I always interpreted the "Intergalactic Banking Clan" name to be made out of an effort to make a grand, spectacular name. Sort of like "Universal Studios"

Honestly, the entire CIS military is just genius. If it wasn't for good old Cheev they could have gotten much much further

The Best thing IMO opinion about the CIS is that they don't fall into many story tropes we're used to. They aren't the domineering fascist bad guys or imperialistic hegemons or even freedom loving good guys like with the republics. Politically the CIS is diverse but united in the fight for representation, profit and anti corruption. It is not an organisation that would come into being on it's own and it makes sense because of it. If anything the CIS is like a mix between the Rebel Alliance and the Hutts.

the CIS has really interesting ship designs and fleets, they have good variety but could use some smaller corvettes in my opinion. could do a lot to deal with republic fighters.

Modeled after the shift in production when the US entered WWII, the CIS has analogies for many of the changes industries made to support the war effort, and not just the ones you know you would think in the world of aircraft, firearms, and vehicles. 2 off the top of my head was Maytag, who stopped making washing machines to produce firearm and aircraft components, and Ford, which not just made vehicles but nearly anything from boats, B-24 aircraft, M4 tanks, and more.

CIS is so terrifying as a concept that they not only nerfed the droids capabilities, but also gave them really silly voices and personalities to undercut the pure horror of facing a limitless army of unfeeling world-conquering killing machines... I love how Mando's hatred of droids comes from his experience with this. It's great character development but also EXCELLENT world-building because I always felt like nobody really took the battledroids too seriously when I was a kid.

Imagine if Palpatine didn't limit the CIS's droid intelligence, tactics and weaponry! (Edit) Wow, I honestly didn't expect this to be the most liked comment in this video's comment section!

The CIS honestly was a logistical triumph. Just the existence of their fleets was brilliant

Having Droid starfighters, especially tri-fighters, would be an incredible compliment to any fleet. Also, the lucrehulk is just awesome.

I'm proud of the CIS

The CIS are my favorite Star Wars faction, they’re ships and battle droids are just amazing

I do like how the Lukrehulk's origin as civilian freighters helps explain why, despite being utterly coated in light laser cannons, the ships had several holes in their defenses that Republic starfighters could exploit.

Honestly the CIS were simply geniuses! The fact they were able to amass such fleets and ships so quickly and effectively is mind boggling. And the different classes were unique. The republic had two class mainly. The Venators and the smaller light cruisers I don’t know the class name of. Each CIS ship class were really multi-functional and had multiple side rolls outside their main rolls which is so awesome!

CIS is the more realistic of the two armies. I love cloned and know they're elite but you can't convince me that the clones managed to spread themselves over an entire galaxy when only numbering in the millions. WW2 had more active troops than clones that's supposed to fight across the galaxy.

I won’t lie, I’ve always loved the clones but damn the CIS ships were always cold asf 🤣

The Grand Republic had a fleet of primarily "Do Everything" capital ships with a few corvettes and frigates here and there. The CIS had a more traditional fleet comprised of ships with specific purposes in mind that work best as part of a battle group.

I'm Republic through and through, but i've really come to appreciate the CIS ship design. Their fleets were much more varied and are armed to the teeth.

6:41, That's a good point. I've always found it interesting that the Techno-Union made basically everything for the Confederacy. But when you look at where it all came from, The Techno-Union was just the final assembly plant. They covertly sourced, bought out, or outright stole their designs for Baktoid Armor Workshop and Combat Automata from other companies. I imagine that in the aftermath of the Invasion of Naboo, the change in management from Trade Federation to Techno-Union was barely noticed since Wat Tambor already ran Baktoid.

If not for Palpatine and Dooku meddling the CIS could easily have won.

