The Future of Hogwarts Legacy Is Not Looking Good...

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Is Hogwarts Legacy about to suffer the same fate as Suicide Squad?
WB Discovery CEO David Zaslav recently told investors "Our focus is on transforming our biggest franchises from largely console and PC based with three-four year release schedules to include more always on gameplay through live services, multiplatform and free-to-play extensions with the goal to have more players spending more time on more platforms."
I recently sat down with one of the other biggest Harry Potter fans I know in @XpectoGO to get his thoughts on the future of Hogwarts Legacy and Wizarding World video games as a whole.
The Future of Hogwarts Legacy Is Not Looking Good...
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0:00 - Live Service Plans
1:34 - Special Guest
2:09 - Hogwarts Legacy Concerns
5:40 - Wizarding World Struggles
6:36 - Hope for Avalanche Software
9:08 - Industry Obsession with Live Service
10:00 - Future of Hogwarts Legacy
16:28 - Future of Wizarding World Games
21:10 - Multiplayer in Hogwarts Legacy?
25:12 - Quidditch Champions
25:43 - Worst Case Scenario
28:04 - Alienating Harry Potter Fans
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38:07 - Harry Potter Remakes?
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@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much to XpectGO for joining me and having what I think is a very important conversation. Be sure to check out his channel for the "latest and greatest" in Wizarding World content! --> youtube.com/@XpectoGO

@RaySawyers-eh6fl Ай бұрын

HI Guys

@RaySawyers-eh6fl Ай бұрын

I Argee with you Guys

@XpectoGO 6 ай бұрын

This was such a great conversation! Thanks for having me Retro, the mike drop at the end tho OMG!! WB listen to the man

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Appreciate you joining me! Need to make it a regular thing, haha.

@thechristiangamer9140 6 ай бұрын

One thing that frustrates me about wizarding world games is that for years and years since deathly hallows part 2 people have been asking for a game like Hogwarts legacy and they tried making all these other mobile games and then just kept failing. And then they were super surprised when Hogwarts legacy was successful. It still feels like they'd don't fully understand their fan base.

@tb1235 6 ай бұрын

I can guarantee you the devs know the fanbase, being fans themselves. It's purely executive greed and it's coming straight from the top... We see far too many CEOs do this greedy garbage before companies fumble and then the people that get punished are never the executives that forced it..

@thechristiangamer9140 6 ай бұрын

@@tb1235 I totally agree. It was definitely the corporate side that I was talking about. You can definitely tell the devs love HP. But it's just sad that it took the corporate this long to even decide to make a game like Hogwarts Legacy.

@TheBeastCH 6 ай бұрын

If it was just the CEO, that would be an easy thing to solve. Talk to the guy, have a few good arguments, explain what's what from a good angle. But more often than not, it's the middle management, HR, analytics, and supervisors, that make all those bad calls. And that can be easily hundreds of people. Especially with companies like Warner Brothers or Disney, where it's probably thousands. The CEO is probably like "Yeah, we got this Harry Potter thing going, and my employees are telling me it's going to make a shitton of money for very little investment." and doesn't know more about Harry Potter than "It's like some popular movie about a kid with glasses that fights dragons or something."

@theoutsiderjess4869 6 ай бұрын

Wb did worse with games outside of Harry potter people used to think they woiluld have micro transaction in this game

@drejohnson850 6 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie.. the HP mobile game Magic Awakened imo is way better than legacy.

@NiceB4dge 6 ай бұрын

The Wizarding World is literally the best setting possible for a social MMORPG ever. Every single detail in this universe translates perfectly into this genre. Just a few random examples : - "PvP factions" --> 4 Houses + House Points - PvP gameplay --> Wand duels & Quidditch - Expansions --> Vanilla game is Year 1, and they can do at least 6 expansions which add storylines and environments - Housing --> Magic bags etc - Player Guilds + Guild Hall --> "clubs" which use the Room of Requirement (just like Dumbledore's Army) - Seasonal events --> Just like in the lore (Christmas, Halloween, etc) + End-of-year Quidditch Cup + Houses Cup - Raids & Dangerous high-level zones / World Bosses --> Forbidden Forest, Azkaban, etc - Skills to level up --> Classes - Professions/Specialization --> Just like in the lore - Transmog for outfits --> Magic - Pets/Mounts --> Fantastic Beasts - Teleportation --> Portkeys - Cooking --> Potions And I could go on for hours... I have talked with friends about this idea for so long, I even have a doc with a list of possible features lol Apart from this MMORPG that could last 15+ years and make billions every year, I absolutely want them to keep releasing single-player games along side, just like Hogwarts Legacy.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

For sure, there's so much opportunity!

@Shadowen925 6 ай бұрын

Just let Avalanche do their thing!!!!! For their first triple A game, they did some AMAZING work and their PR team is top notch. With the delays, they still managed to keep the fans satisfied. Their story team was awesome with building on the potter lore, while still keeping it true to the world we know and love. Maybe they can hire another studio to do more games within the franchise that could be online. We can both agree that Harry Potter Magic Awakened is a great game (even though I don't have the time to play it anymore) I think there are plenty of opportunities to expand upon the franchise with OTHER games. Maybe an MMO similar to the Magic Awakened series but with more of a classic multiplayer experience like leveling, combat, items, dungeons, raids, ect. Could even base it on the upcoming HBO series. Personally, I'd love to see a game set in the modern era. With all that said, any new release should NOT be dropped into Avalanche's hands because I think they need to work on their own projects. Hire some new studios. :D

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Great comment, Shadowen! Thanks for sharing.

