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The Freedom of Hate Speech; a Call for Civil Dialogue | Katia Campbell | TEDxMSUDenver

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4 жыл бұрын

From an early age many children in the United States are taught that all opinions are valid and equal. When it comes to hateful ideology and hate speech, that becomes a problem. Free speech does not mean freedom from consequences, yet we are in an era where hateful ideologies are now being considered as valid political opinions and are given a platform at the highest levels in our country. This talk discusses the need to understand our responsibilities when it comes to free speech and the consequences of unfettered hate speech in our culture. We need to critically interrogate the validity of all ideas and get back to privileging reason and argument when it comes to freedom of speech. It is also important to engage in civil dialogue with people who do not always share our same worldview. Katia Campbell is an Associate Professor at Metropolitan State University of Denver. She earned her doctoral degree from the University of Denver in the areas of Rhetoric, Diversity, and Media Studies.
Her scholarship and teaching focuses on rhetoric, free speech, cultural representation, popular media, and critical pedagogy. She also consults and facilitates workshops on Communication and Diversity, Media Literacy, Free Speech, Public Speaking, and Dialogic Ethics. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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@TheBighatter
@TheBighatter 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not advocating for censorship..." I just don't think you should be allowed to say things I find offensive.
@TheBighatter
@TheBighatter 4 жыл бұрын
@I Will Rock Your Face! Thank you for providing an example of ridiculous speech that I personally disagree with, but that I will defend your right to say.
@drsoups
@drsoups 4 жыл бұрын
She never says certain idea shouldn't be allowed to be said. She said certain ideas aren't worth being said based on how informed they are. In no way do I see that as censorship. I'm curious on what you see it though
@awsumpchits
@awsumpchits 4 жыл бұрын
@@drsoups and who's going to judge how informed I am?
@drsoups
@drsoups 4 жыл бұрын
Nick Nicholson Its not something that can necessarily be judged effectively especially because of each person's inherant bias. However, whether or not an opinion is well informed can still be at least determined at basic level based on legitimate logical deduction. For example, whether or not their arguments are fallacious or if the reasoning they are using for their arguments is legitimate, and/or if they actually prove their point.
@peterbelanger4094
@peterbelanger4094 4 жыл бұрын
@@drsoups That is true. She does not suggest censorship, she suggests open , logical dialog. I don't think many people here actually watched the video all the way through.
@Gapeh0rn
@Gapeh0rn 4 жыл бұрын
Start of speech : “ I... am a victim of mean words” *turns off video *
@stevenplace3108
@stevenplace3108 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Synapsidofficial
@Synapsidofficial 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think she said this exact phrase. Can you give me a time stamp?
@Chilcutte
@Chilcutte 3 жыл бұрын
You have the depth of understanding of a goldfish.
@SpacedOut997
@SpacedOut997 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you're not willing to become informed before forming your opinion, then your onion does not have value
@SpacedOut997
@SpacedOut997 3 жыл бұрын
@Channel 9 OÑO
@znerolz
@znerolz 4 жыл бұрын
Ptediction: she will be for censoring until she is censored; then she will blame huyite pepo for shutting her down.
@ivanl.6797
@ivanl.6797 4 жыл бұрын
What? You didn't watch the video?
@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082
@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 4 жыл бұрын
That woman is a professional victim.
@dimenizzle
@dimenizzle 3 жыл бұрын
she said she's against censorship.
@honkamania1174
@honkamania1174 4 жыл бұрын
I believe in the principle of free speech.
@postnutauthoritarian
@postnutauthoritarian 4 жыл бұрын
@Real Communism this man is a troll
@Birrrrra
@Birrrrra 4 жыл бұрын
@Real Communism ignore him. Leftists coming from there echo chambers don't recognize the truth when they see it
@supersani21
@supersani21 4 жыл бұрын
@Real Communism Don't lump her in with all women. There are many who do act as advocates for free speech. The Radical Left all in all would curb your free speech only because it would offend them
@Density9
@Density9 3 жыл бұрын
@@supersani21 Radical libtard
@ichoosefreedom9321
@ichoosefreedom9321 Жыл бұрын
@@supersani21 yup! Anyone with a working brain would easily be able to see right away that she’s attacking our right to free speech. This channel is a joke. Always against our god given rights
@SconnerStudios
@SconnerStudios 4 жыл бұрын
TEDx having someone who wants to control thought and speech undermines the very concept of TEDx talks. I don't think they should condemn this video or apologize like the SJWs have, but I won't be watching anymore if there are any future videos like this. Not to mention this video dramatizes this girl's life who she just sucks the suffering her parents went through, which even they don't sound like they lived that rough lives relative to their contemporaries. The community coming together IS freedom of speech because they chose to exchange the thoughts that there was something morally wrong. This videos deserves every downvote it gets. DOWNFINGAS!
@fatbrownbuffalo2769
@fatbrownbuffalo2769 4 жыл бұрын
What?! Future videos like this? These people have been promoting psychos for 2 or 3 years.
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 4 жыл бұрын
What is the very concept of TEDx talks. The way I understand it, excluding unpopular opinions (look at the like bar), would be going against the very concept of TEDx talks.
@fatbrownbuffalo2769
@fatbrownbuffalo2769 4 жыл бұрын
@@schwarzerritter5724 I thought it was supposed to be about technology entertainment and design.
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 4 жыл бұрын
@@fatbrownbuffalo2769 If that is what this is about then it lost itself a long time ago.
@fatbrownbuffalo2769
@fatbrownbuffalo2769 4 жыл бұрын
@@schwarzerritter5724 Can't argue with that. Seems like the talks are becoming more focused on MSM narrative.
@Gooseman2k2
@Gooseman2k2 4 жыл бұрын
This woman's speech is hateful and offensive... She must be silenced for my dignity!
