Dieter S Glad to start the morning off right!

Jeffery Schutt Yep, and as I pointed out, this is one of the LEAST controversial changes in a game's design from most involved. I think your point is very well taken and it shows that even in what is often perceived by a wide audience as a positive change, there are always dark sides to the change, necessary consequences that can change something fundamental about the experience of the game. That is a weighty topic you have for me there, but I have added it to my list as I am always looking for great ideas!

emcdunna Awesome, I am glad to hear it's valuable and anything I can do to help others create in any way always makes me very happy indeed.

James Quinn Thank you very much, I think lecture may be overstating my rambles, but I certainly appreciate the compliment ;)

Doom & Darkness Glad you enjoyed sir, thanks for watching and commenting as always!

Victor Ques Thank you sir, much appreciated as always.

john tailby All good points as always sir. I would argue though that in your first example, the bigger players are the ones more easily able to absorb the impact of change. Here is a simple example by way of a long analogy. So here in the states, vaping is taking off and smoking is dropping like a rock. Now vaping is relatively unregulated and of course people are pushing to change that. Who is leading that charge? The big tobacco companies of course. You might say, well yes, but they have the most to lose, they sell tobacco, not vape stuff. That was true, however, most of the larger ecig companies are now owned by tobacco companies. Essentially, they are looking to regulate themselves because they know 1) they can make the regulations most favorable to them and 2) they have money to absorb the change, i.e. they have large compliance departments that can make sure they are compliant while smaller people just can't afford to be compliant (which speaks to your second point). To bring this back around to our current meta and warhammer. In the past, those players or groups at the top have classically been able to absorb the changes (which 6-7-8 weren't really large) and were able to remain the dominant players or groups. The current change is massive and favors a completely different playstyle - meaning there is no guarantee they would remain the dominant player. There is also probably a second layer there of analogy to the 9th Age. The Swedish/ETC alliance is undoubtedly constructing a game they would find favorable, i.e. that suits their playstyle and strategies, which would allow them to remain dominant. All of that is meant in a friendly fashion, everyone is acting in their own self-interest and I understand. My sincere hope is that at the end of all this we have two strong, thriving games that appeal to different psychographic profiles and allow more people to play and enjoy warhammer in the style they favor.

john tailby Yes, there is very much a situation of the status quo often has a vested interest in that status quo instead of shifting to a new option, even if it's better. (certainly not a direct correlation to WHFB8 vs. AoS, but it has echoes).

kye baker I love D&D 5e, I think it's probably the best overall edition of D&D that has been created. There are things I love about every single edition, as they all brought interesting ideas to the table. Overall, I think it's solid because it did the best of synnergizing the best of all the previous editions while still creating it's own voice. As an aside, next time you play the game, open the PHB and go to the second page with the credits and look closely at the last paragraph - you may see the reason I am biased ;)

Haha that's awesome, i went straight to my copy of the PHB and who's name should I see...... Jeff Grubb that guy is awesome! Jokes aside, good consultation work I have been enjoying this edition as well :)

In all fairness, Jeff is one of the greatest RPG authors of all time and has given us so much (we often forget he was integral to Dragonlance) - to be counted in a group with his name is beyond an honor

Apologies, I did not mean to be little Jeff's work or achievements. My coment was made in ignorance, an attempt at humour. Though It has got me thinking, as a player I am unaware of who the authors and game designers are of the games I play. Until you directed me to it it I had never even glanced at page 2 of the phb. I am curious now, what games have you Vince written/consulted?

kye baker I took your comments as light hearted and was just adding to them ;) I have worked on 3 editions of D&D and published 6 of my own games, I have been doing this for a little more than 10 years, but of course, I am still a baby compared to many in the industry.