A lot of people seem to think I'm somehow angry that they dropped an update and made this video "age like milk". The whole point of this video was to say how crucial updates were to their backers, so I welcome any and all updates that come after this video! All the points I bring up here still stand, but I can only hope things are moving in the right direction with perks, updates, and communication.

I don’t even follow the FNF community but I have a pretty good feeling that the fans are carrying this game HARD

Could be much worse, Yandere Dev could've been on their team.

Friday Night Fumblin'

There is no Tooth Fairy There is no Easter Bunny And there is no FNF update

Hello User! I have some bad news. Unfortunately, there is no update. I hope you are not too disappointed.

2 things they need to do: 1 - Make the update blogs MONTHLY if they can't be bothered to keep us in the loop weekly (especially with the useless venting that no one asked for). 2 - Be more honest about some of the production. Specifically instead of just continuously saying 'the T-shirts will be here soon' over and over again, just be honest and explain WHY the T-shirts have been delayed a lot.

Oh my god. I'm convinced the devs saw this video and said "Nuh uh" 😭

When an FNF Mod Team literally does 500x more work on the span of two weeks than the actual FNF Team in the span of 3 years:

I hate to admit that FNF is the first and only kickerstarter project i backed, but now i kinda regret it. Backed it for a t-shirt and barely getting any information of what's going on. Now I know the feeling of backing something up to either being disappointed or feeling scammed out of my money.

The game will probably release once it is fully dead

When the Kickstarter began, I was in my freshmen year of high school. I have since graduated, been employed, and payed my first year of taxes before this game has came out, let alone gotten a proper update.

They way the handled their kickstarter has actually taught me some valuable lessons about how to do a kickstarter if I ever do one someday. 1.) Do updates often, even if they don’t have any content just say,”Hey, nothing much to report. Just wanted to show we’re here” 2.) Updates are not a twitter, don’t use them just for shitposts or venting 3.) Hire a manager, or teach your team some management skills themselves

I feel like there's a point where they should have just subcontracted another company to do the bulk of the game development. There's hundreds of extremely skilled, passionate developers from companies that could help and they still haven't used any of them!! My god - delegate your tasks, FNF team!! There's no excuse for this level of mismanagement with how much money they have...

With as much money as they made they could have payed someone else to make the game and still pocket a nice profit. Stuff like this just gives kickstarter a bad name and makes it harder for legitimate developers to get funding.

For people saying “Game development takes time” you’re right but what’s so wrong with teasing parts of the game or giving us an inside look at stuff in the game. For example, Toby Fox has posted plenty of tiny looks and teasers for Deltarune, giving us a small little look at what’s to come, but not spoiling anything huge. FNF has done NONE of that, and as someone who has been supporting fnf for years, still now, it really sucks. Still better than Silksong at least Edit: Did some more research, i was wrong about it being better than silksong :’)

It would be a fun tradition where Sully makes a video on the updates the FNF team makes every year. It would be like a family gathering.

I swear the difference between this kickstarter vs ones like rollin rascals kickstarter is incredible. It’s been less then a month and the rollin rascal kickstarter already has 10 blog updates and 8 patches to a demo, and the dev team is incredibly vocal on updates and progress

Once again, they bit off more than they could chew. Cam also refuses to take things seriously, thinking he’s a big shot Newgrounds man.

“There is no update” 3 weeks later: There is an update

Funkin Crew 2 months ago: Wanna see us prove this loser wrong? Also Funkin Crew 2 days ago: Wanna see us do it again?

Honestly, the most damning thing about the entire full game situation is that in the time between Week 7 or so and now, fans managed to not only do a new engine that vastly improves the OG one (aka not janky as hell/doesn't implode doing double or triple arrow presses), but also do enough "weeks" worth of content to fill up the Full Ass Game-sized roster the devs said they'd do several time over by now, begin actual multiplayer work and do more fancy/unique mechanics for songs than the actual devs likely would ever do. And fans have even been expanding on a story here and there that goes well beyond the newgrounds-tier original story of "lol boy wants to clap girl's cheeks and rock star dad doesn't want that". And now I'm starting to wonder if that one "joke" tweet years back of Ninjamuffin spending the entirety of the kickstarter money on booze/ect. wasn't actually a joke and all of this has just been stalling/delaying the inevitable once everyone realizes they'd been had the whole time.