@benny1520
@benny1520 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed gooseman
@cvern
@cvern 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, hypocrisy
@marcog.182
@marcog.182 4 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to TED talks being intellectual and interesting?
@annonymeandfish
@annonymeandfish 4 жыл бұрын
Marco Galindo x means independently organized event. Anybody can do this.
@brandonhill2183
@brandonhill2183 4 жыл бұрын
@@annonymeandfish you don't get his comment
@MichaelS-vy1ku
@MichaelS-vy1ku 4 жыл бұрын
@@annonymeandfish No, when conservatives try to do this the radical leftists riot so TEDx charges prohibitively expensive for security fees effectively silencing right wing voices with violence.
@CausalityLoop
@CausalityLoop 4 жыл бұрын
TEDx is not TED.
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 3 жыл бұрын
If freedom of speech has the right to offend, then be ready for its consequences. Nothing in this world is free, we are bound by our body and death. It is pure human ignorance to assume and truly believe that there are no consequences.
@nicholasdaley7041
@nicholasdaley7041 4 жыл бұрын
I am offended by your speech......now what?
@drsoups
@drsoups 4 жыл бұрын
Then have your comment actually say why you are offended by it so people can have a legitimate and civil discussion about it like she is calling for.
@nicholasdaley7041
@nicholasdaley7041 4 жыл бұрын
@@drsoups When you control the bounds of speech to the point grievances cannot be expressed, those effected resort to violence. Speech may be violence, but it is the least deadly. We need it to operate in the world. So, her judgement and curtailing of accepted speech, is offensive. Thereby, by her own declared standards, should be banned.
@drsoups
@drsoups 4 жыл бұрын
nicholas daley I disagree that she is saying people should control the bounds of what speech is being said, I believe her word is being misinterpreted. She calls for civil discussion on speech that one disagrees with, and argues that ill-informed opinions *shouldn't* be in the marketplace of ideas. But she is not calling for active suppression and censorship or said ideas.
@nicholasdaley7041
@nicholasdaley7041 4 жыл бұрын
@@drsoups You have the right to risk being offensive. You also have the right to be wrong.
@nicholasdaley7041
@nicholasdaley7041 4 жыл бұрын
@@drsoups Like I said, you have a right to be wrong.
@zaprowsdower
@zaprowsdower 4 жыл бұрын
oh muh community. "Community " is the most over used word to set up virtue signalling. Grow a pair lady.
@eliashcroft6773
@eliashcroft6773 3 жыл бұрын
I love to see that you support ladies with pairs :D Trans and Intersex rights!
@temporalsingularity4264
@temporalsingularity4264 4 жыл бұрын
So.....she was attacked by a gang of adverbs?
@dejp9619
@dejp9619 4 жыл бұрын
Those goddamn adverbs! Makes me sick to my stomach
@michaelregis1015
@michaelregis1015 3 жыл бұрын
And a mafia of adjectives.
@joethestrat
@joethestrat 4 жыл бұрын
If speech is violence to you, congrats. You've lived an incredibly sheltered life. Some of us know first-hand what exactly "violence" is, and words could never ever match the pain and terror. Never.
@eliashcroft6773
@eliashcroft6773 3 жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly. I am glad to see you understand that hate speech causes violence, and how important it is to end both things.
@KingAries85
@KingAries85 2 жыл бұрын
@@eliashcroft6773 yup what you just said offended me now I’m gonna be violent towards you you should be in jail for it too … only weak and simple minded people will let others words control your actions
@blacklotus432
@blacklotus432 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@james0805
@james0805 11 ай бұрын
Hate speech usually leads to violence
@idolsrule4678
@idolsrule4678 4 жыл бұрын
Who else is waiting until comments get blocked?
@seditt5146
@seditt5146 4 жыл бұрын
I kind of hope it is, who here does not realize immediately something is wrong in a video as soon as they see comments turned off?
@nunyabizness9045
@nunyabizness9045 4 жыл бұрын
We are living in difficult times? Wow sounds like someone has blinders on their eyes
@Kryder401
@Kryder401 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds just like someone who has not lived through difficult times or traveled somewhere that people are really living in difficult times. Ignorance develops people like this.
@Ludoovik
@Ludoovik 4 жыл бұрын
She isn't aware of the modern western world life comfort. Send her back to the dark age
@ichoosefreedom9321
@ichoosefreedom9321 Жыл бұрын
Haha this chick is insane.
@ravenwhiteduck3158
@ravenwhiteduck3158 4 жыл бұрын
My worry is that this "hate speech" could easily be misused down the line, what would be classified as "hate speech" and what would be the punishment, not only that but it just sounds very much like one of my jolly old Orwellian nightmares
@katiacampbell3737
@katiacampbell3737 4 жыл бұрын
Raven Whiteduck I respect your concern and recognize that it is a difficult issue. This is why I definitely do not support censorship . I do think the issue of hate speech is still one we need to recognize, address, and talk about though as it does impact our society and our communities. Thanks for your comment. Ignoring it or pretending it isn’t real, as some on this thread desperately want to do, won’t get us to a better place as a diverse and democratic culture. But yes, I have Orwellian nightmares too so I do understand where you are coming from.
@Thexdmattx
@Thexdmattx 4 жыл бұрын
Could easily be misused? It's used to try to ruin people's lives every day NOW.
@cthomaspeasant3059
@cthomaspeasant3059 4 жыл бұрын
@@katiacampbell3737 With all the times "Hate Speech" is used to censor or jail people for things said online regardless of context, I'm not convinced that "Hate Speech" is anything more than just a means to get around the 1st Amendment for the sake of creating/controlling narratives.
