I'll sure do

You are great, man! One of the most underratef channels of youtube, and the best one comcerning horror for sure

You truly make great content and your channel is underappreciated.

Excellent work. I love your analyses on horror films and literature. I look forward to part two.

Love the Channel

and who creates reality? we, horror people

@@flo84floflo84 I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean frankly... so I'm afraid I can't really provide with a response.

@@flo84floflo84 What are you talking about? lol. I can't understand your scattered statement.

@@dexterdextrow7248 Dexter I get the feeling it went right over her head lol. Very enlightening Dex. Would of been something if Gaines had said those words to that dense audience at the hearing.

👏👊✊ well said !!!!

EC horror comics of the 1950s were freaking great I can't believe what they got away with. Play eventually actually turned into Mad comics

@@peterhinkle6412 its crazy how themes found their audiences, didnt matter how. Nowadays, everything is so watered down and derivative, digital gatekeeping on and offline. This was a reminder of how it used to be. I miss those days. Well done video.

The Master Race story from 1955 is still studied today as a pinnacle of the form. EC were on another level.

Hard to believe that the hbo series is 25 yrs old too

They looked like they were from the Bronze Age at times

His wife is your mom right!??

also: never trust a politician name Estes

@@k.morningstar7983 you mean, never trust a politician!

True story.

Sugar, your name is so apt then. I want to see you now.

At the time, comics had a much broader appeal in general. Most genres like westerns and horror were still viable, largely because tv wasn't a taking over the entertainment market. That a large section of youth read them only increased the number that were statistically going to be socially unacceptable by the stringent standards of the time. Comics only really became a focus of nerd culture after the code, when only superhero works really survived because it was easier to divorce them from more salacious material and bind them to a moral message. It was only the nerds who could extract meaning and enjoyment from them because they have a particular tendency to adopt mythology, which was always an element of superheroes along with the appeal of the power fantasy. In sort, there were no particular comics nerds at the time. Those came after the code, explicitly because it gutted the market.

@@morganrobinson8042 Wow. This is well-reasoned. Nicely done.

Antifa?

@@GallowayJesse "Mostly peaceful protests."

now the gamers are the new menace of society

Virtue Signallers are very often scumbags.

Do as I say not what I do....

The seat of all modern SJW "Virtue Signalling". Ugly sociopaths weaponizing the dominant cultural norms to inflict harm on people they don't like.

It's a psychological defense mechanism called reaction formation.

...And the grand Demogorgon from which all comic books floweth, when you consider Max was the architect of the All In Color For A Dime CONCEPT as well as the agent provocateur in the purchase of most of the classic DC roster. Isn't it amazing how the rotters in our society also seem to be mass culture geniuses? There's very nearly a neat EC plot twist in which a purveyor of "cartoon books" (you know the kind!) Reforms and makes nice cute comics such as Wertham would have admired, only to have his fumbling, fatass son burn the entire industry down in one great blaze of Wagnerian glory.

I use to read these comics, I love,one about a vampire woman from a planet of people with water. that was blood in us but water to them, she was the only survivor of that planet that came to earth.

As someone half a century from you, it's very cool to hear your experience, especially from someone of your...(I'm a little high and trying not to disrespect you or sound sarcastic)... venerable years...presuming you'rrre telling the truth, of course. 👍

Lol to the part alot older than u.

No mention of Bram Stoker or Mary Shelley?

*The quote is actually "(Wertham) did a study that demonstrated that most of the kids in reform schools read comic books. So I said to him, 'If you do another survey, you'll find that most of the kids drink milk, too."

And Stan Lee was a Jew number did you know that?

That's what I was thinking as well. They probably read Shakespeare and Twain as well!

@@plaguedoctormasque8089 Of course he was Jewish as were a lot of early comics creators. Such as Joe Simon & Jack Kirby and Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster and Will Eisner & Harvey Kurtzman among many others.

And how many of them were wearing Jeans? Or eating hamburgers.

Captain Midnight,Fizz Pop and this guy are the triumvirate of old pulp and comics!

My sentiments exactly.

