The greatest moment of anguish, from any character in the history of cinematography, has to be "Jason figured it out?!"
@auldthymer Жыл бұрын
When Eleanor says "Because I wanted that mom" caught me up short and made me cry.
@johannaelloso9418 Жыл бұрын
@@auldthymer That episode blew my mind so much and really sticks to the moral of the show: shitty people can change.
@bfish89ryuhayabusa Жыл бұрын
@@auldthymer what really hit me was seconds later. "That means she could change, and that... I wasn't worth changing for."
@MikeDCWeld Жыл бұрын
That one hurt.
@joelmanaussie Жыл бұрын
He actually did figure out it first. He said they were on a prank show early on in the show.
@keysburntgucci9016 Жыл бұрын
Even when Eleanor laid it all out and told the guys her epiphany, I was still skeptical, only until Michael laughed. That really changed things.
@irissupercoolsy Жыл бұрын
nah, i figured it out it would be the bad place before Eleonor did. It was kinda obvious, it was everything they didn't like
@PvblivsAelivs Жыл бұрын
@@irissupercoolsy Well, it's not like the twist was a new idea.
@keysburntgucci9016 Жыл бұрын
@@irissupercoolsy so what did you think Chidi did to go to the bad place
@irissupercoolsy Жыл бұрын
@@keysburntgucci9016 i didn't think that far, but I knew it must be the actual bad place
@keysburntgucci9016 Жыл бұрын
@@irissupercoolsy then let's say you had a strong hunch but you weren't 100% convinced
@stwbmc98 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always said one of the most impressive things about this show is its refusal to have a status quo
@hefoughtabear118 Жыл бұрын
Technically it does have a status quo it just changes every season.
@stwbmc98 Жыл бұрын
@@hefoughtabear118 Even within seasons it changes several times though. Things keep happening that change the entire trajectory. Season 3 is the best example. At first, the status quo is the humans learning to be better on Earth while Michael and Janet watch from afar. Then Michael and Janet get locked out of the afterlife and one of the demons shows up to drive a wedge between the humans. Then the humans find out about Michael and Janet and it ruins the experiment, and they decide to save other people instead. Then they uncover the fact that the points are rigged and have to convince the judge of this. Even at the very end, when it seems like a status quo for season 4 is being established, they throw in one more wrench by having Chidi wipe his memories. These changes happen so frequently that you can hardly call anything a status quo.
@hannahmiller4663 Жыл бұрын
There's no status quo except for one. The theme.
@20000dino Жыл бұрын
As someone who, whilst watching this show back in 2020, was going through an intense manic depressive episode, this is why it was such a hard thing to sit through. What I needed most in my life at the time was a semblance of status quo, of routine - and this existentialist show masquerading as a regular sitcom gave me everything but. Looking back, I can recognize how unique of a show this was for it. It’s a crucial aspect which sometimes works against it - but I don’t think I would want it any other way.
@devinkerr5474 Жыл бұрын
I originally wasn't big on the show and my wife got me into it, but hadn't seen past season 1, so we watched the first season together with her getting to see things I wouldn't notice yet, and then we reached this masterpiece together and it solidified it as one of my favorite shows
@vyt2622 Жыл бұрын
"They could have stretched this out and didn't" is a recurrent theme for the Good Place and something I truly appreciate about it. Season 2 is a big example of it, though I would argue the first big instance is when Eleanor reveals her identity in the mid-season finale of season 1. A different show would have made that the season finale. Mike Schur went "no, we all know it's inevitable she'll be found out, let's do it and move on". The show never lets itself stay in a known or predictable place for long.
@NrettG Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how Season 1 feels like it's going through the strokes as well. It follows almost a perfect formula of how a show like that would happen, just to flip it on it's head and defy almost everything. It's hard to get through Season 1 the first time through and it's a bold choice as well but that payoff just does not stop once you see it through.
@Elgsdyr Жыл бұрын
@@NrettG Yeah, I almost abandoned the show before that scene because I thought I had figured out the whole premise and wasn't too enamored about the idea of watching season after season of variations over the same concept. There are so many formulaic shows and movies these days so it was easy to believe a show, that initially presents itself with a formulaic premise, actually also is one. Luckily, this scene enticed me enough to finish the season and ultimately fall absolutely in love with the show.
@paulbraun4820 Жыл бұрын
Listen to the podcast. Mike Schur says, on multiple episodes, that a main story goal for them was "beat the audience to the punch" and "get to it sooner than later". I feel like they did a good job at that.
@staceynainlab8882 ай бұрын
there is always big turning point every mid season episode and every season finale. mid-season one- Eleanor turning herself in. End of season one- finding out they were in the bad place all along and getting reset. mid-season 2- the town being demolished. end of season two, going back to earth. mid season three- they die again and Micheal finds out that nobody is getting into the good place. end of season 3- new experiment begins and Chidi loses his memory. mid season four- the experiment ends. end of season four- the door to end their existence. come to think of it, there's also usually a turning point around three episodes into the season. season one-Jason revealing himself to Elanor. season two- the group teaming up with Micheal. season three- the group fining out about the afterlife.
