THE GOD OF BRIGHAM YOUNG

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ancientpathstv

ancientpathstv

8 жыл бұрын

A comparison of the god of Brigham Young with the god proclaimed by the modern Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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@dreibel
@dreibel 2 жыл бұрын
"Brigham Young never taught that." "Oh yes he did! It's right there in the Journal of Discourses!" "Oh, that? That's a typo."
@christianbenavides4852
@christianbenavides4852 11 күн бұрын
It’s just so crazy to me how the church is trying so hard to cover up its history. Thank God, my eyes were opened.
@johnlark6583
@johnlark6583 5 жыл бұрын
The God that is the same from everlasting to everlasting seems to change quite often in the LDS faith depending on what the political climate is at any given time, and the current leader of the church.
@herbofallon965
@herbofallon965 Жыл бұрын
I must say, you have little clue as to what you’re talking about. Protestants and Sectarian Christians have little understanding of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. There is so much contradiction among the Man-made churches that they don’t know which is up or down, the reason being that the Man-made churches of the world do not have the Holy Ghost in any of them.
@stephenmapeka7774
@stephenmapeka7774 Жыл бұрын
That's very true
@ATD1990
@ATD1990 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@johnhorsley5199
@johnhorsley5199 22 күн бұрын
Bruce will face Brigham (if he's lucky) on the other side and it won't be good for him.
@johnhorsley5199
@johnhorsley5199 22 күн бұрын
I wouldn't believe anything coming out of Hinckley, when the saints find out the cover up concerning him, they'll be shocked!!
@cwhitener8782
@cwhitener8782 8 жыл бұрын
It just amazes me how LDS Church apologists reach for anything to deny, distort, or diminish their history. Thank you for putting out the journals of Pratt and that other guy. I'm so glad I'm out of the church. I once believed hook, line, and sinker. It's been about 7 years.
@Spaseebo
@Spaseebo 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, they have to, you see, for there is nothing to SUPPORT their religion's claims. There is no EVIDENCE, for example, of the civilisation that the Book of Mormon claimed existed in North America.
@pootdaggy2657
@pootdaggy2657 5 жыл бұрын
Good for you Whitener. get away from ALL of them.
@unholywarrior9007
@unholywarrior9007 3 ай бұрын
Luke 3 38 kjv wich was the son of Enos wich was the son of Seth wich was the son of Adam wich was the son of God. .... Jesus Genealogy now weather it's a typo he should have been teaching El is our grandfather and he had 2 firsts sons and is the father of our spirits. And Jesus is the first born in the flesh and spirit but Adam was only first born in the flesh ... 1st corinthians 15 38 kjv but God giveth him a body as it has pleased him to every Seed his own Body....1st corinthians 15 45 and it is written the first Adam was made a living soul the last Adam was made a quicken spirit... a d if you missed it in vs 38 the most high God the Father has a Body . Body body ... so you can't say it's not in the bibel
@unholywarrior9007
@unholywarrior9007 3 ай бұрын
​@Spaseebo john 1 3 kjv all things were made by him and with out him was not anything made... Genesis 1 kjv in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.... OK I think were all in agreement this is Jesus? But .... John 5 17 kjv but Jesus answered my father woreth hitherto and I work .... ohoh is Jesus lying? Stay toonned I am about to prove the multiverse. John 5 19 then Jesus answered and said unto them the son can do nothing of himself but what he seeth the father do for what things soever he doeth these also doeth the son likewise.... if your not keeping up how can the Son Jesus in the beginning creat everything if he hasn't seen the father woreth? Did he see his Father worketh in a different universe befor in the beginning yes ! Or you can teach with your doctrine God lies . John 5 21 kjv For as the father raises up the dead and quickeneth THEM even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. ... ohoh anther problem . JESUS has not been resurrected yet . And isn't Jesus the first fruits of the resurrection? 1st corinthians 15 20 kjv but now is christ risen from the dead and become the first fruits of them that slept .... so Jesus tells us in John 5 he has seen the Father resurrecting the dead and creating. So is Jesus lying to is ? Or did I just prove the multiverse. And I thought you said there is nothing in the bibel about this doctrine . So when you go back to genissis and the holy spirt is floating above the water and Jesus is creating stuff stop and think how do ghosts make babies so take a look at Adam . Ghosts don't cast shadows and they don't make babies . I can't believe I have to yell you this
@vestynensign2395
@vestynensign2395 8 жыл бұрын
Brigham Young taught it as doctrine. He told members and other leaders in 1873 that God revealed it to him and that he reveled it to the Church. He also stated that if people do not want to accept it it would prove their salvation or damnation.
@shellback1984
@shellback1984 5 жыл бұрын
The Lord told Joseph Smith as to why not all of his revelations had come to pass. The Lord responded and said, not all revelations come from God. Some come from God, others may come from man being personal inspirations and strong opinions and some can come from the devil. I think most of Brigham Young's ideas were not revelations but personal opinions as well as many others during that time-frame. I feel that they all got carried away within themselves and with their own imaginations and some were way out in left field including the Black issue. Their was no curse upon the black man that was a racist made up idea that many in that day believed in and perpetuated stories to keep it alive as doctrine which it was not only a practice that they chose to uphold in the church.
@RB-zh1eq
@RB-zh1eq 5 жыл бұрын
@Jim Caponzi Your lord and savior is just as made up.
@shellback1984
@shellback1984 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Caponzi you'll wish you could stick your head up your ass when you find out that you spent your life mocking God and his servants. Is it hard to kick against the pricks?
@allentremper8243
@allentremper8243 5 жыл бұрын
Vestyn Ensign yep, you can't have your cake and eat it too. I know this doctrine well, my brother was named Adam Michael because of this teaching, which was alive and well in the mainstream LDS Church in the late 70s early 80s. Spencer W Kimble was the Prophet I can remember the best, as he was the first prophet I was aware of as a child. I have seen that Kimble changed the LDS teachings into something they never were, were commanded never to compromise with the world and this prophet Kimble changed much of what was originally Unchangeable, but then suddenly It's not anymore, the call BS on one of the groups, either the early Church Prophets or the later, and Mormons are tricked into not knowing what their faith truly teaches by a doctrine that" A live prophet trumps a dead one". This is blasphemy at it's best, that the leadership of the Corporate Church of today has the power to overturn all previous prophecy of all Prophets, this makes them Infallible, which we know can't be true. So what to do with this information? I would suggest that all Mormons listen to Jesus's words only from the Bible, and study the Bible much more than they do. Another thing is that I know that the leadership knows all about the Fallen Ones or the Book of Enoch. They know it, use it, but never teach it, and will deny it, but they were into the occult( this simply means hidden, often referring to hidden teachings, it's neither good nor bad) and are Masonic, so they know but don't teach it. This is a high crime to all LDS of today as they think they know most of the story, but in fact haven't been taught rightly about history, wether it be Old Testament history or Church history, the leadership lies with impunity and without a second thought if it will support the Church System itself and not the Members. This is so obvious to anyone who was in the Church in the 70s or earlier, the Church of today is all but unrecognizable. I am not sure if this is a good thing or not. God bless you and your families!!!
@jon...6825
@jon...6825 5 жыл бұрын
@@shellback1984 Bull. Moses or any other prophet wrote wrong. If anyone says any prophecy that does not come true have nothing to do with him. Didn't he hold the children from 911 meadow murders from their families and then when they got 15 from 17 they were nearly dead. Skinny flees ect. They named a colleague after him. What a man. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZ2krKZ5mNimpIk.html
@Spaseebo
@Spaseebo 6 жыл бұрын
Brigham Young said: "Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 266). He also stated: "The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, page 269). #
@krissee6961
@krissee6961 5 жыл бұрын
borrowed tomb And it was dangerous to try to leave 😕
@richardlusby8949
@richardlusby8949 3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. The old testament taught the same thing. Why isn't it the same now? John 10: 34 "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" The same in Psalms 82. It can't be denied that Brigham actually is right on point with the bible.
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardlusby8949 ... So does that mean that men are already gods or do men become gods? Are they merely men with authority or are they gods? In what sense are they gods? Do they have the power to speak worlds into existence? Have you read different commentaries just out of curiosity?
