Technologically induced lucid dreaming, is not actually lucid dreaming. It's called virtual reality. 😂 You already have all that you need.

Practice the real thing and you'll probably have one before you get your hands on theoretical tech. People always want reward for no work. You get what ya give

​@@ShangaelThunda222I think they mean using technology to induce lucid dreams which is definitely not the same thing as VR

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@@theironrubberduck No, they're talking about virtual reality. They don't want to actually do the work required to become conscious in their subconscious state, so they would rather have a piece of technology do it for them. That's called Full dive gear in the world of Sword Art Online. Or a pod in The Matrix movies LOL. It's more like simulating a lucid dream than it would be actually having a lucid dream. In order to have a lucid dream, it's you who has to be Lucid, not a piece of technology. Something else dictating your dream experience, is not you lucid dreaming. That is something else dictating your dream experience. Or virtual reality. Call it whatever you want, it still equates to the same thing. If you require something other than yourself to trigger Lucidity, then you're not really lucid dreaming. You don't know how to. That's the point. It's not about the experience, it's about learning how to lucid dream. It's about being capable of being conscious in subconscious state, because that's where all your dark shadowy skeletons in the closet like to hide. It's all about you having full control over your subconscious mind, making your conscious and subconscious in tune with each other. Using technology to attempt this, is completely missing the point of doing it in the first place.

That's not lucid dreaming. That's simply virtual reality.

@shangaelthunda9607 You're misunderstanding. I'm talking about brain computer interfaces which is a type of nueral implant which is likely to have many technological advancements, some of which I've stated as being used as a lucid dream induction device and games that are played in dreams, like the implant manipulates your senses to create a specific lucid dreaming experience when loading up. Kind of like how when you're dreaming sounds and other senses can infiltrate the drdam manipulating it. Same for a vr mmorpg set inside a shared lucid dream space. Plus shared dreaming is hypothetically possible with the use of bcis which could change dreams forever if possible. And yes I know lucid dreaming means you know you're in a dream, I actually make dreaming related content

This all remains in the realm of speculation keep in mind

@@shadw4701 I understand what you're saying, I'm just simply saying it's not lucid dreaming. If you go to sleep with a device on/in your head, and that device is designed to steer your thought processes while you sleep, controlling your experience, that's not lucid dreaming. That's something completely different. It seems to be much more akin to a form of Hypnosis or Virtual Reality. Like Full Dive Gear from Sword Art Online or even like the pods in the Matrix. If you look at the Matrix movies, we could use exactly what you just said, as an example of what they're doing. To me that's not lucid dreaming at all. That is an outside force, in this case technology, controlling your dream. True lucid dreaming is your 100% in control, with no outside forces affecting it at all. Of course there's levels of Lucidity, but those levels dictate your level of control within the dream, not the level of control that something else has within your dream. Even if you hear a sound outside, that somehow manipulates your dreamscape, you know and see that effect in real time and you can change it at will. That wouldn't be the case with something like Neuralink or another BCI. If you go to sleep with an artificial device dictating what you're seeing, that's not even really dreaming, let alone lucid dreaming. That's something completely different. That's literally what's happening in The Matrix movies and in Sword Art Online. The only difference is, they never wake up, or at least they're not supposed to LOL. Hopefully our technology never reaches the level where it can stop you from waking up out of a virtual reality. I mean, of course it will LOL, but before it does, I would hope that something absolutely destroys Humanitiy's technological capabilities, just to make sure this type of Technology never comes into existence. I might not have the right term for it, which is why I'm saying it's virtual reality, but that is not lucid dreaming. And yes, dream sharing, I completely understand that concept. That's just recording someone's dreams, so they can share it with others. That's not manipulating the dream in anyway. But if you and another person, put a piece of technology on your head or literally in your brain, and that technology creates the space that you and that person share, you're not in a shared dream, you're in a shared virtual reality created by a piece of technology that's connecting you together the same exact way a network connects people together in online video games today. The only difference is instead of looking at a TV screen and playing a game with your friends, you would be IN the game. That is LITERALLY virtual reality. That is literally the highest level of the metaverse. That is in no way Dreaming or lucid dreaming LOL. If somebody or something is manipulating your dream space from the outside, that's not you being Lucid, that's just you dreaming at best, at worst it's virtual reality LOL. Something else is lucid and controlling your dream, not you. You're simply experiencing a pre-programmed experience. This is basically the definition of virtual reality. 😂 You get what I'm saying? Lucid dreaming requires practice for a reason. Because to actually be FULLY Lucid in a dream, you need to be capable of being conscious within your subconscious. That's what lucid dreaming actually is. It's not just about the experience you're having within the dream, it's about the fact that you are capable of being consciously aware while in a subconscious state. It's a lot more than just having something dictating a dream like experience. Lucid dreaming isn't even about the experience itself. It's about the ability itself LOL. Using technology to attempt doing it, completely kills the entire point of it to begin with and doesn't even actually achieve the goal LOL. It's much more like a synthetic simulated version of lucid dreaming, as opposed to the real thing. It's like simulating a lucid dream "experience", so you can experience what it would be like in a lucid dream, but it's not actually lucid dreaming. That person would still need to do the practice necessary to actually lucid dream for real.

hope this is still goin for ya! keep it up! also, *journal

This statement is exactly what's wrong with humanity 😂. I really hope it's a joke.

@@ShangaelThunda222 I held a talk about Brain-Computer-Interfaces on my uni around two weeks ago, so I am pretty familiar with the problems associated with these. But I think once we have the basic technology up to a point where the risk is minimal and the range of usability is high enough (f.e. the lucid dreaming "app"), then I'd really want to get one