handed to much lol

Becuz it's basically barry kicking his dad's ass

which clip haha

I was about to comment this but you did ahead of me.

He doesn't use his speed then