@richardlusby8949
@richardlusby8949 3 жыл бұрын
@@truthbebold4009 That is our potential. See Romans 8:16 "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together." Joint heirs with Christ. Christ did more than die for our sins. He showed us the way to be like Him, so that we may be joint Heirs with Him. We are here to also prepare to meet God the Father and will be held accountable for everything we say and do. We are most definitely saved by grace but are held accountable, which will determine our measure of inheritance. Romans - "14:12 - So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Matthew 12: 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." On earth, I hope my sons will grow to be good and have all that I have, but still honor me. "Father, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." As it is in heaven. He has greater love for us than we will ever know here on earth.
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardlusby8949 Thanks for the reply. I like your post and agree except I would clarify that we are sons of God by adoption, not through birth.
@TheShodan92
@TheShodan92 5 жыл бұрын
Wait for Russel Nelson to pass away. Then the Mormons can toss out everything he ever said and start all over again.
@russellnichols5746
@russellnichols5746 3 жыл бұрын
His name is spelled (Russell) M. Nelson. Shows to me how carefully you research anything....
@richardlusby8949
@richardlusby8949 3 жыл бұрын
If that were a true pattern, the church would have ceased to exist years ago!
@tricotdiko1435
@tricotdiko1435 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@russellnichols5746Missed an “l” and you gonna judge like that? About all their research being invalid because of one letter? Research the rotten untrue church and weep.
@KathyStrickland-nh9vx
@KathyStrickland-nh9vx 3 ай бұрын
Every time a new prophet comes along things change. They realize they have to water down the past.
@markkrispin6944
@markkrispin6944 2 ай бұрын
Mormons are so good on dodging questions and lying. Rusty Nelson is the Anti-Christ
@shellback1984
@shellback1984 6 жыл бұрын
If a Prophet is the only one who speaks for the Lord, as if it came from the Lords own mouth then who was Brigham Young speaking for when later Prophets say that his words were heresy? How does one know when they speak for God and when they are speaking for themselves? I guess if the majority later doesn’t buy into it then they must have been speaking as men.
@firstbaldwin
@firstbaldwin 5 жыл бұрын
that is the thing. examining MORmONISM shows that it is very shaky if not an outright train wreck, and hardly a divinely guided work as MORmONS like to claim.
@Danielandmelly
@Danielandmelly Жыл бұрын
​@@firstbaldwin shaky foundation will not be aproved by the Lord. Plus a blind man cannot lead another . Thats why i dont follow nor believe these men. May the Lord rebuke and have mercy.
@jonbaker476
@jonbaker476 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best and most straightforward video I've ever seen on this topic. Fantastic job!
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind encouragement! Please check out our other videos and subscribe.
@wmnoffaith1
@wmnoffaith1 5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that Bruce McConkie tells people THEY need to repent for expecting that he is going to stand by false revelations that he made up! So basically, they just make up whatever they want, and when it becomes uncomfortable, they backpedal. When people ask why they said it originally they are told to repent. Makes sense to me.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Be sure to check out our other videos at www.lds.video; www.gaychristian.video; www.romancatholic.video; and in a couple of weeks at www.atheism.video.
@wmnoffaith1
@wmnoffaith1 5 жыл бұрын
Most of those don't apply to me, but thanks anyway; not really up my alley.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
@@wmnoffaith1 We try to point as many people as we can to the Biblical Jesus. As soon as we get out the atheism video, we're starting on An Earnest Plea to Muslims that will be at www.koran.video.
@joesmith5302
@joesmith5302 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, awesome research! I thought I knew all about the Adam-God theory already, but I learned a lot from your video. Very thorough. Thank You.
@joesmith5302
@joesmith5302 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't even realize until just now that I've already watched and commented on this video before. Just as impressed the 2nd time viewing as the 1st.
@dl1130
@dl1130 Жыл бұрын
I just listened to this. Thank you for affirming what my heart was telling me. I'm saddened but I love the true Lord more than I love man who may claim he speaks as a true prophet but the Lord warns of in the last days. God bless Christians everywhere to keep the faith and prepare for His coming.
@Johnathan909309
@Johnathan909309 Жыл бұрын
Jesus said whatever you do for someone else you do for me. The Orthodox church is Christ's true church learn about it and you will be transformed
@superscienceshow
@superscienceshow 3 жыл бұрын
Your audio and voice work is divine.
@joesmith5302
@joesmith5302 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! An extremely impressive, factual, unbiased, and devastating presentation. No childish axes being ground here. Just flawless, irrefutable proof. Thank you, very much!
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! As you can imagine, most people don't receive our videos well. Be sure to check out our other free videos at www.lds.video.
@johnlee1352
@johnlee1352 5 жыл бұрын
Proof of what?
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnlee1352 Did you watch the video?
@dw8773
@dw8773 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@MrMemyselfandi415
@MrMemyselfandi415 5 жыл бұрын
20:42 Wow! So let me get this straight! A prophet is PUT in authority by GOD HIMSELF...and then GOD SPEAKS THROUGH that prophet with HIS very own words.....only for us to find out later on that they were wrong? Or...wait...God can't be wrong...so....the prophet was wrong?.....or...wait...The prophet can't lead the church astray...so...???...who screwed up? Ya know, that law of non contradiction thing? logic? It can be a real bummer. "Well...don't worry about that... it doesn't matter? Follow the current modern day prophet." .......??? What the hell?? What I just heard was "Get in line and follow the current MAN...leader...dude in charge. Pay pray and obey!" Well I'm not a slave you can push around and lead for your own gain. It's almost like...it matters when it matters and when it doesn't make sense or paints us into a corner it doesn't matter sooooo..... keep pushing forward. They can't lose. Bah. Let me just say as a side note that I grew up as a Mormon so I know all of this stuff as well as anyone. But aside from the blatant contradictions, I have to tell you that they are the most wonderful group of people I've ever had the pleasure of knowing, and they try their best to be the best people they can be possible. They're just mislead in certain areas. But some stuff they have right...like community and family and loyalty, respect, love etc. Were there butt holes? Sure. People who are trying to do and be their best are still people. Just like any church or group there were self righteous jerks in every ward and stake. But the majority of them were AMAZING people. That's why it's sad to see how a tightly knit group of Godly people who were TRYING at every turn to do their best could be pushed around and subjugated to get in line and believe such crap. Do and believe as you're told and pay up. All that for nothing. So sad. Like a hamster wheel to nowhere for nothing.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
Check out After Mormonism. . .Now What? here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9p5oN2AmLydqYE.html
@lucyramirez87
@lucyramirez87 5 жыл бұрын
Hello MrmemyselfandI, many mormons are kind people, I too grew up surrounded by mormons and siblings that are mormon, but most of their actions is cause their trying so desperately to earn heaven, because that is what they are taught in order to be worthy, but a great majority of them are so empty and confused (i’ve seen with my own eyes) because no matter how much we do we it will never redeem us from sin much less earn is heaven. If they so much faith in the book of Mormon and the others they have, my question is? Why don’t t they have faith in the Bible 100%, it is inerrant and authoritative. But what I see here is that they have put their trust in men that have interpreted Scripture to their liking, more then trusting Scripture alone. There is much more I can say but I have to get to doing my HW.
@richardlusby8949
@richardlusby8949 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucyramirez87 Interestingly, I didn’t grow up Mormon. I grew up an atheist. Then I found the Book of Mormon and the Bible and joined the church. Both books stand beside each other as one in God's hands. Ezekiel chapter 37 - 16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah (the Bible), and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph (Book of Mormon), the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: 17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. The Bible and the Book of Mormon are one in God's hands and sacred. Mormons believe in the Bible 100%. How could you grow up in the church and not know this? At what point do we all finally admit to ourselves; Joseph Smith was a true prophet. He couldn’t have made up all of this. Truth is truth. Just because we choose not to believe something that is true doesn’t mean it’s not true. The Bible is true. The Church is true! The whole earth can deny it, but the church is true and Jesus Christ is our Savior!
