Support me on Patreon: / elusoryyt 00:26 Act 1 - Getting Made 08:06 Act 2 - No More Shines 15:56 Act 3 - Batts and Spiders 23:14 Act 4 - Closing the Books 29:22 Act 5 - Jittari i Virmiceddi
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@Elusory3 ай бұрын
00:26 Act 1 - Getting Made 08:06 Act 2 - No More Shines 15:56 Act 3 - Batts and Spiders 23:14 Act 4 - Closing the Books 29:22 Act 5 - Jittari i Virmiceddi
@johnjimmies82563 ай бұрын
As far back as I can remember i always wanted to watch a Goodfellas iceberg video
@jonvia2 ай бұрын
I can hear Ray's voice speaking this comment
@detectivepayne37733 ай бұрын
important note: during the Lufthansa Heist, Tommy took his mask off in front of the hostages and they got a good look at his face, Jimmy could have simply used Tommy for the hits to take out the rest of the crew, and then snitched on Tommy so there would be no more witnesses of the heist
@craigthaler62273 ай бұрын
That’s true I read that he removed his mask so he could wipe the sweat off his forehead. He was the only description they had. The robbery took 48 minutes so I bet they were all sweaty and nervous. Tommy may have been killed just because of that. Who knows what really happened w Tommy. Could have been Jimmy or Paulies order of the popular opinion that Johnny boy himself did the work as revenge for his friends William “billy bats” Bentvena and Ronald “Foxy” Jerothe.
@knoname77782 ай бұрын
In reality, Tommy was killed for various reasons... the killing of billy bats & another man, not mentioned in the movie named foxy. He also had tried to rape karen hill, who was having an affair with Vario at the time.
@dat3rdsideboy3862 ай бұрын
@@knoname7778damn paulie was smashing Karen that’s crazy
@PapaLu08Ай бұрын
@@dat3rdsideboy386Wait what??? That completely contradicts shit that happens in the movie. Damn man I gotta look into this. Because Paulie was the one always telling Henry go home to his Wife and kids and always told him family first plus paulie seemed like he was the most honorable out of the crew. Damnit man thats crazy if it’s true
@Krakkokayne16 күн бұрын
@@PapaLu08Alot of the facts were changed up by Henry to make himself out to be a bigger part of the game than he actually was, I hear that the real crew wasn't as chummy with Hill as the movie depicts, because of his drug habits. Also he apparently physically looked alot worse than his adult depiction in the movie.
@civotamuaz57813 ай бұрын
Martin Scorcese wasn't brought up in a swearing household, Oh poor him.
@justinstokes80252 ай бұрын
His mom had a ham under each arm. Crying how she doesn’t have any bread.
@contemposuits19833 ай бұрын
How do you not know what score means? Score means to successfully commit a grand larceny. Nothing more and nothing less.
@daveycrocket48733 ай бұрын
Scoring is being successful at anything. Picking up a hot girl at the bar. You scored. Finding a big bag of cash in the middle of nowhere. You scored
@staceymeans1343 ай бұрын
I had no idea that the term was a source of mystery for anyone who's seen the movie.
@NuTTzO3 ай бұрын
And deal where you get over and get cash, drugs or merchandise is a score. These days I call it a lick haha
@scottjohnstone62043 ай бұрын
Obviously true but also in my area of the UK a score can also mean £20.
@jamesr62343 ай бұрын
@@scottjohnstone6204 nobody cares about the UK shut up
@Evan-lr8nq3 ай бұрын
My stepfather wore a crucifix, Star of David and an ankh. He also wore leisure suits, so...
@firstworldproblems60643 ай бұрын
um congratulations
@venenomecca58553 ай бұрын
He’s like that guy from the mummy with all the charms of each religion
@HailWoden183 ай бұрын
Sounds like dude had identity issues.
@MsPlutoASMR2 ай бұрын
@@venenomecca5855Benny! He was such a little shit.