The CIS as a faction is so complex and unique in the Star Wars setting. It’s not a generic evil empire of sith faction, nor the very standard rebel one. A wholly new creative element to the Star Wars world. Shame they followed it up in the sequels with just “more empire but evilier” XD

Just imagine being a civilian at the start of the clone wars. There's tensions, sure, but to your knowledge there hasn't been a major military force in the galaxy in centuries. And then, over night, a giant faction arises to fight yours and both pull up with some of the largest armies ever seen.

The Interesting Thing Is That The CIS Probably Would Have Won The Clone Wars If Palpatine Wasn't Holding Them Back.

I believe that as stated by Mace Windu in Legends, at around the beginning stages of the clone wars, the CIS Navy outnumbered the Republic's navy by almost 4 orders of magnitude. And I think it's probably thanks to all of these facilities pumping out thousands of Munificent frigates as mentioned in this video. HOWEVER, I ALSO believe that as the war went on, the Republic was starting to win more and more, and this is probably due not only to better tactics and more veteran soldiers, but also due to the share production capability of the Republic. Like the Venator for instance, the Republic had those vessels ready 7 weeks into the clone wars, and by the battle of Coruscant, the Republic had literally thousands of those vessels in that ONE engagement alone. In my mind, the Republic probably had at least 10'000 Venators total (As this number would be more than twice as small as the Imperial Star Destroyers of the Empire, which makes sense considering the Empire's military doctrine probably increased by orders of magnitude) So, 10'000 Venators, built within a period of 3 years ca. That is an INSANE manufacturing capacity, and looking at the Republic's manufacturing facilities, this number may even make sense. Kuat for instance is one of, if not THE biggest capital ship manufacturer in the Galaxy! If we say a Venator takes about 6 months to build (Based upon the time it takes Mon-Cala's shipyard to pump out Mon-Cala cruisers) Then, if Kuat starts making the Venators 4 months and a week before the war starts, they would have 'em ready by their introduction at 7 weeks into the war. So. Let's see how many Venators the Republic would need to make in order to have 10'000 by the third years end. Let's say Kuat starts making 9 Venators on day one of their production of said ship. Then the NEXT DAY they start producing 9 more and then 9 more the next day and so on and so fourth. Then Kuat could produce about 1600-ish Venators at any given time at over 180 separate stages of construction! Once the first 9 are done, then Kuat would have 9 available facilities to create more Venators from, thus continually producing Venators constantly throughout the entire war. But this sounds ludicrous, doesn't it? 1600 Venators at 180 separate Stages of construction all the time sounds insane. But Kuat's facilities are massive. Seriously massive! The diameter of the planet itself is 10'000 km. and the orbital ring has a even larger diameter. There could be thousands of kilometer sized facilities that could accommodate construction even of THIS insane scale! And besides, Kuat isn't alone either. Alanteen Six, Anaxes, Ringo Vinda etc. etc. All of which could take the load of Kuat and combined create a fleet so massive and so quickly, it could turn the tide of the war by literally outproducing the Separatists!

To me the CIS is my favorite faction is Star Wars. Think about it, a single group of maga factories tucked away could produce and support a force from ground to space in a very short time like not other faction. That is why to me CIS strongholds way far away could have outlived the Empire, let alone the Republic. To me this is a missed opportunity for some really cool stories! Thank you for posting this! I have been a subscriber since you were just starting out, glad to still be here and to watch you grow! CIS forever!

The CIS has the clear advantage in both Military, Naval and Economic power. Only reason they lost, was because Sidious planed it so. Had the war broken out without Sidious guiding it, then the Republic would have been on the back foot for the entire war. Not to mention that the several attempted peace treaties would at some point break through.

I’ve always had a fascination with the ships of the CIS fleets. So much so that I’ve spent the last few years creating an entire lego CIS fleet. They certainly are well designed.

Man keep up the good video being watching for multiple years now

Cis is and forever my favorite faction. Yes they may have dumb b1’s and meant to lose. But they are just so awesome, and if they had their way could of won. Wish we had more Lego’s of these capital ships.

