"The Baali do not exist now, if they ever existed." *Mary the Black has entered the chat*

Ahhh the Baali they are fun at parties. As a Black Spiral Dancer, I meet a elder Baali who mistakenly thought I was going to eat her. Spilling most of her blood she called a "greater demon", actually an incarna of Abhorra my urgewyrm. The look on her face when instead of smiting it greeted me was priceless.

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he doesn't exist."

I’m currently playing a caitiff who just discovered that his sire was one of the baali. So I’m reading up on all the lore I could find on them and I’m having a giggle of a time lol! Partly because I realized I made a textbook baali character. One who fights with his words and poisons the minds of his enemies with ideology alone. And I’m just astounded at how I stumbled into this lololol

The Clan: Bali source book is the only book that has ever induced a gag reflex in me. Whomever wrote that book was in a disturbed state of mind.

It is said that some vampires go to places such as Alaska for just this reason. The extended periods of night-time allow them to live almost normal lives.

The bloodline known as the Baali are as of our current state of knowledge in no way affiliated or blood-related to the dead clan Salubri, the dead clan Capadocian, or any factions or bloodlines within these clans. For evidence examine the disciplines they are reported to have: Presence, Obfuscation and a freak aberation of thaumaturgy, all of which they share with the Followers of Set. Furthermore, common characteristics of the bloodline are attraction to individuals lacking morality and absolute devotion to the bloodline's chief religion which they are indoctrinated into upon embrace, also strongly reminiscent of the Followers of Set. The Baali are an errant heretical branch of the Followers of Set AND NOTHING MORE. This message has been a public education service sponsored by clan Tremere. Good night.

. . . I think you're a Baali

Don't know if you're still around but I'm glad you made these videos, I find them really useful and also enjoyable!

I love how the more you dabble into the Guide to Vampires, the more you act like you're a Kindred yourself and like everything is happening as you speak BD Very intriguing.

"why don't they bring forth the great demons " NOOOO DON'T JINX IT

MrFantocan, What makes you think TGG isn't roleplaying a Baali in the video? "The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he did not exist." -Charles Baudelaire

The Baali do exist. Why don't they do what you said that can do? Why don't vampires outrun trains or juggle cars in front of mortals? Why don't Lupines lord their power over mortals, shifting to their war forms and raging at the slightest hint of rebellion? Why don't Mages snap their fingers and send the unbelieving technocrats to the farthest reaches of some forgotten realm? Why? Because, like all of the various kinds of super powerful creatures with their abilities far beyond what mortals could even imagine, the Baali still have their weaknesses, weaknesses that even mortals, as limited as they are, can still exploit. After all, there is only one God, one ultimate power that fears nothing and no one, and that God only favors those who follow his way, rejecting all other paths. None are so acutely aware of this as the Baali, for they are the most rejected, even among already unholy creatures such as the children of Caine. The Baali are so vile, so inhuman, that if they were to openly evoke their terrible power, the essence of the very earth would rise up against them as has happened before. In response to this they found a different way. A way that disregards overt dominance in favor of deception. Instead of crushing their enemies with weapons, they sneak into their social circles, they pretend to be friendly and helpful and when the time is right they whisper into the prince's ear or the seneshal's ear ,"that salubri is a liar", or how bad could daemons really be", and then leave them to stew in their own doubt. I mean, isn't it so much easier to have someone else do all the work for you. The truth is the Baali understand that, because of God's rejection, subtle manipulation is the best way, sometimes the only way. And trust me they're are none as well versed in pretending to be good then those that are truly, purely evil. We, the children of Shaitan, of Nergal and of the unnamed one, understand this better than anyone.

Im actually preparing to play one but with a twist. A good moral man embraced by a baali as a sick joke. The whole idea is a good man trying to hold onto his humanity as his corrupted blood and the demonic voices in his head try to damn his soul. I think it has potential as a very tragic hero kind of character.

I've done a few Requiem videos.. Once I've played with it some more I will no doubt do even more!

Thank you for watching!

Not gonna lie, the Baali give me the creeps for real. >.

I love these vampire clan videos! Great job!

I can say this , I have enjoyed these vidoes you have done . It gets a presepctive on each clan and what makes it the most amusing is how you do your take on them is how I normally do . Though i would enjoy seeing a Nagaraja , Samedi and Tru-jah video .

"...least of all in the echelons of the TBH." - signed, Sahar Hannibaal

Well they could hardly exist now, could they?... ;o)

Damn. You look so dapper in each of these videos. I only wish I could pull off a suit as good as you do.