@johnconway98822 ай бұрын
The 1970s: The Golden Age of Polyester
@jaguarcap64943 ай бұрын
Jimmy Burke did really cry when someone told him that Tommy got whacked, did exactly what robert de niro did in the goodfellas, breaking the telephone and the booth too, because Jimmy Burke knew Tommy since he was a teen and was very close to him, and so when heard that he got whacked he cried... this is all according to Henry Hill. There is an ex mafia member who makes videos on youtube, whose father's character was in the introduction scene, his name's Fat Andy. now i dont remember the ex mafia guy's name but he said Tommy Desimone was his best friend, and was Paulie's friend, and he even knew and liked Pete the killer like a friend too. he said Tommy got worse and worse to the point where when Tommy said him to come with him in the car, he refused and said he's busy, that's how crazy he had got...
@Blackdiamondprod.3 ай бұрын
14:41 he did twenty fucking years in the can!
@danieljohnson20053 ай бұрын
…in someone’s can.
@serotoninsyndrome3 ай бұрын
Not a peep....
@dakotamartin5233 ай бұрын
He wanted Marigot, but he compromised…..
@bajorekjonАй бұрын
He was waiting 20 years to tell Tommy to get his fuckin shinebox
@Blackdiamondprod.Ай бұрын
@@dakotamartin523 you mean manicotti?
@enriquemedina36313 ай бұрын
4:47 Wise Guys actually has a couple connections to Goodfellas. 1. It was directed by Brian DePalma, Scorsese’s good friend and director of Scarface who discovered De Niro and put him in his early films, plus The Untouchables. DePalma similarly changed the title of his movie Carlito’s Way from the original novel, After Hours to avoid confusion with Scorsese’s 1985 film. 2. Both of Scorsese’s parents have cameos in the Wise Guys as party guests, of course they both appear in Goodfellas as Tommy’s mom and Vinnie, the guy who made the sauce in prison and witnessed Tommy’s murder. 3. Both Frank Vincent and Harvey Keitel have roles in Wise Guys. Frank Vincent of course plays Billy Batts in Goodfellas, also appeared in Casino, Raging Bull, and the Sopranos. He and Pesci got their start as singing comedy duo in the 70s. While Harvey Keitel was discovered by Scorsese and appeared in his early films, including Mean Streets and Taxi Driver with De Niro. He used to be with Lorraine Bracco (Karen), and helped get her the role in the film. Their daughter plays Henry’s daughter in the prison scene. He also appeared with De Niro and Pesci in Scorsese’s The Irishman.
@Mavvyd963 ай бұрын
Great iceberg video! I'm very surprised that Scorsese did not like The Sopranos at all. Sounds kind of sus.
@NickyMetropolis13133 ай бұрын
He was in it too.
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
@@NickyMetropolis1313 Haha the guy who plays Scorsese in Sopranos totally had me fooled at first. That's his doppelgänger for sure
@CyrusCLP3 ай бұрын
That's cap. No way he didn't like the sopranos. Lies 😂😂
@aaronvivar523 ай бұрын
@@Elusory? what episode is that?
@NickyMetropolis13133 ай бұрын
@@Elusory Yeah I think it's a look-alike or whatever but it was supposed to be him within the context of the show of course. But it's strange because Marty went on to work with Terrance Winter if I'm not mistaken for boardwalk empire And obviously Steve buscemi was in there too for both shows
@sparklemonster19223 ай бұрын
Didn’t Pacino and DeNiro appear together in Heat (1995)?
@rickymonfil92363 ай бұрын
Yes but that wasn’t Scorsese
@trainsurfer75933 ай бұрын
@@rickymonfil9236 Yes but the video said 'their first film together', not 'their first film with Scorsese together'
@kaal62233 ай бұрын
they did godfather 2 as well
@avace9173 ай бұрын
@@trainsurfer7593he literally says "do you know what movie was Pacino and Scorcese's first film together?" 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂. 25:31
@orangewarm13 ай бұрын
i think Henry was directly involved with Batts murder (physically, not just locking the door), the Lufthansa heist and the whacking of acquaintances like Two-Times. He says, 'but it had nothing to do with me'. Why say that? Was he not part of Jimmy and Tommy's crew? He distances himself because of the possibilities of repercussions.
@Itsthatguy243 ай бұрын
I agree!!