I just saw this in my recommended and it intrigued me but i didn’t realized you just posted it 💀

The production speed and size of the CIS Navy in the old Expanded Universe was very fast, big, and pretty impressive how fast it was mobilized. If it was more effective I think it would rival the size of Warhammer 40k's the Imperium of Man's navy if it was under the right conditions and environment to be given the chance.

I always thought it was an interesting (anti?) parallel that the republic had all these clones and had to rush to get venators out for them to crew, while the empire had all these katana fleet dreadnoughts and had to rush out clones to crew them in the thrawn trilogy Edit: especially since the thrawn trilogy predates the prequels and didn't have GLs framework to go off of

According to the diagram at 5:18, the CIS frigate and munificent had a prow mounted turbo laser. You don’t see it used, but it’s deadly to larger ships but slow to maneuver. Edit: correction, you do see it being used around the 6:49 mark. One or 2 of the frigates fire it.

Let's be blunt . The C I S actually had their shit together industrially . A Big shame they fell for the Lies and Empty promises of the BAD GUYS . Palpatine was a GOD level manipulator .

I wouldn't be surprised if CIS Munefiscant Frigates would be useable as armed and mobile Comms relays even after the Galactic Civil War. Change the weapon load-out to favor point defense and they would do better agaisnt fighter swarms.

Personally I’ve always loved world building via interstellar navy and vehicles. CIS def wins a big gold star in my book

Finally! The best faction is getting some love!

Would really love a video where you make a perfected CIS fleet like you did with the Empire

Echo: "the more tactical droids fought, the more they learned and won."

A lot of what you said reminds me of historians talking about America arming for WW2. Leveraging a massive consumer output to turn out massive war assets. Many small US companies doing what they could, in any small part, that would lead to a much larger project.

its also cool how they were able to produce a large amount of droids before the war as "security droids"

One thing I always imagined for the CIS ship production was that they even much before the war started to pruduce the paets needed for ships, meaning they produced armor parts, trusters and maybe even weapons/turbolasers but all this without assembling any ships completely, so that they wouldn't break any galactic treaties but could at any point assemble a giant navy with much reduced effort by skipping the early production processes

Every time I listen to Resonance - Home I think of your channel, Great Video Eck.

Been watching old Tapcaf transmissions on Legends books, love it - would love to see a video about a guide to audiobooks in legends

As much as I grew up being a huge Clone fanboy, these days I can't help but look at the CIS and just love everything, especially the Munificent, which is a personal favourite

Great video, been following the Chanel 4 a few years now and would personally like to see more battle breakdowns, appreciate u have covered most by now but maybe some ground battles? Idk just ideas

Smart fleets

I extremely enjoy the CIS as a faction and wish they would make a cone back in future films much like the first order. The CIS I don't think get as much attention, with all the different bodies that comprised the CIS government. But I think without the empire, and the first order being a shadow of the empire, the CIS systems (much like the first order) could've grown stronger in secret amongst the outer rim (or beyond) territories. Without the Geonotians and the help of the trade federation, they could enlist the help of the Hutts, Pikes, and the likes of others such as Crimson Dawn and etc...

The goals of the CiS are noble (discounting a few high ranking officials). It reminds me of the American Revolution in a way. But the republic have clones, who are cooler. So they’re my favorite.

By any chance will you be going over CIS vessel from legends like the Sabaoth Frigate, Hex deployers, Trade Federation Missil Frigate, and the Dagger Class fighter? How do you think they compare with the rest of the CIS fleet?

The lucrehulk reminds me about the profundity how both were something before that reflect civilian / peaceful stuff and refitted into a warlike things

I like the CIS they were the underdogs against the republic it would have been really interesting as to what would have happened if the CIS found a way to survive during the droid shut down or if a portion of the CIS military survives and they reestablished a base in the unknown regions or outer edges to rebuild and returned to engage against the Empire. That would likely be interesting to see a war between a revived CIS and the Empire.

Great Video!