2:23 hi, I used to do webdev and this... surprises me. I know the devs behind this game are big open source fans (I know that because the game itself was open source for a long time, afaik still is, and the final build probably will be at some point), but it does surprise me that they decided to reinvent the wheel and make their own blogging platform rather than just... fork one of the many existing ones. or easier, rely on the intrastructure they already have (such as Kickstarter itself). It balloons the scope of the whole project and its budget, and it makes me feel that these guys do not have their priorities straight.

Note to self: If you want a game to update, get Sully to make a video on it not getting updates. It has worked a total of 1/1 times. 100% success rate.

how weird that, shortly after you posted your video, we *again* got some more stuff that's meaningful

If this game EVER comes out and it turns out to be mid as hell, I really hope we get a What Happened video on it.

Off topic, but I'm obsessed with that shirt. Edit: After some searching, I found it and bought it.

THEY DIDN'T SPEND IT ON CRAAAAAACK!

"So you see we were working on REDACTED. Teehee by the way i went to the store teehee i got a bagel teehee gonna put bagel into REDACTED teehee." Yep. These people had their money well spent didn't they?

It's really bad that there's people still waiting on their physical rewards. But I'd mostly blame that on the manufacturers if their working with another company that's making them. I've always had this gut feeling that the reason why they haven't showed any game play updates or screenshots of the game is because of modders/tracers making mods of it. But even with that, it would be nice to have consistent updates of the games progress. Even if it's just small bits, it's better than being put on silent mode.

I haven’t played the official game in a while, I've mostly played mods like Hazy River, Cliff Clash, and of course Indie Cross. I think the biggest issue with the FNF crew is that they have never faced a project of this magnitude and fully have no clue how to be responsible adults and managers in this situation. I understand not being able to keep up with weekly updates by yourself, but the least you can do is delegate some of those updates to your other employees to get them out more frequently. As Sully said, one of the most informational updates we got was not from Cam, but from Eric, Cam's "weird coder". I don’t think Cam was anywhere near prepared for a project like this, and I feel as if they need someone better to manage their game. Not that Cam should he ousted completely, but that he should never have been managing all of this in the first place. Please, get someone who actually *knows* what they're doing, and learn from them. At least don’t leave your fans in the dark for this long, guys. We are the ones who gave you your money and popularity. The least you can do is tell us how things are going, and give us realistic expectations, not tell us posters should be shipping in a month when they haven’t even passed development yet. Please, for the sake of everyone here, get it together and be responsible adults and game devs. You promised updates, so we expect *real* updates.

I have a bit of sympathy for them- not in how they handled it, it's genuinely awful. But for how they are unable to show anything, look back to week 7, ugh got modded in before it got put into the game, the whole leaked Darnell week was modded in, each and every erect remix is modded in. They can't show off any art,music, gameplay, etc or else people will trace, extend, etc. But just going silent isn't the way to go about it, having teasers that don't show ingame assets but just giving ideas on what they're working on, or even telling us what they're working on would be great!

I believe it wasn't intentional for them to leave everyone on read, but the scope of the project development must've proven to be more than they could handle for a small dev team. They're ambitious to a fault. But I do hope this game still crawls its way out of the development hell it's gotten itself into. Especially because while I haven't been too inversed into FNF like I was a few years ago, the community could use some much needed fresh content as I think they're slowly going insane. All they've been doing is Sonic and Mario exe parodies, like SO MANY OF THEM, and not a single other/original character has been seen like it was during the start of FNF popularity.