@angrytheclown801
@angrytheclown801 4 жыл бұрын
@@katiacampbell3737 You challenge that speech Katia. Not through fists like some groups do, but through your own words and debate. Someone will always have something to say you don't like or is in fact hateful. Sadly, that is the way of the human beast. But you win by moving people to your side with words and peaceful acts. In fact, through this speech you DO support censorship. It's despicable. Like I said in my on its own post, by your own standards you should be quiet. That's how this game works. What we find acceptable today is tomorrow's ill informed and hateful. Now do I truly want you silenced? No. Because if you are silenced then I run the risk of being silenced as well. But don't tell us you're against censorship when you just had a pro censorship talk.
@ravenwhiteduck3158
@ravenwhiteduck3158 4 жыл бұрын
@@katiacampbell3737 do you see what lawmakers do when their are new laws in place? They add more and more rules to it until it's barely understandable, people getting fined for having the wrong tree in their backyard, kids getting stopped by the cops for selling lemonade, you will inevitably cause far more harm then good should this "hate speech" be taken to either a provincial or federal level, I mean do we wanna end up like china who've censored winnie the pooh
@Thedavidcrag
@Thedavidcrag 4 жыл бұрын
That part when she says only informed opinions have value. Wow, talk about self awareness
@FoxMcLoud-pt5ho
@FoxMcLoud-pt5ho 2 жыл бұрын
Limited free speech is not free speech, conditional rights are not rights
@CrysWats
@CrysWats 2 жыл бұрын
And... with that “free” does not mean without consequences. @fox
@KingAries85
@KingAries85 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrysWats right so stop trying to censor everyone you don’t agree with because you opinion offended me now it’s hate speech you should go to jail.. see how dangerous that is when you take away free speech
@CrysWats
@CrysWats 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingAries85 lol what? Where did I say take away free speech? Everybody has choices. With those choices come consequences. Consequences could be good or bad.
@ichoosefreedom9321
@ichoosefreedom9321 Жыл бұрын
So happy to see most people defending free speech. Thank you all for this.
@crownjewles
@crownjewles 4 жыл бұрын
Here before the memes
@mikelowery6732
@mikelowery6732 4 жыл бұрын
I like how her favorite philosophers are the sophists: Sophistry: the use of fallacious arguments, especially with the intention of deceiving.
@wates123
@wates123 Жыл бұрын
When education fails, fall upon persuasion
@ivanl.6797
@ivanl.6797 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I thought I was predominantly alone in this idea, that hate speech should be battled with arguments, logic and civility, not with censorship.
@worldgonemad5866
@worldgonemad5866 4 жыл бұрын
She is trying to tell people they dont understand the first amendment....I didnt realize she was a comedian.
@likilikiki
@likilikiki 4 жыл бұрын
She is so happy to be a proffesional "victim" it's unbelievable.
@ichoosefreedom9321
@ichoosefreedom9321 Жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha yeah definitely not a shill bag
@taylore6582
@taylore6582 4 жыл бұрын
TED talk by CNN should be the title
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 4 жыл бұрын
> I am strong > I am a victim of speech L M A O?
@Enumclaw
@Enumclaw 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if she realizes that Socrates and Plato hated the sophists for twisting the truth, exactly like she is doing.
@blckysocratessuicid5203
@blckysocratessuicid5203 4 жыл бұрын
@Captain Jack yeah this chick made my brain hurt really really bad, she's an up-and-coming race Hustler 😬🤐🤫
@joethestrat
@joethestrat 4 жыл бұрын
"All ideas are equally valid and true"......?!?!?!! Yeah, no. Wrong. I knew participation trophies were a bad idea. I knew it.
@drsoups
@drsoups 4 жыл бұрын
Prot She's saying NOT all ideas are equally valid and true
@ronn4238
@ronn4238 4 жыл бұрын
13 minutes of "I don't understand free speech, so you shouldn't have it."... Thanks, Tedx. 😒
@michaelcarter1805
@michaelcarter1805 4 жыл бұрын
Who’s here from Sinatra says
@walkawaycat431
@walkawaycat431 4 жыл бұрын
Professional Noobs. Me!!
@hustledude
@hustledude 4 жыл бұрын
Me, I saw his brilliant response video first and that’s what sent me here.
@avshar372
@avshar372 4 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as hate speech. The things you want to censor will not always be your list, do YOU want aomeone else to dictate what you can say then?
@drsoups
@drsoups 4 жыл бұрын
Avshara Grastus How is she calling for censorship?
@jamesmabry5776
@jamesmabry5776 3 жыл бұрын
@QED FACT: Explicit calls to violence and murder are threats not hate speech. Prove me wrong.
@jamesmabry5776
@jamesmabry5776 3 жыл бұрын
@QED FACT: The term hate speech is not in any local, state or federal law anywhere in the USA. Prove me wrong.
@KingAries85
@KingAries85 2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it perfectly
@KingAries85
@KingAries85 2 жыл бұрын
@@drsoups well when you fight to take away someone’s right to say something because your weak and broken is censorship. When In fact letting someone else’s words control your actions is weak and childish .. no wonder so many of you are ok with letting the government think for you
@agent_exodus
@agent_exodus 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when tedx was interesting... and thought provoking.. guess that’s all over with now.. How many more nice things will be destroyed by the victim hustling? I guess this is why we can’t have nice things...
@daniellassander
@daniellassander 4 жыл бұрын
What are you even talking about, freedom of speech is something that we can not just dispense with because someone heard words they disagree with. That sounds to me like the absolute worst idea i have ever heard in a very long time. Its a fair question to ask me why obviously but please allow me to explain why, the only way you can control what people say is through laws, what kind of a tool have you just given the politicians? The perfect weapon to silence their opposition and ban even their ideas. Democracy is dead and the wonderful dictatorship can finally begin. Never ever will i agree with this, i would give my life to stop this from happening happily.