@yourfavoritebubbe7444 Жыл бұрын
This show could have easily had 7-8 seasons but it didn’t and that’s what makes it amazing. It never over stayed its welcome and I really appreciate that
@sixoffcenter80 Жыл бұрын
I have wondered how it would have worked if they went for a 5th season. stretching the actual good place out to fill it. Ultimately it might have been better to wrap that up in two episodes though.
@everythingisawesome2903 Жыл бұрын
I love 'The Good Place' and it's one of my favourite shows of all time but I still think this show should have ended after Season 2 cause that was really an perfect series finale. I still enjoyed the later seasons, though.
@capn_toad Жыл бұрын
@@everythingisawesome2903 While it COULD have ended there, I truly do believe that seasons 3 and 4 are necessary to complete the character arcs and truly explore the philosophy of the show.
@lytsedraak Жыл бұрын
I love that about The Good Place. So many shows start out good, but they go on and stretch plots to a point where I lose interest.
@jonmayer Жыл бұрын
I think they ended it perfectly though. In the end, you feel like you didn't need more because it was time to just accept nothing more.
@AgusSkywalker Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's still crazy to me how this show starts radically changing its main premise every 4 to 6 episodes starting with season 2. If you want to describe the show to a new person you can only describe the premise of the first episode, you can't get into the ways the show evolves later.
@JNDReacts Жыл бұрын
Exactly! You can’t even mention that it includes one of (if not the) biggest twists of all time because then the person you’re recommending it to will be on the lookout! Really the best way to sell it is the first episode premise, Ted Danson and Kristen Bell, and Michael Schur’s resume.
@bumbobaggins Жыл бұрын
A group of people navigating the afterlife.
@RHKang-hl3ps Жыл бұрын
I say it's about learning to be a good person lol
@pattheplanter Жыл бұрын
@@RHKang-hl3ps I just say it is a sitcom about the philosophy of ethics.
@liesbethverlaeckt8083 Жыл бұрын
THIS"! I've had such trouble trying to get people to watch the show because I can only describe the first season and then tell them it gets better. But usually they're like 'I dunno, it doesn't sound like my cup of tea' and I'm just left sitting there like NO IT'S REALLY GOOD THERE'S JUST A LOT OF TWISTS
@BlueBeetle1939 Жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite episode is the one where they go to the bad place proper for the first time and Tahani does an American accent the whole time it's so funny
@DezMarivette Жыл бұрын
Rhonda Mumps is a treasure. She once raw dogged the great John Wayne himself 😌👌🏼
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 Жыл бұрын
And she name drops John Wayne, then Eleanor says, *"Wow, Tahani even name drops in hell."* 😆 🤣 😂
@xavierplymptonstongue54 Жыл бұрын
Rhonda 😂
@idlegameplayer37563 ай бұрын
that episode is easily top 5
@engineer-of-souls Жыл бұрын
For me the episode that changed everything was S1E7 when Eleanor admits being in the "Good Place" by mistake. A lesser show could have milked the idea of Eleanor hiding for couple of seasons easily, but here it happens halfway of the first! It turned a series I enjoyed good enough to a great one, one I could trust to not be afraid to make big swings.
@rachelripstra1839 Жыл бұрын
At that point, I knew the writers had their foot to the floor, but I don't think just how fast they wanted to go was clear until S2E1. Man, what a great show.
@JAZZYMETALSONIC Жыл бұрын
I heard somewhere that they specifically wanted to write it in a way that the plot keeps moving on / finishing conflicts and starting new stuff before the viewer expects it and honestly? They did forking* great because that's exactly how this show felt
@growingupwithdisney Жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought the video was gonna be about. I also think making Eleanor be the one to admit it rather than just getting caught also plays into what the show is all about
@Elgsdyr Жыл бұрын
That was the moment where I went from thinking I had the whole premise figured out and seriously considering abandoning it, to feeling it suddenly started to get interesting. Of course, the finale blew me away and I was forever hooked.
@harrisont2004 Жыл бұрын
@@rachelripstra1839Same! I was so skeptical with this show because I thought it’d get repetitive and milk the concept. Instead it rocketed forwards when we least expected it. So good!
@coolboss999 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I didn't even expect that plot twist. I never knew a sitcom could do that 💀
@cherchehacknostale Жыл бұрын
ME TOO ! The ending was even worse. I cried like a baby and was thinking what forking journey did I take ?? I wanted some good laugh about a girl being in heaven stealing a saint's spot and fooling every one. Not having that life crisis about wanting to die in heaven 😭
@Conor_Tuohy Жыл бұрын
A great observation. Also, S2 Ep1is probably the strongest episode in the whole show... and probably also one of the most expensive to have made, with all of the 5 second throw away moments.