Cappptain MIDNIGHT!

Really good job! Takes me back.... I read 'em; I turned out alright!

The _5 Fold Understanding_ YT Channel did A micro doc Years ago about - The History of Horror Comics & _House of Mystrey._ His audio was scrambled upon upload. But it's Full of Intresting Notes & Solid imagery about DC Horror, Gothic Romance covers, the 70's industry & such (shows how Multiple _House of Mystrey_ Classic Comic covers actually connect to one another). He also notes how if you go to the Legit 'Comics Plus website'. You can Read OPEN DOMAIN Horror Comics *(Like EERIE)* in HD.

He’s republican, are you really that surprised?

He believed that all forms of violence, even as punishment, was harmful for children to see, so he was against superheroes too.

@@mackenziecarver6807 I'm a conservative and I love old horror comics; your article is invalid because it was Tipper Gore and her democrat "Mad Mom Squad" who was doing this in the '90s; it's the democrats who are out there trying to cancel everything they don't like. Grow up and realize that the left wing and the right wing are part of the same bird

@@farpointgamingdirect oh I’m fully aware that the left and right are one in the same. It’s why I don’t consider myself to be on either side. I’m a writer and I can’t stand being told what I can and cannot write

@@mackenziecarver6807 If you think the Left and the Right are one in the same...you're not paying attention and are a total moron. The Right are taking away people's rights, banning books, and want to force their Christian nationalism on us. Not to mention the fact that they are corporate-owned tools. The Left wants all people to be treated with dignity and respect. Which is why we support and fight for progressive policy. We also believe in freedom and democracy. That means we want a fair system and we want people to be allowed to do as they please, as long as they're not hurting anyone. Get it? Huge difference, huh?

I think it'll go away with a wall be perfect it'll go away I'm a stable genius I know what I'm talkin about is far harder to swallow than Hitler Hitler is dead he can't hurt anybody anymore but the orange fascist is alive and well until We get a hold of him

@@plaguedoctormasque8089 yep, and trump will be fondly remembered as a light preview of the horrid nightmare that will succeed Biden. Causes the Demo have learned no lessons.

@@plaguedoctormasque8089 judging by that nonsense you wrote, it's no wonder you're a leftist. Truth is we're going to add to that wall, Trump is getting his second term, and biden is going to prison with hilary not far behind Trump 2020🇺🇸 don't like it then gtfo sore losers

@@derealized797 Ooh, the projection. Triggered your orange puppet isn’t popular anymore, snowflake?

@@jacoblevenson7934 fine bend and spread its what Your best at.

I can't speak for homosexual man, but as a lesbian woman i can attest you that is the dream. But in all honesty this would be the asexual dream, maybe with more garlic bread.

@@ariaofdysphoria994 yeah, i as a fellow lesbian i agree

@@ariaofdysphoria994 As someone who surrounds myself in asexuals, I also agree.

😅

He really was an SJW of his time. Before calling me crazy look him up: he fought for minorities, for women, for kids... He genuinely thought he was fighting for justice. He thought he was his duty to make "lewd" comics disapper, exactly like SJWs of today think it's their duty to censor (or ban) lewd anime and Japanese videogames.

Same here!

Man never pulled punches.

He had to deal with censorship too.

I dont like how he sidelined the person who made Citizen Kane with him, but yeah here he is based.

I'm curious as to what it was 🤔 Probably hand-holding given the way he was banging on...

@@Jamie_Pritchard Well, at least it wasn't something TOO despicable, like ladies going around hatless in public.

@@toonbat The very thought! 😱

In the TV documentary, this Tail Gunner Joe lookalike goes on to stage a fake news 50s-style scene where a group of boys go on to torture one of their member with tropes supposedly learned from comic books they've just been reading. This climaxes with them placing sticks between the toes of the boy's stripped bare feet, which seems like something more likely learned during Billy's stint as a POW in North Korea than anything out of any comic book. Frankly, this scene is repugnant, suggests the imagination of an unspeakable sexual deviant, and provokes blowback thought as the documentary innocently introduces us to a whole other profitable new field...TELEVISED VIOLENCE.