@joethestrat
@joethestrat 4 жыл бұрын
Id stand next to you for it too, even if it cost me my life as well. If we don't take a stand and defend the document that protects our freedoms and way of life, when should we take a stand?!?!!
@annyceday
@annyceday 4 жыл бұрын
Katia Campbell, I will ask you if your ideology is one of hate and intolerance? Please sight facts and not your feelings. You are defeated by your own words, by quoting free market place of idea's and then you go on to infer your ideas are superior to others and we must sensor and bury any ideology that conflicts with your own. That your skin color empowers you by your past and present oppression, does your skin color not give you the platform on which you speak? You are a well-educated college professor, you are privileged, not oppressed. Diversity of thought should be your first and last premiss.
@Aleksamson
@Aleksamson 4 жыл бұрын
''Directed to historically marginalized group'' ? Hate can be directed to any human being. You can degrade and dehumanize historically privileged group.
@tommywilson9836
@tommywilson9836 4 жыл бұрын
I'm embarrassed this happened in my city but am glad the community had a chance to understand exactly how INSANE this is.
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm strong. I'm a victim. My parents gave me a backbone. I'm a victim. I'm not for censorship but I want to make the cost of free speech prohibitive. I'm a victim. Hate speech is something only other people can be guilty of because I say so. I'm a victim." Someone needs to explain to her that this tactic is no longer effective.
@micchaelsanders6286
@micchaelsanders6286 2 жыл бұрын
I literally spit my coffee out laughing. This is exactly the narcissistic insanity the left is presenting as serious argumentation. We’re well on our way to living in 1984.
@KingAries85
@KingAries85 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly it
@gallectee6032
@gallectee6032 Жыл бұрын
I think it's ironic how all of those in favor of hate speech are not those who have experienced it's consequences. Hate speech isn't just about speech, it's that those words only mean one thing. Which is that whichever race/religion/etc is hated on, should be harmed and discriminated against in some manner. That is literally it's entire point. It inevitably leads to violence against that race/religion/etc. Of course it's an easy choice when you experience none of those consequences and don't have to face the nazis and get to use dum dum lines like "you can't handle words!". I'm not saying it should therefore be banned. I'm saying that there are multiple things to take into account and it's not that straight forward if you are not a sadistic sociopath. For example, the UN provides alternative methods: "States can also use alternative tools - such as education and promoting counter-messages - to address the whole spectrum of hateful expression, both on and offline." But as we all know, an additional consideration must take place, which is that this is the last thing that the US government would do.
@RellDefinition
@RellDefinition 4 жыл бұрын
Is she serious?
@darthrevan704
@darthrevan704 4 жыл бұрын
Adderrell sadly yes she is deadly serious
@TheBighatter
@TheBighatter 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, yep.
@skalpel303
@skalpel303 4 жыл бұрын
She never explained how her parents were terrorized. And hate speech isn't exclusive to 'historically marginalized' people.
@Victor-tl4dk
@Victor-tl4dk 11 ай бұрын
Stopping hate speech is a social and personal responsibility thing- not a government thing. It takes love, "compassion," and "respect." That being said, although the government has red line of "direct violence." My "personal" red line is dehumanizing someone ie. not calling them human. Sometimes, sadly, we have "red lines."
@user-qo7ul3wm1g
@user-qo7ul3wm1g 4 жыл бұрын
They lettin errbody and they mama give a Ted talk 😂😂
@sebi9225
@sebi9225 4 жыл бұрын
“Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes” - Big Man Tyrone
@michal31131
@michal31131 4 жыл бұрын
This woman is absolutely entitled and privileged if mere words are what she's trying to fight against! Some women on this earth are still fighting for the right not to be sold or auctioned off like property.
@TransparencyandMerit
@TransparencyandMerit 2 жыл бұрын
This women is an egotist at best a narcissist at worst
@jasonbolding3481
@jasonbolding3481 4 жыл бұрын
She misquotes *brandenburg v ohio* , speech that causes violence would be the disfavored fighting words doctrine. *Brandenburg* says the speach has to **incite** imminent lawless action
@BurtMeister
@BurtMeister 4 жыл бұрын
This lady doesn't understand the first amendment clearly. ANY notion of "hate speech" is an intention to violate the rights of the only minority that matters - the individual, via the consensus of the group/tribe/collective/mob. Her rhetoric is contradictory too.... "Speech is violence", " silence is violence". Words are not violence and neither is silence. Words are words and violence is violence. You have the right to one regardless, the other only in retaliation or by mutual consent. EDIT: Threat of violence:- A statement of violent intent - to cause physical harm to another. Incitement to violence:- A direct attempt to get others to carry out physical violence on your behalf.
@katiacampbell3737
@katiacampbell3737 4 жыл бұрын
BurtMeister3000 When exactly in my speech did I say speech is violence? When did I say silence is violence? Yes, I problematize rhetorical acts, but I would never simplify speech, or communication, in those ways. It is much more complex than that. I do recognize the persuasive and constitutive power of rhetoric, but your blanket criticism is a bit much. Please don’t put words in my mouth. And please know that what I say about hate speech is supported by many First Amendment scholars, critical theorists, and historians. It is unfortunate that you feel the need to insult me and my intellect because you obviously don’t like what I have to say.
@katiacampbell3737
@katiacampbell3737 4 жыл бұрын
BurtMeister3000 And in First Amendment theory, there is a concept known as “Speech Plus” or a “Speech Act”, which blurs the line between speech and action...this has been written about in case law. So before you baselessly assert “this lady clearly knows nothing about the First Amendment”, please stop and a do a little research for yourself.