I havent followed fnf in such a long time. Hoping that the developers are gonna get things under control and hope everything gets fixed up. Mainly because well i love the game still and i think its great.

love your non-otamatone content so much man, certain channels are like eating junk food (in a good way) and just absolutely hit the spot, and yours is one of them

Its funny how you don’t know that if they show a single sprite, the community will start milking it like crazy and its sad

Im pretty sure the reason we dont get any showcase is that it gets traced and gets modded, devs doesnt like that and they dont give anything at all anymore, and now people are complaining

At this point FNF is a game made by the fans and not the actual devs behind FNF because any relevance this game still has today is 110% because of its community and what's even better is that we don't need to sink thousands or even millions of real life money for any FNF mod that gets released. WE GET TO EAT ALL THAT FOR FREE!!

I see and agree with your points in the video. ( coming from a FNF fan since Feb 2021 😭 ) But fortunately, not even 2 weeks ago, Kawaii Sprite ( One of FNFs composers ) released the new Chart Editor (song), and also, an official Twitter account about FNF news came out recently aswell. I really do hope the update comes out this year. ( or next year ) or else its joeover

YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE WHAT WAS RECENLY ANNOUNCED

The FNF team saw this and immediately locked in

I feel like, with every month/semester/year, The Walten Files' tweet about development hell becomes more and more valid. Like, I'm not asking the game to be finished quick. But no updates to the base game, the fact it's still Newgrounds exclusive, etc. People will vindicate posts that were satirized and mocked.

Friday Night Funkin' has helped people introduce so many innovative stories that not only have entertained people, but introduced other projects that may've flown under the radar. MX being a good example, I think.

Keep making these videos. Everytime you do, they get some stuff done

Well, this one didnt age all too well

Everyone is saying this aged like milk when I reckon in a month we'll be complaining about the radio silence again

Erm you might wanna sit down for this one

This aged like spoiled milk

the video that made the funkin crew lock in

It might seem crazy what im boutta say...

i have a feelin that they are definitely working on the game, they arent posting anything about the game is because everytime something for the game is posted, its milked to DEATH. when that happens, it gets redone. and a lot has been leaked and traced, meaning they have to be redone we DID recently get the new chart editor though, which is really cool. hopefully they dont need to change that

The last time they showed a sneak peek of their game, fans took the sneak peek and turned it into a fanmade week within days. THAT is why they stopped showing sneak peeks, the community itself ruined any chances of it. My boyfriend and I both financially supported the kickstarter and we are happily waiting. When we saw just how desperate the community was for more content that they were willing to turn whatever we had of the game into a new fanmade week, I knew they were going to cut back HARD on showing off the game itself. The community should not be surprised that they get so little now in terms of updates, and that whenever there is an update it's just an art still here and there, or non-game updates such as chart editors or excel sheets showing off people who have been paid so far for their work.

No way it happened again where you post a video about how there’s no updates then a week later they drop a huge update. I think the Funkin team are fans LMAO

I find it hilarious that the lead programmer provided the most detailed update as opposed to the lead artist.

this is honestly so sad, I was thinking about donating to the kickstarter when it was going on but now I’m so happy I never did

8:11 to be fair omori's (edit: yeah alright this comment is outdated that's on me)

HAHAHA LITERALLY CAME STRAIGHT OVER WHEN I HEARD THE UPDATE!!

I am FNF fan and I can guarantee you that I don’t even hope for the main game to release anymore. I’m just enjoying the mods

Fnf: -Unfinished promises after years -Talk about stuff not even related to the game -Almost zero content known after 3 years, other than a new chart system. -""weekly"" posts (spoiler: they are not weekly) -A whole team -Backers regret helping Baldi: -Fufilled promises -Backers get updates early -2 Games, fundraiser made in 2018 by the way -one guy -Blog posts actually related to game progress even introducing new characters. -Backers are enjoying perks

I just realised this whole game's production is like a buncha kids tryna do an assaignment and only getting the PowerPoint design completed

A reminder. Just because a new update is out does not mean this video is poorly aged. The fact stands: lack of communication and proper updates. If anything, the fact we got two update videos before an actual FNF update (and keep in mind, those two vids recap the updates thst mean nothing) proves the game is suspiciously managed. Again, more transparent updates would be nice.

