The Glaring Problem with Gaming Monitors

The Glaring Problem with Gaming Monitors - Dough Spectrum

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The glossy version of the Eve Spectrum 4K gaming monitor showed up and we had to find out not only which one we like more, but if this company has improved at all since the last product we got. Considering they changed their name to Dough before we could publish and some of the issues we had, maybe not so much...
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0:00 Intro
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@ZypherGames Жыл бұрын

Regardless of Eve changing their name to "Dough" I would like to reiterate that no one should put any money into that company. I pre-ordered one of their 1440p240hz panels like 2 years ago (got refunded thankfully!) But they still haven't started shipping any of them! They started taking pre-ordered 3.5years ago for those! Meanwhile they went "here's a glossy screen does anyone want?".

@darealcheezer9454 Жыл бұрын

I’m currently one of these “patiently waiting customers” you described.

@nobody8717 Жыл бұрын

>I preordered. Found the problem.

@puransu20 Жыл бұрын

yeah, i dont get why this company still gets coverage regardless of "muh glossy ips panels" when they have an abysmal track record. have seen so many posts online about people not receiving any products they ordered years ago.

@dvrman123 Жыл бұрын

I'm "waiting" for it and i've already paid for the monitor entirely.... LG made a panel change and it caused them to go back to the drawing board... Driving me crazy...

@puransu20 Жыл бұрын

@@Boodoo4You incredibly irresponsible of these youtubers to promote them even with the "caveats" they highlight in the videos when there's a high chance you dont even get a product when you buy from them.

@ChippyGaming Жыл бұрын

If this company could sort themselves out I’d love to buy one of these until then it’s a hard pass

@Kianyawn Жыл бұрын

Wassup Chippy

@MiIIiIIion Жыл бұрын

Just saw your post about Red getting banned and thought I was losing my mind for a second.

@b.5728 Жыл бұрын

beans

@flarfo348 Жыл бұрын

its chippin' time

@Mistner Жыл бұрын

Oh shit, Terraria dude watches Linus?

@Ganbalf Жыл бұрын

The downside to glossy screens: When the game is loading, and the screen is black.. You see your reflection, who you really are. The man who has chosen stagnation. No man deserves to see oneself in such a light.

@B1u35ky Жыл бұрын

Thank you Gandalf

@liaminwales Жыл бұрын

Also if your case is full of RGB next to the display you get a distracting RGB light show reflection.

@BeHappyTo Жыл бұрын

@@liaminwales simple fix, ditch the rgb

@fynkozari9271 Жыл бұрын

@@BeHappyTo no way in heaven I would do such a thing. I would add more rgb in every piece of hardware inside.

@godw1ll99 Жыл бұрын

when youre at the end of your "adult viewing" session and the screen goes black and you having nothing to look at but your own depraved face.

@PaulMcQueen Жыл бұрын

I ordered two of the Eve V all-in-one laptops from this company in 2018. I received one, and am still owed nearly $2,000 refund for the other after they offered orders to be cancelled due to delays. The device I received has faults that should have been replaced under warranty but they have flatly refused to honour warranty. There is no way a company that behaves like this - and continues to lie about it to this day - can achieve success. Take your dollars elsewhere. Even if you receive the product you pay for, don't expect any after-sales support if anything goes wrong.

@softxpandguest708 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't surprise me - they're scammers. They refused to refund / RMA a *mouse pad* that showed up with shipping damage.

@just4justincase Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a skill issue

@vanilh Жыл бұрын

Ordered a V too in 2018 and still don't have the laptop neither my money back. They delayed the shipping date further and further so that cashback on your card didn't work anymore. When you contacted support, they told you the money is currently frozen they could not ship all units and you'd have to wait until they sell units again. Of course, until long they changed the company that handled their payments. Today, they don't even reply anymore. Well, wrote that 800€ off long ago and this teached me a lesson I guess.

@dimepia123 Жыл бұрын

does anyone know what country they are based in?

@notlNSIGHT Жыл бұрын

@@dimepia123 Hong Kong

@marc_alm Жыл бұрын

Sigh, it never ends with this company. I tried ordering an Eve V way back in December 2017 before they showed their true colors, never did get my refund, and now they've changed their name again. Be very wary of giving Eve/Dough your money.

@zushiba Жыл бұрын

The biggest problem with gaming monitors is that all manufacturers want to charge money for their products, and I don't have any of that :/

@iulic9833 Жыл бұрын

You wouldn't pirate a gaming monitor

@retroify Жыл бұрын

Same

@adrianafamilymember6427 Жыл бұрын

Crt their free just go down to your local e waste center and collect. Or local listings.

@CodeVenomSnakes Жыл бұрын

Haha poor.

@soggycracker5934 Жыл бұрын

In the words of George Carlin... "Twenty bucks, is twenty bucks"

@Nightykk Жыл бұрын

If we had glossy gaming monitors we'd be able to see our sad depressing selves slowly dying behind the monitor every now and then, an absolutely terrifying sight. That is why they're mostly all matte.

@techboy2522 Жыл бұрын

3500+ languages but you chose to speak fax.

@michaelchoi5247 Жыл бұрын

get your fucking shit together then, maybe it's a blessing in disguise.

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

yet phones most people arguably look way more often at are glossy.

@Daniel_WR_Hart Жыл бұрын

@@TabalugaDragon They don't queue for League of Legends matches on their phones though

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_WR_Hart lol, so? people still have to read small text, watch videos and often play different games on a reflective screen, yet on phones almost nobody sees a problem. Yet a gaming monitor, that is only used indoors is for some reason a problem.

@mndlessdrwer Жыл бұрын

One thing to remember is that a lot of displays that feature capacitive touch aren't able to be made in matte finish due to that finish impeding touch sensitivity or accuracy, so laptop displays with touch will almost always be glossy. One thing that I would like to see is more companies using higher quality anti-reflection and anti-glare coatings on their glass. Leica has demonstrated in some of their smartphone collaborations that it is possible to almost completely eliminate glare and reflections from glass through the application of appropriate coatings. I'd like for companies to invest more research dollars on doing this for their displays as well. Televisions, monitors, and even laptop screens and phone screens could benefit from additional coating technologies to prevent glare, reflections, and even oils from your skin being deposited on them. If you don't think the last one is an issue, try using some tempered glass screen protectors that lack an oleophobic coating. You legitimately HAVE to use a wet lens cleaning cloth to get the oils off of the glass. But the typical oleophobic coatings that most smartphones have aren't even the final form of that technology. You can still do better, though more research and development will need to be done to ensure that such coatings can improve performance without becoming either less transparent or more delicate.

@Chipsaru Жыл бұрын

I've applied matte film on top of touch glass panel of my laptop, touch feature works great, also no visible fingerprints is a plus, obviously - no reflections, but blacks aren't that deep anymore.

@GrandHighGamer Жыл бұрын

A glossy finish probably helps sharpness at such small display scales too, since the matte finish is there to scatter light. Which is fine if you're viewing from a foot and a half away, but not so much if you've got a phone a few inches from your face.

@lars2894 Жыл бұрын

Well MacBooks are non-touch AND glossy, and their Mini-LED Anti-Reflective display is the best on the market.

