The good, the bad, and the Humane AI Pin

The good, the bad, and the Humane AI Pin | The Vergecast

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The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Piece, and Alex Cranz discuss David's review of the Humane AI Pin, Taylor Swift's music back on TikTok, a new party speaker, and much more.
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00:00 - Intro
02:06 - Humane AI Pin review
46:24 - Taylor Swift back on TikTok
1:00:07 - OpenAI gets itself in trouble
1:14:26 - Lightning Round
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@TheVerge 26 күн бұрын

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@rowanstrang8072 26 күн бұрын

So is ‘the good version’ of this just a set of AirPods connected to an iPhone?

@mwinn22 26 күн бұрын

Based on the verge review scale and what is described in the review I have no idea how this product got a 4/10 and not a 2/10

@jschlesser 26 күн бұрын

I just want to say, there is a difference between the audio only and the podcast with video, it’s qualitative but it’s so much better to see y’all. Seeing all three of you and listening to you is vast. Don’t get me wrong, listening to yall is good, but watching yall is vastly better. It’s qualitative, but it’s so much better. I can’t tell you why.

@GordonChaffin 26 күн бұрын

Agreed!

@itschrishuerta 26 күн бұрын

I started watching the podcast instead of listening since video came back.

@zaxbit 26 күн бұрын

100% agree, prefer video podcasts always

@tayjn 26 күн бұрын

I paused Beyonc\u00e9’s new album to listen to this

@kindofanmol 21 күн бұрын

i almost spat my chai lmfaaooo

@siraaron4462 26 күн бұрын

I remember before ai hype blew up and we all became aware of biases and hallucinations, the general consensus was that synthetic data would somehow be more accurate than real data

@javiersp15 26 күн бұрын

new colored e-reader? new sony party speaker? Yeah this is the vergecast for the vergecast aficionado. Bring it!

@bloodops3893 26 күн бұрын

I can't wait for the Rabbit R1 review 👀

@jjjurgensen454 26 күн бұрын

Your going to be very disappointed 🤦🏿‍♂️ besides it being delayed it’s not shipping with almost any LAM functionality , so prepare yourself :/

@zaxbit 26 күн бұрын

Do all these LLM products need like… a year lead time for a review?

@jjjurgensen454 26 күн бұрын

@@zaxbit unfortunately in these instances they do and I understand there rush because they need to ship before Samsung or Apple make them obsolete , because both companies could include the technology in there watch and pretty much kill both of these products , so I understand them being rushed to beat the market but saying you can do one thing taking someone’s money and then being like oh yah most of the stuff we said it was gunna do or the crucial parts yah that’s coming way later , should be considered a bait and switch in my opinion

@zaxbit 22 күн бұрын

@@jjjurgensen454 I think the sheer nature of AI being a “do everything box” is what will make these products hard to launch every time. Most products at least try to do a nice vertical slice and be honest with it for v1.

@balloonredd373 26 күн бұрын

nothing felt more sad than seeing Bethany from Humane going on a defesne titrade under every tweet bashing the AI pin. really hilarious too

@gr81matt 26 күн бұрын

With 8 pins you could spread them around your body and be warm all the time.

@thanos879 26 күн бұрын

For $5,600 and $192 a month before taxes 😂

@AbedRahman 26 күн бұрын

Several years ago (possibly over a decade): Microsoft demoed a product that would hang around your neck and do exactly this. It was absolutely awesome, way ahead of its time, never released, and probably never worked, but was AWESOME! I can never remember what it was called but think about it every time I hear about the Humane pin.

@wwoodard8 26 күн бұрын

David, I completely understand the love hate relationship with this thing. I still have a Newton. It sits on my desk as a beloved but fatality flawed relic of the past. It didn’t work well, but I loved it!

@thefrener794 14 күн бұрын

I still use my Blackberry Playbook but more and more I am just charging it just to keep the battery from going dead permanently. But I would not go to battle with anyone who says it is a useless device.

@themizarkshow 26 күн бұрын

I've been using the BOOX color e-readers this past year and it rules so much. Excited to see it rolling out elsewhere finally.