@@toonbat or with their bare necks showing or heaven forbid...their ankles showing giving decent men unwholesome thoughts..oh I feel faint!!!

Sound like the kind of toxic person that only considers "high" art as true art. Good riddance I say.

Back when writing was invented, they said it would make the kids "lazy" not having to "keep everything in their heads"...

When bad parents leave their young kids alone on the internet and the kid clicks on a scary image and gets frightened instead of the parent accepting it was their fault for leaving the kid alone they blame the internet for having the scary image.

or the classic move of taking their kids to horror movies then demanding horror be banned as it was violent and "inappropriate" for their kids.. despite the films being rated for teens and up.

And sometimes mental disability's/ parents not knowing that every child is different and thus might have to be raised differently

That Guy Yeah I agree. I’m of the opinion that most mental illness is caused by child abuse and neglect but I also think that there are people who are just born broken.

You can find Old Nancy on Sirius XM's Classic Radio Shows station this Halloween.

I'll look for it thank you.

@@cha5 You can find alot on youtube, Weird Circle and the hall of fantasy are my favorites.

he started off as a hero and lived long enough to become proto Jack Thompson/Tipper Gore dude, can we focus on more important things, like the home lives of some of these kids? he sounds exactly like the reporters in the early 20th century were reporting on how men not wearing hats and women wearing pants were destroying society

@@k.morningstar7983 Why isn't he important?

@@TruculentSheep It's crazy because Wertham was actually doing good things before he began his crusade against comic books-he was running a low cost health clinic in Harlem and his writings on the brain were cited in brown v. board of education. He also psychoanalyzed the child killer and rapist Albert Fish.

I actually get how people in the industry didn't take him seriously, everything he said was so hilariously dumb how could they. They just didn't realise America was a fascist country back then, curtailing any rights the ruling class didn't like.

@@Barnesofthenorth You have no fucking clue what "fascist" is if you think the government making a law forcing comics to have a code, which did not effect more adult oriented magazines, constitutes the USA being one.

I see a Kouishou Rajio avatar I gotta say something

NattoSumi a kindred spirit

*Here.

I love this, very well said✨

To be fair, especially after suffering through the Satanic scare, Judith Reisman, Jack Thompson, ad. nauseam; keeping books behind the counter or restricting sale to at least 15 a la Wertham would have been a good compromise. The sense I get with these moral outrages is that once these things move out into the open, it becomes a part of the culture war and things can only get worse until the morally uptight die or lose prominence. They want a facade of the underground in A Boy and His Dog to project, and who are we to deny them? The trajectory has been towards a more permissive society, even with all their restrictions (I wonder what Tipper Gore thinks of Cannibal Corpse), and short of an outright ban, having sub-cultures move in parallel seems the best way to maintain autonomy with the least amount of friction. The interested (even under-age) will still find their way to the fringes, and the moral crusaders can maintain their illusion of a god-fearing country as the culture leaves them behind.

The people who try to get things censored or banned supposedly because they're unsuitable for kids really just want to get rid of them because they themselves don't like them and are using the kids as an excuse.

What lurks in the dark? Only what we carry with us...our fear hatred superstitions dark desires things that we keep locked away deep in our psyche...the monsters exist and they are us...

I've been watching a series on a gross transphobic book, about how trans boys are brainwashed girls; and watching this reminded me of that book, in essence adults decided they know what their kids think and don't bother listening to their kids. It's abuse

You got some good taste sir...

@@josephcontreras8930 Thank you. :)

Despite the creepy and often erotic covers of my most fave black n white inked comics of my youth.,ERRIE & CREEPY Mags..especially the awesomely great Vampirella and The Crypt Keeper..my mum did the same with me just to shut me up and keep me happy still..mum thought Vampirella was a tad far too sexy for a young lad,but,it was a comic afterall and it went on to inspire my passion for art,painting and drawing..of which led me art college learning of graphic illustration and portraiture..which is now my very own self employment bliss that I do every single day I breathe..and it pays the bills. No boss..no hours set..no executive wankers demanding artwork changes for advertising purposes..just good fellow humans who enjoy my mad scribbles and want to place the scribbles on the home walls or upon their teeshirts or anything they so choose. And all because a good mum thought a comic would bring her lad some fun..and some quiet an calm. Creepy comics..an comics in general..inspired my future life. Bless all good mums out there when they see that special gift in a child and then let the child run with it to where once only were dreams..then to become a blessed artistic future that forever continues to inspire. Thanks mum. ✊😊✌💕.. (/-\)..