I think it'd help massively if they just apolagise and admit that they've overextended themselves. That still wouldn't make what they did good, but that would at least ease people's minds a little bit.

Just a heads-up, my Kickstarter comment at 8:19 was in reference to NinjaMuffin99's questionable social media conduct at the time, not the lack of Kickstarter updates lmao. For the record, I do also have a problem with their poor communication to backers but that's not something I'd request my name to be omitted from the credits over. Great video though!

This aged well...

this vid didn't just aged so fast, it also decayed on the spot

the game was really good in 2021-2022 but after these years, the game went downhill and i don't think it's gonna ever come back. i forgot about the full game anyway

not a FNF fan, but it's really irresponsible seeing the devs basically doing nothing while holding 2 million dollars, I know that game development is hard, but this is embarrassing, leaving your fans, the people who funded your project, in the dust should be taken seriously.

THERE IS NO SANTA, THERE IS NO EASTER BUNNY, THERE IS NO QUEEN OF ENGLAND, THERE IS NO UPDATE

I just got my physical media vinyl like a few days ago and the algorithm blessed me with your update video today.

INCREDIBLY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER

decided to check their blog after watching this video and *guess* what, they JUST posted something today lmao. keep up the good work!

this reminds me of omori's development cycle and lack of communication during development. i'm sure it's comin but holy fuck

bruh you called it. keep making videos on fnf so they stay locked in 😭🙏

funkin crew saw this and locked in

it might seems crazy what im about to say..

Yall are getting this game

I remember watching your video from a year ago when I was more of an FNF fan and agreeing with it a lot. I then remember seeing some from the community people saying it was a bad video and wasn’t reasonable. A year later, and your points are more true than ever. I’m used to and OK with video game updates taking a long time as long as they turn out good, but when people put $2 Mil towards your update, you should be very clear on your progress. And that’s not even mentioning the perks

but then again, it’s a weird situation that there was even so much fan content to begin with considering the game wasn’t even out yet, so we can’t expect the creators to bring us constant updates like a Fortnite season

not a fnf nerd at all but moreso an objective outsider and seeing people go “wahhh the mods do more for the game than the actual devs” or whatever is so… disheartening? and i cant imagine how that feels for the actual devs of the game itself.

This aged pretty pretty well aint it?

I still have yet to receive to damn vinyl. Tried contacting Needlemouse and they asked for a non-existent order number; That's fun.

well, it seems the crack ran out. CUZ THEY DID SOME WORKKKKKKK WOOOOO

well you were right lmao we got more news

2 weeks later they just announced more of the erect difficulty songs and visualizers for them

I kind of knew when I gave them money that they were going to take a very long time to make this game. I don't think they quite realized how much random business stuff you have to do to make a game like this. Through it all, though, I still think that the game will come out in 1 or two years. Maybe 3. Making games takes a long time. My biggest complaint is just the lack of updates. Makes me feel like they just took the money and left. I don't think they did, but that's how it feels when they aren't doing what they said that they would.

people are saying "this video aged bad" but this video was already moldy by the time this video came out. people were already getting their posters and shirts by the time this video came out.

Aged like milk

It might seem crazy what I'm bout to say...

They could just be pulling a team cherry and developing the game with no news

Expect, *there is.*

my point is, if Geometry Dash 2.2 had taken 7 years to make, then i'll allow FNF to take 7 years aswell.

Still aged like milk.

They recently just created an official account on Twitter

Sully keep making these, we conveniently get an update a few days after these videos.

4:09 that’s literally how i talk in discord, but hearing it in a full four paragraphs hurts.

well, 3 years later NEW UPDATE

As bleak as the whole situation seems I'm still holding out hope that the game ends up well worth the money given and trusting that the devs know what they're doing. There's an account that showed up on twitter recently that seems to be made for official fnf updates that's followed by some of the devs so hopefully the lack of updates is coming to an end soon.

i bet you feel real silly right now

im happy to say this aged horribly Edit: WE GOT AN UPDATE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Might be crazy what im boutta say...