@mndlessdrwer Жыл бұрын

@@lars2894 Apple generally has had the best displays on the market from a color calibration perspective. Even back in the early 2010's when I was buying my first laptop to go off to college they had the best looking displays. And now they have MiniLED tech which just makes them that much better. OLED-like performance with less risk of burn-in compared to the 1st gen OLED that many other laptop manufacturers occasionally offer in their products. At least Apple wants to give their displays a chance to live a while without burn-in, which is nice, given that replacement panels are basically unobtanium.

@HunterOni 3 ай бұрын

Samsung did it on their s24 ultra

@tdvthereviewer Жыл бұрын

It should be noted that (at least for me, by manually selecting the US region) the monitor is not ~$800, but rather an eye-watering $1099 for the glossy 4k 144Hz version. It changes the buying/not buying recommendation pretty significantly given their history.

@denisruskin348 Жыл бұрын

Yeah 1.1K USD for what, like 16 dimming zones when the Samsung G7 Neo has over 1100. Definitely not competitive at that price point.

@bok.. Жыл бұрын

Sure it didn't switch to cad from usd for some reason, that's all I can think of that would explain the price change

@DimitriMoreira Жыл бұрын

Get the Sony M9 for 899.

@samtherat6 Жыл бұрын

At $1100, does it make sense to fork over the extra $200 for the Alienware QD OLED?

@Zicrixdoesart Жыл бұрын

And for that price, there is a (ViewSonic I think) mini-led, 1152 zone 165hz monitor that will perform much better

@shanenickelson4937 Жыл бұрын

I personally prefer an eggshell finish because its scuff and stain resistance

@dragonrider4253 Жыл бұрын

Someone watched his paint rant. Thanks for the laugh.

@pinkocean310 Жыл бұрын

@brandon_nope Жыл бұрын

EGGSHELL ON THE WALLS

@Blacklands Жыл бұрын

Let's see -Paul Allan's card- Linus's paint finish. ...Eggshell with Romalian type. _heavy sweating_ Impressive. Very nice.

@MarluART Жыл бұрын

I agree, satin's the best

@michaelmcmasters4123 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad people are talking about this. I went looking for a glossy monitor last year and couldn't find anything. Blew my mind because like you said, our TVs are glossy, our laptops are glossy, our smartphones are glossy. Why wouldn't our expensive displays be too?

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

correction, only like 1-2% of all *gaming* laptops are glossy. Try finding a glossy gaming laptop on the budget to mid-range market. There are exactly zero models. Only premium, over the top gaming laptops feature glossy displays, and even most of those are OLED which have tons of disadvantages over glossy ips.

@chrisleate-bh7cx Жыл бұрын

The EVE is glossy but it also doesn't exist. Only reviewers get them, it's not a real product. People should stop reviewing them.

@DX88 Жыл бұрын

Because your face is closer to a monitor. And glossy monitors REALLY SUCK if you have open windows sideways from your monitor.

@TechMasterCarl Жыл бұрын

@@DX88 actually with a very strong light source you can't see anything on a matte screen because the reflection will cover 100% of your monitor

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

@@DX88 lol, phones have much smaller screens so no, you use them even closer to your face than a monitor.

@abhiranjansharma Жыл бұрын

Love these HDR videos.... Watching the same sets in HDR gives a whole different experience than SDR

@sagetx Жыл бұрын

Except on the video, the totally white excerpts are BLINDING. Yes the video is certainly better, but choices should be made in editing to avoid blowout.

@nathan518 Жыл бұрын

The HDR grading in this video was phenomenal. Looked much better than the first HDR video you guys did a few weeks ago. Great job LTT video editors!

@zzzpoma9961 Жыл бұрын

The SDR grading in this video was atrocious. Looked barely watchable. Great job LTT video editors!

@beefmaster7 Жыл бұрын

So LTT is finally doing some HDR videos? I didn’t notice, and probably won’t.

@bururei5844 Жыл бұрын

what, wtf

@kidShibuya Жыл бұрын

Its HDR? Sigh... I should be watching on my PC rather than this crap work mac which still doesn't know HDR exists.

@uchihasasuke7436 Жыл бұрын

HDR looks like shit on my s20 and I can't turn it off :(

@utkarshsingh545 Жыл бұрын

Love the fact that HDR monitor review is in HDR. Looks way better and I can honestly tell what they are actually seeing to some degree. Hope that this trend continues. Linus rocks

@nathanmead140 Жыл бұрын

I do not, the video did not look good on my pixel 3a at 1080p and the display kept going past the brightness level I set in the OS (I keep my display brightness as low as I can to keep it from turning dark red like some of the other pixel 3a's I was seeing on ebay for more money than the one I bought with a good screen), I had to watch it at 1080p on my alienware M17X R3 so it looked better.

@JxcksonSF Жыл бұрын

I noticed that this vídeo has a lot of noise. You can see even on the windows wallpaper, that make no sense to me.

@thecommenter578 Жыл бұрын

I hate it. HDR bumps my brightness to 100%. If I would like to see bright content I would increase brightness myself

@jerrymarshall5365 Жыл бұрын

I know HDR mastering is very difficult and they have made many videos on it and how they want to try and bring it into their workflow. With that said, I have to agree with the other replies to this comment, I don't think their completely ready yet for mass distribution of HDR content, and as far as I'm aware, you can't disable it on the KZfaq app

@caramelldansen2204 Жыл бұрын

tfw my phone has HDR but my monitor doesn't... 2poor4hdr

@Scious Жыл бұрын

Glad you finally covered it, I really hope we start seeing more options. Whites tend to look grainy as well. Glass on the front+flush bezels look/feel so much more premium as well

@WozLee Жыл бұрын

I was around for the popularisation of flat panels, and I remember for a long time it seemed impossible to find one that didn't have a glossy screen. The market went the way it did for a reason, glossy screens suck. Yes it might seem brighter and more vivid when you're just looking at the image, however when you have to sit down in front of these things for hours upon hours every single day that glossy screen starts to become a real pain. Eye strain from your eyes focusing on reflections on the screen, dust and fingerprints and not mention the worst thing of all... blinding glare. Someone opens the window in your office on a sunny day? You can't see the screen, at all, and that holds true with everything else. That cool RGB feature on your headset? See how neat it is when it's constantly on your screen. I will take a slightly sub par image over endless irritation.

@gimmy2294 Жыл бұрын

Glossy is not for office use, it's for man cave at home

@Olivia-W Жыл бұрын

Yep. Matte > Glossy for longer use.

@daelra Жыл бұрын

I personally hate glossy screens as I can never tune out refections if I see them

@MrMartinSchou Жыл бұрын

My guess is that in a normal office setting, having a matte display is preferable because the reflective glare from overhead lamps is less annoying. Especially if they're the florescent type. And if the majority of production of displays goes into office monitors, then there's a saving to be had by reusing those production facilities for as many monitors as possible.

@BlackTearsYT Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm a bit skeptical even in gaming settings for certain people. I don't want to get distracted if I'm playing a competitive game by a bit of light from my RGB keyboard reflecting off the screen or any of the decor in my office that emits light. If I lost a target in the reflection even once, I'd be super annoyed. Obviously everyone's use case is different but I think the use case of matte displays even for gaming is pretty clear.