From what I have read in these comments is that if Palpatine had not been manipulating the war, The CIS would(well there probably wouldn't have been a Clone War)have more than likely steam rolled over The Republic. A "What if Palpatine had not been manipulating both sides of The War, who would have won?" sounds like a good vid. I'm thinking someone may have done it before, but a person with your depth of Star Wars knowledge and analytical skills would probably make a great vid on the topic. Hey Eck, thank you for having a video that's more than a minute long. I've missed your knowledge and content on Star Wars, and the 1 min clips at least for me don't seem to catch my attention. I love how the Rebellion used The Recusant and modified it into "Rebel 1" though a bit vulnerable in the engine department, it's still an effective ship and a great looking one as well. I think The CIS as a whole had if The Clone Wars weren't manipulated by Palpatine, The CIS would more than likely have won. It's not that The Venator, Acclimator, and whatever other ships The Republic had at the time weren't bad, I just think The CIS had a better variety of ships that were easily modified for specific functions. Loxy Light did point out that The CIS could have used some Corvettes as well, and though The Recusant had some anti-star fighter capabilities, a dedicated anti-starfighter ship would have filled a nice role. Over all good vid Eck.

Hey you! You're my new favorite. Underrated

I fell in love with the CIS when i first saw StarWars: Clone wars. I loved the unique ship designs, the land forces(the tanks were awesome), and above all else: The Lucrehulk(My favorite ship in star wars with the Executor in 2nd place). I always wondered though, Considering the Imperial star destroyer was a sort of evolution from the venator, what if the CIS ships evolved in a similar way? Redesigning their ships and fleet composition to better suit their strategy(like how the Empire designed the Imperial-1 when they became more attracted to using mainly capitol ships)

They were allowed to arm their ships because they carried precious trade cargo, and had special permissions to have weapons, Similar to the colonist that came to America from britan. They were allowed to have arms to protect their property

Let’s goooooooo I love this channel!! And so let’s watch another one!! But question, is Eck’sClips officially affiliated with this Maine one? (Cause I don’t prefer it too much to this one)

Really interesting video. Loved it

I like the Banking Clan Frigate too

I really like how the green-lit bridges of the frigates evoke those empty, lights-on office buildings you pass on night drives. It's a subtle, if not entirely unconscious detail that conceptually fits the CIS to a T.

It's almost like taking the real world concept of Q Ships and applying it on a galactic scale. It's pretty damn scary, imagine if in the real world every cargo ship suddenly had guns and aircraft and the shipping industry held every country to ransom.

Republic: warships are illegal, and we have no standing army CIS: that's nice and all but we've been secretly building ships and droids for years Republic: lol jk we suddenly have clones and ships ready to go

Muunificent ships are the g.o.a.t. imo. It was the first ship I could really put to use in space engineers. so much fun.

the eckharts ladder clips industrial complex has begun

Interested in what happened to those intergalactic shipyards??? Basis for the new order? Did some escape the purge?

I still can’t believe that the Republic used aircraft carriers as battleships.

0:41 the Techno Union is at your disposal Count *Techno music starts blasting*

The force is strong with this one

If it was a "Fair Fight" without the machinations of Palpatine and Dooku, _the CIS would have won._ A scenerio; as Dooku flies away from the hangar where he "disarmed" Anakin in the first battle of Geonosis, Padme takes a few blaster shots at his departing ship… as did happen. _But_ she hits something vital and instead of gently docking on Corescant to meet with a awaiting Palpatine (and no one identified that ship??), Dooku's retro thrusters don't work and he plows into the hanger - killing them both. The War from that point would result in a inevitable CIS victory.

As someone that recently played a Bankingclan captain in a FFG game, I gained a new love of the Muunificent class, as that was the characters long term goal for a flagship. Unfortunately, they had a very successful, but brief career before dying. But the fondness for the ship class remains. The cr90 still remains my favorite though.