@MrE-wr8ws 6 ай бұрын

Make the school and student life more significant to the game and story similar to the persona series.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Definitely A LOT of ideas they could pull from Persona.

@KukoSama 5 ай бұрын

- You should be able to make a gang of three. Every house of hogwarts should have like 5 npcs you could choose making that a total of 20 different options as companions. Or invite 2 friends to play the whole game with. Or the room of requirement having a cap of 10 people you could invite. - the choices you make having consequences resulting in unique playthroughs. - Add skilltrees to spells so you actually have to master them instead of buying a powerup from the skill tab. - Add more of everything that’s already in it, think of things like: enemies,beasts,plants,potions,brooms,wand handles,gear. - Expand and enlarge the castle and forbidden forest instead of bigger map. - Ability to sit in the game. (And maybe play chess?)

@yomama5368 6 ай бұрын

Make the map smaller and more dense. Give more attention to the castle and the student experience rather than open world slush quests. More interaction with the teachers and classmates, add clubs and a house points system, add quidditch, maybe play around with a calendar system like in Persona. That's the kind of thing people actually care about-being a magical student in this world-and the thing that makes this IP unique from all the other ones in the genre.

@mrow7598 4 ай бұрын

They're not going to add a playable quidditch as they're already releasing a quidditch game. They might add matches as cut scenes but I think that's about it.

@joemachado33 6 ай бұрын

So many great things in the industry have been ruined by corporate greed. I really hope HL doesn’t fall down that path.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Hopefully not! It would be a shame to see.

@proudream 6 ай бұрын

They need the same recipe for HL2, just add more in-game contents like morality system, companions, NPC schedules and interactions.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Good thoughts and I definitely agree.

@Bill_Bo 6 ай бұрын

Yes! Increase the depth of the game. Live Service makes a game more shallow.

@RavenclawFtW3295 6 ай бұрын

I'll put my two cents worth in. I'm a single player guy and these are the things I'd like to see in the sequel to Hogwarts Legacy. 1. Make there a practical difference between being a member of one of the four houses. 2. Add quidditch 3. Bring back Poppy, Amit, and Natty as companions the MC has entrusted with the secret of Ancient Magic like Rackham had Rookwood, Bakar, and Niamh. 4. Include a consequence system so your dialogue choices matter

@clupis 6 ай бұрын

I'm fine with them adding multiplayer, for those that want it, as long as they don't mess with the single player game play.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@vysian 6 ай бұрын

I hope they don't force Avalanche to go live service with Hogwarts Legacy or it's sequels. What I would hope for, is that they allow Avalanche to do what Insomniac have done with Spider-Man. They started with a great game and have refined it, getting better with Miles Morales and then better again with Spider-Man 2. Hogwarts Legacy is a great game, as you say, not perfect by any stretch but given the time, resources and freedom to enhance what worked, refine what didn't. They could go on to do for Wizarding World and Hogwarts, what Insomniac did for Spider-Man and comic book games.

@Girl4Music 6 ай бұрын

Perfectly said. Yeah. Everything Insomaniac did with the Marvel Spider-Man games. Especially the latest one. God the story alone… Yeah. That’s the right avenue for Hogwarts Legacy. No Hogwarts Legacy Online please!

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Great points! Another good example I think is the first Uncharted game. It was solid...but 2 absolutely blew it out of the water.

@nathanmitchell2827 6 ай бұрын

I play video games because I want to be antisocial, please don’t force me to be social with multiplayer.

@alexanderofulster6063 6 ай бұрын

Literally. Games, for me, are to escape reality, where people dwell. Not to just join them in another realm lol

@iwuvpiesgaming9164 6 ай бұрын

You can always play single player though. I don’t think they would make it so you have to play with others

@nathanmitchell2827 5 ай бұрын

@@iwuvpiesgaming9164 yeah…… I was joking ……. But you are right.

@-mayo- 6 ай бұрын

3-4 player co-op with multiplayer and NPC dialogue handled how BG3 does it would be interesting. Have a trio of your real friends in Hogwarts with you. Make things more student-oriented also. Sneaking around at night. Making potions, but you have to learn and know the recipes with chance of failure involved. Etc. Changes like this are welcome in my book.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Interesting ideas!

@mrow7598 4 ай бұрын

Co-op is the only multiple player I wouldn't mind seeing as long as its not forced. I don't want to play co-op but I definitely don't want an MMO.

@ByTexify 6 ай бұрын

Good example of what happens when old rich people who have no clue are running big companies like this

@hollowknight6438 6 ай бұрын

Im not opposed to them adding a multiplayer but pls dont forget about the single players, ever since they announced this game i was extremely worried it was going to be an mmo and thankfully it was not but pls dont let single player's miss out on the amazing sequel that hogwarts legacy 2 is going to be pls that is all i ask 😭😭🙏🙏

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting and sharing your thoughts!

@Elwen.GetYourGeekOn 6 ай бұрын

I WANT a multiplayer game - But it does NOT need to be part of Hogwarts Legacy. I'd be fine with an entirely different Wizarding World game for it.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Yep, I think that's where I'm at too!

@finnredmond3192 6 ай бұрын

Mirco transactions will be the death of gaming and I just hope they don't go that route

@steffen89able 6 ай бұрын

Making a multiplayer live service is the dumbest thing they can do. There’s a very small contingent of people who want that. Most don’t.