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

I don't know how you sit or position your monitor, but with general optics theory you shouldn't be able to see the over head lamps on your screen. In other words reflections of ones self or other lit up objects should be a bigger problem.

@nerdstrangler4804 Жыл бұрын

I think it is just more a case of nobody really cares about color/contrast/sharpness etc. when staring at spreadsheets. So might as well use matte displays. But I think you right in that displays are primary designed for office work and it is probably just a cost saving measure to avoid having to redesign the display and retool the factory.

@liuzhaoqi2003 Жыл бұрын

@@nerdstrangler4804 That tiny bit of sharpeners or contrast doesn't matter at all when you have a giant light reflection on the screen, and some time a ghost stare you right in the eyes.

@nerdstrangler4804 Жыл бұрын

@@liuzhaoqi2003 Probably not. Although I am not sure why people would have giant reflections on the screen. That is going to look terrible regardless of how much the reflections are diffused. Most people try to position their lights/screen in a manner that avoids giant reflections.

@dumboy886 Жыл бұрын

I'm into there more being consumer choice, but I'm a mate person. Seeing my face back when interfacing with any dark mode ui is just not acceptable. I think TVs are okay because you're much further away, and you're not hyperfocused on some pixels. There's also the issue of focusing distance. If I look towards a glossy reflection, they'll be out of focus, my eyes adjust, and the screen is now out of focus. Mate screens aren't out of focus, they're just diffused, much easier for me to tune out.

@monkeywithocd Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Having a sharp reflection covering your display is far more distracting than a flat shape. Glossy *does* look sharper, but unless you're in a perfectly light controlled room I'm going to prefer matte any day.

@dumboy886 Жыл бұрын

@@dontreadmyprofilepicture5552 How is this guy not just plain banned yet, everywhere. KZfaq, sort your shit out

@killertruth186 Жыл бұрын

I am for displays that looks good regardless of lighting level. But I preferred ones that doesn't reflect light.

@LetrixAR Жыл бұрын

@@dumboy886 they didn't break any TOS, its just annoying spam

@orion10x10 Жыл бұрын

@@monkeywithocd I feel like a lot of gamers have a perfectly light controlled room for their rigs. I know I do and I hate the matte finish, my MacBooks screen is great why does my desktops suck?

@john_hunter_ Жыл бұрын

There is that moth-eye glass that removes a lot of glare. I'm surprised that monitors haven't started using that. The tech has been around for a while. I think the expensive model of the steam deck uses it but they called it etched glass. I think Linus even covered it in some old CES videos. Or even basic anti-glare like CRT monitors have would be great.

@thisnthat3530 Жыл бұрын

Having used both glossy and matte displays over the years, I will never buy a gloss display ever. The lower contrast of a matte display is a small price to pay to be free from hard reflections.

@sandwiched Жыл бұрын

I'm 100% Team Matte, sorry Linus. I had a 43" 4k HDR1000 glossy monitor (Philips Momentum) for work (web development) and for gaming. The HDR was pretty nice, but the glossy finish made it a nightmare to use with any light source; I had to hang dark curtains over the window behind me. After 1.5 years, that monitor bit the dust. It was still under warranty, but that model of monitor was no longer available, so they replaced it with a close match: a matte, HDR400 43" 4K. Despite the loss in HDR intensity, I would never, EVER go back to a glossy monitor; the matte finish was a godsend, both for work and for play. Keep in mind, unlike most people, you are comparing two otherwise-identical monitors side by side, and seeing the more vibrant colors of the glossy monitor as preferable. But for most people, they won't have something to compare the increased vibrancy of a glossy monitor with. All they'll see is annoying reflections, or-if they were wise-the lack thereof. ;) We'll just have to agree to disagree. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@lovellcarr9031 Жыл бұрын

I agree. Also, on my curved monitor with a glossy screen, when there are dark scenes in games the reflection makes me very sick due to the curve

@berni8k Жыл бұрын

Yep matte is superior to my eyes too. Used laptops with glossy screens and they sucked.

@Di3Leberwurst Жыл бұрын

Yep shiny monitors are nice in a completly dark room or if you want to waste energy and burn your eyes out by turning the brightness up until nothing reflects anymore, which also doesn't work if you want to show anything dark.

@256ElNino Жыл бұрын

I agree. My last Laptop had a glare type display. As soon as there was sunlight (working outside or even behind a Window), is was basicly unusable. Never again.

@colewelden Жыл бұрын

Going from HDR1000 to HDR400 is where I feel like you got screwed. I also prefer matte to be fair. But an HDR1000 monitor costs a lot more than an HDR400 does. I desperately tried to find even an HDR600 for under 500 and just could not. I ended up with an Acer Predator X34GS with HDR400 and the lack of brightness makes me prefer to keep it in the DCI color space rather than HDR. That being said, Windows HDR has always been pretty subpar. As far as matte goes, you just don't want glare on a monitor you'll be in front of every day. Matte is definitely the way to go.

@BobSentell Жыл бұрын

On the industry trend to not include display cables: start using the cheapest thing you can find on Amazon or Walmart and basing your review on that. Most consumers are going to do just that when they don't have a cable included so that activity should just be how they are reviewed. After a couple embarrassing reviews, maybe the practice will stop.

@SivaKanthSharma Жыл бұрын

That’s actually a good idea

@retrosean199 Жыл бұрын

In my sample size of one, the last 3 monitors I bought included cables. So I don't know how much of a trend it really is!

@Ocastia Жыл бұрын

Is not including a display cable with your monitor even a bad thing? Because I do not use the included cable, and if I bought a new one I would continue to use the ones that I already have. Unlike not including a charger with a phone it doesn't seem like it is to bad.

@TOMiX1024 Жыл бұрын

But should they include hdmi or dp? in a perfect world they would include a reversable hdmi to dp cable (dell does or did include a mini-dp to dp cable)

@pranavkolluri Жыл бұрын

@@Ocastia eh unless you have a massive collection of cables that logic doesn't really work... most people don't have high-end hdmi cables for examples, or at least ones that actually work

@nadeemkhatak Жыл бұрын

I remember in 2012 when I got my 21.5" 1080p monitor from dell with a glossy finish, it was so CRISP AND VIBRANT. Sure you have to see yourself every now and then at a completely dark loading screen but it was worth the tradeoff in my opinion.

@Collin_J Жыл бұрын

Haha same experience. Even with a max of 72 hz after creating custom image profiles it looked so smooth and crisp

@VeronicaJae Жыл бұрын

One of the noticeable differences upgrading from my old display to my LG C1 is the glossy finish. It's genuinely so nice.

@emmamitchell1582 Жыл бұрын

The difference to TVs ist that I do not just consume content or game on my PC. The monitor also needs to work for spreadsheets, browsing the internet and everything else. With a glossy panel you would have to constantly readjust how you are looking at the display to work around the reflections. For multipurpose, I think matte is better

@JOHNY0 Жыл бұрын

I disagree. I only use glossy monitors for design work, internet consumption, etc and I never had an issue with having to readjust how I look at the display. I absolutely hate matte monitors, the reflections are much more distracting and everything looks faded and slightly bluried.