@katiacampbell3737
@katiacampbell3737 4 жыл бұрын
BurtMeister3000 If you would like further understanding about the concept of speech acts, the following essays/books do a fantastic job of explaining the associated theories: Matsuda et al. “Words that Wound”, Judith Butler, “Excitable Speech”, and Catherine McKinnon, “Only Words”. You are welcome to disagree with their basic premises of course, but please don’t imply I have no idea what I’m talking about. In fact, you probably will disagree since you don’t think minority communities and experiences matter, only the individual matters as you stated, but it’s worth at least an attempt to consider a different perspective. Also, perhaps read up on the cases, “Dennis v U.S.”, “Schenk v U.S.,” and “Brandenburg v Ohio” for a more nuanced understanding of how we have historically and legally dealt with the question of speech and violence. Again, it is much more complex than you state.
@BurtMeister
@BurtMeister 4 жыл бұрын
@@katiacampbell3737 "When exactly in my speech did I say speech is violence? When did I say silence is violence?" Okay, maybe you didn't explicitly say that words are violence, but you do explicitly equate those being silent as being complicit with this made up notion of "hate speech" (which I do not recognize as legitimate in any way, shape or form).... 7:54 "Lets be clear about it, just because someone doesn't actively engage in hateful rhetoric doesn't mean they aren't complicit in it." 6:15 When you say "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence", exactly what consequence do you intend for the people who say things you do not like? I'm guessing when you advocate activism, you wish for via legislation some level of state based violence like imprisonment etc right? Which is what leads me to believe you equate words with violence. Now, where in my OP did I offer you or your intellect insult?
@BurtMeister
@BurtMeister 4 жыл бұрын
@@katiacampbell3737 There is no blur between words and action. There is a clear distinction between the two. Sure words can hurt your feelings, but you will survive. And their is no real objective way to prove in a court of law hurt feelings anyway as they are invisible and we only have one parties claim to rely on.
@thepatriarchy8443
@thepatriarchy8443 4 жыл бұрын
Banning hate speech: because we all know that the intention of the first amendment was to protect our right to share cat videos on social media.
@tc3628
@tc3628 4 жыл бұрын
And what would the modern woman know about responsibility? Nothing.
@bigfanminecraft
@bigfanminecraft 4 жыл бұрын
eh, about as much as a modern man
@alteriwnet5805
@alteriwnet5805 3 жыл бұрын
"I was a victim of free speech" Yeah i don't care
@JasonBokor
@JasonBokor 4 жыл бұрын
Synopsis: buzzword, buzzword, buzzword... there needs to be censorship of opinions I disagree with... buzzword, buzzword. The speaker's ideas are the real danger, but yet I will support her right to say them. I just wish it was reciprocal.
@Nemesis-lg6zf
@Nemesis-lg6zf 4 жыл бұрын
'Free speech does not mean freedom from consequences,' Actually it kinda does; How does a tyrannical dictatorship silence free speech? With consequences.
@CriticalThinking83
@CriticalThinking83 4 жыл бұрын
Katia, I respect that you are not advocating for censorship, however that begs the question of where do we set the bar for accountability in speech? For instance: without reading his patient's chart, a doctor tells his patient that she has cancer. She goes through years of chemo, only to find out that she never had cancer. He technically did not lie, as he never read the chart (this would be labeled as ignorance), yet he would still face malpractice, be found guilty, and possibly face jail time. Why is the same not true for public figures and media pundits? They are held by the public as reliable sources of information (much like the doctor), their words are taken at face value by millions, so should they too not face the same scrutiny and consequences when propagating false or ill informed ideas, or hate speech?
@mst5g826
@mst5g826 4 жыл бұрын
The job of scrutinizing these people is up to other people with a platform. And the job of protecting ourselves from bad ideas is ours. We do that by staying informed and talking to people. You will find that the more people you talk to, the more your ideas change as do theirs hopefully.
@ravenwhiteduck3158
@ravenwhiteduck3158 4 жыл бұрын
Wow no response, very telling
@CriticalThinking83
@CriticalThinking83 4 жыл бұрын
@@mst5g826 Then why do doctors lose their medical licenses and face prison time? News media pundits are the doctors of information. I'm not talking about the polarized talk show hosts, I'm talking about the main steam, prime time "news." When they misrepresent data, or leave out key facts in order to frame a information to fit their story. We don't let the doctor off the hook because his patient didn't do enough research about cancer, so why should that excuse work for the news pundits?
@mst5g826
@mst5g826 4 жыл бұрын
@@CriticalThinking83 If we're talking about the medical field, then the insurance companies would be a better comparison to the msm since they are owned by the same people in large conglomerates. The doctor would be a person with a platform such as independent YTube or paper reporters are to the msm. Just as new media is chosen by the viewer, the patient chooses a doctor who provides an informed diagnoses. You cannot know if your doctor is giving you good info unless you educate yourself and get multiple opinions. A doctor usually has to be similar to an A. Jones figure to lose their ability to provide service and they pop up in other places afterwards. With the insurance companies, we all know what their motive is and how far they will go to assert it by educating ourselves and knowing when to go outside of the insurance system. So, our main problem becomes a lack of education because there will always be a profit motive and soulless people willing to go to whatever lengths. Some of them get caught, but most know how to skirt the law. What can we do but learn to protect ourselves and look out for our friends and family? Beyond that, we can talk to people and spread ideas that don't originate from the elite. It is almost a guarantee that if we allow the gov to punish the media, it will be manipulated to advance their own protection and the flow of ideas will narrow even further than what social dictates allow. You already understand enough to not trust the media. That's a lot farther than most still, especially among older generations. Her best point is to learn rhetoric as the ancients propose in the trivium style. I'm not saying you should study the Greeks, but go out and practice talking to people with whom you would not generally share ideals. The action itself is educational. The most important part of this for yourself is to test your own beliefs. Recognize the assumptions made and built upon by your own ideas while you are trying to break down their assumptions. One will continually find that they have to go back to think and research which will strengthen your understanding. If you were able to have a human conversation, both parties will come back the next time with better understanding and a better debate. The more points of view you find on a subject, the more you understand a subject. And the ultimate truth is that no one has 'the' right answer. But the more ideas that are tested, the closer we all get.