@BakesBread001 6 ай бұрын

This game got the Hogwarts world perfect. It captured the feeling of Harry Potter with atmosphere (music, feeling, humour, detail). It has unique characters. Hogwarts Legacy was not a perfect game but the base was there for the future. I was so hyped for the future. If they made $1B the easy money right now would be a DLC.

@mrgauth 6 ай бұрын

Avalanch, you do this and you will never see my money. Period. Make a proper SP sequel and you got me.

@crimsondragon1794 6 ай бұрын

yeah no, if this goes the always online route I'm out.

@miguerianpt 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for so brilliantly voicing these concerns. No matter what, this game has been a dream come true, and whilst I do think an online game set in the wizzarding world would appeal to many people, it does have me worried about the future of HL 😢 There’s so, so much more they can do with this IP! I seriously think that for HL the future should be dlc/expansions and a sequel without turning this gem into an mmo

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Hey thanks so much for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed our conversation.

@LoquaciousPint 6 ай бұрын

There is so much material to work with. The schools, professions, magical beasts, quidditch, the founders SO MUCH for each topic to have its own game

@Savage_Khaleesi 6 ай бұрын

Omg I would love a remake of the og 7 years! Great video and so many great points! I like the single player aspect of the game, it would just be great if there were some things added like classes you had to attend and more in depth OWLS

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Right?! Avalanche would knock it out of the park remaking those stories!

@Jok3rH-HAHAHAySoSerious102 5 ай бұрын

Hogwarts Legacy deserves a sequel with as much love and inspiration put into it as the first one. building the extra onto it that the first one doesnt have. maybe adding certain spells, expecto patronum and things like that.

@leechamberland6773 6 ай бұрын

if they make Hogwarts Legacy into a MMO they are going to destroy it

@crow_g1639 6 ай бұрын

Lies the game is already dead for months you can't kill what is already dead

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

@@crow_g1639 it just needs dlc and a squeal. making this a mmo well make it stay dead

@blackwidow8805 6 ай бұрын

The way WB see this game generating a substantial amount of revenue, coupled with Harry Potter being a significant IP boasting a vast fanbase, leads me to believe they are already considering turning Hogwarts Legacy's sequel into a live service element, motivated by greed.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Definitely a possibility that's happening. But my hope is they trust Avalanche to make the best decision for the Hogwarts Legacy franchise going forward.

@Alexbloke 6 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t mind an mmo spin off or something but only if it doesn’t replace the sequel

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

That's what I'm thinking too!

@Heavilybrokn 6 ай бұрын

What I don't understand is how are you going to create this breathtaking open world, not just of the school but the areas around the school that are not even in the books, so much detail, giving HP fans everything and more and just leave it with one story and be done with it. When I played this game for the first time I was like... ok... this has a decade of DLC potential. It would be just so hard for me to watch it just be.... done...

@DBLCreations 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, i completely agree. It's not only a good game, but it's really beautiful and detailed. I've seen people asking for more and saying: Oh, they left this out, and they left that out. But considering the game was already released with bugs. I really think they just didn't have the time! So there almost has to be more...

@stonewbie5981 6 ай бұрын

Wow! You have a dangerous channel! I mean, I get so into your videos when you cover HL topics. I have so much to say and you seem to think along the same lines as I do. I'm liking your channel more and more. Anyway, concerning this video, here's a fraction of my thoughts: seems the trend these days with software is subscription. I don't like subscriptions, too many gets expensive pretty quickly. But the software companies look at it as reliable income. Now, concerning an MMO, it is possible to do it right concerning HL -- some sort of hybrid MMO. I used to play MUD games back in the day. Even back then it was realized there's different types of players -- PK, solo, socializers -- and different styles.. explorers and hack-n-slash (I'm sure there's more now). First point: strong DLC support now. I am willing to pay for more spell crafts and content for ROR. For MMO, there really needs to be a solo mode, or private areas for the solo player. I do play an MMO -- Star Trek Online -- but honestly I am a solo player there. With HL I don't want to be forced to have other human players as my character's companion. Would much rather have NPC companions that go everywhere I go.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Glad you're enjoying the channel! Appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

@loganponthier3119 6 ай бұрын

I really want deeper RPG mechanics, a companion system, more intriguing side content and a better end-game, and a reworking of the spells system (for example: not having to bind utility spells into your diamonds). I think these are all good directions to take a sequel in, multiplayer is fine so long as it’s not forced.

@MandMsss 6 ай бұрын

I would like different paths based off of character's good or bad actions like Mass Effect!

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Good thoughts here! Thanks for commenting.

@deniselauderbaugh8060 6 ай бұрын

It would be a shame if HL goes to live service, I wont play if it turns into multiplayer.

@SoulOfJustice1994 6 ай бұрын

If the Hogwarts Legacy sequel is MMO, I am out. I don't do MMO.

@absolutedegenerate2992 6 ай бұрын

SAME

@Jeremy-bt8lo 6 ай бұрын

I would try it out even though I’ve never played an MMO, sounds fun

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

@@Jeremy-bt8lo trying it out well make them think they did the right thing, but it well ruined the game

@mrBytemare 6 ай бұрын

Great game! I love it so much! How ever, being a stundent at Hogwarts not being able to even sit down in your own chair or in a classroom....? So many asked for this little thing and even back in skyrim 10 years ago you could sit.... "yeah I'm lost for words"

@thetrav8730 6 ай бұрын

Agreed. The world needs to be more interactive, and classes have to be multi level mini games so they last the year like Bully did.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

The "can't sit down" critique always cracks me up, but I'm definitely in the minority. I hear from so many who want that just like you mentioned.