@@shakesperezen6078 That's wonderful! Art is one of my passions, but I have very little talent, myself. But I certainly appreciate it in others and have studied it for much of my life. And yes - Bless all good mothers who encourage their children to follow their dreams. :)

@@curiousworld7912 The saving graces of all humankind be Mothers Sweet an Good and ever present in the lives of children who inherit their dreams from beloved ancestors ever so true. If only more would guide and inspire and lead with loves so ancient and simple that we all may yet live in a world where dreams and imaginations are fed and nourished well and shown light..instead of fears ridicule and darknesses. More of the human sweet beautiful good I say..more the much much better. ✊😊✌💕 (/-\)..and everyone has a art muse somewheres within..the creative spirit waits in quiet..tis only you that can give it the light it needs to thrive best my friend. Art,creative will,dreams and imagination..Its there..all..just listen for the whispers and it shall come..no matter it's form. For Talents are many,Dreams Aplenty and Imaginations can Soar High.

He wants to be Jack Black

Yes he does haha....I feel like that

He wrote joke books under the name “Jovial Bob Stine” before he wrote Goosebumps and teen horror novels.

It all goes back the old Pulp Magazines, baby. Cheap and eye-catching.

I think it was just "Tales from the Crypt" but I remember that cartoon! Kinda surprised it didn't come up

@@wychwoodmusic Close. 'Tales from the Crypt' was live action horror on HBO. It was an adult show. The children's cartoon was 'Tales from the Cryptkeeper'. I'm 100% certain, and it streams on the Roku channel.

Or roleplaying games. Mileage may vary depending on the parent in question

Everything was fine and dandy until them kids got hooked on them picture shows

men not wearing hats. the horror

That happened because of satanic rituals and rock music and Dungeons and Dragons, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z71nlpuCzM60qJ8.html

@@andrejaeckle9828 Hope that was a joke there for i don't find it funny

@@madmike131369 Y'all just find new things to blame on. After that Rock and roll, y'all blame dungeon and dragons. After that y'all blame horror movies like the exorcist. And then mortal kombat, doom, and video games in general.

@@derrilazkia1002 i know

@@madmike131369 you didn't sound so sure before

Is it available in comic form?? Where can I find it?

I have a poster for Gideon Falls, but I never checked it out. Just thought it was neat how the city looked like a head, and I found it in the trash. Gonna try to find the comic, finally, now that I've seen it recommended.

Harrow County

I know what you're saying. Thise human caterpillars panels reminded me of Junji Ito a LOT.

Absolutely. Some of his short stories are thematically very close to the EC comics. But I imagine that if he had publiciesd his works at that time (and in america), comics would have died out for good... or maybe not, idk

Right? I was thinking about it all throughout the video

Spirals 🤫😜

He had to write it

I was thinking the same thing, you’re a doctor! You supposedly diagnosed the illness but you don’t know what the cure or treatment is?

HAHAH good one, bro.

@свевский I just might be.

I also want to add, that whether you actually even intended it, your comment is one of the best comments I've ever seen about saying good things about this video

@@skerrkro2952 lmao

@@skerrkro2952 I also want to add, that wheter you actually even intended it, your comment is one of the best comments highlighting the original comment saying good things about this video

Those shows are shit. You have bad taste. They're ineptly created by bored people.

@@electrojones dude... Get a therapist,i know you probably hate your parents for abandoning you but that's not my problem.

@@christiangutierrez8841 oh come dude He Just has another opinion than you,No need to insult His parents.....

@@sd-wc9ep hey, that's more than a "different opinion". That was plain hatred from a frustrated and edgy excuse of an "adult".

