If you'd make "Battlefield 2042 Reimagined" I'd be soooo happy.

"The Americans are deploying troops in America we don't know why but we must put a stop to this"

I don't like the "hero characters" thing, I prefer the "unkown soldier" that you might be able to customize yourself.

I loved Templin's idea about a Battlefield: 1952 game depicting an alternate history where NATO and the Warsaw Pact fight a conventional war. You could do so many interesting world-building changes to bring us to that point. It could show different fronts of such a war outside of Europe like altered versions of the Korean War, Algerian Independence War and Arab-Israeli conflicts. Hell, you could have the Soviets invade Alaska if you're willing to play by "rule of cool " a little.

"We must prevent the Russian Airsoft Team from capturing our hill"

The most amazing scifi tech that seems to be available in 2042 is the ability to phase through elevator doors.

I really like the idea of a shooter that has the same level of world building as our favorite RPGs. Where item descriptions can give you just as much insight into the world as some of the cutscenes and character dialogue. I like getting invested in a world so much that I try to absorb every detail that I can. So many games lack those details

The game feels unfinished. They have clearly held back 70% of the game to fill out their " live service "....... It is not worth the price that they are asking or I unfortunately paid......

You do make a good point about the camouflage names. It would add so much to the world if they threw in tidbits like that, but it seems a lot of FPS players only care about multi-player and hardly ever play through the campaign or story.

0:18 now I'm just picturing a templin field agent pretending to be fighting on whatever side and he is just complaining about the shoddy world building of the war to some very confused in universe soldiers

Even Battlefield 2142's worldbuilding (100 years later from 2042) still makes a lot more sense than 2042's worldbuilding. The objective on each map makes sense and plausible, both sides have a distinct design philosphy and battle doctrine: PAC vehicle has rounded design, EU has angular design. PAC mainly uses plasma weapons, while EU uses ballistics. PAC has hover drives, EU has tracks. PAC has high mobility but low armor, while EU has high armor and low mobility. The camo also makes sense, in snowy map, everyone uses their own distinct snow camo, same with the desert map and no nonsensical camo like 2042's Tier 1 camo Ah how I missed the 2142's days, futuristic warfare, but in battlefield game, with BF2's class-based system and scoreboard, and the titan assault game mode is absolute beast to play, and this was a game that's released in 2006!!! Something has gone terribly wrong when a 2021 game is worse in terms of gameplay, worldbuilding and lore than a game released 15 years ago

Given where the maps are and the whole Nopats idea, it feels like a better idea would have been to present the conflict as a whole bunch of proxy wars, with each side giving their clients both weapons/vehicles and Nopat mercenaries. American and Russian armies aren't literally in Western India, but a Pakistani army is, or India has broken down into an ethnic civil war, and American/Russian Nopat armies are in open but undeclared war with each other in support one side or the other. That's also more realistic, given that it answers the whole "where are those nuclear weapons?" question that any future superpower war scenario has to dance around.

the camo being the same on both sides isn't nitpicky. That's verry important for identifying friend or foe, especially if both sides use the same camo

This really shows how dumb they think their audience is. Perhaps not the developers, or even the game designers, but the people managing it, directing where effort can and cannot be spent. Those people think that their player base is made up of 12 year olds and idiots, apparently. And sure, maybe there is a decent percentage, but does that really justify cutting corners for everyone else?

They said they cut out a campaign because it would allow them to spend more time on everything else, but it seems like they cut out a campaign because they ran out of creativity.

The thing I find must unbelievable about this scenario is how some countries just collapse. I can see the government's of third world countries collapsing due to economic and environmental circumstances but countries like China, the UK, Japan, France, India, Germany and Canada doesn't seem likely. This would have been a great opportunity to do something new, old allies becoming rivals, countries being annexed instead of the same old generic America Vs Russia.

Welcome to battlefield 2042 where if you shoot a man in the head it doesn’t count as a headshot

I have a theory: the jankiness of the factions' operations and organization might be explained if the goal was to _get rid_ of the operators and specialists so neither side has to keep their end of the arrangement.

I love these details, and hearing your opinion on them Also, "Generica". Love it.

It feels like the dev team used all their creativity on the phrase "weather event" and just handpicked the most generic parts of every other Battlefield to make a game around that phrase.