@EVERYDAYGames00 6 ай бұрын

You can sit and smoke in rdr2😂

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

@@EVERYDAYGames00 they want the classes not just the ability to sit

@MrMattSax 6 ай бұрын

Why can’t a game just be a good single player game? Why do we need a half-baked multiplayer option??

@HuffleDeezy 6 ай бұрын

So yo game don't lose fans

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

@@HuffleDeezy they are losing fans

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

@@HuffleDeezy in fact if they go through with is Harry Potter games well no longer be around

@HuffleDeezy Ай бұрын

@@michaelbeaver8055 if they go through with what? Explain

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

@@HuffleDeezy if they make it mmo

@jonasfermefors 6 ай бұрын

From my perspective I think what made HL so incredibly successful is that it appealed to Potter fans and casual gamers. The hard core gamers liked it well enough but moved on quickly. I don't think it's possible to create a game that appeals fully to hard core gamers and still works well for the Potter fans and casual gamers. I think the recipe for a longer life to HL2 is changing content. That can be done in many ways.. here are a couple of ideas sorted din the order they appeal to me: - Weekly challenges - in Forza Horizon style they could have weekly challenges like finding things or mini quests with exclusive content rewards. - Larger random dungeons - Regular content packs

@theoutsiderjess4869 6 ай бұрын

What bothers me is the fact that you can't go to school itself in hogwarts legacy outside of missions

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Like classes and such? Yeah, that was kind of a bummer for sure.

@HuffleDeezy 6 ай бұрын

Im glad yall made this video. I agree with most of what was said.

@Gabe-es7io 6 ай бұрын

I think multi-player could work wonderfully if it's done like GTA online or Red Dead online. A separate mode that doesn't take away from the single player experience.

@Girl4Music 6 ай бұрын

No. Even just that would take the focus away from the story and characterization. The main campaign. Involve multi-player… sure. Some Harry Potter games worked with 2-player gameplay. But not more than that. Don’t make it accessible for online play.

@Gabe-es7io 6 ай бұрын

@@Girl4Music Nah, I don't see how it would take away from the single player focus at all if executed correctly. Rockstar did it with both games perfectly. Both games have awsome single player story and the online mode it's a complete open world with its own mission and stories that has nothing to do with the main story and both single player mode were fenomenal. With the amount of revenue they're getting from HL the can expand and have a team work on the online while the exting team work on the single player. Plus the foundation of the world and game mechanics is already there they'll just probably impove upon that.

@Girl4Music 6 ай бұрын

@@Gabe-es7io I hated GTA Online. Never played Red Dead Online.

@Gabe-es7io 6 ай бұрын

@@Girl4Music I can understand and respect your opinion and I get it. That's why that concept could work because if you don't like online you can just stick to the story mode.

@a.ramosakadrumgrl6677 6 ай бұрын

If they made it a live pay to play game, I wouldn’t play. I enjoy the single RPG experience because I can play as much as I want without limitations. People want to duel others live, but they can get that with MA. I would love to go to Diagon Alley for school supplies and for them to extend the magical world. I would also like to learn our backstory prior to going to Hogwarts, it would be great for each house to have their individual backstory. Adding onto the Sebastian storyline, by our decision if we turned him in or not. They should have our MC decide who to tell or not tell about the ancient magic store. I would love to bring Poppy to the ROR to see Highwing and to buy a broom for Everett! I was one of many that bought a console to play HL.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

I think you definitely aren't alone in saying you wouldn't pay if it was a live service game.

@Cloud_Alchemy 6 ай бұрын

If they are going live service, I think doing it with Dueling or Quidditch would be a good exception

@Jerh1985 6 ай бұрын

Good game but after one play through I had zero interest in another. Note I'm not a fan or Harry Potter but I do like the concept of magic/fantasy along with the whole wizard/mage perspective which I want more games in that vein. The castle was neat and the magic was OKish. In short I would recommend buying but if they add BS to the next game it would be zero bother for me to just not purchase it. That being said please push back as I would prefer more good games as I never purchase games with micro transactions. It appears to many people are ok with this pay model so it is reducing the number of games I have interest in at any given time.

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

remember this is their first good good and they now have a base game to build off of. I believe the next game can be more dense, giving more to do as well as adding new spells

@Jok3rH-HAHAHAySoSerious102 5 ай бұрын

i just noticed xpectogo has a bowtruckle figurine on his mic from fantastic beasts lol

@RetroRaconteur 5 ай бұрын

Isn’t it just the best?! 😆

@TheDrunkSith 6 ай бұрын

The only multiplayer I’d want to have in HL would be a PvP wizard duel mini game keep the rest of the game focused on single player

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

That could be interesting!

@savagegamer4576 6 ай бұрын

I love single player games I always just enjoy playing alone but if done right having online visiting your friends houses exploring the world together could be insane if it's done correctly so I definitely trust them and I think they would definitely deliver on it but we shall see in the future

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Hey, thanks for checking out the video!

@FromTheAtticTV 6 ай бұрын

Wow, I honestly didn't even realize I had three f-words in my tweet😂I guess I was really pissed.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

LOL 😂

@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi 6 ай бұрын

1 saving grace is JK is pretty good with her lawyers and contracts so a new game/sequel would have to go through an extra hoop before whatever WB says. I could see her approving both....a true single player sequel & a multiplayer game. Besides great lawyers and contracts she does like money so 2 games better than 1

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

It doesn't seem like she really touches the video games much since the creation of Portkey. That's kind of their main purpose.