@Frshcuko3 ай бұрын
That’s the thing with Scorsese crime dramas. Basically every one of them is based on a true story and all these guys are obviously going to have them being portrayed as better than they actually were. Like Henry never committing a murder, I don’t buy that. No way all these murderers would trust a guy who never ever whacked anybody. Or how in the Irishman, frank sheeran claims that he killed Jimmy Hoffa, like sure pal Edit: not saying they’re bad movies. I think they perfectly capture these guys lifestyles and what it was like and Scorsese is so skilled at making it engaging. But I don’t trust these guys accounts on the stories they’re telling Scorsese and they have influence over the film. Like Jordan belfort literally showing up at the end of the wolf of Wall Street. This man definitely probably made himself out to be better than he was, like basically claiming he only ripped off rich people.
@apt13podcast743 ай бұрын
Great video. Well researched, well spoken, and fun to watch. Earned my sub with this one.
@rustykuntz943 ай бұрын
Def check out Copland, good film & if your into (as you are) Goodfellas & Sopranos there’s even more familiar faces you’ll recognize
@mattjindrak3 ай бұрын
Great movie. Bullets Over Broadway was another 90s mob movie with lots of Sopranos and Goodfellas actors sprinkled in
@Jahdoesyt2 ай бұрын
I love how you do the iceburg vids keep up the great quality
@scumganz3 ай бұрын
the imagery in this is great
@rexbanner46083 ай бұрын
I just remembered something I heard a long time ago with regard to Tommy's death in real life, I think from the Bloodletters And Badmen youtube channel, which is a channel dedicated to cosa nostra. Allegedly, the way the Gambino Family found out that it was Tommy, a Lucchesi associate, who killed Billy Bats, a Gambino soldier, was through Paul Varrio, a Lucchesi captain (Paul Cisaro in the movie). The alleged motive was that Paulie wanted Tommy gone because he (Paulie) was sleeping with Karen Hill while her husband Henry was in prison. Tommy also tried to get with Karen and when she refused Tommy's advances, Tommy tried to rape her but was unsuccessful. She immediately told Paulie, her lover about it so in response Paulie went to the Gambinos and told them that Tommy had killed one of their guys, knowing it was an automatic death sentence for Tommy.
@BigBussinBiscuits3 ай бұрын
Bloodletters is literally goated. He does good research.
@guywgane33 ай бұрын
Great video. I'm glad you included so much historical background as well.
@colin5434552 ай бұрын
I’m so surprised this video doesn’t have as much views as it should. Love these mob film icebergs and ur editing style
@MsPlutoASMRАй бұрын
Agreed
@sagonthebeatmaker58953 ай бұрын
good video man, keep it up!
@madjack44073 ай бұрын
The Batts gay thing is a non starter. A made guy isn’t going to admit that in any context around his crew or others. Turn of phrase to let his crew know that he isn’t afraid of Tommy/Thinks Tommy is a nobody.
@bajorekjonАй бұрын
There have been gay made men before it wouldn't be so out of the ordinary. Plus, 20 years in the can, he probably had to make compromises
@twobeat3103 ай бұрын
Scorsese gives me Uncle Jun vibes with him giving the whole “he’s part of a whole generation” argument for not liking The Sopranos. That and the way he looks (i.e. Italian Larry David)
@Aivottaja3 ай бұрын
Uncle Jun (while watching CYE): Is that me? And Bobby?
@peterthosegriffins6663 ай бұрын
I feel the child grooming bit could also apply to something going on between Billy Bats and Tommy. That comment about guys like him in the can and the way Tommy reacts to the comments about "spit shining" has some very disturbing and dark implications about their past relationship
@santo41723 ай бұрын
I don’t know about that, that’s just the way they talked back then
@saltt12 ай бұрын
Great iceberg video!
@RainBird88x2 ай бұрын
A whole bar heard, and saw Tommy arguing with, and threatening, Billy Batts.
@JeffTheHokie3 ай бұрын
They did use fake cash for part of it. I noticed in one scene there were stacks of bills that all had the same serial number.
@scottaronson18203 ай бұрын
I dont get it. People getting lazy. At 13:12 while stating "...insisted on using real cash" shows an edit of a scene using prop money. You would think that when editing the video, you would make sure that what you present doesnt conflict with your premise. Take the time to find the scene (if there is one) where real currency is used!