@AndreVandal 26 күн бұрын

On copyrights, I found a book with a photo of mine on the cover, when contacted the publisher was sure that if a photo was found on the net it was free... seriously, WTH!

@mr_grillet 26 күн бұрын

Serious question - why not just clip your Apple Watch to your chest and use Siri? ...I have used Siri to create notes, calendar events, set alarms, send messages.... most of the things he does in the review. I really want to see more devices out there but, I just don't get the Pin. Most of the examples of things to do in the review are things, I do with a few taps on my phone. Smart phones are actually really good at solving a huge range of issues / challenges. Also, I don't want others to hear what I am adding to my shopping list... 🤷🏽‍♂

@elvisflees 24 күн бұрын

So excited for the kobo clara color.

@1horatius 26 күн бұрын

I do believe does have something to blame regarding timing of answering besides its very expensive for the service.

@18000rpm 26 күн бұрын

Rather than a laser projector, it should just use a smart watch as display and input. That would be way easier AND cheaper. The device should also work with your phone rather than require a cell data plan.

@MattSwain1 25 күн бұрын

It’s true but would also depend on people having a compatible watch or ditching their existing watch for a Humane watch. I’m not likely to ditch my Garmin to get something compatible with the Pin. And I guess that’s why they went this way… it looks flash and doesn’t depend on anyone else’s ecosystem

@theblah12 25 күн бұрын

Why not just make it an app then?

@fooolishgamess 26 күн бұрын

Having video of your episodes it’s a completely different experience than just audio. Even though I enjoy The Verge’s content, I can’t ever listen to more than 30-40 min of the podcast episodes because ideas seem to be all over the place, and changing multiple subjects during the episodes just loses me. But with video I stay longer and are more interested in watching you interact with one another than just listening.

@jaredkrause2747 26 күн бұрын

“She literally just laughed” 🥴

@U2haveaniceday20 21 күн бұрын

Awesome Podcast guys but Alex this is just for you please talk about it and show all please.Thanks so much enjoyed. 💯✌️

@kyleebrock 23 күн бұрын

I taped my phone to my chest. It works!

@DeepakVadgama 21 күн бұрын

I am super surprised smartwatches were not used for comparison. All the flaws talked about because of its small size (battery, heat, interactivity, antennas) all of them should apply to smartwatches as well due yet today's smartwatches do all of it way better than Humane AI Pin.

@Untitled-0001 24 күн бұрын

Besides the features that require a camera, what can the AI pin actually do that the Apple Watch can't

@nocturnus009 26 күн бұрын

FINALLY, calling a Spade a Spade 0:58:00

@mattydsmith 24 күн бұрын

The Ai pin might be weird, but I've got more questions about David's mug tree behind his sofa 🧐

@expectationlost 24 күн бұрын

3 is generous, it doesnt consistently work = 0.

@doyouknowmeforsure 26 күн бұрын

21:03 no David, I disagree with you. This in fact should be the episode that you sent to Webby.

@kuakilyissombroguwi 26 күн бұрын

It’s just not acceptable to ship a product like this, which barely works. Honestly, it’s actually more expensive to do this, because it hurts the brand, and this is a completely new brand. People are now not going to trust any future iteration, even if it blows V1 out of the water.

@thefrener794 14 күн бұрын

This thing is not as good as my old echo dot except that it goes around with me. My phone goes with me.

@dubzxn2460 26 күн бұрын

lmao she said we going back words in content consumption

@arctic28130 26 күн бұрын

But the real question is, beef or bust? We need the hypecheck

@kitsand 26 күн бұрын

"It's not as if this thing never works." -- Alexx A broken clock is right twice a day. I wouldn't recommend buying a broken clock.

@zedrake 22 күн бұрын

I loved the review but 1 problem with professional reviewing is you don't feel the money leave your pocket. I understand the product getting an extra point for trying something big but that 1 point should exist only in the context of this podcast, not the actual review itself. Fact of the matter is if a regular person gets the AI Pin within 1 year it will cost the the same as your $1000 smartphone and it can do maybe 5% of what it can do. The review should reflect what it actually does as a consumer piece of tech. Not a tech monologue on what tech can be.