@lucyramirez87
@lucyramirez87 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardlusby8949 Thank you for your explanation on Ezequiel 37:16-17, According to biblical history, this portion of Scripture has nothing to do with Mormonism, but everything to do with the nation of Israel splitting into two kingdoms because of the disobedience of one man, King Solomon. This here Scripture is prophesy for both these kingdoms that will come to pass in the future. God will join them back together to be ruled under one king, (Ezequiel 37:24) and for purpose, to serve God and to be of one mind. Nothing to do with the Mormon church. I do encourage you to read the book of Ephesians (in the New Testament). It has blessed me greatly and has illumined me to understand that I am saved by grace through Christ and that the center of my salvation rests in him only. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. (Ephesians 2:8, NASB) I also highly recommend the book of the Gospel of John.. Have a wonderful Christmas!
@richardlusby8949
@richardlusby8949 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucyramirez87 I appreciate your comments and agree to a point. I disagree with your comment that according to biblical history, this portion of Scripture has nothing to do with Mormonism (the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.) The bible has everything to do with the church. Without the bible, there would be no Book of Mormon. Ezekiel Chapters 33-39 deal with prophecies of the restoration of the Gospel. As 2nd Thessalonians 2:3 states, there would be a “falling away”. In Acts 3:21, Peter speaks of a restitution(restoration) of all things which God hath spoken. Chapter 29 of Isiah speaks of a book being given to an unlearned man (Joseph Smith), then a marvelous work and a wonder would proceed among the children of men, look what has happened because of the prayer of a 14-year-old boy, the church is indeed a marvelous work and a wonder, Genesis 49:22 prophecy’s that Joseph (sold into Egypt) is a fruitful bough by a well whose branches (family tree) run over the wall. (lead all the way to what would become the America’s), fruitful indeed. The restitution of all things spoken of by Peter has and is happening and the Book of Mormon is part of that restitution of all things, confirming that Jesus is the Savior of the world! It’s neat that in the old testament Jehovah is the Lord. In the new testament, Jehovah is never mentioned. Jesus Christ is the Lord. He is the Jehovah of the old testament. Merry Christmas!
@cwhitener8782
@cwhitener8782 8 жыл бұрын
Another thing, I wonder how different the Brigham Young era temple movie of the 1860's would have been. Elohim sends Jehovah to check on Adam... hmmmm. How would that work back then?
@richcountyratrodsjrod2329
@richcountyratrodsjrod2329 2 жыл бұрын
Truly appreciate your video.
@roberteaston6413
@roberteaston6413 10 ай бұрын
In Canada we also have fundamentalist Mormons, too. The difference is that Americans, for better or worse, do things on a bigger scale than Canadians. In Canada a fundamentalist Mormon might have 5 wives. In the USA they seem to have 15 wives. In Canada a fundamentalist Mormon might have 15-25 children. In the USA they have 40-65 children. In Canada if fundamentalist Mormons have a dispute they say nasty things about each other. In the USA they shoot each other. The government cannot go after fundamentalist Mormons for polygamy; unless one of their wives is under 15. Right now Canada is getting immigrants from Africa and Asia that are polygamous. For political reasons no government can jail people for practicing polygamy.
@zon3665
@zon3665 3 жыл бұрын
Easy - Brigham Young taught pure revelation. Spencer W. Kimball negated it without replacement revelation. The pure revelation stands.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 3 жыл бұрын
The whole Mormon system is built on lies. Check out www.lds.video, especially Joseph Smith: Behind the Mask.
@zon3665
@zon3665 3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientpathstv You don't have enough intelligence to understand the difference between truth and lies. So essentially it doesn't matter what you think.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 3 жыл бұрын
@@zon3665 We take the time to demonstrate the lies of Mormonism, because we know the only ones who have anything to fear from truth are liars. All you do is rant.
@zon3665
@zon3665 3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientpathstv You are what the Apostle Paul warned about in Roman's- turning the truth of God into a lie. The devil of all devils delights in you. He has a nice flaxen cord about your neck leading carefully down to hell.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 3 жыл бұрын
@@zon3665 We back up our claims from the Bible. If what we're saying is wrong, prove it with more than name-calling.
@krissee6961
@krissee6961 5 жыл бұрын
What iz that accent given to Brigham Young?!
@BILLOFRIGHTSDANGER
@BILLOFRIGHTSDANGER 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing research. Thank you!
@sewme7861
@sewme7861 5 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the Bible saying "now before you make fun of this you better take heed." Hilarious. There are ethnic religions based on a shared blood and people that goes back to pagan times, and there is Christianity the miracle based religion. And then there is the bible-jacker religions, JWs, Mormons, so on etc. Even Islam is a bible jacker. What next type will there be?
@debrarowley6495
@debrarowley6495 6 жыл бұрын
Bringem Young died an extremely wealthy man. I always wonder how he got all his money, when most Mormons at the time were struggling as small time farmers. I also wonder if he ever contacted VD. All it would take would be for one of his wife's to step out on him with the wrong man and then the ---- would have hit the fan.
@johnlee1352
@johnlee1352 5 жыл бұрын
His estate was valued at $400,000...hardly extremely wealthy. Knowledge is power. You should try some power once in a while.
@jamesers99
@jamesers99 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnlee1352 that was very wealthy for his day.
@johnlee1352
@johnlee1352 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesers99 Divide that by 27 families...it's not that much.
@kevinevans8892
@kevinevans8892 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should tell that to the LDS Church
@ChrisJones-ij3xp
@ChrisJones-ij3xp 2 жыл бұрын
When Brigham Young died in 1877, he owed the Mormon church $1,000,000 that he had "borrowed" from the tithes. That was a vast sum of money in those days.
@JulioJoelRoncal
@JulioJoelRoncal 2 жыл бұрын
Great research!
@kevinevans8892
@kevinevans8892 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting and needed presentation that exposes a very dangerous false teacher. Thanks
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 3 жыл бұрын
Be sure to check out our other videos on this channel.
@Lion_Hamza
@Lion_Hamza 4 жыл бұрын
Do LDS and Christians believe God is a trinity?
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 4 жыл бұрын
LDS are polytheists. They believe in a multitude of "gods," who are really just exalted men. Christians believe in one infinite, eternal God, who eternally exists in three distinct persons. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aqmHh8dm0b6lh5s.html
@eunicebryan5410
@eunicebryan5410 5 жыл бұрын
This is total confusion! Why not believe the Bible, because it is actually God's Word, and it never changes!
@stephenobrien6983
@stephenobrien6983 5 жыл бұрын
Which Bible exactly? There are a confusing amount.
@krisofamerica
@krisofamerica 5 жыл бұрын
Men change the bible quite often.
@bryanpratt5850
@bryanpratt5850 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenobrien6983 The Holy Bible
@bryanpratt5850
@bryanpratt5850 3 жыл бұрын
@@krisofamerica examples?
@lorineilson7529
@lorineilson7529 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how they can disavow something. Once the Porphet teaches it isn't it always true? How in the world would anyone teach that Adam was God. And why would people believe it? Come to know the true and everlasting God of the Bible.
@mikestroud9969
@mikestroud9969 8 ай бұрын
Ex Mormon here. Left the church years ago. So did several friends of mine. Joseph Smith was a Con man 😢. A Necromancer. He plagarized other Holy scriptures like Enoch for example. Joseph Smith said The Golden plates were taken back up to Heaven after translation. Unbelievable Nonsense 🤢🥶. Lot of good people there though. 😊😊. Book of Mormon is a false doctrine. Good video. Take care God bless ❤️🙏💯. Last Note Jesus Christ is the only one that holds the Keys to Heaven and Hell. 👍💯
@masterbulgokov
@masterbulgokov Жыл бұрын
Well . . . they can't have it both ways. You can't say out of one side of your mouth "every utterance of the President of the Church is scripture", and "Brigham goofed" out of the other side. You have to pick one, and only one. Frankly, it would be nice if they would just be honest about the past. That would go a long way, I think.
@naomisipus9524
@naomisipus9524 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Be sure to check out the rest of our LDS videos at www.lds.video.