@@christiangutierrez8841 everyone sucks here lmao he gave out an unasked for opinion which was extremely blunt and maybe insulting and you stooped down to his level by talking about his parents not loving him lmao what the fuck

Yeah but this was the 50s.Even now most homophobes believe homsexuality is a type of brainwashing

Not to mention that it's not something you teach to somebody. It's always been there, it's just how someone is. That's why it's called an awakening. XD

Im hetero, so idk, but im pretty sure you "know" you're homosexual before trying it out, I dont think you'd get into an intimate situation without feeling like it, unless you REALLY bottle up your sexuality

@@sudevsen Not alot of drag kids in the 50s?

Most homosexuals became that way through trauma, either turning them onto, or away from, things they would have, or not have, normally been interested in. I know 3 gay people, & this is the admitted case with all of them.

I get what you're saying, but there's a difference between blaming everything on comics and identifying comics as a bad influence.

@@nekroneschwartz2013 I would question even that they were a bad influence. I recall a friend of mine saying with utter horror that she came home early one day to find the baby-sitter was letting her kids watch ‘The Simpsons’. Gimme a break. My 2 kids were watching the Simpsons since they were able to sit up and they are now 2 well adjusted polite adults whose teachers loved them as they went through school. Kids from good homes with good examples and role models don’t turn into disrespectful brats because they laugh at Bart Simpson’s antics, nor do they turn into homicidal maniacs because they read horror comics. I grew up with ‘em and still love ‘em. Kids from bad homes with a propensity to violence with little empathy for others will act out even if they sit around watching ‘The Brady Bunch’ or ‘Full House’ re-runs.

@@nekroneschwartz2013 are books a bad influence really

Thanks!

Thank you I really appreciate it, part 2 is getting fairly close to being done I’m currently aiming at next Friday to release it.

as an anticomic book artist who grew up hating comic books, it was horrible to come back and remember them

My mom believed that my Yugioh cards would call Satan into our house so she threw them all away :(

@@IsaCaliBook fuck that's sad

My mom took away my Ultimate DOOM CD because the Columbine shooters were fans of the game

You know, there's a bit of hypocrisy in this video. He says it doesn't matter that kids read gory horror comics, but then he balks at parts like when the comic said the savages on the island in the Pacific needed to be wiped out so there would be peace.

@@GallowayJesse Same thing happened to me. Parents gifted me Doom II for my birthday, but shortly after Columbine, they forbid me from playing it. Thankfully, it didn't take too long before they calmed down and let me play again.

What good did he do? As far as I can see reading most of his stuff he was a pretty out of touch and depraved character himself...and to think such a person had so much power to exercise along the lines of his own prejudices and bias's...he ruined something that was not effecting anyone the way he saw it...all his evidence is warped and fabricated to match what he wanted...

I forget to mention that my parents believed everything that Wertham said.

Bless her heart! JUST like MY daughter! 😂😂😁 Didn't like ANYTHING spooky... When she was little, if she saw anything scary on tv, or in a magazine or book throughout the day,, she'd always make me come into her bedroom that night and sit beside her bed. Usually wanting me to place my hand on her head until she fell asleep (all the way up until she was about 10 or 11). Now she's almost grown, and I'm REALLY missing her needing me to be her protector against the "monsters" and "boogeymen"! lol

Wow that's real, I did the same thing when I was a little kid for the exact same reason. Except it was Hot Topic lol.

Well, there is a lot of heavy sexualization around Nightwing (adult robin), so I wouldn't be surprised

Grant Morrison describes it best. Batman as a concept is very gay in a non pejorative way. Just like Wonder Woman was very openly sexual and Superman was a hero for the working class (until the creators left and the character took a 180° turn). I love how returned these traits to the characters whenever he got to write them.

Whats wrong with that? Wait not for me but for that Batman guy and his need to endanger children to high flying acts and very small G-Strings.

Not gonna lie, I can see how Robin's outfit could be interpreted as homoerotic. Personally, I just find it hilarious.

I like snl superhero skit ambiguously gay duo with Gary and ace...😀