@toshaks 22 күн бұрын

I want to know about Kobo ereader!

@RafK 26 күн бұрын

I'm with Alex, colour ereaders 🎉

@user-on8us2oi8s 26 күн бұрын

7/10 Nilay Patel

@JulioMadeira 26 күн бұрын

AIPIM stands for Cassada in Portuguese lol

@tipoomaster 26 күн бұрын

Kos, or some say Kosm

@user-on8us2oi8s 26 күн бұрын

Magic until it isn’t.

@razealghoul 26 күн бұрын

God dam Americans will find a way to use any measuring system except the metric system. What is 2 Arthurs nilay?!?!

@Andre-cj3ec 25 күн бұрын

My wife will confirm I'm into useless gadgets. Even I can't figure out the point of an AI pin. I have a smart watch and earbuds with smart assistant. Why would one need a pin instead of just making the smart assistant better? If the solution is better software, why do I need a separate piece of hardware?

@thomasjoseph86 26 күн бұрын

First ☝️

@mon699 21 күн бұрын

Why would you spend $700 to be told lies 😂😂

@danb6546 24 күн бұрын

Bad reviews from people who make money being on your screen

@Facts4Logic 26 күн бұрын

No00000

@craiggmelville 26 күн бұрын

The pin is $988 🤬

@rproaudio1 26 күн бұрын

You all have a cognitive distortion related to synthetic data. As the quality of output increases, functionally its the effect of more human level quality content being generated, if we accept that these tools can out perform certain cognitive tasks. This is about mapping a possibility space, not elusive magical powers only afforded to humans.

@LaurentCardinal 25 күн бұрын

I understood about 0% of what you just said

@GoblinLight 25 күн бұрын

Oh. My. God. 4/10. Your justifications for the score makes *no* sense, i especially like the ”it’s a startup” one. Is this a product, or a company review?

@delxinogaming6046 26 күн бұрын

They literally invented v1 of the Star Trek communicator, and people are like ‘meh’

@ch7isr 26 күн бұрын

It’s a sad shadow of the show it used to be. Without Josh to keep nilay in line just becomes a constant downer even with piece trying his hardest.

@TheEtbetween 26 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, a lot of these features that this guy is complaining about if you go on that website, you see that these are coming soon features they’re not finish features yet, so it’s a little bit unfair that these guys are not telling the whole story

@betaprotocol 26 күн бұрын

If the product isn’t done Humane shouldn’t be selling it yet. Promising to improve a product in future software updates is never a guarantee in this industry, especially for an unproven startup like Humane.

@mcraig 26 күн бұрын

You can't review a promise. You can review what it's currently capable of.

@theblah12 25 күн бұрын

@@betaprotocol*Especially* a startup like Humane. We might complain about Google killing off their products if they don’t reach some kind of critical mass in the first 6 months but with a hardware product from a startup there’s a very good chance that the entire company will fold and you’re left with an expensive brick if the product flops and the money runs out (which is a highly likely scenario in this case, especially with the price and the reviews it’s getting).

@CanadianCannabisSociety 26 күн бұрын

This device gets an insane amount of coverage for how useless it is. They must have insanely deep pockets as a company, sad.

@Mikey-vd6op 26 күн бұрын

They told investors it has AI and secured $230M also it had big promises so it’s going to be reviewed. If it lived up to any of its expectations it’d be cool. It’s sad that we all knew it wouldn’t and we were all right.

@Shoutinthewind 26 күн бұрын

You think 230milion will be enough for the company to survive until the next iteration? Because I don’t believe for a second that they will get enough sales to recoup the cost of production. Assuming they allow you to return the device then I’m guessing 75% of their sales will be returned.

@Mikey-vd6op 23 күн бұрын

@@Shoutinthewind I think it's mostly software thats the biggest issue and that can't be fixed. AI isn't trust worthy in the way they want to use it. So even if they fix some of the obvious things the more people run in to AI halucinations the less they'll use it for AI. If it was $200 they novelty might keep them going for a bit longer.