@siruspan Жыл бұрын

If someone buys gaming monitor to game on it then what :) I've bought 42 inch lg c2 oled tv and I much prefer glossy finish when gaming. It's not great as a productivity monitor for number of reason but as a gaming monitor it's stunning.

@hankhillsdisappointedsigh Жыл бұрын

We need more etched glass displays like the 512 Steam Deck. That is the perfect midpoint between glossy and matte. The light diffusion isn't nearly as aggressive as matte coatings but it blurs the reflections enough so that they aren't distracting are hard on the eyes.

@jaju123456 Жыл бұрын

Probably mega expensive to do that on a 27” display or so

@a-bomb3924 Жыл бұрын

just get the pro display xdr

@Skylancer727 Жыл бұрын

@@jaju123456 hard to say as Apple is the only company doing it and they charge $1,000. But they also charge $1,000 for a stand so...

@marcm. Жыл бұрын

Absolutely I would be on board with this. But glossy... I hate that I can't find a matte quality TV that isn't glossy... Regardless of how bright it is I'm forced to turn the room it's in into a cave. But etch, that would be a very good option

@HalfDayHero Жыл бұрын

I like how calmly you spoke in this one.

@ZacharyBerger Жыл бұрын

Thanks for uploading this in HDR! It looks great

@b1oo71 Жыл бұрын

I loved the part where Linus said: “It’s Tech Tip Time.”

@lam6786 Жыл бұрын

and then he tech tipped all over those guys

@borowiczko Жыл бұрын

@@dontreadmyprofilepicture5552 get a life

@janemba42 Жыл бұрын

I always come for the tip.

@Cowclops Жыл бұрын

Does everybody know what time it is? TECH TIP TIME! "Hey Jake, I supercharged our servers! ARRR ARR ARR! MORE POWER!"

@b1oo71 Жыл бұрын

Tip: tech

@Matoro2002 Жыл бұрын

additional consideration: glossy panels have a tendency to reflect the user's face in dark scenes, which can be pretty annoying (I have this problem playing on my nintendo switch undocked a lot)

@pred4507 Жыл бұрын

I think its INCREDIBLE immersion breaking when i see my ugly face every time the screen turns black. Glossy is a no no.

@Ant_105 Жыл бұрын

He mentioned it in the video

@One21P Жыл бұрын

Also a scary experience in Resident Evil 2

@zacharypappalardo3789 Жыл бұрын

Unexpected jump scares

@byavarsi Жыл бұрын

They can still sell them if you aren't white

@LuGer212 Жыл бұрын

I'm happy to know the Editor is always there and watching over us

@delanerd Жыл бұрын

The HDR on this is fantastic, huge props

@yeahwellfu Жыл бұрын

I didn't expect this take from Linus about matte monitors. I'm on the opposite side, I don't understand why some/most laptops have glossy screens. I'm mainly a desktop user with 3-monitor setup with a Dell 2.5K 165Hz as my main. My ThinkPad also has a matte screen which might be one of the reasons I got it. If you sit on your computer 10+ hours a day, I think matte is a one-way street

@TKIvanov Жыл бұрын

My previous monitor was glossy (my current one would be as well, but sadly 99.99% of gaming monitors are matte..), used it for a bit over 6 years, never had problems, the fact it had a gloss finish was one of the things I really liked about it. I dont do the hours you mentioned but still.

@falsemcnuggethope Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the comment about most people using their monitors only for gaming once they get home felt weird after spending the whole day watching my gaming monitor. Matte displays all the way.

@sullivandamn Жыл бұрын

I have a Samsung G9, and I think if there was any light source behind me with a glossy screen, I think I wouldnt have eyes anymore!

@arcticowl1091 Жыл бұрын

Well for touch displays it’s kind of necessary. If your phone screen had a matte coating, it would feel like trying to swipe sandpaper.

@Spetz83 Жыл бұрын

@@arcticowl1091 the G9 is a gaming monitor that the OP is referencing, not a phone.

@ConsiderateSloth Жыл бұрын

@@Spetz83 re-read his comment.

@arcticowl1091 Жыл бұрын

@@Spetz83 i read samsung and my brain just went "durr, smartphone", my bad.

@Alonsoman4000 Жыл бұрын

I love when you upload in 4K HDR. It looks so damn beautiful

@krysin Жыл бұрын

Ive had past glossy gaming displays and was much happier swapping to a matte display. Yes the glossy looked a tiny bit better to the eye, but i do game during the day, and i dont like gaming in a basement or in a room with no natural light so the matte is just superior imo.

@mrducky179 Жыл бұрын

literally this, not all people live in rgb lit basements

@Grishanof Жыл бұрын

Even if I would sit in the basement, seeing my face reflecting in the black parts of the image is enough to break immersion

@abadenoughdude300 Жыл бұрын

@@Grishanof Yeah, people underestimate how distracting lights/reflections/movement in peripheral vision is, and a glossy monitor is pretty much in your face, reflecting everything behind you. Unless people drown that out by setting it to full brightness but then they are probably already blind anyway.

@Itz_Worm Жыл бұрын

Same here. It's not like matte displays are completely trash. And as someone with ADHD, I'm surprised the distraction of reflections isn't something that affects Linus more. Personally I'll trade the slightly worse image for way better reflection handling everyday. And it seems that either most people agree or manufactures are shoving matte displays down our throats. It seems to me that most people don't have as complete control over the light and movement in their environments as Linus is assuming. Anyone with ceiling fan they need to stay comfortable with a light attached to it probably agrees with this.

@MrSuperchesser Жыл бұрын

Feels like the best HDR implementation so far from LTT on my Samsung Q80T tv. More info: I'm in Filmmaker mode with Warm 1 color tone.

@thebyzocker Жыл бұрын

It's a bit dull for me but i also left the standard setting for vibrancy mode on my phone so I'd probably vouch for it being good

@jimstonb3294 Жыл бұрын

Love that you guys keep coming with the HDR videos! And compared to the first ones this is way better, no jarring white boxes anymore 🙂

@fairyball3929 Жыл бұрын

I don't remember if LMG's older HDR videos had any white boxes in them or not? 🤔

@danielsuarez7474 Жыл бұрын

This is one of your best videos in a while. To the point, excelent flow, a lot of helping visuals. I hope you return to this format instead watching the hosts conversation. Good one.

@ViRiXDreamcore Жыл бұрын

Loved that this was in Hdr.

@sullychow4123 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the honesty/empathy Linus showed with his review unit. There's most definitely backers who are still waiting for units they've been promised. I don't back things anymore as a result, it's an odd and troubling trend a lot of companies (and scams) do

@SaturnTubes Жыл бұрын

Honestly and empathy he did not show when getting graphics cards and processors are a fine when more people couldn’t get them. He’s kicking a horse while it’s down here but will never bite hands that feed him

@Zarrex Жыл бұрын

Yeah I really can't be on the same page here. My gf had a glossy monitor for years and between having a skylight in the room as well as windows, it's borderline unusable. I would gladly take the matte screen that makes the monitor usable in a normal house that isn't a gamer cave over something that looks MAYBE a tiny bit better

@MatthewWilde Жыл бұрын

Yep, I'm very light sensitive and my wife's Apple Cinema Display is appalling to use in the real world, simply because of the glossy finish.