The more I see about the game's setting the more baffled I am with Dice's lazyness. Mostly because a similar setting was done by Ubisoft with Tom Clancy's Endwar way too many years ago. You have the traumatic event that sets everything in motion, nuclear war in the Middle East being much quicker than climate change, but as time moves forward the world starts to fall apart all the same. There's not much around it but in the campaign one can hear brief snippets of news that talk about devastating droughts, monstrous typhoons, crops failing, famine, climate refugees and new powerful diseases. It only makes it more obvious the nonsensical war the three superpowers are fighting rather than adressing these issues that will eventually affect them too. And speaking of superpowers, having the war be a three way free for all actually made for an interesting twist, adding to that that none of the superpowers were the villain. The whole thing starts due to one Russian officer, but not due to Russia itself. In fact, in the prologue to the war is the USA who jumps the gun and attacks Europe, kicking off World War III. And throwing the European Federation in the usual statu quo was a nice touch, since it's not the usual enemies fighting, but also former allies. Yeah, China was absent, but oh well... The factions were both recognizable and interesting (despite falling in some tropes). The US which hasn't changed that much, but part of it's lore reveals that they occupied parts of latin america, seizing valuable resources despite them being pretty much self-sufficient; Russia experiences an economic boom with its newfound wealth, allowing them to get back much of the soviet sphere of influence; while some countries of the EU form the European Federation that relies heavily on cutting edge tech for their needs, although they have their own adventures in Africa (I think Nigeria its mentioned). It's not just these three, there are more countries out there, but these are the top dogs. And that actually leads me into the fight itself. Each faction has its own tech, camo patterns, vehicles, upgrades... that can be traced to and resemble the ones in current use (with some exceptions). Hell the regular troops use current day weapons, the best of the best reserved for the playable elite units. And most of the battlefields are actually strategic places. Refineries, satelite uplinks, mountain passes, river crossings, military bases... all the way to the capitals of the enemy factions. Assets that would be valuable in the war. But instead, we are stuck with Battlefield 2042. Yay... TL; DR: Just remake Endwar, Ubisoft. Or make a first person shooter in that setting. It would be much more interesting than this.

This is if in World War 2, The Germans and the Soviets fought in Istanbul instead of Kursk or Narva.

tank designs are always something interesting to examine

Ultimtarely this shows how much the devs actually care about the setting that they simply reduced it down to two shooter teams of American and Russian militaries and their army surplus side kicks. The ignoring of any decent ideas on where to wage wars, Destroying the EU, beefing up Russia as the only foe to simply be the antagonist, and ignoring the rest of the world in whats effectively a wohke wash, catchy but kind of hollow aesthetic designs, and our cast of two dozen characters fighting the whole war by themsleves. This is probably more comparrable to a game like TF2 or overwatch without any of the charm those characters and settings have to give their appeal.

2142 did all of this ten times better. You could tell how the war was going just based on where the battles are fought.

Why do I get this feeling we'll be seeing a reimagining video on the world of Battlefield 2042 soon?

3:21 ah Corporal Some Guy, first name Some, last name Guy, he was a true patriotic American hero, god bless him

The whole world of 2042 seems bland. Since they cut the campaign I guess they went with a "no story at all approach“. Gameplay is fun though

Honestly I prefer the wacky nonsensical worldbuiding of CoD to this. That was at least entertaining, Battlefield 2042 just feels empty.

Still miss good Storys like in World in Conflict (or even the older ghost recon [combat in south osetia, Ukraine and Belarus are not SO fictional :p ] games...) 😢

Your take on the mission briefings reminds me of 2142s mission briefs, which give a bit more personality to what are otherwise sort of uninspired grey and orange cities and installations

DICE: So smaller nations aren't able to do anything and the conflict is only about the US and Russia. Also DICE: Here is a Jaguar from France, the French can't join this war but they can sell weapons to both fighting nations.

2042's atmosphere just feels incredibly wasted. Imagine battles taking place in Tiberian Sun-esque ion storms or fighting through the flooded remains of city. I understand they are a bit limited given it needs to "adhere" to 4 and 2142 but having WW4 take place in a world falling apart is such a neat concept. Instead, most maps just feel like places that exists right now with Hourglass being the only one showing significant effects of climate change.