@katiacampbell3737
@katiacampbell3737 4 жыл бұрын
Soccer Is a communist sport What are you referring to? I guess I lost the order of the comments. We don’t what? And in terms of our system being fine, that is debatable. Sure it’s fine for those that continuously benefit from it, but that doesn’t mean we can’t want to make the system better for more people.
@ByerTheDruid
@ByerTheDruid 4 жыл бұрын
Free speech harms nothing. Actual violence does and we have laws against it. I disagree with her, is that free speach or hate speach? Under her ideology, who gets to decide if not for free speach?
@chordfunc3072
@chordfunc3072 4 жыл бұрын
4:06 "The truth comes through the clash of arguments. It does not come through the form of ill-informed opinions". I'm sorry but this is just thickheaded. It's not like arguments just emerge fully formed out of the blue. Also, most arguments are opinions. You have to be pretty big-headed to only consider your side of an argument to be factual and any argument you disagree with as merely "ill-informed opinions". This is why I really don't want to call my self a lefty any more. The left is just so totalitarian, and abusive and unwilling to consider arguments that contradicts its current stands.
@Cecilia-ky3uw
@Cecilia-ky3uw 2 жыл бұрын
I think republicans are wrong, but we should not be silencing them
@robinte98
@robinte98 4 жыл бұрын
Hate Speech nowadays is just a justification for censoring opinions you don't agree with. It is a subjective word by its definition. Why should it only be hate speech, when it's directed towards minorities? You want a free marketplace of opinions and talk about how higher powers are controlling them. At the same time you want to censor that marketplace. People like you are the power that censors the marketplace of opinions. It is only a free marketplace if every opinion is allowed there, even if it is generally agreed on to be hate speech. Challenge the idea of hate speech and see for yourself if it makes sense as an objective measure. It doesn't. It is SUBJECTIVELY defined and a general idea of what hate speech is, is actually made up by people with a higher social status.
@katiacampbell3737
@katiacampbell3737 4 жыл бұрын
Robin Tesmer Um, yeah...I specifically said I was against censorship and I said it again, repeatedly, throughout this thread. But you’ll hear and believe what makes you feel comfortable. Sure, hate speech is made up by people with a higher social status. Sure, that makes sense, despite research and experience and case studies to the contrary. Thanks so much for explaining this to me. How dare I even talk about such a made up thing. Shame on me.
@data-hz5sp
@data-hz5sp 4 жыл бұрын
@@katiacampbell3737 Hate Speech is Free Speech.
@RaisonDetre96
@RaisonDetre96 2 жыл бұрын
"From an early age many children in the United States are taught that all opinions are valid and equal". That statement is just patently untrue...she probably means that children are taught that people are all entitled to their own opinion and we should respect that freedom, which is certainly not the same statement. Call it whatever you want, but the second you try to legislate what is and isn't acceptable speech, or what "hate speech" is, you will find yourself on a quick route to authoritarianism where the powerful can simply decide what is hate speech and you will not be allowed to say anything contradictory to them. Hate speech is free speech. We have free speech not to simply talk about banal things, but to be able to say things that ARE controversial, even if they don't appeal to the sensibilities of some elitist, academic busybody who only wants more power.
@scottkohler8373
@scottkohler8373 4 жыл бұрын
She says that freedom of speech DOES NOT mean freedom of consequence or responsibility. Excuse me, does she truly believe that freedom of speech is truly free if you can be prosecuted for exercising that freedom? This displays a fundamental lack of understanding, which is troubling to say the least. She does not understand that the 1st amendment is a "protection" of your freedom of speech rights. Therefore, you are presented with no consequences for exercising that right, unless of course you are directly inciting violence. She believes that the freedom of speech is the action of your body allowing your mouth to work in conjunction with your tongue to form words that come out of your mouth. This is lunacy of course. Your freedom of speech is the state not being able to prosecute you for saying something that they may not like, and them protecting your ability to say these things in public. Her (mis)understanding of the 1st amendment is like a police officer standing right next to you, telling you that you can jaywalk if you want. And as you take your second step in a non-marked street, he immediately writes you up a ticket and tells you that you broke the law. It is very disturbing to see someone who could potentially be influential in our society to be this misled.
@ivanl.6797
@ivanl.6797 4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how there are so many comments criticizing the video, for things that are not in the video.. actually a bit the opposite.
@jamesmabry5776
@jamesmabry5776 3 жыл бұрын
I challenge you to show me just one critical comment that was about something that is not in the video.
@ivanl.6797
@ivanl.6797 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmabry5776 and how do you suggest me to show you one? I could just make up one, and what if you can't find it? Just look for one yourself and you tell me
@Avarice01
@Avarice01 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I could go back in a time machine and down vote it harder. Oh wait click... Click harder. Thats better.
@guillermobatalla6531
@guillermobatalla6531 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have to say *ANYTHING* about this video! The amount of dislikes speak for me!
@MysteriousAya
@MysteriousAya 4 жыл бұрын
I always love when these people talk about banning or stopping hate speech, especially the ones who want it done by force. What they NEVER realize is that 1. It would have to be spread equally across the board. Not just what they view as "hate speech." And 2, the most beautiful part in all of this, who is in power over the house and Congress right at that moment. If they enact ANY speech laws, for the sake of argument they can, who do you think will be disproportionately targeted for them? I can promise you it wouldnt be the people they think it would be.
