Me too lynn

@@shanenolan8252 I figure if we can't afford to outright suggest these things, it doesn't hurt to show what there is an interest in. Then maybe one of the folks that can afford it will see the idea, and think "hey, yeah, I wanna see that too."

@@lynngreen7978 agreed lynn . And a good suggestion is usually appreciated.

The 22nd century is an interesting period though some powers are more well rounded than others.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 I mean, UE is pretty much rounded- saucers and globes stuck onto engineering sections for days.

What ship might that be?

@@venomgeekmedia9886 ; The Kamchatka.

@@occultatumquaestio5226 "Do you see torpedo boats?"

I cannot support the United States arming Ukraine with heavy weapons in advanced weapons prolonging the war and prolonging suffering all the Ukrainian government had to do was promise not to join NATO that's it and stop cutting off water and vital supplies to the ethnically Russian people in the dombasque

Klingons are highly aggressive and suseptable to rash action if they feel dishonored or mocked. This suggested they are suseptable to being goaded into traps.

@@177SCmaro The Klingons are aggressive I will give them that but if you show great power to the the Klingons with your own aggressiveness of large and powerful ships that sucker punch them from time to time like the Romulons do to let them know who is daddy with their over sized war birds the Klingons seem to stay on their own side of the border and respect you. The problem with Starfleet is with Klingons is they show weakness by playing nice with them. The UFP needs to take a page from the Romulons handbook with their galaxy class starships and give them a nose bleed when needed. Klingons are like unruly kids that get out of hand and run over you if you don't spank them and put them in their place.

Have superior logistics and force them into a long war of attrition. Focus on raising and counter raiding, fighting only where you are strong.

Yeah it's interesting to think about how their starship development was influenced by the different foes they faced.

dude don't even get me started...

don't worry im gonna make a whole rant on that one day...

I always wanted the Federation, Klingon, and Romulan fleets to have more diversity instead of the same ships over and over again.

@@starbugmechanic5236 yeah a shame we didn't get as much variety in TNG and DS9 as we did in enterprise, limits of the technology.

Till STD Ent was the worse in continuity errors

well in fact the klingons could be said to be ahead of the romulans. given that the romulans lose their war with earth. i think its fair to say they were lagging behind for much of the 22nd and 23rd century.

I've been thinking about that too. To distinguish the different houses.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Yes, exactly. It's littery a plate form for some nice artistic opportunities.

All you need to do is look at the size of the vulcan ships!

i Already have somewhat covered 23rd century doctrine in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9GFgsmEs93PlI0.html and 24th century doctrine in this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrF4Z5pqvdrZqZc.html

@@venomgeekmedia9886 thanks

I agree. Discovery sucks where star trek has never sucked before. Discovery is like an ugly girl one went on a date with in their past they don't want anybody to know about. I had to quit watching it to save self respect. LOL.

Just watching helps. By contributing to the ad revenue that I'll be donating

@@venomgeekmedia9886 venom, if I put the video on repeat loop does it class as multiple views or just one view revenue wise? If it's the former I'll put the video on loop when i'm afk to help.

@@grimmfandango832 i guess so. youtube now counts video playback from the mobile homepage as a view (So if your on the YT homepage and a video starts autoplaying thats a view now.)

@@venomgeekmedia9886 thankyou

Uncertain. Perhaps a common ancestor. Or long term cultural exchange. My idea is to show that often the borders between different nations can get blurry.

Yeah the D5 like I say shenanigans

@@venomgeekmedia9886 some andromeda ascendant level spaceship grappling from the nx enterprise

Any state that falls to outside invasion always rises again, its only civil wars or internal division that makes empires fall .

That would probably just be a subset of the crew.

Because neither of them fought the klingons in that time.

Well because the D5 would almost always be supported by other torpedo-ships. But the raptor might go off on its own.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 fair enough, she was a very impressive ship i was watching that episode recently Columbia and enterprise, couldn't take them , although it was mostly enterprise white Columbia dealt with the escorts, and harrasedthe crusader but in the end both enterprise and Colombia were disabled and the Klingon ships were operable.

@@shanenolan8252 yeah and that bird of prey is pretty meaty too. The augments gave enterprise a run for their money. And in that battle its 2 BOPs

@@venomgeekmedia9886 yes

Those were more in the 21st century and by the 22nd century was no longer viable.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Oh...well that's a little dissapointing...so are the shots of them flying alongside D-4s and the like just...no?

@@geekiusmaximus1882 no there would be a overlap period where you'd see both together.

Maybe. since 2016 the vulcans had kept the klingons at bay.

You shut your mouth! 😉

yes ;)

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Based.

Hard to tell. I feel like it was more a political union rather than act of conquest probably in the 24th century

@@venomgeekmedia9886 it's was probably that I can't remember where the gorn hegemony was but it was probably romulan aggression or federation influence

@@ashleyhedley maps i've seen put the klingons between the romulans and gorn. so not likely. i'd guess it would be some point after 2370 when the klingons start looking like a Superpower again.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 that would be the mid TNG era when Picard was just becoming the captain of the enterprise if I'm right or am I getting my dates wrong lol

@@ashleyhedleytng starts in 2364 and finishes 2371

But in size it's a cruiser.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 a scout cruiser then

@@swssm4741 or just... light cruiser.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 fair enough then

@@venomgeekmedia9886 how do you think a 3 nacelled torpedo heavy battle cruiser would have faired in TOS

some will. the orions are scattered across dozens of worlds in the quadrant. some end up in the federation, others in the klingon empire.

@@venomgeekmedia9886 yes i always thought they were technically a neutral power , a trade culture like rygel a neutral protectorate after the federation perhaps, it seems like Orions can join Starfleet, like other non member species if recommended. But its the syndicate thats a problem and irs a multi national organisation and a black market in federation space .

@@venomgeekmedia9886 So planets or parts but not whole

@@45580677 yep

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Just for the heck of it how would you redo the next generation era by any chance

That is a flaw in a lot of the ships used by the powers except for the Vulkans and Earth. It's not a bad strategy for hit and run tactics. It's just 22nd century Klingons didn't have the tech to mitigate the issues of the hull configurations.

Holy shit, what a bootlicker. Putin doesn't know who you are.