@JNDReacts Жыл бұрын
At least they got a chance to reuse the hideous striped outfits! During the second episode of the podcast they had the costume designer on as one of the guests and she talked about how they had to have that fabric custom-made and then make each one of the outfits!
@wvu05 Жыл бұрын
The sound of utter defeat when Jason figures it out is priceless.
@JNDReacts Жыл бұрын
@@wvu05 I think that was actually episode 2 or 3, depending on how you count the long episode. Anyway, the one titled Dance Dance Resolution.
@wvu05 Жыл бұрын
@@JNDReacts Oh, okay. I couldn't remember the specific episode, but my favorite one was definitely when he figured it out and Michael seemed to take it as a personal insult.
@NrettG Жыл бұрын
Dude it's one of my favorite episode of television out there. The idea of Season 1 being a slog just for them to go "Yeah that's the point, here's the other attempts" was genius.
@edrift3d Жыл бұрын
I’ve always felt that one of the biggest moments in the show was at the end of ep 24 when they’re trying to escape through the portals to go see the judge and Michael is short one pin. When he decides to send Eleanor and says he figured out the trolley problem. I’ve always felt that moment was huge because we see Micheal truly start to become human as he sacrifices himself to save the others. Gets me every time.
@M.W.2 Жыл бұрын
I love this, Michael Shur showed that shooting an entire season only after you have wrote the next one allows to absolutely wild plot progressions without milking them for an entire season just to fill your paycheck while you try to figure out the rest of the shoe on the spot. It's revolutionary for the entire industry
@TheNoiseySpectator11 ай бұрын
No, he showed that is _possible_ to make up a great show from season to season. Usually it is a _terrible_ idea. Look at how Mork and Mindy ended, or Happy Days, or "LOST" or Ronald D. Moore's version of "Battlestar Galactica."
@DezMarivette Жыл бұрын
Personally I wish more people talked about S1E10 - Janet and Jason get married, Eleanor and Tahani bond, but most importantly - it’s the first time Eleanor realizes she’s in love. She’s an adorable goofball in her confession and it never gets referenced again. Even in later seasons when Eleanore finds out they got together in past reboots, she never gets to see the first time it happened. We do. So pure ❤️
@growingupwithdisney Жыл бұрын
I think they don’t reference it to show that they actually can be platonic. I feel like they genuinely were just friends in season 1, but season 2 is when things changed
@stevec6002 Жыл бұрын
Yes she does. Michael gave them all their memories back.
@RayofMurr Жыл бұрын
So S2E4 and 6 both let her see herself falling in love.
@platoniczombie3 ай бұрын
Who's to say that actually was the first time? What if Michael was also rebooted along with everyone else?
@hannarfp Жыл бұрын
it's cool how many times the direction of the show changes, first its the s1 plot of eleanor trying to pretend that she belongs in the good place, then its what you described in this video of the gang getting rebooted a discovering over and over again that they're in the bad place, then it's about the gang trying to pretend they're being tortured to keep michael's job and keep them out of the normal bad place, then it's about michael and the gang's quest to make it to the actual good place, then about the gang living on earth again trying to be better people and gain enough points to make it to the good place, then it's them trying to reform the broken points system through an experiment by recreating the s1 bad place with new people, then it's about them creating a new afterlife system while finally living in the good place, then it ends with them fixing the good place by creating an end to it. it's like 8 shows all wrapped into one and you never could have guessed the direction it would take next
@sirplayalot Жыл бұрын
And it never really feels unnatural or uncanny... like all plots are very finely welded together
@staceynainlab8882 ай бұрын
I had non idea what to expect form the finale until the episode right before it
@rachit1042 Жыл бұрын
I never thought a sitcom could do such a mind-blowing twist in such a perfect way. This show is something else. ❤❤
@TheNoiseySpectator11 ай бұрын
But, this was not a Sitcom. One of the most important characteristics of a Sitcom is that the goal of the protagonists is to return to the point where they started, and return everything to normal, not for the characters to change and the setting to change. Every season of "The Good Place" ended with the main characters having changed from when the season began. 💡 👏👏👏👏
@potterpotty01 Жыл бұрын
yes this episode was when it really clicked for me, specifically Ted Danson was brilliant in this episode "Jason figured it out. Jason! oh yeah this is a new low"
@ilianamedina903 Жыл бұрын
I only watched the first season because I had nothing else to do over Summer Break and BAM, one of the best shows hands down. Excellent writing from start to what is in my opiniom, best series finale!
@itsmeike Жыл бұрын
This is a show that did exactly what it intended to, then ended when it was ready. A lot of shows could learn from that
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Another show that ended when it was ready was Schitt’s Creek. I would love to have more of it, but it did what it meant to do and ended on a high note. I think it’s always a sign of a great series when you wish it wasn’t over.