@pamsmith485
@pamsmith485 6 жыл бұрын
All I can say is Jesus is not our brother he is our creator because he is God .
@bcg3166
@bcg3166 2 жыл бұрын
How can Jesus be God when he never claimed to be God in the firsts place?
@jfintex43
@jfintex43 Жыл бұрын
@@bcg3166 Jesus did tell us... in multiple places and multiple ways
@hollayevladimiroff131
@hollayevladimiroff131 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, very well done. Mormonism apologetics will say this is not in their doctrine even though it comes from their Presidents of the church.
@SuperFarrOut
@SuperFarrOut 4 жыл бұрын
And he sayeth unto the Lord, He that hath that grammar which calls into question the existineth of the the Lord Almighty, that shall be casteth into the depths of which only the highest members of God's creations can riseth and commandeth from. Thus sayeth the Lord. And the fourteen-year-old. Fourteeneth. Amen.
@ChristinaOstil115
@ChristinaOstil115 6 жыл бұрын
So why Brigham Young say this?
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 6 жыл бұрын
He claimed he got it from Joseph Smith. I think it was an attempt to reconcile their idea of God as an exalted man with us being children of God. Since Brigham's doctrine involved Elohim falling into sin over and over, it created more problems than it solved for their thinking. I encourage you to watch An Earnest Plea to Latter-day Saints. I think it will help you to understand LDS errors better. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ht6hiZimr6jXnWw.html
@rachh2007
@rachh2007 6 жыл бұрын
Galatians 1 1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) 2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia: 3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, 4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: 5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. 11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. Paul stated twice, because it was so important to be understood and because it was such an important point to get across. On the FRONT cover of the BOM it simply stated what Paul warned about, ANOTHER TESTAMENT OF JESUS CHRIST. Even back in Paul's day, there were many false prophets even as there are today, making outrageous claims about themselves and their abilities to communicate with spirits and whatnot. ACCURSED is quite a strong word, but most certainly appropriate for whomever makes these claims.
@kevinloving606
@kevinloving606 6 жыл бұрын
Amen
@artheis1342
@artheis1342 5 жыл бұрын
After you have prayed and asked the Lord to clear your preconceived ideas, Read John Chapter 17.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the video?
@cleonzerkle3081
@cleonzerkle3081 5 жыл бұрын
Is this sapose to be controversial.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
Did you watch it?
@SusieQUnleashed
@SusieQUnleashed 3 жыл бұрын
THe importance of knowing the scriptures so that you can discern error in man's false teachings. Genesis is clear and so are the gospels on who Adam was and about Jesus' birth. Revelations will NOT disagree with scripture
@sbm3134
@sbm3134 2 жыл бұрын
At 16:21…. Good question. I ask myself that now as you can’t go by ‘Mormon’ any longer because revelation says it’s an abomination. Yet all the years I was growing up, we were Mormons & LDS (whatever you wanted to use). Prophets in those days said it was all good. So they were all wrong in God’s eyes yet were prophets? So the current prophet may think so. Who knows. I’ll never understand how they can change things if they were ok at one point. God doesn’t change.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 2 жыл бұрын
The easy way to get to all the LDS videos on this channel is www.lds.video.
@sampathrathnayaka3905
@sampathrathnayaka3905 Жыл бұрын
‘’I have this section in my hand, headed “An Act in Relation to African Slavery.” I have read it over and made a few alterations. I will remark with regard to slavery, inasmuch as we believe in the Bible, inasmuch as we believe in the ordinances of God, in the Priesthood and order and decrees of God, we must believe in slavery. This colored race has been subjected to severe curses, which they have in their families and their classes and in their various capacities brought upon themselves. And until the curse is removed by Him who placed it upon them, they must suffer under its consequences; I am not authorized to remove it. I am a firm believer in slavery.’’ Brigham young
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
Be sure to check out our other LDS videos at www.lds.video. You might also enjoy this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9mGgJtq0bOUpIU.html
@gary00333
@gary00333 4 жыл бұрын
Well if Brigham Young said I can't become a "God" unless I have several wives, who am I to argue with a prophet? "Honey, I'm going out for a while. Don't be surprised when I return. I'll have some folks for you to meet." Woo hoo!!!!
@joecamel6196
@joecamel6196 Жыл бұрын
Don't be surprised to find that your wife tries to poison you twice, for coming back and beating her for confronting you for lying & hiding those women from her....like Joseph's wife Emma did.
@gary00333
@gary00333 Жыл бұрын
@@joecamel6196 Great point! Okay, I’ve changed my mind! 😄
@GOODTAGO
@GOODTAGO 5 жыл бұрын
Why LDS Neo-Orthodoxy is so important.
@nerdnul
@nerdnul 8 жыл бұрын
It is quite apparent that the god worshiped by LDS followers is not the Holy God of Heaven from the Old and New Testament.
@robertallison107
@robertallison107 6 жыл бұрын
+Maxwell Silverhammer Agreed. Mormons like to think that THEY set the standard for WHO God is....like most pseudo-christian cults, their dogma supersedes the Bible and orthodox Christianity.
@AlfonsoRamirez-gx4dr
@AlfonsoRamirez-gx4dr 8 жыл бұрын
loco
@sbm3134
@sbm3134 2 жыл бұрын
19:01….or how about he was a nut job? That should’ve been one of your options in how you were trying to figure him out. They want to skirt around the issues.
@keepitsimple4629
@keepitsimple4629 5 жыл бұрын
I really want to watch this video, but I'll have to fast forward over the mealy-mouthed Gordon Hinckley. He literally makes me sick. I'm hearing so many lies here from so-called lds leaders, it sickens me to realize I believed this bullshit for years.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
Be sure to check out After Mormonism. . . Now What? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9p5oN2AmLydqYE.html
@blakeatkin8093
@blakeatkin8093 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your video. I love Jesus Christ with all my heart. I want every advantage possible in my quest to draw nearer to Him. I also believe Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and all who followed them in the presidency of the LDS church, down to President Russell M. Nelson, to be prophets of God. The reason I watched your video is that I want to be a true disciple of Jesus Christ, and I want to worship Him, and I want to know how to worship Him, and if you are able to point out to me how my worship of Him is lacking, or can be improved, I am indebted to you. Your video helped confirm to me that I am on the right track in following the teachings of the LDS church. We Mormons are believers. We believe. Let me say it again. We believe. Because we know that the way to please God is to believe. And what we believe is not static, we believe that man is in a lost and fallen state. When Adam partook of the forbidden fruit he fell from grace. Since that time, as the Apostle Paul put it, “we see through a glass darkly.” God wishes to lift us out of the darkness, but it takes time. It takes patience and perseverance. It takes discipleship. No flash in a pan, but a true eternal commitment to follow God. We believe that God gives us line upon line, line upon line, precept upon precept as the prophet Isaiah taught. We are taught before we are baptized that “we believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that God will yet reveal many great and important truths pertaining to the Kingdom of God.” Those words were penned by Joseph Smith, the first prophet of our modern time. How foolish would it be for us to think that Brigham Young or any later prophet suddenly had all truth, or a complete understanding of all of God’s truth. Your video strengthened my hope that the leaders of my church, like me, are seeking a better understanding of who He is. Seeking to draw nearer to Him, not just with their lips, but with their whole hearts and souls. I appreciate you having studied the issue well enough and putting the teachings into your video with enough context to allow the viewer to see that we believe in a God who understands our fallen state. Who understands that mankind needs to be elevated line upon line. That our understanding of who God is will grow as He continues to reveal Himself not only to his church, but to each of us if we will be honest in heart and receive his spirit. Thank you for your fine work. May God bless us to come to a greater understanding of who He is. That is my fervent prayer for all of us.
@jfintex43
@jfintex43 Жыл бұрын
Mor(m)ons don't know the true and living Jesus... you believe in a false Jesus and false prophets. Ignorance to this will fall on you and you alone. You can search for God, or a religion.... pretty clear you only looked for a religion
@markkrispin6944
@markkrispin6944 Жыл бұрын
You are either stupid, ignorant or brainwashed to believe in the Mormon cult church. I believe that you are all 3 of them.