Thank god for this lol, with the huge amount of stuff to criticize in this game I feel like people forget how uninspired the art direction is for what could’ve been an amazing setting. EDIT: Just finished the video and you didn’t even have time to get to small arms/optics haha, which are certainly some of the more egregious choices

I asked for an equipment vid in one of the streams so thanks

Feels a bit lacking in world development, like there's not really any stakes more like "go here, hold this, take back this"

Weirder still, if you look at the specialists biographies, it shows that they’re all no pats with the exception of two. I say two because one is not confirmed. The exceptions are “Boris” (who is suspected of being a Russian plant) and “Paik” (who is undercover). It’s like dice took the time to make hero characters but not generic soldiers for each faction.

Most points I agree (lol tier one skin) The one in the briefing for the ship breaking yard though was because of occupying us forces recovering a Russian sub based on the Russian side’s briefing.

1:15 -- I feel like not having enough face models so players don't notice when they're repeated could've been fixed by sticking helmets on everyone. Seems to work for other franchises.

It's an EA game, is anyone really that surprised that the world of this game has fallen flat on its face?

Welcome to the future of sci-fi.

The battlefield franchise is so lame these days. I’m still waiting for bad company 3

Working elements of worldbuilding are a strong addition even to pure-multiplayer games, and people do care about them. But it's easy for executive producers to pretend players just don't, since skipping it saves half a percent of budget, and makes an absurdly compressed production cycle less implausible.

I mean, speaking as someone who served for 5 years in the United States Navy Information Dominance community, the "mission brief" that was said by that dude wasn't exactly that far off from what I had to deal with. Most of the time our movements basically boiled down to the higher-ups saying "The Russians/Chinese/North Koreans are here- we don't know why they're here, but we have to stop them." It was up to people like me to figure out why they were there in the first place and brief the CO, XO, and Operations department about what could be there and what they could be doing there to begin with. As lame as the the reasoning behind each match is, it's kind of just a reflection of both countries attitudes towards conflict with each other (we're here because they're here)- however it could, and honestly should, be better even if no one will pay attention to it. The fact that hardly anyone would really care why they're fighting on the map is probably the reason why the developers chose such a basic set-up brief for the match.

Makes me miss the amazing details in BF1

It’s interesting because video games like call of duty and previous battlefields have really gone all in on military jargon. I used to play those games in the barracks with my real life platoon. We thought it was kind of funny when a voice actor would scream military terminology but it turns out it’s worse when they just throw it all away. I know they probably want to appeal to a more casual audience but I don’t think many casual players would notice what’s coming in over the radio right before they drop into a battle. Only the people that actually care about the story do and they’re the ones that end up cheated.

so the early clone wars has begun.

There can’t possibly be any game more overlooked than BF2142. I played each one in the series, never have I ever had a better time and memories by playing Battlefield than with this 2142… I hope so much for a comeback (or a re-opening of the servers!) The story was surely lacking but Titan mode was so funny to play with friends.

To be honest 2042 probably needed a campaign. Didn't have to be good, Just something to do some world building.

good points but I think you shouldn't expect much from a game that doesn't even have a campaign and for an average player, that 9 min cinematic they released is the first and the last piece of info they are going to process, furthermore it's just a cheap 'look it's those doods from BF4' thing, maybe they did it on purpose when they realized that the story is so shallow that they just went with what they got

great video! I would love to see a full battlefield 2042 reimagined!

Its kind of funny hearing the Video's Gripes with BF2042's Map Description on its intros, because I'm pretty sure Battlefield 2 did a great job with it(reasons from Oil, Logistics, to Strategic Location or Objective). And I think BF2142, BF3, and even BF4 had a good description or at least hints on why there is a battle on there maps. For Example, In BF2's map Dalian Plant(this is the map that I remember its description the most) which is set around a Chinese Nuclear Power Plant. The United States Marine Corps(US) is attempting to cease this vital power plant in order to disrupt China's Northern Electrical Grid/Supply and the Defending People's Liberation Army(China) must stop them to ensure the safety and operation of this Vital Infrastructure.