@mylesleggette7520 Жыл бұрын
Eh, the whole Earth resetting arc added nothing, if you ask me. I would much rather they skipped that drivel and spent enough time in the Good Place to find an actual resolution to the show's final unanswered question. The route they chose made the whole concept of the afterlife moot, which raised the question of why do any of it at all?
@Cloverfr Жыл бұрын
It truly lived to it's last season message.
@loreleimonn3220 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I didn’t want to watch the show bc from every trailer I saw, I was like “that sounds more like Hell than Heaven tbh”, and then I heard that that was in fact the twist, and I immediately loved that a show was willing to do that, so I sat down and watched it, and now I love the show so much
@JNDReacts Жыл бұрын
I recently tried to convince my parents to watch the show (they tried back when it was first airing but gave up after a few episodes) and even spoiled the twist, but they still refused. I’m glad that it convinced you!
@loreleimonn3220 Жыл бұрын
@@JNDReacts damn. Honestly, it’s an incredibly underrated show. Sadly a lot of people seem to have kinda just written it off
@mylesleggette7520 Жыл бұрын
@@loreleimonn3220 The ending really ruined it for me. I always found it hard to imagine how they would manage to combine the concepts of human growth and change with the concept of an eternal afterlife, but was enjoying everything they were doing so far that I just went with it. But when I got to the end and found out they couldn't come up with a way to do it and just gave up with that lame cop-out ("let's just have people die in the afterlife too!") I was so disappointed that I haven't once felt compelled to rewatch a single episode. Sad really, it was a great show with great performances.
@loreleimonn3220 Жыл бұрын
@@mylesleggette7520 I disagree tbh. I think it’s the inevitable conclusion. The point is that death is a necessary part of human change. Essentially, the afterlife becomes a place where one can achieve the actualization you wish without a ticking clock looming over you. You can finally pursue all that your heart desires, and then, when you’ve done so, you can end. I think it’s a perfect ending for the show’s ideas tbh
@rachelmp2401 Жыл бұрын
@@mylesleggette7520 what would you rather have the ending be?
@Ceares Жыл бұрын
As tv addict for 45 years, I can honestly say the Good Place is one of the most well written, creative pieces of art I've ever seen on my tv screen. It deserves a spot with the all time great sitcoms and I hope it becomes a classic.
@RKC-1234 Жыл бұрын
I remember being shocked at how they burned through potential plot that first ep of S2! Made me nervous. Loved his frustration when JASON guessed!
@cherchehacknostale Жыл бұрын
Me toooo
@ThePonderer Жыл бұрын
This show really does spend its whole run priming your for how fleeting the dynamics you take for granted are.
@HarvestLockwood Жыл бұрын
I had a blast watching this show, and then sobbed like a baby watching the final episode. My sudden emotional reaction to it came out of left field for me; I just realized while I was sitting there that it was over, and it hit me like a ton of bricks.
@AlanFehr Жыл бұрын
I sobbed for an hour after it was done. It was the last show my wife and I "enjoyed together" before we separated. The ending of the show was (still is) such a devastating metaphor for our marriage. It sucks being Chidi. It's so hard to be the one saying, "I love you, but I know that it's time to go." What's worse, she didn't understand why the show's ending hit me so hard, and I couldn't tell her. Just a gut-wrenching time.
@chateaudisco14367 ай бұрын
Oh yeah - during Melbourne’s looooooong Covid lockdown I went down the good place rabbit hole with my wife and 2 young daughters - final ep; we wept together for an hour, sometimes stopping to giggle, blow our noses then back to sobbing… not exactly tears of devastation, more like after an intense philosophical awakening
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 Жыл бұрын
Please, PLEASE do more videos on *The Good Place!!!!* It was definitely one of the greatest shows of all time. Nothing wasted. Perfectly acted, written, and directed.
@cashmerenerd Жыл бұрын
this show (and particularly michael) is so important to me. part of it is i think luck, mike schur's idea of what an actual good place would be matches up with mine pretty much exactly, so it really-really worked for me, and michael's story is so beautiful and perfect and i love him so much. it's especially interesting now that i'm rewatching parks & rec, because i truly think this is mike schur's leftmost show. not just because they say "everything goes to the bad place because of capitalism", but immoral beings cannot create an afterlife for humans, because they fundamentally don't understand humanity - this sounds like the 1% to me.
@RetroPotato11 ай бұрын
I loved that how Tahani changed from her single-focus-of-life (as in overshining Kamilah) she eventually was able to focus on literally everyone else - and that made her stay in afterlife rather than walking through that arch. its the best show out there and forever will be.