@slytlygufy
@slytlygufy Жыл бұрын
To please Him, get out of that abomination and become part of Christ's Church.
@lancekotter927
@lancekotter927 25 күн бұрын
It's because Brigham was a heretic and a falsely inspired person, arguably according to new light, the reason Joseph was martyred.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 25 күн бұрын
Please watch. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9mGgJtq0bOUpIU.html
@derekbeauchamp2409
@derekbeauchamp2409 Жыл бұрын
?..
@pootdaggy2657
@pootdaggy2657 5 жыл бұрын
I guess Pratt angered ol Brig to the point that he sent his brother off to Arkansas to get killed so John Lee could wipe out their wagon train in revenge. If only Pratt had worshiped Adam we might have avoided the MMM.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
Actually Parley Pratt went to Arkansas to steal the children of a woman he had seduced away from her husband. She was his twelfth wife. The husband caught him and killed him.
@kevinevans8892
@kevinevans8892 3 жыл бұрын
Pratt was an adulterer
@allentremper8243
@allentremper8243 5 жыл бұрын
My brother was born in 1981, his name is Adam Michael.....T. My Mom and Dad didn't name him this because they didn't believe that the doctrine. Now my Dad is dead, my Mom is about as good of a Mormon that can be, and she believes that Michael the Archangel is in fact Adam our first Father. I don't think that they would have named him that if not for being taught in the late 70s- early 80s, they were certainly taught this Doctrine. I have found that it is often doctrine that gets us in trouble, and Covenants should not be made, unless God the Father asks it of you personally, I don't believe in entering into Covenant with anyone that i may not keep, it would be better for me not to make more Law than Jesus Christ gave us, along with the 10 Commandments of the Father. This is something that Mormons do and I think it will end up damning more than it will exalt. "For Those who who seek to exalt thyself shall be Humbled and the Humble will be Exalted" There's so much that has been brought to light, how can we blindly follow anyone? Let alone a mortal man who is called a Prophet, but rarely prophecies on anything and when they do, they contradict each other time and again. Either the early Church was instituted by God Almighty, and in that case the Mormon Church of today is in complete apostasy.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
Please watch our other videos free at www.lds.video.
@Markbeb3
@Markbeb3 2 жыл бұрын
Mormon church was always a false church just as bad as the Roman Catholic who makes Mary their God to pray too.
@edbrown8254
@edbrown8254 4 жыл бұрын
Trying to prove or refute Mormon teachings through the Bible is like two nerds trying to prove or refute Vulcan culture through Star Trek movies. Hey folks, religion is all just fiction. Imagine two kids arguing about which of their two imaginary friends is the coolest. True, Mormonism is loonier than most religions, but that's only because it's newer and easier to refute. If we had contemporary Roman accounts of Jerusalem in AD 30, I'm sure that they would think that what the apostles taught about Jesus was also goofy.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 4 жыл бұрын
You really ought to watch The Atheist Illusion on this channel. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNWTidp7m5y-nac.html
@gotthelfschwab1272
@gotthelfschwab1272 Жыл бұрын
remarkly though we all agree that God created man rsp. Adam after his own image, so who creates himself after his own image?
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
Please watch. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ht6hiZimr6jXnWw.html
@gotthelfschwab1272
@gotthelfschwab1272 Жыл бұрын
@@ancientpathstv I have watched your link.
@ningenJMK
@ningenJMK 2 жыл бұрын
Brigham was only like 5'0". Tom Cruise or Aaron Paul would have totally destroyed him.
@keithwolfe1942
@keithwolfe1942 2 жыл бұрын
Brigham Young's biggest problem was that he was not born again. Why follow anything he said?
@icecreamladydriver1606
@icecreamladydriver1606 8 ай бұрын
McConkie even said that a polygamous relationship would destroy the soul. That is an admission that polygamy is a bad thing so why do they still hang onto polygamy.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 8 ай бұрын
The Mormon prophet has to be right, or they'd have to listen to the Biblical ones.
@icecreamladydriver1606
@icecreamladydriver1606 8 ай бұрын
In Jacob chapter two the Book of Mormon is very specific about how God feels about polygamy. He, Jacob who was a prophet in the Book of Mormon, tells us that it is a crime and an abomination to God. I realize that you are not Mormon and don't accept the Book of Mormon but I do. I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and that he did translate the Book of Mormon from the gold plates just as he said he did. Brigham Young, in my opinion from the things I have learned, committed much sin and crime and framed Joseph Smith for it. He and his cronies even changed much of the church history to make it look like Joseph said it was revelation and commanded Joseph to start polygamy and other things contrary to God's desire. I really appreciate you making this video. When I get a chance I will watch the other one as well. Thanks.@@ancientpathstv
@jerrimenard3092
@jerrimenard3092 Жыл бұрын
Also, if you look in Brigham Young's Journal of discourse, it becomes very clear he believes in more then one God. He consistently refers to God's plural.He said that "There are no brick men or Rib women". So it's Polytheistic. I am not a Christian and have no desire to be. Still, I won't lie. The Mormon Church wants desperately to be accepted as Christian for political and social reasons.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
You might also enjoy this. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ht6hiZimr6jXnWw.html
@greasyhandsauto-shaunbutte9726
@greasyhandsauto-shaunbutte9726 5 жыл бұрын
You care why?
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
We care because Mormons are following a false prophet to their eternal destruction. We care because we long to see Mormons know a Jesus far more glorious than anything their church teaches. We care because God is being blasphemed by their false prophets, who claim He is an exalted man who is one among a multitude of gods.
@cheps76
@cheps76 Жыл бұрын
I was a good Mormon for 6 years. Met so many amazing people members of the church. I believe I was in a spiritual high as a new member. Then God removed me from it. It’s so far from the truth, though they teach family togetherness. It is a false gospel, and hope the amazing members find the true and living good…hint it’s not in a church. It’s in your heart.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
Many who leave the Mormon church still believe some of the lies they told them. Be sure to check this out. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9p5oN2AmLydqYE.html
@mississippijackxknife2899
@mississippijackxknife2899 3 жыл бұрын
"Jesus Christ Message to All Nations" (FLDS D&C) 97:18-19 “My servant Joseph Smith; then Brigham Young continued my work; John Taylor thereafter; [note: fourth LDS president Wilford Woodruff is now omitted because he wrote Official Declaration-1, which banned polygamy, in 1890] then John W. Woolley, and Lorin C. Woolley after him; John Y. Barlow; Leroy S. Johnson after him; and my servant Rulon T. Jeffs; And my servant on earth continues my work, though in bondage, though accused by those who are of wicked intent in their own lives, who do not see truth of the beauty of the Everlasting Gospel of Jesus Christ; who fightest against my Church and Kingdom, even those of apostate influence, who have turned from my Gospel, Church, and Kingdom.”
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 3 жыл бұрын
Please watch our other videos free at www.lds.video.
@davidtimpson8646
@davidtimpson8646 4 жыл бұрын
"Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation." These words are coming to fulfillment before our very eyes.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 4 жыл бұрын
Be sure to check out our other videos at www.lds.video.
@robertlarsen7303
@robertlarsen7303 4 жыл бұрын
Non of this is official church doctrine. Doctrine of the church is only written in the standard works.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 4 жыл бұрын
And, of course, the living prophet is more vital than the standard works. so there's always a moving target.
@tdubs5128
@tdubs5128 4 жыл бұрын
So you are saying that the teachings of Brigham Young were false?
@kevinevans8892
@kevinevans8892 3 жыл бұрын
Don't hold your breath for an informed and honest answer. Mormons are prepared to obfuscate, backpedal, use ad hominems, name drop and lie to defend the indefensible
@hiker-uy1bi
@hiker-uy1bi Жыл бұрын
How anyone can stay in Mormonism is beyond me
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
Apart from God changing their hearts, people prefer lies to the truth.
@foottanghyena5620
@foottanghyena5620 10 ай бұрын
The church is true...