There is one question that has been bugging me whenever I see any of these future wars, particularly those in the 2040 to 2080 range, and answering this question is not as easy to answer as one might think: What is the fuel used in war? The aforementioned time range is projected to be when all oil reserves that are comparatively easy to tap are drained. Militaries are still heavily dependent on fossil fuels, so how exactly are they powering their war machines? Biofuels sound like an obvious answer, but not really. Yeah, they can cover some of the machines, but synthesizing enough on a scale large enough to power everything is not exactly feasible, especially how most of the processes that produce biofuels that could be used for such still rely on materials that still come from fossil fuels (gasoline is just one of many things produced from crude oil - the heavier components are typically used in manufacturing all kinds of other products, including the vast majority of plastics). Even if you found other materials to use to produce this, odds are it is already being used for some other critical purpose, like, for example, food, and there is so much land that can be utilized for agriculture - much of which is already showing signs of failing and are only continuing on due to heavy usage of fertilizers (another thing that requires fossil fuel components). Nuclear could be the answer for navies as that is already the case for a slowly yet steadily increasing number of ships, and it might - *MIGHT* - work with certain army vehicles...but all army vehicles, not to mention aircraft? Sorry, but even Fallout acknowledges that this is not exactly feasible. This should go without saying, but renewables like solar and wind are obviously out. They might factor in to some degree for a base's defenses, but they were be mostly, if not entirely, useless on a dynamic and ever-changing frontline. So I ask once more: what is the fuel for these war machines?

The videos about variations on the New Republic and New Order and such are interesting, but for some reason I really love this one about the smaller missed opportunities. Great stuff!

2042 reimagined please!! maybe you can do the battles reimagined as well.

The templin institute should be involved in story writing of video games of this genre

The biggest disappointment with this gane for me was the lack of a story/campaign

Doesn’t feel like armies fighting, just a bunch of random people showed up for a fight.

You should make a Battlefield 2042 reimagined

"Hey you, Private of the Generican Army! We have to protect this general area from the Genericastanians from Genericastan! They need the general oil reserves to fuel their Genericastanian equipment. They will be no match against our marginally superior general purpose weaponry!" - General Gene Generson , Generican Ground Guard Garrison

As a Battlefield *2142* veteran [released 2006, sequel to Battlefield 2] I was really confused at first. EA seem obsessed with the number *42* in their titles, _what is the significance of that number?_ this question will haunt me … it must mean something? There must be some answer, some _ultimate answer?!_

What you described with the map briefings is exactly what they did with 2142. It's not like it can't be done, they just chose not to, it seems

Personally, I think that they gave up with the storytelling and are now going full Rule of Cool and these are just details in which they maybe should've put some thought into.

Even though battlefield 2042 has holes in it. I still prefer it to vanguard. It's the lesser of two shits.

Another design choice I don't understand is the inconsistency of infantry weapons. Yes, some are based on weapons currently undergoing trials, such as the MCX Spear being the M5A3, but others don't make sense. A lever action rifle from the 1870s and .22 rifles would likely be all but useless against mid-20th century body armour.

not even a front line but a bunch of "separate" proxy conflicts

As usual you made a very good point and I can't stop agreeing with you

Right, now I need you to look at details in BFBC2 and BF3. Both phenomenal.

Yes! We must fight for the fate of team 1 in Generica!

battlefield 2042 to is just a flashy version of the red and blue teams fighting over a box canyon

I thought in 2042 the camouflage would be so advance that you can't even see the tank imagine that

Basically to sum it up it never really feels like the world is at war. Rather there’s just random skirmishes going on in random places.

Is that Bandog from Ace Combat 7?

Lmao battlefield 2042: attack of the clones.

I do hope they get around to changing the scout and AA vehicle on the Russian side, but looking at their previous game BFV, I highly doubt they will *coughGermansusingC47scough*

Most of the lore, especially the objectives of the battles, is hidden away in the player card images. However, even then its pretty surface level.