@abigfavor Жыл бұрын
The most interesting question the show posed to me was about Michael (a demon) wanting to be a good human. It reminded me of Star Trek, where you have androids, aliens, and technology that don't exist to reframe these questions
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
Really good observation!
@kvoltti Жыл бұрын
Ted Danson had three great revel moments. The First season reveal. The gang under the train reveal and the one where he solves the trolly problem.
@Xcandescet Жыл бұрын
I know plenty of people who have a show that they can rewatch over and over. The Good Place is that show for me. I love finding new KZfaq first watch channels and seeing their reaction to the entire series - what they figure out when, who their favorite characters are, and general commentary as they move along through the show's many stages. Thanks for creating content on it. I love identifying new layers of this fantastic and delicious onion of a show.
@davidmcleod5133 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite joys in all of existence is watching a reactor scoff and make fun of Eleanor when she says, “THIS is the Bad Place”… then seeing their faces contort and twist in confusion as the camera zooms in on Michael’s laugh. That pure, uncut, unadulterated “…wha???” they have…. *chef’s kiss*
@madisonresnick600 Жыл бұрын
yes! rewatching this show never gets old because it’s so dynamic and fun!!
@lauroralei Жыл бұрын
Definitely. Season 1 was great. The refusal to play into everyone's expectations for season 2 was genius. I was hooked so hard and then the entire show kept changing until the most stunning beautiful cathartic finale. Incredible.
@kevinredding5804 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. I was also expecting that Season 2 was going to be a different version of Season 1. And then when it didn't, I was surprised. But then the episode 2 really made me blink, do a double take..."where the heck are they going with this??" I LOVE that! It is so rare that a show really surprises us like the Good Place did. And then they just kept doing it again and again... I never knew what was going to happen next... I loved that show.
@voldlifilm Жыл бұрын
What makes the Good Place so fantastic is that it embraces impermanence and endings in a popculture that has become obsessed with infinite shared universes. Star Wars, Star Trek or the various superhero universes aren't allowed to end, so they become these shapeless patternless patterns. Just noise where the sound have might, and might have once been, music. By embracing impermanence fearlessly by rushing through what lesser creators could have milked for years the Good Place became an antithesis to mainstream popculture. it's why it had to end the way it did, because anything else would have been hypocrisy. A stumble at the finish line.
@ktburger659 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@tomlewis4205 Жыл бұрын
❤
@acumbess Жыл бұрын
The good place is one of the best shows ever made. And I don't know that we would still be talking about it if it went the route of "see how different it is this time, how will they figure it out?" Every episode or season. It keeps reinventing itself which is why it's so great (plus the awesome writing😂)
@auldthymer Жыл бұрын
Holy Shirt! You're right. They could have made into Gilligan's Island -- great show, buy it never made me cry. The choice to aim bigger was awesome.
@Elgsdyr Жыл бұрын
While I agree that it's a big part of what makes it great and stand out in the massive ocean of formulaic shows and movies, it could very well have gone terribly wrong and ended in an incoherent "anything goes" type of scenario. It's a massive credit to the skills of the writers that they managed to pull it off so amazingly well as they did.
@Gab19 Жыл бұрын
It’s fascinating how characters changed so much and yet kept some level of essence all throughout the show
@JNDReacts Жыл бұрын
1:50 Ok, before I go further in the video I’m gonna guess which episode you’re referring to. Season 3 Episode 10 “Janet(s)” where we learn that no one has gotten into the Good Place in 521 years. I’ve been watching KZfaq reactions to The Good Place recently, and every time one of them guesses someone recent who’s in the Good Place I just smirk like Season 1 finale MIchael and say, “Just you wait.” Like when I first started watching reactions I genuinely forgot how late in the series we find out that information because it’s one of the things about the show that just stuck with me. Particularly the scene from a later episode where the Judge learns how buying a tomato on Earth loses points. We learn that it actually was the almond milk all along!
@JNDReacts Жыл бұрын
1:59 Ah, well, that one’s good too!
@NrettG Жыл бұрын
I love that judge tomato episode as well. It's such a huge sucker punch that it opens your mind to "Oh shit, yeah that really is bad". Beforehand she sounded arrogant and still somewhat knowledgeable but just buying a fruit? Damn.
@Elgsdyr Жыл бұрын
What's even more mind-blowing about this revelation is that the logical conclusion must be that Mindy Saint-Claire is actually the best scoring person in all of those 521 years. I find that immensely hilarious. :D
@JNDReacts Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad a friend of mine convinced me to finish season 1 before season 2 started, and that I somehow managed to avoid having the season 1 finale spoiled! They asked if I watched the show and I told them I’d seen like half of the first season. All they said was that I needed to finish the season and that I wouldn’t be disappointed, and they were right!