@hiker-uy1bi
@hiker-uy1bi 10 ай бұрын
@@foottanghyena5620 which claim that it makes is true
@foottanghyena5620
@foottanghyena5620 10 ай бұрын
@@hiker-uy1bi This is the church of Jesus Christ, Jesus restored his church and his gospel through his chosen prophet Joseph.
@hiker-uy1bi
@hiker-uy1bi 10 ай бұрын
@@foottanghyena5620 oh, yeah that stuff’s demonstrably false.
@SusieQUnleashed
@SusieQUnleashed 3 жыл бұрын
Galations 5;4
@pseudonymBOB
@pseudonymBOB 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Mormons adopted the LDS abbreviation seems to follow the Scientologist’s LRH
@SusieQUnleashed
@SusieQUnleashed 3 жыл бұрын
read Genesis and this all falls apart. GOD have mercy total delusion and mot according to the Bible
@mvaug69
@mvaug69 2 жыл бұрын
The foundational teaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is unchanged and unchanging. Accepting that we humans are not immortal and prone to the sin of the flesh, until our Savior returns, no Church (meaning the people) is perfect. Truth is perfect inspired by God. However, to claim that a Church doctrine is true only to later find it is false, is very serious because many are led astray. For Church officials to make excuses in denial of such error is evil. All sin is forgiven by God by way of admission of sin and repentance of it. To admit a wrong and proudly say "we are not perfect", while claiming to be a leader of a true Church to save losing popularity and continuance, is deceitful. Lives are ruined under these pretences. God will not be mocked. Joseph Smith created his own doctrine and he made many mistakes that in the 21stC have come to light. Jesus is our Saviour. He is the resurrected Christ. His doctrine is the doctrine of God, unchanged and unchanging. He is our king, prophet and Savior. In Him all is truth. In Him we place our trust. Satan has infiltrated the Church. That is truth. Beware of the lies that come to deceive us. These are the end times. Many false prophets are in the world today. We have been warned. Pray and put your whole trust in Christ, not the systems of this world born of profit snd gain, riches and pride. No Church on earth today is true. God is truth, Christ is truth and the Holy Spirit and Word of God are true. All are truth. No other can save.
@SusieQUnleashed
@SusieQUnleashed 3 жыл бұрын
Romans 5;12-21 we inherit our sin through adam and inherit our righteousness through Jesus Christ
@zachgarver7922
@zachgarver7922 2 жыл бұрын
Arguing about the doctrinal purity of God is Adam among Mormons is roughly equivalent to flat earthers arguing with QAnon. The entire body of mormon doctrine as well as the church version of mormon history is so absurd and distorted as to relegate any one particular issue as totally meaningless.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 2 жыл бұрын
The sheep hear the Shepherd's voice. Many have credited our videos with leading them out of Mormonism and to the Biblical Jesus.
@SusieQUnleashed
@SusieQUnleashed 3 жыл бұрын
Read the new testament in the BIBLE and forget these false prophets
@curtistolman5830
@curtistolman5830 11 сағат бұрын
You have misrepresented the General Authorities completely. We owe our thanks to Adam and Eve for our mortal bodies. Our Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother came to earth and ate the food the earth provided and had twins, Adam and Eve, they grew up in the presence of our Heavenly parents but could not pass puberty, they needed to partake of the only food brought here from a mortal world in order to develop into people who could produce children. From Adam to Noah, twin births were the normal pregnancy. (A male and his female) One of God's commandments was to fill the earth with people. The only reason we know of 3 of Adam's children is because they had meaning to the Jewish people. All the rest were not their ancestors, and the story of Cain and Abel taught us of the first murder. The Bible is the genealogy of the Jewish nation. In the restoration of all things, we will have a Bible from each of the 12 sons of Israel. Right now, we have the record of the Jewish nation, the Holy Bible, and the record of the Josephite nation, The Book of Mormon. Genesis says Adam and Eve had many children. I believe they had 900 sets of twins, and when these children reached puberty, they were married and commanded to go and do likewise. We are told that the population of the world at the time of Noah was many Trillions, not Billions. We are also taught that until the days of Peleg, the oceans were north of the Arctic circle. All the world south of the Arctic circle was farm land. D&C 133:23 says the oceans will return to the land of the north as they were in the beginning.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 10 сағат бұрын
You need to reexamine what your general authorities are teaching. I'm not the one misrepresenting them.
@_KungFuBarbie_
@_KungFuBarbie_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is a LOT of gaslighting my goodness.
@RoanPretorius-de7xv
@RoanPretorius-de7xv Ай бұрын
Lie upon lie !! Deception upon deception!!!
@warriorhealth2172
@warriorhealth2172 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for strengthening my testimony in the LDS church
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 2 жыл бұрын
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Revelation 22:15
@Fatfinger4378
@Fatfinger4378 Жыл бұрын
@@ancientpathstv Not to worry, that may have just been a joke, but if not, it's business as usual. When your religion is so easily falsifiable all you have left is denial and delusion. With the result being remarks like "thanks for strengthening my testimony" when people watch something like this excellent video or read something like the CES Letter. As difficult as it may be for rational people to comprehend, there are always some that will choose a comforting delusion over an uncomfortable reality.
@Johnathan909309
@Johnathan909309 Жыл бұрын
@@Fatfinger4378 the truth is the Eastern Orthodox Church is the church of Jesus Christ learn what real and healthy Christianity is
@SusieQUnleashed
@SusieQUnleashed 3 жыл бұрын
they have fallen from grace
@kevinevans8892
@kevinevans8892 3 жыл бұрын
They never had grace to fall from it
@bradjennings8714
@bradjennings8714 2 жыл бұрын
The prophet Peter denied Christ and God forgave him.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 2 жыл бұрын
And how does that correspond to Brigham teaching Adam was Elohim for decades until he died?
@mamnoomrsyawar
@mamnoomrsyawar 5 жыл бұрын
More PROOF these are FALSE prophets!
@Markbeb3
@Markbeb3 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ was never be gotten but always was. He’s the only savor not of any works we done but what Christ done on the cross. He only can save and we can not work good to be saved read the scriptures and stay away from the Mormon book it’s completely a lie.
@jasonmcdaniel4571
@jasonmcdaniel4571 4 жыл бұрын
!(?Isu=(.o.)=Love!)! The son of man...or...the son of god...?(!acretion=a creation?)?[zues,titus,menalaus],...{titus and menalaeus killed zues at nineveh...old world prior to Isu.}.[Yhawhe...(😭*😂)]duck I see a scalping party of women... Corynthians...for whosoever does not know God does not know love for love is god. (😭Period.😂)how🖖 gwilo... seriously how...? Ok who fed the gremelins...? Orvald apple seed and Paul bunyons revere made a deal with mr. Steel combine smithy and Wesson and kook tran became mostly kook yourself tranny...? I'm scared...? That's some cold calculating shizzy with the Smith and wesson...but maybe we can send some to the tranny fannies may not want to play foundation...? Butts about it no pun intended...!
@SusieQUnleashed
@SusieQUnleashed 3 жыл бұрын
they are the damned
@nasticanasta
@nasticanasta 3 жыл бұрын
I could do without the singing and the voices
@Johnathan909309
@Johnathan909309 Жыл бұрын
The Orthodox church is the true church of our Lord. Learn about it and be transformed!
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
Subscribe and you'll soon be notified of our latest video, The Failure of Eastern Orthodoxy.
@Johnathan909309
@Johnathan909309 Жыл бұрын
@@ancientpathstv eo didn't fail...it has had no next to no exposure in the West due to catholicism and was not even allowed in the West for a long time it is the oldest form of Christianity we have with zero doubt. The church fathers were orthodox!!!!!!!!!!!!! In theology and practice brother. Something the west is not anymore. I grew up Baptist and the Eastern Orthodox Church is the most biblical church without a doubt after 12 years of study.
@Johnathan909309
@Johnathan909309 Жыл бұрын
@@ancientpathstv eo is growing vastly here in America because it is Godly as it is Christ body.
@Johnathan909309
@Johnathan909309 Жыл бұрын
@@ancientpathstv study eo from their side not apologetically through someone else's lense and you will be transformed brother
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
@@Johnathan909309 Your claims will be thoroughly answered in the upcoming video.