@ZE0XE0 Жыл бұрын

i concur. I have west facing windows and the only place for my desk is on the east side of the wall. In the afternoon i always have glare problems. If it was glossy instead of matte, id be practically blinded. Sometimes I even have to put cardboard over the window to block the light.

@mal2ksc Жыл бұрын

Light coming from directly overhead is normal in an office building too. There may be a valid reason why so many displays are matte. I have a glossy 4k display and I don't regret it, because it is so gorgeously sharp and I'm sitting less than two feet away. But if I had bought a somewhat bigger display and mounted it further away, I'd want matte because I would no longer be able to spot the decrease in sharpness.

@DedmenMiller Жыл бұрын

Also have a skylight, my matte monitor really becomes a problem in the summer. But the real solution there is just a extra bright display

@McCrackbaby Жыл бұрын

Happy to see the return of the glossy finish. Age is a girl back in 2006 I had a flat panel monitor with a glossy finish from Samsung I loved

@GoldenArrow13 Жыл бұрын

Please keep the HDR videos coming. I absolutely love it

@Deniz3n Жыл бұрын

I'd never want to get a glossy monitor, I've always found them incredibly distracting and in some cases completely unusable at the wrong angles or room brightness. If I could get a matte display for my laptop, I'd go for that, too.

@buzzlightyearoh Жыл бұрын

I mean there are many laptops with matte displays

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

You can also always get a matte screenprotector for your laptop, just need to find the right size. Works well on tablets, and gives them paper like writing feel. Comes with the downside that your stylus tip wears out faster.

@marcm. Жыл бұрын

I finally found one on an Asus gaming laptop. But man it took two decades... I'm fully with you on this one

@marcm. Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh The screen protectors are always significantly worse than a factory matte

@shvrdavid Жыл бұрын

So.... replace your notebooks display with a matte one... Done....

@802Garage Жыл бұрын

This is all well and good... Except as soon as you have a bad reflection you literally cannot read or see anything on the screen. I have no issues with matte screens in my living room. With gloss screens, many times throughout the day I literally cannot see the screen. I'm not sure how your testing doesn't reflect this. No pun intended.

@liuzhaoqi2003 Жыл бұрын

They have stationary lights, and forgot that in real life light moves. Not that many people live in a windowless studio or basement.

@SaturnTubes Жыл бұрын

@@liuzhaoqi2003 I literally keep my computer in a pop up tent surrounded by black acoustic blankets for sound proofing, I’m the extreme minority and one of the only people who could benefit from this…. And even I don’t want it, because even in those conditions, my glossy phone glares too much

@ziggybadans Жыл бұрын

Exactly! I'd rather have my screen washed out but still viewable on every part then having a little bit of the screen perfectly viewable and the rest completely blown out with sharp reflections.

@nehylen5738 Жыл бұрын

I got myself a glossy monitor back in 2012, changed only 2 years ago back to a matte one. And clearly, for that very reason, I much prefer matte.

@AshLordCurry Жыл бұрын

If you're gaming, then you probably are dedicated enough to darken the room

@robertwilcox9566 Жыл бұрын

I just needed to comment that your HDR is ON POINT! I just came from a non HDR video and damn, your video is light years better looking.

@RitzyBusiness Жыл бұрын

I've used a glossy monitor before and after a while the glare gets really annoying even if you're gaming in pitch black darkness because the light from the monitor reflects off of you back onto the monitor. It also causes eye strain. In bright scenes it's brilliant, you see no reflection but you still get more strain ime. This happens when you're sitting close to he screen, on the other hand sitting st tv distance from my 60in screen I don't see the same reflections, it's a lot less noticeable if they are there. And my eyes don't feel strained. So while yes, a glossy screen looks better, it makes for a bad experience when sitting 2ft - 3ft away from it. A glossy screen is non negotiable for OLED and HDR though. You would lose so much contrast on a matte screen, only because of the light dispersal would interfere with our natural biology haha. Kinda like seeing a black ips screen with and without a proper white bias light.

@tatsamraipure2712 Жыл бұрын

yeah it is totally true, matte for LCD and phones and TVs should have glossy screens only although I have seen many people buying matte screen guards for there phones 😂

@Hardolaf Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I grew up with glossy CRTs and they were borderline unusable in bring light. And my phone is unusable in sunlight because the brightness, even at 100%, isn't enough to overcome the glare from the sun. The entire argument from LTT is crap. I intentionally buy matte finish displays because they work better in all conditions. Right now, I have direct sunlight on one of my displays and it's perfectly readable. If I put my phone in front of the direct sunlight, I can't read the damn thing.

@RitzyBusiness Жыл бұрын

@@Hardolaf any phone screen in direct sunlight outdoors would be pretty impossible to read 😆 except for e readers, I don't know what kind of black magic they use.

@Axeiaa Жыл бұрын

@@RitzyBusiness eReaders don't have a light behind them, they move the e-ink. That's why like traditional paper they're perfectly readable even in the brightest sunlight.

@thenosehero Жыл бұрын

I remember a time when most monitors were glossy, and I don't miss that time. It's true, under optimal studio/store lighting they do look better, but when you take them home they consistently look like crap. The monitor I'm writing this one would be reflecting my room light directly in the top center of it, and I cant easily move the light, If I had to use a glossy monitor, I would have no choice but to NOT have my desk in the center of the room. My anti glare monitor, does NOT reflect it.

@dnoodspodu1159 Жыл бұрын

I used to have really matted monitor, but newer one "matted" was so glossy that I had to change my black backgrounds in file manager to lighter one because I could see myself in it Glossy screen? No, thank you

@ForboJack Жыл бұрын

I had laptops with glossy and with matte displays and I would never buy a laptop with glossy finish ever again. At least for laptops a matte display is an absolute must for me.

@lucasrem Жыл бұрын

You just need enough HDR levels, so the reflection is gone!

@santiagocastro6701 Жыл бұрын

It is tough, but depends a lot from person to person, I prefer to loose a bit of sharp image than having a sunlight bouncing in my screen and disturbing my things, I had a glossy in crt and I prefer 100% a matte display

@manaueruel5468 Жыл бұрын

yeah me too. i stare at my desktop screen for multiple hours straight. not so with my phone, watch, ...

@EikottXD Жыл бұрын

Dim the lights...

@pelmeshker Жыл бұрын

@@EikottXD dim the sun in the office...

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

funny that you say that, matte is just as unusable in a sunny room.

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

@@pelmeshker the topic is gaming monitors, not office monitors. Nobody is saying we need glossy finish on those.

@ensardafae Жыл бұрын

As someone is photosensitive i'm glad that most desktop screens are matte finish as gives me the option to get the best. I'm not saying gloss doesn't have its place and yes it looks better but can't be a replacement, which I'm afraid many will do if they start shipping with a gloss finish

@Dedg Жыл бұрын

Same, any kind of reflection sucks so much.