@sinnattugaq 6 ай бұрын

Chambers on PC is my favorite Harry Potter game. I would love some kind of remake of the early games. If they improve the puzzles and maybe stealth, I could easily imagine a remake of Philosophers or Chambers. And if they combine a morality system with the house points, I could imagine something really interesting, like imagining Harry doing quests for people after the whole school thinks he's the heir to Slytherin, etc. I love these types of videos, it feels nostalgic listening to you guys talk about Hogwarts Legacy, I love these types of hang out videos.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words! So glad to hear you enjoyed the video.

@autumnsartstudio 6 ай бұрын

I would like it if we got continuation of the storyline. I mean we started in year 5...give us year 6 and 7 and let us discover what else this magic can do. And maybe bring in that companion system since it's gonna be a new year and our character is friends with most of the npcs by that point. Hogwarts Mystery has given us that taste but I hate playing on my phone, i want to play that on a bigger screen. Baldur's Gate 3 has given us a taste of what that could be like. I mean they know that there's fanfictions (ie with Ominus and Sebastian of course) and romance companion mods. We are basically in high school, let romance be in the air!

@autumnsartstudio 6 ай бұрын

and also it'd be easy to just reuse the map for game 2 and 3 and just add on as you go. They would have to remake the game map basically for the live service.

@Girl4Music 6 ай бұрын

I’m going to be optimistic and hope that the backlash over this will make the CEO of WB Discovery change his mind. Because I DO NOT want a live service Hogwarts Legacy. I hated HATED GTA Online. I don’t want to deal with that again. And especially not with one of my favourite art/entertainment franchises of all time. I trust Avalanche like you guys. I hope Avalanche will fight back if they’re forced to do this. I hope they will defend their capability to keep the IP going THEIR way. WB would be stupid to mess with the success they’ve had and money they’ve made. It works the way it is. I wouldn’t mind multiplayer but not online multiplayer. No thank you. Talk to Avalanche. Off the record. James - use your contacts. Tell them that the fans do not want this.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! WB/Avalanche definitely watch and listen.

@FinnessaFaye 6 ай бұрын

I wish that they had have added Quiddich To Hogwarts Legacy the same way they put Blitz Ball in Final Fantasy 10

@cora2658 6 ай бұрын

😱😭 I have the michael scott office meme screaming in my head. No! Please no! Just no. I am a casual gamer. I enjoy single player RPG, for a reason! People online 9 times out of 10 are horrible. Even if they aren’t horrible in person, they turn into some monstrosity while online. I’ve tried to play Magic Awakened, a Harry Potter mobile, pay to win, online HP game. And I *hate* it. It’s all about the micro transactions. It’s pay to win. There are so many ridiculous in-app currencies. It’s no fun playing against whales who dump tons of cash into the game so they can thwomp other players for the sake of their own fragile ego, and parade around is some ridiculous costume to show off their in game affluence. One of the reasons Hogwarts Legacy did so well was BECAUSE it was so new gamer friendly. I’m a member of a handful Hogwarts Legacy groups. There are a TON of beginner gamers on there, who only bought the game because they love HP. They love the game. But I can guarantee you that most of them would not transition well to subscription based or micro transaction based HP game. I will gladly pay $70 for a good game and play the crap out of it. But I refuse to be milked for money for pointless upgrades and add ons. If they go this way, they’ve lost me. Why does everything I care about get ruined by idiots?! I just hope they leave Hogwarts Legacy alone and let them make a better single player RPG sequel that continues the story, builds the lore, and satisfies fans.

@ceuser3555 6 ай бұрын

Best way to kill fan interest and loyalty in the game 👏🏻

@EmpShaddam 6 ай бұрын

no rock steady did not want to do a live service game. They wanted to do a superman game and were denied by the head of WB and were told to make the sushi squad and I don’t know if it’s confirmed or not but you can put two into together the two founders of the company or left because of the sushi squad

@warriorofhades2975 Ай бұрын

I hope they add another page of spells instead of fitting rid of some and replacing. More spells would be better

@thetrav8730 6 ай бұрын

The main things holding this game back are the lack of interactive furniture/tools, co-op/multiplayer, quidditch, classes being mini games that continue throughout the school year, and end game content. The foundation is good, just needs a sprinkle of extra magic ;)

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Good points!

@crow_g1639 6 ай бұрын

Ironic they forgot to add the little magical parts that make harry potter so good typical😂

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

most of what you said is right but mmo is a death sentence for any future games

@SupportCrow 6 ай бұрын

The intro music for this vid is 🔥 by the way 👌

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, Joe!

@amadeusfuzz4320 6 ай бұрын

A good wizarding world mmo would have playable wizard chess, gobstones, quidditch, a dueling club. All multiplayer. Tie it all together

@finnredmond3192 6 ай бұрын

I would prefer a Harry Potter game and a Hogwarts tv show but instead we get a tv show of Harry Potter and a game that feels detached from the books

@ItApproaches 6 ай бұрын

There were Harry Potter games...and Hogwarts Legacy is not detatched from the books, just takes place 100 years before the events of the books.

@Uyhn26 6 ай бұрын

I hope this goes well and not be ruined by greed of some.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

🤞🤞🤞

@Jon2.028 6 ай бұрын

I would have to agree that A lot of people like myself really want to see multiplayer, while it is true that you dont necessarily need multiplayer to expand a game like hogwarts legacy to make it better or more famous i personally really just wanted online hogwarts legacy. That being said if they dont end up doing multiplayer anytime soon as long as the current content or added content that they end up adding is really good then I could live with that.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Good thoughts! I think it's important to hear from a lot of people on this, both those who want multiplayer and those who don't.