@cpduarte10
@cpduarte10 7 жыл бұрын
There are some things that are only understood by revelation. Any reasoning doesn't matter in the spiritual sphere and probably it is seen as foolish by eternal beings. There are tons of truth and clear teachings that make millions of Mormons families really happy and prosperous, why should we loose time trying to spot isolated and not totally understood doctrines? I really don't know why Brigham young said that and if in it resides some truth, but what I know is that the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints is the living church of God. I don't know it by study or material proof, i got it by revelation from the Holy Spirit and no one is able to take it off from me.
@silvereagle4903
@silvereagle4903 7 жыл бұрын
The events surrounding the Mountain Meadows massacred defined the Mormon Church because of the way Brigham Young acted before and after the murders. Mormon doctrine and theology really don't matter, its behavior that tells me they are not true, because of the lies and misinformation they spew about that one event.
@cpduarte10
@cpduarte10 7 жыл бұрын
It's almost impossible to reach the past accuratelly, look to the beatifull of the church today, it will become easy to at least realize that something is weird with some history accounts about it.
@silvereagle4903
@silvereagle4903 7 жыл бұрын
Carlos, all Mormon property in Utah was paid for with the blood of the men, women and children that lived there before 1849, and the Mormon invasion.
@Spaseebo
@Spaseebo 6 жыл бұрын
Ah! Personal revelation! The Lord God speaks directly to this gentleman.
@josephjones5130
@josephjones5130 5 жыл бұрын
As a member of the LDS church I don’t like Brigham Young, either. He said some messed up stuff. The only reason he got his position as prophet is because when Joseph died he believed he was the one to run the church and convinced everyone else that he would look after them. He was a strong character and everyone probably thought the church needed someone like him for this time. Desperate times call for desperate measures I suppose.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 жыл бұрын
The God and the Gospel of the Bible are far more glorious than anything you've ever heard in the LDS church. Please watch An Earnest Plea to Latter-day Saints free at www.lds.video.
@josephjones5130
@josephjones5130 5 жыл бұрын
JEM Seven if you see what other authorities have said about some of Brigham Young’s beliefs you will find that even they discounted a lot of what he taught. A prophet can mess up and still be a prophet. King David did many miracles through Gods power, yet he committed one of the worst sins known to man, murder and then adultery. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t a man of God. If you are a Christian then you, too will know that even the very elect can fall and make mistakes. In fact that is pretty much the theme of the story of mankind from the beginning until now. More difficulties are coming our way and we should unite as One under Christ, despite our own religious back ground. We must help each other through this mess, not by criticising, but by uplifting each other. Much love my brother.
@josephjones5130
@josephjones5130 5 жыл бұрын
JEM Seven lol so much bitterness. “Mormon” as though it’s an insult, haha. Obviously wasting my time here. Good luck with that attitude, I’m sure it will take you far in life.
@josephjones5130
@josephjones5130 5 жыл бұрын
JEM Seven Lets be real here. I know you can’t stand Mormons and probably think we are some kind of cult or crazy people. ( we are kinda crazy lol ) Even if you don’t care about my opinion I do care about yours. Surely you have at least an ounce of thought for my well-being, otherwise you wouldn’t have bothered to comment here, right? I don’t want to argue continuously with you because I know that whatever we say will only reinforce our own believes even stronger and only create more contention between us. I respect your views, and won’t argue against them. I pray that someday you may look at us Mormons differently, but until then I wish you the best. And I apologise for calling out your attitude earlier. Cheers.
@josephjones5130
@josephjones5130 5 жыл бұрын
JEM Seven I am not bothered by your hatred and anger towards me. I have dealt with plenty of your kind,as well. All I am trying to do here is send love instead of hate. Whether you accept that or not, it’s up to you. I know that one day you will feel guilt for the hate and pain that you are causing for Mormons, and you will find that they ( besides God ) will be the only people that will forgive you. You may continue to argue and insult me all you like, it’s a free world. But I am done here, feel free to contact me when you have something nice to say. God bless.
@BrianTerrill
@BrianTerrill Жыл бұрын
Two titles that seemed to go hand in hand that described Jesus were "son of God" and "son of man" the first in Hebrew is "ben elohim" and the second "Ben Adam". It will be funny to watch all those who throw Brigham under the bus on the day they have to give their accounting to him and see what happens.
@SidJane10
@SidJane10 11 ай бұрын
Brigham twisted everything Joseph started. He makes me ill. Joseph was a real prophet and Brigham the imposter who was behind all the falsehoods including polygamy that was also pinned to Joseph when he preached adamantly against it.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 11 ай бұрын
Please watch. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9mGgJtq0bOUpIU.html
@SidJane10
@SidJane10 11 ай бұрын
​@@ancientpathstvI did. This is the biggest crap I've ever heard. You are twisting things and putting your trust in the "secret chamber" men who were really against Joseph. I could make my own videos and show all the errors of Joseph in your videos. Believe as you wish though. You have every right to produce lies if you wish.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 11 ай бұрын
@@SidJane10 These are the testimonies of members of the First Presidency and the original apostles. I encourage you to check them out for yourself. There is a public offer that if anyone can demonstrate a significant error of fact in our videos, we will pull them and issue a written apology to the LDS church. In hundreds of thousands of views the best anyone has come up with is that we said Utah made polygamy "legal," when technically it was "decriminalized." That's it. Far more important than all these, God bears you His testimony in the Bible that Joseph Smith was a false prophet. He proclaimed a different god and different gospel. The easy way to access our LDS videos is www.lds.video. I implore you to watch our other videos and test what we say. No one has anything to fear from the truth, but liars.
@russellnichols5746
@russellnichols5746 3 жыл бұрын
What a waste of time trying to "disprove" another's religion...
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 3 жыл бұрын
It hasn't been a waste of time to see people realize the Mormon church was lying to them. It hasn't been a waste of time when they report finding a Jesus in the Bible far more glorious than anything the Mormon church had ever taught them. It hasn't been a waste of time when they report freedom and forgiveness that allows them to live without a "Mormon mask." What seems like a waste of time to me is griping about someone answering the accusations of the Mormon church. It says all our professors are corrupt and all our creeds are an abomination in the sight of God. It used to try to back that up. Now if someone responds, it just plays the victim and makes statements like yours. The idea that all roads lead to heaven can't be found in the Bible. Jesus said the way is narrow and the gate is straight that leads to life; few find it. Ignoring what God says in the Bible isn't a mark of maturity, but rebellion. You call this a waste of time, but God bears you His testimony in the Bible that Joseph Smith was a false prophet who is leading people to outer darkness forever. We back up our claims, because we believe no one has anything to fear from the truth, but liars. If what we're saying is untrue, prove it. Life is short and eternity is long. I can't think of anything more important than being truly reconciled to God. Can you?