@TabalugaDragon Жыл бұрын

nobody is taking matte screens from you damn it. But would it hurt you personally if we actually had glossy options on the market? If *other* people got what they wanted? Seems like it would huh?

@hassaniqbal4681 Жыл бұрын

I just can't stand reflections on a display. It is highly distracting and my focus keeps shifting. Anti-glare screens any day of the week. They are not as vibrant as glossy screens but at least I can actually see what I am looking at without distractions.

@melancholyentertainment 9 ай бұрын

Neither are going to look good with light hitting them. Matte finishes will just disperse the light. If anything it covers more of the image and will wash it out even more that the anti-glare coating already is, as shown in the video. So it’s all upsides with glossy. And even if that wasn’t the case with glossy you can just, you know, control your lighting conditions. With the coating your stuck with it no matter what your conditions.

@kstarler Жыл бұрын

As someone that daily drove a glossy ACER gaming display for 9 years, I don't miss the gloss. Maybe anti-glare technology has advanced since then (the one I had I bought in 2006), but I greatly prefer the matte finish, even if I have to sacrifice some image quality.

@Rafaelinux Жыл бұрын

Guys, your best looking video in ages! This HDR toning was spot-on! Finally Linus' skin stopped being greenish! The moment you got these blackmagic cameras all these years ago, the grading on your channel became awful.. Now we're back in business!!

@witcdesigns1693 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! I have been using an old 24" glossy Dell for years because the direction light is coming from in my office makes it harder to see on matte than gloss when working

@LifeWulf Жыл бұрын

“Every other display in your life does this.” *glances at my TV that has a matte display* Love the HDR content btw. Looks great on my phone.

@duven60 Жыл бұрын

I would use a phone with a matte display if they made smartphones that had them, i the meantime matte TVs all the way; if there is enough darkness for a glossy display why aren't you using a projector.

@fynkozari9271 Жыл бұрын

Can you describe the HDR. I dont think its big improvement.

@LifeWulf Жыл бұрын

@@fynkozari9271 The colour is more vibrant, and the dynamic range - difference between the darker areas and the brighter areas - is more noticeable, instead of everything being the same brightness level. I don’t really know how else to explain it, other than the video “pops” and the rest of the KZfaq interface by comparison looks dull when the video is playing.

Жыл бұрын

Maybe because other displays are smaller and mobile, so you can for example turn away from the sun with your phone.

@rafalxyz Жыл бұрын

@@fynkozari9271 it looks more realistic. Light looks like light not just another thing colored white

@spammus1 Жыл бұрын

Leaving the bad company matter behind, I just can't stand reflections. I find them really annoying and distracting, maybe I'll be fine with a glossy second or productivity monitor, but my main HAS to be matte. That said, it definitely WON'T be from this company

@joshuaverde5362 Жыл бұрын

Yes. Thanks. That's it. It's so much easier to tune out random distracting reflections with a matte ime. Took me several weeks to adjust to glossy panels.

@ModernTenshi04 Жыл бұрын

I bought the matte version back in April to use with the M1 Pro Mac my new job sent me. Coming from LG's 5K display I wanted something that could get me power, video, and data via USB-C, but I also share space with my personal desktop so this also lets me dabble in 4K gaming. The firmware updates have definitely helped improve things since initially buying it, but regarding the video settings for macOS, if connected via USB-C (I'm using a short TB4 cable to be specific): Go into the OSD > USB-C bandwidth priority > and select High Refresh Rate. The downside is you won't get full USB-C speeds for connected devices, but under display settings the Refresh Rate drop down should now let you select "Variable (48-144 Hertz)", or you can select a lock refresh rate. Since I only have my keyboard, mouse, and a Logitech webcam connected via the USB hub on the monitor the loss of higher speed data transfers wasn't a concern for me, but having a 144Hz refresh rate makes moving windows and moving between virtual desktops buttery smooth. Also, what I think this video doesn't draw enough attention to if you're considering this as a Mac user: you MUST have access to a Windows machine to update the firmware. There's no way to do it via macOS or Linux and the company has said the outfit that makes the firmware have said they have no plans to offer that option. I think going forward providing a way to do it with a USB drive connected to the display would be the most ideal.

@watchm4ker Жыл бұрын

Everything old is new again. I remember, over a decade ago, how often reviewers would decry monitors for using cheap glossy finishes that made for great showroom displays with the brightness turned up to eye-searing levels, instead of a professional, high-quality matte finish that made the monitors actually usable day-to-day. Glare and reflection were the price you paid for skimping out on a proper screen coating.

@turboxide Жыл бұрын

yeah it’s funny how reviewers are saying this all of a sudden

@RoschuhLP Жыл бұрын

The problem for me where never the big, but the small lights. If you just have one red light somewhere in the background. The matt finish will make it either invisible or very light red to see on the monitor. The glossy one will make you see it (at least in darker areas) much better This is my experiencw. Wince i have no such backlight anymore, it should be better.

@haniffaris8917 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the test was ridiculous, who the heck game with a huge studio lights glaring at their screen. I also can remember how my reflection stared at me every time a dark scene comes up when I was using glossy monitor.

@RoschuhLP Жыл бұрын

@@haniffaris8917 the best part "you usually make the room darkm that is when you game. This is when reflectioks of the glasses or other small lights fuck up the most xD I would have loved to see ghe reason who liked and disliked it for what reasons.

@ethanwenz392 Жыл бұрын

Love the HDR content. I know the workflow has been a pain in the past. Hopefully things will get easier; I would love to always watch in HDR

@abyssmstr2361 Жыл бұрын

well I still love monitors without reflections because its super bright here and specially during gaming I want to see any object or particles in shadowed places without increasing the brightness. Also I have an experience with glossy monitors that I got best experience in gaming during nighttime but not in daytime. 😀

@vegettosonlab Жыл бұрын

I'll continue using matte monitors until they randomly decide to stop making them. I've tried a glossy monitor during the day, night, and with zero lights on, and I hated it no matter the situation I'm in. They just don't work for my room or for me in general. I sent back the glossy TV the next day after using it.

@falsemcnuggethope Жыл бұрын

I'll continue using matte monitors even after they stop making them.

@osaobeid7828 Жыл бұрын

Wow you are so cool 🤪

@almaspuding Жыл бұрын

I find matte screen are far easier on the eyes and I stare at my computer screen (matte) far more than at my tv/phone (glossy). I've used glossy displays for desktop/laptop and my take away is: matte `till death.

@Seal_pup Жыл бұрын

Team glossy. Always have been. Matte screens hurt my eyes because I just feel like that sun blur effect is so much worse that any gloss screen. I literally cannot see properly with a matte screen it drives me crazy. I have to block out every light source to feel like I can have a good viewing experience. Screw matte crap it looks cheap, looks ugly, less quality blacks, adds a blur and makes light a massive problem. Was happy to see this video pop up in my subscription feed, finally someone is making some damn sense around here. Hopefully many more glossy (aka normal imo) monitors will become available. I would prefer for everyone to have their own preferred option on any screen. That would be great.