@Jon2.028 6 ай бұрын

@@RetroRaconteur I think it would be interesting to see if they made a game very much based on storyline with another game based more on multiplayer interaction with either the same storyline or a different one. To be fair though that would be a lot of work. The real question I want answered is how are they going to please both sides of the coin or are they (multiplayer/non-multiplayer players). I look forward to seeing what the future holds though.

@TroyLeavitt 6 ай бұрын

Well done, gentlemen! I think this is an important conversation to have. You are wise to be concerned that sometimes executives can lose sight of what fans want. They tend to think of IP's like costumes that you can throw on any gameplay framework and the fans will eat it up purely on the strength of the property. However, as fans well know, to be genuinely successful the developers must first respect and understand their IP. And, only after they do that, then they should seek to craft gameplay that authentically speaks to those key elements that made the IP so appealing to fans in the first place. The gameplay needs to serve as many of the fan fantasies as it can. Some of what Zaslav said concerned me, but I'm also confident that people are listening to what you have to say as representatives of the Wizarding World fanbase, so please keep voicing your concerns, perspectives, and hopes. You are making a difference!

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, Troy! Always love hearing your thoughts.

@rcash3625 6 ай бұрын

as a fallout fan who bought 76 and played it less then like 10 hours. People want multiplayer features and not a full on MMO. .. Give us PVP and MP Game modes or something but to make the entire game a MMO isn't even appealing... Never played Elder scrolls online as a ES Fan... Didnt enjoy 76. Its just changes the gameplay entirely.

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

pvp and Quidditch would work well with multiplayer, but after that the game story would be ruined. also I don't want to have to relie on other people to finish the game or to pass something I can just over lvl and beat myself.

@lorensoth4365 6 ай бұрын

It's a great game, buts it's a one and done thing. They dropped the ball with allowing you to change seasons. If there is a sequel, yes....live service and micro transactions worries me. They are gonna turn into Wizardary 101?

@HuffleDeezy 6 ай бұрын

If they don't want multiplayer or live service why not just add some type of DLC or expansion that way people that enjoy playing on single player mode can continue to pay on sync on player mode with more content

@absolutedegenerate2992 6 ай бұрын

Anybody want a hogwarts legacy 2 for the 6th and 7th years and at the end have NEWTS and have portable game files for our previous characters. More places to explore like diagon and knockturn alley. Have more spells like the patronus charm, fiendfyre, protego diabolica, and firestorm. With a visit to the ministry for all the stuff that happened last game. A fully explorable azkaban.

@absolutedegenerate2992 6 ай бұрын

Proprosed title: Hogwarts Tribute

@Vestat1 6 ай бұрын

HELL NO!!! Multiplayer would be SICK.

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

people ruined the story this is a story game mmo takes out the story it would not be HL but something different and not fun

@Vestat1 Ай бұрын

@michaelbeaver8055 You are correct about what /could/ be, just as any company /can/ decide to produce something revolutionary.

@WhatTheKristy 6 ай бұрын

I’m all about mmo. But I feel like AFTER you complete the main scenario. But I mean.. not everyone agrees. But I do love hearing y’all talk about all the possibilities!

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Interesting! So you would be all in even if it's Hogwarts Legacy getting shifted into an MMO?

@WhatTheKristy 6 ай бұрын

@@RetroRaconteur absolutely! I think it would be great! 😁

@Sexynes 6 ай бұрын

38:20 Someone go tell Avalanche this idea.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Haha. Wouldn't that be amazing?!

@dvdh4856 6 ай бұрын

Chandler better be watching..!

@deeksquad4051 6 ай бұрын

The principal reason Hogwarts Legacy, continues to be such a huge success, is the individual connection people have with the game; and trying to realize themselves in the Wizarding World. An MMORPG version of HL will dilute the individuality, of the original game; and ultimately will hurt the future of the franchise.

@AlexB-vt5xe 6 ай бұрын

I'd personally love to have the ability after the end game to travel to Mahoutokuro or any other magical school round the world for becoming a master and thus sort of continue studies but in a very different setting/ environment/ architecture/ culture etc

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

That would be incredible, but very difficult to pull off!

@AlexB-vt5xe 6 ай бұрын

@@RetroRaconteur well it'll be like creating a new game off the back of their existing coding, different maps and all, might be good as a sequal or a DLC for each school. But yeah it will require a big time investment though i could see it work and be profitable. I think the biggest downside to HG in ita current form is re-playability....casual players don't really have a good enough reason to go back at grinding achievements while if they go for the main story only it doesn't feel as fun/ rewarding

@kampfkaze1 6 ай бұрын

1. Step: New Game + & Ultra Hard Mode (two new trophies) 2. Step: new gen (and pc) exclusive Story DLC taking time between the finale and the o.w.l’s (8-10h story, new classes, new spells, more hogwarts secrets, new collectibles, new map area, new characters and so on) with better graphics, better emotions like Horizon Zero Dawn did it with the Frozen Wilds DLC! 3. Step: Hogwarts Legacy II, new Story in your 6th year at Hogwarts, better graphics, you are playing the same character at the beginning of the story a npc asks you questions about your biggest decisions from the first game (house, wand, Sebastians fate, good or bad ending, DLC decisions and so on), more rpg elements, new collectibles (chocolate frog cards), new characters (maybe a malfoy or a Longbottom), more side quests, more classes, new and different spells, moral system, more open world events, more hogwarts, new map (get rid of the south, expand to the north), new and more shops in hogsmeade, maybe diagon alley, new sectres in hogwarts new passage ways in hogwarts and so on

@katewildhorse6835 6 ай бұрын

Big mistake not to expand this amazing game with either DLCs or a full game sequel. This game is perfect as a single player. I cannot see how it would be best served by multi-player. A VR experience might be even better than multi-player option. To feel like you are really standing next to your hippogriff or attending class.