@sunnyd4889
@sunnyd4889 4 жыл бұрын
WTF!!!! Tedx promoting censored thought and censoring speech. I thought that you were for presenting interesting/varied ideas/thoughts.
@ViktorScberg
@ViktorScberg 3 жыл бұрын
“In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.” Dr.Jordan B Peterson
@FoxMcLoud-pt5ho
@FoxMcLoud-pt5ho 2 жыл бұрын
Someone said he's a conman, I don't think you need me to tell you that that is BS!
@urmakinitworse
@urmakinitworse 4 жыл бұрын
By choosing to be offended by speech, you are empowering the speech, not yourself. If someone attacks you physically, or takes actions that affect your life then you protest. If someone says mean words... you ignore them. If a group of people hold mean beliefs... you ignore them. Their thoughts and their words can’t hurt you unless you let them hurt you. It’s literally one of the first things we are taught in school. Until you stop giving words power over your lives, you will perpetually be a “victim”
@NyxDream
@NyxDream Жыл бұрын
How about, stop being an a$$hole.. It costs you nothing.
@keeptexasfree7361
@keeptexasfree7361 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll fight you for my freedom lady.
@skalpel303
@skalpel303 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember 'sticks and stones can break my bones but words will never hurt me'?
@shinget
@shinget 4 жыл бұрын
except in harry potter
@MrNtlman
@MrNtlman 4 жыл бұрын
I am a strong wahman Also her: people said mean words to me and they hurt my feelings so they should be punished
@solusemsu7957
@solusemsu7957 4 жыл бұрын
12 minutes of strawman and post hoc fallacies balled up into one big mess of hypocrisy. But most of all, at 7:55, the idea that even silence should be held accountable is INSANE. This woman is a fascist and should be discredited immediately as a voice for authority on the matter. I respect her freedom to have this opinion, but it is a ridiculous one.
@TheJetLou
@TheJetLou 4 жыл бұрын
I would prefer if you could be very specific with the exact wording that was used against you that you consider as hate speech?
@asianhippy
@asianhippy 4 жыл бұрын
I am calling you out for hate speech. I disagree with what you have said so, by your logic, you are using hate speech. If you have children and they say something you disagree with, are you going to call them out for hate speech? I don't like what you are saying but I don't want to stop you from saying it. It is your right to say what you want even if it hurts my feeling but if your words are enciting violence, that's a different matter. Remember the ditty:- Sticks and stones May break my bones But words will never hurt me. My advice to you is; grow up and stop acting like a baby.
@michaeldowns5270
@michaeldowns5270 4 жыл бұрын
Authoratarian snoflakes have every right to complain about hate speach. And we have every right to mock or ignore that whiney complaint.
@halacron1
@halacron1 4 жыл бұрын
It's good we have people like this, they strengthen and remind us of what free speech really is. I salute her for being the one to take all the blows and play devil's advocate.
@ricksta5350
@ricksta5350 4 жыл бұрын
Not being hyperbolic when I say this was the worst TEDx talk that I've ever viewed. Her complete lack of self awareness, incessant contradiction & dogged pursuit of victimhood status as a springboard to empowerment is twisted, at best. She and her like- minded pals interpretation of virtue couldn't be further from what 99% of rational, discerning adults believe it to be; a caricature of herself and she doesn't see it..at all...embarrassing, cringey, frightening all in one. And to think this academic is indoctrinating our rising generation to flaunt its ill gotten victim privilege status is sickening.
@PaleRider559
@PaleRider559 4 жыл бұрын
I literally felt physically sick, while listening to this, thinking that ANYONE could actually believe this BS? "Hate Speech" is a loosely defined term, that can mean anything that the "victim" wants it to mean. In her sense of the term, I feel like a victim of "Hate Speech", as an American, and strong Believer of the 1st Amendment, just listening to this. Should she be silenced? NO!!! She has the RIGHT to say and believe anything she wants!!! Let "the Marketplace of Ideas" show her an "agreed upon Truth"... that her idea is Lame :P
@sneedmcsneed2762
@sneedmcsneed2762 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so strong words hurt you
@kimeli
@kimeli 2 жыл бұрын
are you implying that words are not for the weak?
@ichoosefreedom9321
@ichoosefreedom9321 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha nice!!! I love all the comments defending free speech but this one is the best I’ve seen so far.
@Clairedog12
@Clairedog12 2 жыл бұрын
Who defines what 'Hate' is? Exactly. Right now in the USA the Southern Poverty Law Center(SPLC) defines what 'Hate' is in the USA. I do not recall when we voted on establishing that particular non profit as a government agency which directs so much of the enforcement resources in the USA?
@Toshineko
@Toshineko 4 жыл бұрын
Katia: I'm a victim of Free Speech and want it banned entirely! U.S. Constitution: Am I a joke to you?
@bng1747
@bng1747 3 жыл бұрын
not yall defending hate speech in the comment section. she is literally saying not all opinions are created equal because some are just ill-informed or not based on facts at all... so yall are defending fantasy? invented opinions that cause harm?? pls do something like reading a book or two when u feel the itch to defend white supremacists next time, thank you
@somebodyonce5976
@somebodyonce5976 3 жыл бұрын
@Aswath Vishali I disagree.
@unusualaussie9606
@unusualaussie9606 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with her. Her father was free to be successful (speak freely) he just wasn't free from the consequences or responsibility of that (speech) position. If he didn't like the KKK (SJWs) harassing him shouldn't have been successful (speaking). He should have lowered himself to their standards (been silent and say what they believe). No different then what she asks of everyone she believes who are saying (so called) "hate speech".