I am so glad you are doing Clan Baali. I'm about to run a Baali only game (well, also that black angel losambra bloodline). Going to be super evil, even for a VtM game.

Someone should make animated history videos.

The Baali can indeed be multi-faceted.

Earthbounds doing their chaos again ^^.

Love the baali because of the Vtes card game, love playing baalis, The Unnamed, Nergal, Cybele, Huitzilopochtli. All awesome vampires in the card game

Maybe Lasombra was the antediluvian in question...

Exactly. Well put, Mr Brooks.

"Sanctified bastards that they are" makes me laugh every single time.

You're Baali. Aren't you?

Still love Baali. Got to play them twice before.

All this talk of demons has got me thinking are you ever going to review Demon: The Fallen?

They should be puppet masters behind the scenes.

Baali just use the words we know because it makes the horror more real to us.

so when shall the gentleman rise from torpor to tell us of the kindred consisting the ebony kingdom?

That damn Saulot just can't keep his fangs to himself

Cool. Started reading through the players guide and liking the Samedi.

Keep up the good work mate, you make really interesting videos and the wikis don't provide as much info.

Thank you!

In my game I made the leader of one of the citys of europe lead a smear campaign by claiming the players were demon worshipers and slowly they became so famous that the Baali formed around them and they hid amongst the other groups and rose up to overthrow the other clans in the final nights to defeat cain and save the day...

There was a Bali ad at the end of the video..

In your opinion who are the "clan" that the Baali come from?

Glad you think so!

Thanks for the review! I believe everything you said makes a lot of sense, except that WW itself said they did exist, and since they are the authors, I don't know how we can say otherwise.

Great review, really brings the world of the undead to life

is this supposed to be done like you are a member of clan baali describing the clan to others...hmm makes you think

you know your stuff!! thanks for helping me get back in to WoD : D

Let me know how it goes!

Hail Gentleman! I am a pretty new viewer of you. I Start to acompany your channel in April. A noticed that You doesn`t have a lot of videos about Vampire The Requiem, a great game which I am fan. I would really like, as the hole new genaration of RPG players, if you do a "Gentleman Guide To Th Requiem" analising not only the clans but the coteries and others things of the game. Thanks and good game!

They do! The Baali have many origins.

Baali were translated in NWoD into Belial's Brood. (Personally I like them more). Both clan/covenant are meant to be non-playable because they fly in the face of the Traditions (especially the Masquerade). And their unlife expectancy is not particularly long or healthy. Still, GTA with fangs surely doesn't sound bad to me.

This was an awesome review, I didn't know much about the Baali before, except for their role as token bad guys, but this makes them so much more interesting. Also, the badass look really works for you. Have you ever considered selling your soul to Satan? I think you could really pull off the look ;)

Everyone's entitled to their own, diabolic, opinion!

Might I ask if you are more supportive of the Camarilla, The Sabbat, The Anarchs, or some other gathering of immortals?

When you mention Nurgel, I was wondering if there also are references to Khorne, Tzeentch and Slaanesh in WoD?

Well played, ghoul of a Baali ... well played.

One day. You do keep on!

Who says this is a conclusion?

Great conclusion to the series.

The Baali where created by Saulot before he travelled east and gained his third eye....he then regretted it and when the Salubri warrior caste came to prominence they fought to destroy the Baali as Saulot saw them as a mistake he sought to destroy.

I actually find the idea that Saulot had something to do with the creation of the Baali compelling. The Gentleman's excellent video on the Salubri highlights the many rumours, mysteries and contradictions about their founder - high among which is his voluntary diablerie in order to gain control of the Tremere in order to test or wipe out his own clan. It is interesting therefore to interpret the Baali as a rhyming stanza - Saulot creating the greatest enemy of his own clan - which ends up decimating the warrior caste of Salubri. At present I can't determine his precise motive - but that's the brilliance of vampire's lore - there's so much ambiguity, uncertainty - and the antediluvians are now so divorced from what we understand as humans that we probably can't understand them than they remember what it is to be us. Regarding the Baali, this video is still brilliant. On the one hand, there's a wonderful little tongue in cheek resonance with 'the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he doesn't exist' - trying to manipulate us by scoffing at the possible motive of an antediluvian for creating the Baali, when there are a hundred different things the antediluvians do that we don't understand for example. Nonetheless, Cainites blaming the 'mythical Baali' for their own failings is hugely thematically resonant with the cursed Childer of Caine. Like Orderic Vitalis wrote of the Normans: "though they conquer others, they defeat themselves", e.g: the Cainites allow the destruction of the clan Caine saw as the hope of the others - the Salubri, the clan that tried to remove itself from politics was destroyed by it - the Cappadocians. Either way - fascinating stuff.