@sennacookie5043 Жыл бұрын
I've always been almost hesitant to even call this show a SitCom, because I always thought that they were supposed to return to some kind of status quo. With pretty much all sitcoms I've ever watched, most people can usually jump into some season 3 episode and get the gist in a few minutes, while with this show you'd be absolutely lost. Season one is a bit like this, like you said. It's almost like they made a sitcom for one season and after that decided to create a whole different kind of show with only some remains of the genre in it. It's fuckin awesome
@papa-rounch9946 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people I know thought it was too rushed but I thought it was paced beautifully and never overstayed. A very fun watch in my opinion would love to see the longer video on it.
@hissingwillows668 Жыл бұрын
S1 finale was such a huge reveal and probably the most enjoyable plot twist out of any show at the time I had been watching but I was kind of wary when they reset the memory because I wasn't sure how they were supposed to follow the twist, especially since the characters were wiped clean. It was so important for s2 e1 to acknowledge and then totally toss out the "and then we inch along" plot like you mentioned other sitcoms do, or it would've been so stale. the good place was so unexpectedly creative and emotional for what could've been such a basic sitcom and I love it so much
@TheFiteShow Жыл бұрын
i cant believe the entire show wasnt planned from the start, it felt so perfect
@tasmiatahia_write_dream_change Жыл бұрын
The start of Season 2 is my absolute favourite part of the show, and I'm so glad to see this brilliance being recognised. I'd have loved to watch every one of the reboots but Eleanor saying "hang on/wait a minute/ you know what/holy smokes - this is the bad place" is legit the best part of the show for me. While season 1 was fun, season 2 takes us on a much more exciting ride, getting deeper and closer to the philosophy of the show
@pintpullinggeek Жыл бұрын
7:33 I don't even need to hear the dialogue to have the tears start coming.
@PaulRWorthington Жыл бұрын
TGP was such an amazing show. Thanks for this essay.
@lyricbot8513 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of your recent ananlysis of community- shows which commit to jumping the shark and reinventing thenselves will not only avoid becoing stale, but will avoid alienating their viewers, and ultimately end up with something more rewarding. Thanks for the essay!
@FutureDeep Жыл бұрын
I rewatch The Good Place from start to finish every now and then. Jeremy Bearimy, baby.
@damienkakoschke3099 Жыл бұрын
Agree completely. Looooved The Good Place. That every season was different from the season before, yet still felt true to it's creative core was one of the things that made so wonderful & unique. And yes the 2 episodes you highlighted, the finale of season 1 and it's reveal (that was such an OMG! moment, glad you put the spoiler at the beginning because anyone who's going to watch this show needs to experience that reveal completely fresh), and the first episode of season2 where we revisit the subsequent attempts to reset & each time the same thing happens, brilliant concept. Thanks for reminding me how much I loved this show & everyone in it.
@tobesleroney8696 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I remember being absolutely floored at the beginning of season 2 when the show didn't just cycle a different story with the same outcome for the entire duration of the season. It hadn't occurred to me that there was any other route this story could take.
@Imserious184 Жыл бұрын
The good place isn't just a series, it's art.
@octosalias5785 Жыл бұрын
And HUNDREDS of years take place in one or two episodes. I do wish they slowed down a little during either the reincarnation arc or after Chidi gets back because it feels so fast and then we are at the end
@ebrowne72 Жыл бұрын
The episode that changed everything was S1E7, where Eleanor admits that she shouldn't be in the Good Place. You talk about what the show was at the start, and the entire show could have been just Eleanor trying to evade Michael. This episode is the one that broke the mold, that announced that this show was going to be different. I remember being astonished at what Eleanor did.
@M.W.2 Жыл бұрын
We need more good place videos, someone as versed in writing as you can definitely explain a lot more of what we understood from just watching the show
@davidmcleod5133 Жыл бұрын
Your points about what makes S2E1 so great, so groundbreaking, are also what makes it SO HARD for me to unconditionally recommend this show to everyone. I try to let people know that season one is essentially prologue, that it doesn’t hit its stride until season two. People are used to hearing, “Give it three or four episodes before making up your mind or quitting”… not “Commit to a whole season before making up your mind.”
@anone.mousse674 Жыл бұрын
Way to demolish MY expectations with a legit banger of a video today of all days
@elytra404 Жыл бұрын
to be honest, the scenes that stuck with me the most where eleanor's "i wanted that mom" speech and chidi's "waves return to the ocean" speech. neither where big reveals, neither where big moments. but holy s$!t, they stuck with me. both sound like they where written by someone throwing down all of the trauma, their feelings, their entire soul. and it hits so hard.
@pointnclick22 Жыл бұрын
This show felt like a thought experiment put to television and that is what made me fall in love with it. The conclusion of the thought experiment was so human as well. We all feel like this life wont be enough for us but in truth i feel like in the end we all decide it was. A true masterpiece of a show in my opinion.