@TheSeanoops
@TheSeanoops 4 жыл бұрын
Hate speech is an arbitrary term, what you deem to be “hate speech” will be different from another persons definition. Not only that, but the definition of that term would arbitrarily change from era to era and the ideas that would be considered objectionable will arbitrarily change. It’s insane, the idea behind the first amendment was to protect speech that the general public find objectionable and horrible.
@phillipbagga2410
@phillipbagga2410 4 жыл бұрын
by definition free speech is speech without Consequences
@itsboxingbear6551
@itsboxingbear6551 2 жыл бұрын
Hate speech is free speech and should always be. If we believe we can decide that just because something is offensive that it can't be said, then we don't speak at all
@danfahy2442
@danfahy2442 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't this a slippery slope? Who gets to decide what is and is not informed? Who gets to decide what is and is not hateful? Is it the government? Is it the most powerful people in country? If money is considered speech, will the wealthiest people in our country get to decide what is hateful? If we go down this road of limiting freedom of speech, will the freedom of political speech be next? What happens when the opposing party to your own political ideology comes into power and they deem your speech to be hateful? Am I allowed to ask these questions, or is it a hateful argument that is misinformed? At what point does any criticism or push back to the ideals of your movement become hateful speech that we need protection from?
@itsboxingbear6551
@itsboxingbear6551 2 жыл бұрын
I showed this video to one of my neighbors who lived through the siege of Sarajevo back in the 90s. He said basically the U.S is luckily that it can be hurt by words. "We had to sleep in destroyed homes waiting for shellings to hit our home, and Americans sit in safe spaces looking to avoid hateful speech. I would swap places with them any day"
@boydstallings6004
@boydstallings6004 4 жыл бұрын
The clash of "il informed opinions" is the best way to create, sharpen, and maintain strong arguments.
@dejp9619
@dejp9619 4 жыл бұрын
TEDx, where the heck do you guys find these people??
@gerardbommarito4668
@gerardbommarito4668 4 жыл бұрын
All speech is free speech. Words can't cause harm.
@DjVortex-w
@DjVortex-w 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a victim. My family is a victim. My community is a victim. My country is a victim. The world is a victim. The universe is a victim. If there are any life forms out there somewhere, they are victims too! Every single living thing in existence in this universe is a victim! All praise the cult of victimhood!
@asteroidalassassin6949
@asteroidalassassin6949 4 жыл бұрын
If we say what is or isn't okay to say that defeats the point of free speech.
@thenamelesschannel2334
@thenamelesschannel2334 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't find a single right-leaning argument on any controversial topic in your channel.
@somebodyonce5976
@somebodyonce5976 3 жыл бұрын
based
@An0nim0u5
@An0nim0u5 4 жыл бұрын
Her speech offended the spirit of my fundamental rights...
@eliothoward2128
@eliothoward2128 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Katia Campbell for your encouragement to practice engaged and principled citizenship. The vitriol in so many comments is a bummer. Civility, care and incisiveness are foundational to healthy society. It's the cheap imitations of these virtues that lead down a slippery slope.
@jamesmabry5776
@jamesmabry5776 3 жыл бұрын
FACT: Katia Campbell does not believe in free speech. Prove me wrong.
@jamesmabry5776
@jamesmabry5776 3 жыл бұрын
@@limesox.420.69 FACT: People should only face consequences if they say something factuality wrong not because false accusers of hate speech think it is wrong. Prove me wrong.
@bng1747
@bng1747 3 жыл бұрын
YES THANK YOU FINALLY A GOOD COMMENT
@scott3594
@scott3594 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm the product of a..." look at the first thing she said. This was thought out, it's the first thing out of her mouth. She is something bought, sold and paid for by her own definition. Do you think her mother ever said that she was a product of someone else? THATS EXACTLY WHAT HER MOTHER WAS FIGHTING AGAINST!
@ashtron7k
@ashtron7k 4 жыл бұрын
This is what victimhood mentality looks like. Please do not pander to people who do not understand how Freedom of Speech Works.
@novamikenovamike
@novamikenovamike 4 жыл бұрын
search Hate speech in the United States is not regulated, in contrast to that of most other liberal democracies.[1] The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that hate speech is legally protected free speech under the First Amendment. The most recent Supreme Court case on the issue was in 2017, when the justices unanimously reaffirmed that there is effectively no "hate speech" exception to the free speech rights protected by the First Amendment
@thbastos1
@thbastos1 Жыл бұрын
Hate speech is as harmful as (problably even more harmful than) slander/calumny. It is simply false saying that you only objectivly hurt someone or a group through fisical actions. Calumny, defamation, spreading fake news, spreading hate speech...some ideas have already been more than tested.
@richardwise7813
@richardwise7813 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing words you don't like isn't oppression; being censored because other people don't like your words is
@dopeyiceman
@dopeyiceman 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like she had a pretty privileged life. I never had a group of people constantly watching over me and my family to make sure that we were safe.
@unsungangel7269
@unsungangel7269 4 жыл бұрын
This is so bad, an elementary student could write a better non-contradictory speech than the one she gave. For all the things she says is normalized in society, she sure has a hard time presenting evidence of it.
@dear_totheheart
@dear_totheheart 4 жыл бұрын
Grateful to see this ratioed so thoroughly
@ryuzenn4438
@ryuzenn4438 4 жыл бұрын
Your Opinion is ill informed but thanks to freedom of speech you can voice your opinion.
@uria702
@uria702 2 жыл бұрын
“Don’t get me wrong. I’m not advocating for censorship.” Then advocates for censorship in the next sentence.
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 3 жыл бұрын
If freedom of speech has the right to offend, then be ready for its consequences. Nothing in this world is free, we are bound by our body and death. It is pure human ignorance to assume and truly believe that there are no consequences.
@Igneale
@Igneale 4 жыл бұрын
I got news for you, your ideas aren't "valid", you should be shut down by your logic.
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