Thanks!

Possibly. Entirely up to you to decide.

Are they not bloodlines? Samedi of Cappadocian and the Daughters of Cacophony of Toreador or Malkavian (not sure which)

They are indeed. Or are they?

I readed a bit of mage, and seams to me that the vampire's idea that they have the power over the world , its nothing but a pale illusion, take for example the baali trying to contact their outer gods, the fallen mages nephandi (K'llasshaa), already contact them. and while the lasombra have power over darkness (void), but still trying to understand it the mages already know well about it and travel through it.

Yep, there is not one Baali left. Or is there?

Nice work :)

yeah, you're right...i guess. but still, i can't get rid of the feeling, that they are kind of...useless. I mean i don't know if there is any use of the Baali in a chronic (even as npc's).

I was under the impression the baali caught a bad case of genocide back in the early dark age which is why they are no longer around. At least the way I handled in a Dark Age story i ran, I had the vampires of Europe to call an armistice to stop the Baali from summoning forth one of the Outer Gods.

Nurgle comes from Nergal, a babylonian god of the underworld and decay. he was often used for the image of a disease bringing monster or something like that. the baali and the chaos god originate from the same source (as often)

Than you for this!!!

Is this where I get the choice of blue or red blood 😁

Man I wish someone did a video on the Panders they seem interesting!

Namtaru? Where have I heard that before? Oh, Beast, right.

I don't own it, but should I ever purchase it I'll be happy to do so.

I love how even the vampire's hate them

Good spot.

There may be more...

My favourite Clan

Not related to the clan, but I thought since you were knowledgeable in regards to V:tM you could answer this In V:tM, vampires are said to go into torpor during the daytime regardless of where they are, that is, hiding from the sun itself does nothing to quell the need for torpor. With that in mind, how do vampires deal with the changing seasons? Do some of them migrate like birds, flying between hemispheres to whichever one it's currently winter in?

One particular subgroup of Baali is called the Order of Moloch. They have made it their mission to keep the Sleepers, ancient creatures of immense power, asleep. This put them into frequent conflict with the other members of the Baali. Eventually the head of the Order, Sahar-Hanibaal, was captured by the Tal'mahe'Ra. Sahar wanted to be brought before the True Black Hand's leadership, where he begged them to investigate the dark powers in the newly risen city of Ashur. He even agreed to join the Tal'mahe'Ra and be bound by a variety of ways, alongside his entire order. Now, what would these Sleepers be? Ancient beings from before creation that are stuck somewhere as if they were, well, _earth bound_? Well, I've got a good idea. But then who created the Baali, and why? Well, who would care to stop these ancient demons from rising up and destroy the world? Who would be, well, human enough to care? Saulot. But then why create these monsters that he himself fights? Because they have taken it too far. And yet he created them because Saulot knows what the Earthbound are. How? Because Lucifer Morningstar convinced Saulot that they need to be stopped. Now, of course I have no conclusive evidence that the Adversary teamed up with Saulot to create a force to keep the Abyss closed forever through horrific means that are just like what the Earthbound would do but on a larger scale. But then... why does the Baali symbol resemble an inverted version of Lucifer's personal sigil?

As a funny aside i had one of my older characters mention there were three left. All hiding in Madagascar and so horribly crippled with PTSD that they refuse to leave. that and their compound is surrounded by Nagahs (Weresnakes).

Is this the last clan? Have you reviewed them all? I have to say this clan seems like one of the least playable of the clans. At least in my opinion. But the review is wonderfully detailed as always!

I just noticed that there is no video about Ishtari and Osebo. Nice work, BTW.

Papa Nergle is in VtM too?

So does the White Howlers, they're now called the Black Spiral Dancers.

I very much enjoy the idea that the Baali may be an invented scapegoat, used by the common clans to avoid accepting the fact that members of their own clan have, and still do stoop to such depths of horror.

So say we all!

Did he hint that there are baali in the True Black Hand at the end?

As an aside according to the revised Brujah clanbook they believe that the Baali are an assamite bloodline / faction?

They're an interesting group.

I found two Clans in a players guide that I didn't know of. Daughters of Cacophony and Samedi.

Quite. The Baali cannot afford to reveal their presence, thus ultimately neutering them.

They are indeed.

As they do.

please do a nagaraja clan video

Dear sir , were you by any chance informed of your indistinguishable similarity to a stereotypical ventrue ?

I love how you sound like Riff-raff from RHPS. ^_^