@TheDarkallience 6 ай бұрын

its far from perfect as a single player you lose interest in it shortly after finishing the game the amount of times i heard people say "man i forgot about that game" tells you alot im not advacating for a live service game for sure because i hate them. I'm a big fan of HP and even I stopped playing afterwards because of how linear the story was DLC wont change that.

@Kazanko28 6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't mind a true Harry Potter MMORPG game. I don't want any free to play heavy cash shop oriented crap though.

@rubysmith765 6 ай бұрын

At a time where I was about to stop playing games this game came right on time it kept me into gaming I don’t regret getting this game. It’s worth every penny in my opinion.

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Glad to hear how much you enjoyed it!

@sparkycreates 6 ай бұрын

I'm proud to say I did purchase a PS5 just to play Hogwarts Legacy and want more! I've now gone on to play Horizon Zero Dawn and Skyrim is next! :) I'd love to see more of these conversations in the future. You two have a great rapport and I loved hearing all your ideas. Hopefully, someone is listening!!!

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words! Awesome to hear how Legacy helped you find those other games.

@dvdh4856 6 ай бұрын

(Edit: I’m wrong here!) > Skyrim is an xbox/pc exclusive unfortunately! < But if you're enjoying Horizon Zero Dawn, its' sequel Forbidden West is supposed to be even better :D Edit: I stand corrected! I switched over from xbox to PS for HL this year and was misinformed, apologies!

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

@@dvdh4856 Skyrim is on PlayStation as well! In fact, you can get it on PS3, PS4, or PS5.

@panspermiapancakes 6 ай бұрын

Bethesda became xbox/pc exclusive for most future titles. However, all the older games they've made are still on Sony systems. So, Starfield and any future Elder Scroll or Fallout games will not be on Playstation.

@dvdh4856 6 ай бұрын

@@RetroRaconteurthanks for the correction!

@James-ed5pk 6 ай бұрын

Great conversation! You guys absolutely nailed it! I hope Hogwarts Legacy 2 isn’t live service and I hope they are able craft an amazing story and another wonderful experience that expands on the first one! I wonder if suicide squad doesn’t do well and turns out like marvel’s avengers or anthem then hopefully WB learns their lesson? I don’t know a single person that has ever wanted or asked for a live service suicide squad game. 🤷‍♂️

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, James!

@SithkalekGolfAndGaming 5 ай бұрын

multiplayer as in MMO, ill definitely try it. i would really like to multiplayer as in co op like BG3 in Hogwarts legacy. if they add live service i would go something like GTA where you can play online but its kinda separate from the single player.

@cendresaphoenix1974 3 ай бұрын

Look up harry Potter RP it's way better than any MMO would ever be.

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

but like GTA it well be the only thing they work on and not make another HL

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

@@cendresaphoenix1974 it ruined the story

@iguiste23 6 ай бұрын

Actually I think Hogwarts Legacy could be one of the very few games that could work with a co-op based online mode. Basically you can explore with up to three other people so there's one from each house in Hogwarts, which if done right could be an amazing edition. Obviously it'd be a solo game and the co-op would be optional.. Outside of that multiplayer would be dreadful and entirely ruin Hogwarts Legacy, especially live service that's a huge NO WB!.

@michaelbeaver8055 Ай бұрын

even though I don't agreed with you about co-op at lest you can see it is a single player game. BTW people ruined the story

@JustAnotherAccount8 3 ай бұрын

I'm personally very pessimistic about the future of HP games. I've been playing games for a long time, and in my eyes, they're already showing the signs of greedy management. That AND the fact that the wizarding world is a license, it gives them a monopoly over it. The second the leadership of a passionate dev team starts talking about money, you get a passion drain with all the devs leaving to either start their own company (unfortunately due to the license, they won't be able to make HP games) or they leave the industry all together. So I feel as though the damage has already been done.

@CelticNickC 6 ай бұрын

I very much dislike the current COD way of new games where companies are taking what could have been dlc and slapping a “new” sticker on it with a fresh $60+ price tag. While barely changing anything or adding anything new. That’s my current fear for a sequel to hogwarts legacy. Prelaunch, the hype for how well this game would be supported after it was released to all platforms was huge. Now it seems it’s all being forgotten. Sounds like they’re at a crossroads of “do we release the dlc content in a stitched up sequel” or do we go full fortnite route like you guys said with a multiplayer. I see many benefits to multiplayer options. Play story with friends, dueling, and quidditch (if it’s a controversy, it probably should have been added, even if we had to wait longer but oh look there’s another $60 game option. So now you’ve bought 3 games instead of one). One easy way they could do a dlc where you jump through time would be something like Tom riddles diary (obviously timeframe doesn’t work, but go with me here). How cool would it be to be sucked up into some kind of magical object into a whole other time of hogwarts? Boom new story line for a doc expansion right there

@TheNoseOfSauron7675 6 ай бұрын

if the want to make a live serves wizarding world game fine. But adding EA's predatory approach to "Live service" in Hogwarts Legacy or its sequels, after the first title made them record braking profits as a single player RPG would only serve to drive customers away and reduce future profits on what Hogwarts Legacy proved to still be a proverbial gold mine of an IP.