Perfectly made video as always, would love a Dice Developer to see this and actually understand it. The vehicles are a mess, both Russia and the US using the wildcat, which isn't even a mobile anti air vehicle as anti air is sad. They could of gave the Russians the BMP2 Terminator tank as a different option. Also only 22 weapons like 4 assault rifles is a complete joke. And the level choices while stunning to look at make zero military sense. Unfortunately I think I'm going to shelve this game as I bought it, played 5 hours and was just bored. Keep up the great videos by the way 👍

I still remember at Beta the more i play , the more background story didn't make sense its become

It kind of feels like the background to the tabletop game Infinity, but on a army wide scale instead of black ops teams

After playing 2042 for the past week, I've been really feeling like they don't have a single writer on the team(s). I was going to say they had only had one writer, but literally anybody can make a more cohesive story and world if they just lazily came up with random ideas. I think this setting has potential, but they just need literally anyone with an imagination to pull this mess of worldbuilding into a story. They did this with Payday 2 where they originally had no story direction for many years, but then they hired a writer who was able to take the many dangling plot threads left over the years and tied them together into something unexpectedly deep and intriguing. I think Payday would actually make a great subject for a Templin episode because the story and lore go in a completely different direction from what you would expect from a game inspired by heist movies.

You know I could have easily ignored all this stuff, if they hadn't put in the specialists, where rather than being just a random soldier in an army, you are now a clone of a person with a name and backstory, feels way more call of duty than it does battlefield.

It really feels like they missed the mark with this story stuff. China not being a player is so strange especially with geographic positioning to the maps. In bf4 I kinda cared because it made sense (to an extent) but here its just like, oh boy hero shooter but big and russian/american voices saying we capped/lost points.

Me: *Misreads Battlefield 2042 as Battlefield 2142* Also me: "OH BOY Battlefield 2142" Video: *starts* yet again me: "Oh Battlefield 2042, not Battlefield 2142......" *sad walker driver noises*

You have actually forgot many things:The journey of no-pats that ties all these locations together and battlefield 2042 info wars podcast

Couldn't Russian and US forces using the same vehicles and camo be explained as the No-Pats buying their own vehicles? A combination of host nations supplying No-Pat armies, as well as No-Pats buying their own equipment as they are, well, No-Pats.

They couldn't even be bothered to come up with two camo schemes? Fuck me sideways, that's lazy.

I really like the idea of some guy in a "Templin Institute"-Shirt come out of a dimension portal, having a look around and then say "Yo, your war is boring and makes no sense!.":D

I sometimes wonder if the templin institute is the predecessor of the combine from half-life. They have the same masks...

The more detailed lore, the better. Those scattered all over the world make no sense. There is no explanation, the clone problem does its part to not feel immersed at all.

Totally agree with your points, the story just as the game is all over the place and I'll defined. Keep up the good work!

Thank you the English subtitle.

The thing with the camo god damnn i love that i hope they imply that

Online shooters like this need to manage a balance in their mapmaking. On the one hand, players (and developers) want unique and innovative maps set in exciting locations. On the other hand, these maps should have purpose and fit into the narrative the game is trying to tell. One example of the latter is Call of Duty Modern Warfare (2019), the gameplay was great but nearly all of the maps were set in either middle of nowhere Russia, middle of nowhere "generic unspecified Middle East country", or some random block in London. The multiplayer maps fit perfectly into MW's story and themes of modern clandestine warfare, but they just weren't interesting. On the opposite end is something like BF2042. The Antarctic map is unique and very fun but there's no explanation given on why you're there or what you're fighting for.

Im writing this prematurely but the celtic union is around in bf2042 according to the opening cinematic

sounds like assembly line game production, you have a core that they have perfected over the previous many games with blocks of generic additions someone picked out of a catalogue then taped on at each stage to try flesh it out as a new game instead of a clone of the old game.

Would have been fascinating if the No-Pats functioned like medieval bandits; raiding coastlines and rural regions forcing different countries to hire them as mercenaries. Could even be like the Foederati in the Late Roman era where they are promised land since they lost theirs.

The duplicated vehicles on both sides isn't too surprising when we consider the game was produced by the same devs who in BFV felt that both German and British paratroops should deploy from the same C-47 transport aircraft.

5:00 the America tanks of BF2042 remind me a lot, at least in term of profile, of the Israeli Merkava Mk.1 MBT from the 1970s. Even back on the first teaser trailers for the game, when I saw the tanks I'm like okay new Abrams...umm wait a sec... I'm not saying that they are Merkava Mk.5s, but the design of the turret I would agree was inspired or based on the Mk.1

Explaining what happened to tombstone squad after bf4

"no explanation of how people got there" almost like something you'd see in a campaign..