@russellnichols5746
@russellnichols5746 3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientpathstv If what I am saying is false, you prove it... You can't, and I call God to witness what I have said! You and all those like you will one day know the true and everlasting God of this earth and of the the universe! One day you will confess that Jesus is the Christ and Joseph was his prophet! All this time and effort to try to "prove" someone else's beliefs false is such a waste. You can't prove to me or anyone else anything! You know, what if I am right?... Where does that leave you?... What if Joseph really saw God the father and Jesus Christ?... What then...? He very well could have. Who are you to say he didn't?... Why would you deny the true revelation of God?...! Why wouldn't you want to know someone who has actually communed with God like Moses?... Face to face,... You can't prove that Joseph did not see God can you?... You can only reject his testimony because it puts your faith in jeopardy. Because of Joseph Smith I understand the true nature of God and our relationship to him. I respectfully say to you that you do not know or understand the God you worship. Joseph Smith did not understand God and that is precisely why he did as James directed, James 1:5 "if any of you lack wisdom let him ask of God, who giveth to all men liberally and upbraideth not and it shall be given him." I believe he had every right to ask God for understanding for which direction to go in his life. Joseph asked God Which Church to join. He didn't ask, "is their a true church in the world", he assumed one had to be, and he wanted to know which one. You see Joseph Smith was or liked the Methodist sect the most but was confused as to which church to join... Why?... Because they all taught conflicting doctrine and he reasoned he could not settle the argument as to weather who was right or wrong be appealing to the Bible. Why?... Because the different ministers and teachers interpreted the same passage of scripture so different that it destroyed all confidence in simply reading the Bible and getting his answers that way. When Joseph read James 1:5 he said that never did a scripture have more meaning than this did to him at this time. He was struck... This was the answer to his prayers. So he did as James directed and prayed with real faith and real intent on receiving an answer. As he tried to pray he was ceased upon by some unseen force that literally bound his tongue so that he could not speak!... For a time Joseph thought he would be destroyed... Then when he thought all was lost he saw a pillar of light directly over his head and it descended upon him until the light rested upon him. The light he thought was fire, for he said when the light rested on him yet nothing consumed... he thought it was a great fire. Then the heavens were opened for the first time in at least 1000 years Joseph heard a voice call him by name and pointed to the other saying "Joseph this is my beloved Son, Here Him"! This glorious event I can not deny. Why would I?... God the Father introducing His Son in the last dispensation of time. Giving Joseph the knowledge to restore those things in our Christian faith that have been lost or changed. The Truth about God and our relationship to him. This is glorious truth! I will shout it from the roof tops. You and all the powers of hell shall not make it otherwise! God has spoken to us again in these last days and those that reject that message are like those that say, a Bible, a Bible, we've got a Bible and there can't be any more Bible,... Who says God can't speak from the heavens? When and where did God say he would not speak to Man which he created? No my friend you prove to me that God could not and did not speak with a Prophet of God Named Joseph Smith. God has left evidence that he not only spoke to Joseph once but through him restored the gospel, the true gospel of Jesus Christ the One and only Son of God. God commanded Joseph to translate the record of the descendants of Lehi and also those of the brother of Jared. These writings were kept by Prophets of God on this the American Continent and compiled by the Prophet Mormon. This Book contains the everlasting gospel of Christ along with it's saving ordinances of baptism and receiving the Gift of the Holy Ghost. Also the Priesthood of God was restored through Joseph Smith, which authorizes those to preform those sacred ordinances. This book is proof of Joseph's divinity as a Prophet of God. To me it is more of a miracle to say Joseph Smith, by himself with no other help, with his face buried in a hat, with no other books, notes, or reference material dictated the Book of Mormon in 65 days with out any revision, at the age of 23-24yrs of age, with no formal education above the third grade. Then find someone that has enough money and convince them to mortgage their property to put up the money to have the fictional book printed. Than to say what he has said all along, that God commanded him to translate the golden plates, that Moroni, Mormons son delivered the plates to Smith and that Joseph translated them by the gift and power of God. Either way It's was a miraculous. I advise you to pray as Moroni directs and if you pray with real intent, having faith in Christ, he promises you will receive your answer to weather the Book of Mormon is true, by the power of the Holy Ghost and by the power of the Holy Ghost you may know the truth of all things. I add my testimony to Moroni's that if you truly seek and pray with real intent, God will manifest the truth to you just like He has to me. I believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God and that the true church of Christ has been restored to the earth through Joseph Smith and I leave you with this testimony in the Name of our Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 3 жыл бұрын
@@russellnichols5746 You started off by sneering at us, for answering when your church sends tens of thousands of missionaries door-to-door, trying to convince them that their churches are wrong. Now you're bearing your testimony. You refuse to test that testimony by the Bible. Instead, you demand we prove a negative, and you make gratuitous assertions. We've offered Scripture and history. You offer bluster. All your passion cannot negate what the Bible says. We've made our case in numerous videos at www.lds.video. I'm fairly confident you won't watch them, unless the Lord changes your heart, but I pray He will.
@jeremyshaw3846
@jeremyshaw3846 Жыл бұрын
Gotto Love Polygamy and Child Brides
@joecamel6196
@joecamel6196 Жыл бұрын
The voice of Brigham Young is rather throaty like, but more correctly would be Brigham Young's voice being squeaky to match his short dwarf like height.
@ldswife5339
@ldswife5339 3 жыл бұрын
This is alarming
@SusieQUnleashed
@SusieQUnleashed 3 жыл бұрын
so deceived
@bobdavis9727
@bobdavis9727 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! You exaggerate to agitate. Where should I begin... If you want assumed/self-anointed infallibility, follow a Pope (if you can stomach what comes along with him). Brother Brigham was brilliant in many ways. He never claimed to be perfect. The saints who studied, questioned, etc. his sayings and writing were the people transcribing, journaling, quoting him, etc. were not perfect either. (But fairness is not your goal, is it?) Following an imperfect profit is "that old-time religion" at its best because it takes faith, courage, etc. to follow a living oracle critics think is uneducated, etc. Cowards assssume the KJV or some other version is all that is needed in spite of what Bart Ehrman claims. Try harder or repent.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 2 жыл бұрын
If we were truly exaggerating, you could document it. Instead you just bluster. God bears you his testimony in the Bible that Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were false prophets and leading you to Outer Darkness forever. As to Ehrman, we're answered his lies, as well. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7NlqbR5rN3SoXU.html
@stephendavie1673
@stephendavie1673 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people have to tear down other religions whe you need to look within your self and be kind to all. The greatest commandment is to Love one another. I prayed about Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon is true, so far all the prophecy, warnings have come forth in our day. If it's not true then we will find out in final judgment. I know its true. I put my faith in The Lord hands not man. Peace and love.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
Your church says in its standard works that all other churches are wrong - - all our professors are corrupt and all our creeds are an abomination (Joseph Smith History -1). In the same section it specifically says "Presbyterianism is not true." We don't whine that you're "Presbyterian-bashers" or "anti-Presbyterians;" we're making truth claims and we back them up. Rather than try to back up its truth claims, LDS tell us "contention is of the devil" and call us "anti-Mormons" and "Mormon bashers." For all the games you may play, truth matters. God bears you His testimony in the Bible that your feelings are wrong; Joseph Smith was a false prophet who is leading you to Outer Darkness forever. Please watch our other free videos at www.lds.video. No one has anything to fear from the truth, but liars.
@tyronesmith9678
@tyronesmith9678 Жыл бұрын
@@ancientpathstv Funny how LDS always cry and cry and cry like that when they are always attacking others. Its astonishing.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
@@tyronesmith9678 LDS scriptures say, "Prebyterianism is not true" and call our creed an "abomination" in the sight of God, but then they complain if we respond. Check this out. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ht6hiZimr6jXnWw.html
@iowaguy6470
@iowaguy6470 Жыл бұрын
Evangelicals teach there's more than one Jesus which is why I left.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
I don't know who you're counting as "Evangelicals," but there's only one Jesus.
@iowaguy6470
@iowaguy6470 Жыл бұрын
@@ancientpathstv assembly of God, some Baptist and a couple non denominational. It's all heresy
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Жыл бұрын
@@iowaguy6470 If that's what they were teaching, it is heresy and not Evangelical. I encourage you to watch a couple of videos we've done you might find helpful. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZuFh6SlqdKUk3k.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNBoeruoks3Gl2Q.html
@lloveloveme2481
@lloveloveme2481 6 жыл бұрын
How can you be so wrong of the Living God. The Living Truth prophet on Earth. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints speak for itself. The only true church on Earth. I will defend and stand 4 the only true church.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 6 жыл бұрын
True by whose standard? A burning in your bosom doesn't make something true. The Bible and history testify that the LDS church is not true. Please watch our other free videos at www.lds.video.
@lucyramirez87
@lucyramirez87 5 жыл бұрын
The only true church is that which has been redeemed through Jesus Christ, who died and resurrected on the third day by the power of the Holy Spirit. Now when you say “the only true church” does this mean that the apostles and prophets of the Bible were excluded? Cause they weren’t LDS? Mormonism originated in the early 1800’s and the Apostles of the Bible were from the first century and there writings (Bible) have stood the test of time because it is the true inspiration of God’s given word to mankind. I choose to believe in the church that considers the Bible as the only source of guidance for ones life and also choose to believe that what is written therein is truly God’s inspired word.
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