@kepstin Жыл бұрын

Portable displays like on phones, tablets, watches, etc. are easy to move around until you can find an angle that doesn't have glare problems. PC monitors? Yeah, I'm sticking with my matte screens. Honestly even on laptops I still prefer matte - you can't always find the perfect angle with them.

@Chipsaru Жыл бұрын

there is a reason why they sell matte screen protectors for phones

@Quettesh Жыл бұрын

I don't give a toss if the colours are not that accurate when it looks like a mirror with light behind me. Main reason why we don't see mate finish on phones and other devices is because they are touch screens and mate finish is harder to clean and scratches are more noticeable.

@allanshpeley4284 Жыл бұрын

Right. And size is also a factor. When I start seeing reflections on my phone I can just change the angle to minimize them. I'd still prefer my phone, like my pc screen, with an anti-glare coating though.

@unclerubo Жыл бұрын

I hate glossy displays. I ended up painting the back wall of my living room dark gray because of them and unless you absolutely black out the room you can see every single thing on the table or the couch when a slightly dark scene comes on.

@ianfitchett2768 Жыл бұрын

I got a aw3423dwf which has a coating that's in between glossy and matte. I've heard mixed things about it from reviewers, monitor's unboxed said it was the worst coating ever: "combining the worst aspects of both". But in my experience, it's such an improvement. The screen just looks so much cleaner... It's like I cleaned years worth of dust off the screen. The matte coating literally looks like built-in dust... And I'm coming from an asus rog PG27UQ which is a really high quality display with a higher pixel density and luminance. I can imagine wanting a matte coating on a laptop, I remember being a college student and needing to use my laptop in all kinds of bright, busy, public places, sometimes in direct sunlight. I am glad I had a matte finish for that. But that's productivity, not gaming, and it's mobile. For a stationary, media-focused display, glossy feels like the obvious choice. Even in my lit room with windows, the glossier coating is better. Light is only an issue if the light is literally directly behind the screen

@emu071981 Жыл бұрын

I recently bought a Aorus FO48U which has a really glossy screen and I love how vivid everything is on it (probably helps that it is a OLED as well).

@NoLongo Жыл бұрын

The problem is that matte is pretty universal but glossy could be anyones guess how good the anti-glare coating is, or if it has one at all.

@nerdstrangler4804 Жыл бұрын

Yea this is also true, not all glossy screens are created equal. At least with matte you know what you are getting. Especially in the monitor industry where R&D budgets are probably a small fraction of what they are in the phone/TV industry, the quality of the anti-glare coating is probably a bit more of a gamble.

@GENKI_INU Жыл бұрын

I thought the point of a glossy finish is there's no anti-glare coating?

@nerdstrangler4804 Жыл бұрын

@@GENKI_INU The point of a glossy screen is that they use glass instead of plastic for the screen. But usually the glass still has some sort of treatment applied to reduce reflections. Not entirely sure how they work, probably some hardcore physics going on. But they can drastically cut down on reflections vs just bare glass.

@GENKI_INU Жыл бұрын

@@nerdstrangler4804 That's the thing. The only real non-exotic option for anti-glare treatment on screens is literally roughening of the surface itself (matte). I'm inclined to believe most glass screens (especially touchscreens), aren't treated with anti-glare or they would rub off in case of touchscreens, or you could easily tell it was treated: Think of prescription eye-glasses where the reflection color turns a reddish-purple green tint. I've never seen a glass screen that has been coated this way, or has these properties. I can't even be sure there's a good way to anti-glare a glass screen that doesn't defeat the purpose of the clarity, or cause the manufacturer to choose a matte finish anyway, unless it's a touchscreen where a smooth glass finish is basically the only option.

@nerdstrangler4804 Жыл бұрын

@@GENKI_INU You may be right about touch screens, I don't know. But RTINGS has a specific category where they measure reflections. For instance, here is what they said about the LG C2: "The LG C2 has superb reflection handling. The glossy finish significantly reduces the intensity of direct reflections, so glare isn't an issue. The anti-reflective coating on the screen adds a purple tint to it, but this doesn't impact image quality." Or here is what they said about the Samsung QN90B QLED: "The Samsung QN90B has superb reflection handling. The glossy coating significantly reduces the intensity of direct reflections, so glare isn't as distracting. Sadly, like many glossy coatings, bright lights cause a rainbow smear across the screen, which can be distracting even if the lights aren't directly opposite the TV, including overhead lights. Note that the 43 inch and 50 inch models have a different anti-reflective coating and have worse reflection handling." So as you can see anti-reflection coatings are quite common these days and can vary quite a bit, even within the same product line. For instance, in the case of the 43 and 50 inch QN90B it sounds like they had to go with a cheaper option in order to hit the lower price point. You can even see at 10:50 in this video when he puts the macbook air down next to the monitor, just how differently the reflection of his arm looks between the two.

@DraconicBovine Жыл бұрын

Gaming in the dark ended up giving me eye migraines. Can't really recommend that experience. Would happily never see a glossy display on any device, so it can be used with some light in the room

@BriBCG Жыл бұрын

Yeah, common solutions to the glare effect of glossy screens seem to be 'turn off the lights' or 'turn up the brightness' both just burn out my eyes in no time. No thanks.

@Michael_11 Жыл бұрын

This ticks so many boxes but mostly love that its a nice simple clean design with slim bezels and most importantly no silly angular plastic add on nonsense that almost all gaming stuff seems to insist on having, just a shame i'd never risk giving them my money after all the issues, just have to hope it influences the others brands.

@hooby_9066 Жыл бұрын

I remember (some) glossy screens being available at some point when LCD monitors were still young. Back then - due to panel brightness being lower, everyone I knew absolutely preferred matte though - to the point of outright shunning glossy displays. I don't think they sold well - and that might be the reason, why manufacturers stopped making them.

@JH-pe3ro Жыл бұрын

I came to make this comment. I remember glossy being extremely bad because all the monitors were dark. That was the whole reason to have the computer cave, CRTs couldn't handle any daylight. Sometime after LED backlighting came in, that changed and I'm willing to accept the Linus opinion that it might be OK, if you expect the display to overpower the light. I'm pretty happy with matte right now, though, and old enough to say "this isn't broke, I don't need to fix it."

@anshumansingh5802 Жыл бұрын

Have been watching your videos alot lately and totally love them

@milkyy4168 Жыл бұрын

I’ve never had the time to reflect on how a screen’s glare could do so much. Cool video!

@uknowwhoiam1389 Жыл бұрын

no you didn't just do that...

@GarethPW Жыл бұрын

@@dontreadmyprofilepicture5552 Please go away

@Name-qj9ql Жыл бұрын

Take my like and go

@falsemcnuggethope Жыл бұрын

You should screen out your puns before putting them on display here.

@milkyy4168 Жыл бұрын

@@falsemcnuggethope I had to type it out and press post in the first place

@sidharthraj3749 8 ай бұрын

manufacturers are just turning a blind eye on us. WE WANT GLOSSY MONITORS.