@Zappieroth 6 ай бұрын

A Multiplayer expansion for Hogwarts Legacy would be cool. As long as it is a seperate mode/executable. And it has a lot to do that actually makes sense and is fun to do with multiple people. But above all else I just want more content for Hogwarts Legacy. Be it story/quests/combat related just about anything new would do it for me. The thing I disliked most about Hogwarts legacy was how after the story was done... sure you could explore more but for what reason? The exploration didn't really grap me at first and even now without hundreds of mods I can't be bothered to even play. One of the things that dissapointed me the most was the lack of enemy variety and how little challenge the open world posed. Mods remedy this issue somewhat but there is so much else that could be done.

@Ontherisechosenprince 6 ай бұрын

Alot people want it to be online but i would love to see more of the wizarding world

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

For sure! We absolutely NEED to see Avalanche's interpretation of the Ministry!

@EVERYDAYGames00 6 ай бұрын

Diagon alley would be even better 😂

@Gytis_Of_KFP_The_4th_PenKing 6 ай бұрын

only live service i would accept is its own MMO with 0 microtransactions and monthly subscription like normal mmo...no "free" to play with ingame shop...im 100% willing to sub for full MMO...but if there is any ingame shop to spend irl money...im not playing that garbage

@JulianoAJ 6 ай бұрын

A free to play game that i really enjoy is Genshin Impact. IF they manage to make a Harry Potter game that feels good to play like Genshin does, then i may be interested. Nonetheless, i'm with you guys on that one, we don't need multiplayer and stuff. ALSO: I'm super into a reboot for the Harry Potter Series games. maybe even focusing on the book story rather then the movies. That's what i was thinking while playig Hogwarts Legacy,

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

I started Genshin and was blown away the level of quality. Unfortunately never had the time to go back to it, haha. Plus it seemed like a really deep game that could easily suck hours of my time 😄

@JulianoAJ 6 ай бұрын

@@RetroRaconteur True... i have spent way too much time with it. But i had fun (and i'm still having) so it was worth it.

@kylerobison1425 6 ай бұрын

They wouldn’t allow Quidditch so wouldn’t surprise me if WB tried to talk them into this

@lidular 6 ай бұрын

They already have a live service game... Quidditch champions... It even has a battle pass already. *Allegedly...

@oponomo 6 ай бұрын

the last movie wasn't deathly hallows part 2 though. We had the fantastic beasts and to many fans those were good. I personaly would enjoy watching the entire vision J.K. had for that storyline.

@relax8179 6 ай бұрын

If this game had a similar formula to, games such as elden ring (unlimited replayability, unique builds, monsters and creatures all around the world you have to fight maybe hunt for a reward, repayable dungeons ECT) you don't need a sequel right now just turn the game we already got into the ultimate harry Potter gaming experience if not they should do it with the next game

@theoutsiderjess4869 6 ай бұрын

I feel like if Avalanche can take some things from Magic Awakened, wizard unite and even Hogwarts Mystery they can make the ultimate Harry potter experience despite them being mobile games with micro transactions I'm impressed with some of thr features they add

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

I agree with some of this too. There are A LOT of good ideas in Magic Awakened...it's just in a package that many console/PC players are against.

@amyjones25 10 күн бұрын

A game where you play as an auror for the ministry of magic would be amazing

@RetroRaconteur 9 күн бұрын

For sure!!! I've wanted this for so long. It could be truly incredible.

@naraj85 6 ай бұрын

This feels nostalgic 🤍🐍💚

@RetroRaconteur 6 ай бұрын

Love talking all things Wizarding World with James!

@silverlegion9050 6 ай бұрын

Im not for mmo keep it singel player. I want to return to the seventh year because that is something we dont know about the test etc

@ItApproaches 6 ай бұрын

Don't you mean 6th year? We were a 5th year.

@Majeika1976 6 ай бұрын

I like to play games when I want to play them and not rely on others, or them on me to play. HL2 in just multi player is just a no for me. I haven't even bothered with the co-op stuff that's been in various older single player openworld games. I also don't really want them to put Quidditch fully in to HL2 - If I want a sports game I will buy one

@Leeonrf 5 ай бұрын

At first, i thought HLegacy would be a MMO, so i didnt cared at all, but latter i realised it was a single player game and that insta accioed me back to HP fandom And i dont think they should add more content to the sequel.First game has A LOT of meaningless content most players just dont care to do They need to create engaging content that adds to the quality of the overall world, not just numbers on a checklist They really should try the "Bully" (the game) approach, to give us that Hogwarts SIM experience we have been waiting for so long

@dankflo 6 ай бұрын

More realistically PortKey Games will end up making a free to play MMO based in the Wizarding world, I highly doubt they'd take hogwarts legacy and make that multiplayer. I'm assuming it'd be more akin to something like that hogwarts mobile game.

@laffywaffy1989 6 ай бұрын

Im not a fan of online service or multiplayer option for this game to me if they do i will not play it and ill be out they should just make a sequel that finish the last two years or even bring in more spells and the other magical creatures plus maybe change the wands where certain customization of the wands wood, core and wand length and flexibility that affects certain aspects of it like makes certain types of spells stronger other spells have shorter cool down and even give spells longer range to cover and affect