@PillarofGarbage Жыл бұрын
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@JasonTorpy Жыл бұрын
do a review like this on the reveal that no one goes to the good place. shows that afterlife is messed up (which closes plot holes) and gives a more epic quest for characters to solve the afterlife.
@PlzStndBi Жыл бұрын
Hey, i was wondering how you do get the footage for you videos to edit with? how does it avoid copy right? - im just starting out on YT and im not sure of a clear way to do it that's fair/legal
@PillarofGarbage Жыл бұрын
@@PlzStndBi I mostly use OBS to record from streaming platforms (you gotta use Firefox - platforms like Chrome automatically block screen recording on streamers) re: avoiding copyright claims, the best way is to make sure you're never using more than 9 seconds of consecutive footage. Sorry for the late reply, and I hope this helps!
@PlzStndBi Жыл бұрын
@@PillarofGarbage nw, thank you very much!! hoping to make similar vids of my own just for fun. Loving the channel btw!!
@PillarofGarbage Жыл бұрын
@@PlzStndBi best of luck!
@thisurldoesnotexist Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more videos about this show, I just finished rewatching it for the fourth time
@peytonpalmour5368 Жыл бұрын
What a good video. I remember when I watched the second season, wondering what they were going to do. And the revelation and then list of resets really blew my mind. Where the Good Place goes is kind up surprising if you only know the first season, but it's also has such a clear path!!!
@lolifred8289 Жыл бұрын
Micheal´s casting choice is truly a stroke of genius
@kaptenteo Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best TV shows ever made. The writing is genius throughout and the comedy style is right up my alley, while many more dramatic scenes made me cry.
@nadiakent4082 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen all seasons of the show four times. Every year or two I end up binging it again. It’s like a course on practical moral philosophy yet somehow made it fascinating. No other show like it.
@ImekaSF Жыл бұрын
YES. Season 2 was when I really fell in love with this show. Spot on video.
@cb034 Жыл бұрын
Michael's s1 Finale laugh is music to my ears
@CapnSnackbeard Жыл бұрын
I appreciated that they did this so much. I was excited for season 2 when I thought I knew where it was going. Then it got 10x better.
@limeycheesehead97 Жыл бұрын
The Good Place deserves as much in-depth analysis as you are capable of. It's one of the best shows ever!
@TSDTalks22 Жыл бұрын
Still one of the best twists I’ve ever seen in a show
@newthejsterjacob408 Жыл бұрын
Please bless me with the big chonker video. Btw your previous video got me to rewatch the show and I’m already on season 3😅
@PillarofGarbage Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, good going!
@summersevening Жыл бұрын
Love this - captures exactly what made this show special. And yes, please do the in-depth video, can’t wait to see that
@mlucasl Жыл бұрын
The episode that changes everything is S2 E2, when the alliance is formed. Also, it has the best joke of the whole series. "Even Jason figure it out".
@doineedanid Жыл бұрын
ill watch any good place video essay honestly
@therealtosis Жыл бұрын
Dance Dance Resolution is definitely the episode I've watched the most, dozens of times, and it is so defining of The Good Place and just a unique and super fun episode in all of TV show history!
@kingflumph5968 Жыл бұрын
I started the good place right when the first season released, and it took me some years to finally finish. Watching Ted Danson laugh evilly still gets me every time. I love the whole show though! I was ugly crying all through the final episode.
@KamilDevonish Жыл бұрын
Had the same feeling with the first season of Homeland. The cat and mouse game of Brody and Carrie after she learns the truth could have been an entire series. Instead they throw all of it in the trash, and turn the show into The Fugitive. So unexpected and refreshing.
@hoobslice11 ай бұрын
It was this moment that I saw on twitter and it got me to watch the show - which I’m so grateful for. I wish I went into it without knowing this happened, but I’m still happy I watched it regardless.
@donearl77 Жыл бұрын
I remember having the same thought while watching the start of season 2. The show just kept rebooting itself so fast! I couldn't believe how often they decided to jump ahead. It really kept me engaged and so excited to see what they would do next. LOVE this show.
@Bethgael6 ай бұрын
The best part about this reveal is that, right up until just before this scene was filmed, only Ted Danson and Kristin Bell knew this. The other 4 actors had no idea.
@akashita Жыл бұрын
Great video! I've seen so many of your earlier vids that I am pleasantly surprised to see that Patreon list is so much longer now. I'm unfortunately not in the position to contribute there, so I'm dropping this comment for the algorithm. Definitely looking forward to more Good Place videos!
@jeremyusreevu237 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis, POG. As a massive Good Place fan, a lot of what you're saying makes complete sense. Also, the part where Jason figures it out is legit hilarious!
@86hardluck11 ай бұрын
It's my contention that The Good Place is the perfect show. Four seasons, tight, no extraneous fluff, no bad shows and it arrives where it wants to and ends on the right note. I've binge watched the entire series at least 3 times since the first new episode airings were watched.