I assume a video on how the Kaminoans created the fleet for the clones is next? #askeck what warships, asides from dreadnoughts, did the Mon Cal have during the clone wars? Lore ship Versus video request: Resurgent vs. Starhawk Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version) Keldabe vs. ISD II MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser EAWX: FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator Praetor vs. Subjugator EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent Starhawk vs. Bulwark MK III

Hitler did the same thing. After World War 1 Germany could not make certain types of vehicles. They created tons of fighters and bombers claiming that the planes where mail carriers and transportation planes.

Very much love the Republic, for its military style and as a governmental structure. Though of course it was ineffective by the movie era.

Cis really has a good way to creep me up with the recusant and recusnat has a very good disgin

Those damn Genius CIS Males at it again! 😂

Its no different than the transformation of industry in the US in WW2 they even had treaties about how much they could build before the war ie. Ship tonnage.

Where is the footage from that is at 2:35? Doesn't look familiar to me and the modifications on the Lucrehulks are odd too.

AskEck: What are your top 20 legends books? I recently got a whole lot of them and was wondering if they are good or bad ones.

The CIS is the perfect representation of swarm tactics. There is a point in warfare where sheer numbers overpowers any tactics, no matter how well designed. Ironically the CIS also handeled (theoretically) intimidation far better than the Empire, just the sheer scale of thousands of war frigates and cruisers enough to put off even the most determined of Republic officers. There is a certain point in warfare where when space is choked in the opponent’s barrages, so much so that maneuvering away would mean the same amount of damage as staying put, that it results in immediate victory for the opposing.

What is this movie in 2:24, with some fighters attacking Lucrehulk, called? Is this some trailer or it is some fan-made movie?

back in my day, eckharts ladder was the premiere Star Wars lore channel. Hope to continue to see you back in that realm! ps regardless of ur opinion: new canon is the only canon. you may hate the sequel trilogy and have found 1000 things wrong with it, BUT... that is canon. Akin to a history book. Not debatable. Just accept the new canon, think of it as a new set of topics for SW videos, and get back in the game.

Always have been a CIS fan, always will be. Down with the Republic!

Fleet battle Rebel fleet at Endor vs. Cole’s fleet at Cole’s last stand

The dog named killer 8:12

The CIS is still the Good Guys in my heart.

In ROTS, we see a landing strip and air traffic control tower, why do landing strips exist if everything runs on repulsorlifts?

I Do Admit The CIS Has My Favorite Navy Of All The Major Factions In The Starwars Universe.

To draw on a WW2 comparison, the CIS had the great benefit of, just like Germany, knowing that they were going to go to war in the future so they could develop the right equipment for what they knew were coming (sith machinations not withstanding), while the Republic, much like the Allies, were late to the race of gearing up for war and it was done so in a less determined way, as they hoped to be able to prevent a conflict from breaking out in the first place.

Question Would it be possible to fit a droid of droid fighter factory inside of a lucrhulks main ring hangars Or in other words would it be possible to make a lukrehulk into a mobile factory and would it function well alongside its ability to be a mobile base?

We really need a Star Wars games where in you take control of capital ships. Like World of Warships. Imagine the turbo laser fire crossing the map!

From where was the clips with drums and the spacebattle?

Let's go CIS!

While the venator is coolest star wars ship, the banking clan frigates are a close 2nd imo. The providence is cool too, but the banking clan ships just have neat design and have become iconic.

Me on the Republic at War mod: Spawn Munilist frigate Swarm!

What the film called that had those star fighters and the drums guys playing jw

could you make a video about the *DARKSABER* in *REBELS* season 3 (starting in episode 11, than the mando arc starts with e15).

I like how Rebel One was a Kitbash of all of them.

Hey Eck! You should do a video on wether or not the imperial fleet at endor could invade earth during horizon forbidden west

The entire CIS military is genius and underrated and I honestly feel, without Sith intervention, the CIS win the war. Especially with Legends numbers. Canon numbers make no sense, they are so ridiculously small for a massive galaxy-wide conflict.

a secret extra galactic production facilities of the bankers reminded me of santa's private workforce and production sites 🙂