@Shredzac 5 ай бұрын

No gloss no care

@RexPecs Жыл бұрын

You can change the 30HZ for Mac if you go into the monitor onscreen menu and change Input/Output > USB-C bandwidth priority and then change it from USB 3.1 & 4k @60hz to USB 2.0 & 4k @144hz. I was buying different USB-C cables as I thought I had the wrong ones to output at 60hz, but I fiddled with the monitor settings and changed this and it works. I have a 2019 13 Macbook Pro connected to two of them and they both run at 60hz now. Although actually getting the monitors from Eve (dough) was a journey all in itself as others have said.

@RolandsSh Жыл бұрын

I feel like the screen finish is an incredibly individual thing. I personally absolutely abhor any kind of glare and reflections, so switching to a matte display was a godsend to me. I feel like the rather negligible reduction in vibrancy and contrast is well worth it, and there is just no going back for me.

@Skylancer727 Жыл бұрын

To me the contrast is not negligably worse but vastly worse. It's even more exaggerated now in the age of HDR. The sharpness drop also made the transition to 4K look pointless as sharpness being lower for matte displays basically ruins the benefits of 4K. I don't see pixels no, but I do see this awful snowflaking effect over the entire screen. Extremely noticeable when the background moves and is one color like when you're playing a game and you move the camera.

@yeti4269 Жыл бұрын

I know this is on the set, but wouldn't this test have been better with actual sunlight? I don't think many people have studio lights pointing at their monitor.

@peterwu2580 Жыл бұрын

Also having it on the left much proportionally closer to the left monitor

Жыл бұрын

Don't bring common sense to Linus' take, it's not GN.

@pitonpriscal3379 Жыл бұрын

It's interesting to see your videos in HDR. It really make the colors pop.

@TheNiteNinja19 Жыл бұрын

I had a blue gateway laptop from 2012 that had a glossy screen and I keep that laptop around because I feel it has one of the most vibrant displays I've ever seen in a computer even to this day. And it's enjoyable to watch movies on it.

@Maskullking Жыл бұрын

I've always hated glossy displays, even on phones. As with just a small amount of black or dark colors all I see is my reflection. Back in about 2015 I had a laptop that had a matte screen which broke, which I sent in for repair. They replaced the screen with a glossy one and I was legitimately annoyed.

@fastgecko5799 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I like matte glass protectors on my phone screens. The glare/reflection in bright areas is unbearable to me. Plus matte doesn't get greasy smudges as bad as gloss and it feels better under-finger.

@adamgreenhill110 Жыл бұрын

That's why I love my ROG Strix monitor (xg27aq). It has anti-glare, but a more semi-gloss style. It looks insanely crisp and smooth

@PersonSuit Жыл бұрын

I really like the HDR upload on this video. It surprised the hell out of me lol. I normally watch everything on my 16in M1Max MBP and since HDR is pretty much not a thing for most KZfaqrs I am used to seeing the 500nit max brightness most of the time. But right out of the gate with the text overlays at the start of this video I could tell the massive difference in peek brightness really making this video pop a lot more and sure enough when I looked at that gear icon there was HDR. I enjoyed this a lot. My only compalint is that with HDR, screens with solid white, like when you showed certain tech specs during the video is blinding bright. Not sure if that could be taken into account and maybe grayed up a bit or not.

@costafilh0 Жыл бұрын

This HDR video looks AWESOME on my Phone! Nice!

@shockrocker976 Жыл бұрын

For a solid 10 years I played on a 22" shitty 720p glass HP monitor. Every not glass monitor was horrific in comparison. The whole "reflection" issue was so minimal that it didn't feel much different from the glare of the other monitors. I also like most people, game with the lights off or dim. Especially now in the days of smart homes where you can setup a low lighting level in your room - the irrelevancy of these anti glare screens is more apparent than ever. I would buy a glass monitor in a heart beat if they came out with a 32" 2k 144hz 1ms monitor.

@saveusbloodymess Жыл бұрын

unless it's perfect lightning scenario, matte display is much better because the little clarity and brightness is no where near as significant as seeing reflections in the middle of the screens. For phones they kinda need to be glossy because of the touch screens(though there are laptops with matte screens that ar both great feeling and look gorgeous, like the ConceptD Ezel which I can say first hand is by far the best screen I used despite being a 1080@60 14'' screen). For TVs they get the benefit of"most people watch movies in dark rooms anyway", and both need to ook better when the screen is off because they double as a jewelry/home design accessories. If anything, I would want nice TVs and phones with good matte coating so I don't get every light source blinding me when viewed from the wrong angle.

@mwezi4193 Жыл бұрын

are you moving your setup? plus how hard would it really be to put up some blinds lmao

@Insanely_fragile Жыл бұрын

It's nice that you added HDR

@neth77 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for HDR. Looks baller!

@flackenstien Жыл бұрын

Miss me with that glossy shit. For real though, just want to say thanks to LTT for being honest and open in their reviews, and not afraid to tell companies the truth about them or the product they sent you. You do it to improve not only our information as consumers, but to help steer these companies in the right direction.

@SaturnTubes Жыл бұрын

Unless it’s a graphics card or processor at a time when nobody could acquire them. Then he’s happy to get them for free without ever calling out how annoying it is that he gets free shit all day while now one else can buy them if they wanted to

@flackenstien Жыл бұрын

Lol, salty?

@ixionn563 Жыл бұрын

@@SaturnTubes Didn't LTT literally run a giveaway for people to get free (or heavily discounted) GPUs during that time?

@FennecTECH Жыл бұрын

Matte displays are preferred on productivity systems because it reduces glare in something like a word processor or a video editing workload. Thats why you will see them on most business machines

@veduci22 Жыл бұрын

Matte displays are also preferred for viewing dark scenes in environment other than a near-perfect dark room, and sometimes even in dark room you can see reflection of your face illuminated by the light from the monitor...

@CMDRunematti Жыл бұрын

So glad you guys got into HDR... Showed me my Chromebook HDR is broken (all green) XD

@chrisleate-bh7cx Жыл бұрын

The main problem with EVE / Dough Sepctrum is that they don't really exist unless you're a reviewer. I ordered one in May 2022. Nothing. They won't refund either, and if you live in the US or UK, you have no way of getting it back. They will just steel your money. That's it 1146 Euros on something that will never turn up. THEY ARE NOTHING MORE THAN THIEVES. That's it really.

@sherlockmaverick Жыл бұрын

Great wordplay with the title!

@jamielee-brown2691 Жыл бұрын

Months into waiting for a refund after months of waiting for a monitor from Eve / Dough. Never in my adult life has a company treated me with such contempt. Eve / dough have been downright disingenuous. After missing their own refund deadlines twice, I was told that an error on their side required them to reset the clock on their 20 working day refund delay. I later found out that others received the same message. Feels like subterfuge designed to buy time and delude customers. It's not just the large sum of money which may be lost to me that hurts; it's been mentally exhausting to fight these guys after patiently waiting for multiple 20 working day return windows to lapse like a sucker. Find a company that deserves your money. I regret the day I gave Eve / Dough the benefit of the doubt.

@aaronthomas6155 Жыл бұрын

A better route at this point, if you're in the US, would be to report it to your credit card company and have them do a charge back. Then report them to the FTC.