@viniciuslucke6757 Жыл бұрын
To me the most powerful, most enlightening twist was finding out that no one has been admitted to the good place in a long time because there's no ethical consumption under capitalism.
@doeknows27 күн бұрын
In all my years watching sitcoms, this is the one that actually got me. this reveal was so insane. 10/10
@gregc8831 Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks! I felt like the "no one gets in anymore" was also an amazing twist.
@darrenskjoelsvold Жыл бұрын
Still my favorite line is "Jason figured it out?" And Michael just gets so dejected it's fantastic.
@cisalzlman Жыл бұрын
Its interesting how much you bring up Schur here as o always felt that the whole fake good place was a bit of meta commentary on tv writing itself with Micheal as the showrinner (and late Eleanor I guess)
@aliabdallah102 Жыл бұрын
Mine’s when Chidi said “it’s Anagonyen time” and and Anagonye’d all over the room and then shawn said “hehoo peanut”
@adgreenfield Жыл бұрын
More Good Place content is always beloved!
@quickfrog57 Жыл бұрын
I honestly never considered this perspective before, that it was possible that they would just go slow with reboot 2 (or 3 for that matter). I did watch the beginning of season 2 minutes after finishing season 1 on netflix, so I don't know that I had time to consider that possibility. But it feels so natural that everything just begins going off the rails in the beginning of season 2, it works so well. Please start working on that big chonker, I love Good Place content. One of my top 3 shows of all time, and #1 comedy.
@0PlaylistMaker0 Жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes yes. Love this pair of episodes and couldn't agree more.
@christinavanbeek Жыл бұрын
I'm loving the Good Place content!
@seatheparade Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is why I love the Good Place and think it's the best sitcom (if it qualifies as one, some contest this). It's genuinely groundbreaking and I hope more shows dare to do the same!!
@andrewdunn8778 Жыл бұрын
One thing that changes everything for the characters we already know, in a way that lot of people seem not to address when they discuss it, is the reveal that literally no one has gotten to the good place to since about 1492 AD. A lot of fans learn that but maintain the idea that the original four still deserved to go to the Bad Place. But everything we know about the moral system is based on what Michael told them in the first couple of seasons, but we've learned that Michael didn't actually know any of this and he was either making it up as torture or was mistaken, as he didn't know there were issues with the points system. For all we know, correctly calculated, Chidi and Tahani deserved to go to the Good Place for their theoretical and practical contributions to society. The idea that Chidi made people so miserable he went to the Bad Place, or the idea that Tahani was so selfishly motivated that she went to the Bad Place, has no basis after that reveal.
@w1ll1amtv Жыл бұрын
Time to rewatch this show again :)
@scarasluts Жыл бұрын
God, The good place is a show i really cant recommend enough. Its so beautiful, the writing is magnificent, the characters are acted out so well, I had low hopes at first and god did it impress me. The ending makes me cry everytime. I love this show so god damn much
@morgancarisse5755 Жыл бұрын
i love knowing that the writers had no idea what to do for season 2 because that was my favourite season
@mariannedarrow7227 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@staceynainlab8882 ай бұрын
Inn my opinion, the biggest turning point was partway through season 3 when they discover that nobody goes to Heaven. it calls into question whether the man characters deserved to be in the bad place at all given everybody goes to the bad place even ones who had the best intentions and did the best they could. Then the main characters stopped selfishly trying to find their own way to Heaven and started one a more selfless mission to get everyone else there. They even offered themselves up for eternal torture at one point to try and save the rest of humanity.
@oliver-violet9381 Жыл бұрын
i love the first line of the description! excellent choice
@necro_nancy Жыл бұрын
I agree with this 100%. I loved the first season, and started season two with the expectation that they would likely milk the "reset" for another whole season, as that's what I felt most other shows would do in similar circumstances. The Good Place is not most other shows and continued to astound me with it's swift yet smooth pacing, and willingness to seemingly write itself into corners, while having every outcome and continuation feel like a natural and earned progression.
@juliawhitmore3991 Жыл бұрын
I respect nothing more than a show that gets in, does an excellent job, and gets out.
@5h3nn0ng2 ай бұрын
You know, the season 2 premiere is like the antithesis to this infamous arc in a popular anime. If you know the show named The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, there were a series of episodes known as the Endless Eight. These episodes were about how the main cast’s summer vacation has been looping for almost millennia. While the idea of it is interesting, the problem was that there was little variation in those 8 episodes that some people would just opt to just watch only the first and the last loop. Some scenes were even the same word for word, with the only difference being the camera angles and what the characters were wearing. In turn, it caused some of show’s good reputation to be lost from the audience. The Good Place shows that same fatigue of the main characters looping their experiences, but at the same time NOT inconveniencing the viewer from enjoying the story
@porcelainboy264Ай бұрын
I must've watched this show three times. Endlessly rewatchable