@jacktucker42573 ай бұрын
Good video keep it up
@user-el5hm8ij1b3 ай бұрын
Among the Italians - it was real shinebox shit
@Chadhogan1113 ай бұрын
Greaseball
@xqwhatitdo3 ай бұрын
Wild to see another VE coming out about Goodfellas right now - I started working on one about a month ago haha
@twograves6933 ай бұрын
The Reason Scorsese didn't like the sopranos is because he was in it and doesn't even remember.
@bulldawg72323 ай бұрын
I think you mean Sopranos and that was not him, it was a look a like
@mickplanter45933 ай бұрын
@@bulldawg7232He spelled it Right 🧐
@bulldawg72323 ай бұрын
@@mickplanter4593 he changed it
@VersusArdua2 ай бұрын
It's interesting how you mention the implausibility of the Goodfellas Melfi theory because we have a very similar situation with Steve Van Zandt and whether Sil is actually the main character in the show Lilyhammer. The Sopranos is referenced twice very directly from what I remember, but at one point seemingly at random another character refers to Van Zandts' character as 'Sil'. Now, this where you have to open your mind a little bit, but I'd say alternate universes within The Sopranos is very much on the table. We already know that there are very subtle supernatural elements within the show through the presence of Lyvia that AJ experiences after her death and the apparitions (Paulie's vision of the virgin Mary or, more relevantly, Pussy showing up in a mirror that one time), take that along with the fact that Melfi and Tony actively discussed the possibility of alt realities following Tony's psychedelic experience on Mescaline. Oh, and yeah, Kevin Finnerty, of course. Overall I'd say there's enough there to speculate about the theory as well as in regards to other characters besides just Melfi. That's why imo Lilyhammer is probably Sil's coma altering his awareness to reality to the point where he literally becomes a different version of himself and I think similar comparisons can be made elsewhere, too. My point is that I suppose Goodfellas and Sopranos aren't a shared universe, but perhaps two entirely distinct and yet connected all the same universes merging. Idk. I'm usually really against contrived speculation about supernatural elements in stuff that's very much not about that but Sopranos managed to do it so well that I really can't help myself
@henryshikowitz34883 ай бұрын
Excellent intro!
@CandidaRosa8893 ай бұрын
Cool video, I would have put Lois's censored airline ticket near the end of the film. I still don't know why that was done since that never happens in the rest of the film. I've also wondered why we've never seen any kind of deleted scene or outtakes for this movie which I guess is common for Scorsese, I've only seen one for Casino.
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
yes, what a missed opportunity that was. I always wondered that myself too on the censoring of the airline ticket. Might have just been a cheap trick by Scorsese and the editing crew to evoke an extra sense of realism
@user-el5hm8ij1b3 ай бұрын
The reason it was edited is the airline company demanded this / they did not want their name associated with crime
@mickplanter45933 ай бұрын
The Dubbed Airline Tickets Maybe down to the Airline not wanting any Bad Publicity 🤷🏾♂️
@jigglebiggle27993 ай бұрын
Alright this video was a banger, now all we need is a godfather part 1 and 2 iceberg
@CommieGobeldygook3 ай бұрын
14:00 it's a tuff guy thing, he's not gay, although if you're in prison you get a pash for dat.
@bajorekjonАй бұрын
20 years in the can, he probably had to make some compromises
@johnclay27163 ай бұрын
Insanely obscure iceberg
@DamidasАй бұрын
Scorsese is just player hating on Sopranos because now Goodfellas sits in the shadow of Sopranos but without Goodfellas there would be no Sopranos so he feels under-appreciated
@petere.91383 ай бұрын
Morrie and Jimmy isn’t quite right. Remember that Jimmy was pissed for not getting the money Morrie owed him. Morrie figured he could get back to even and then ahead, but was such a ballbreaker. Morrie probably wouldn’t have lived out to old age, but he probably could have lived longer if he had done like Henry.
@Evan64mАй бұрын
The point-shaving racket was a whole section of the book. I think it was removed because it wouldn’t have really connected with the story that much or been that entertaining, same with Henry enlisting in the army to try and leave the mob early on.
@1sihingable3 ай бұрын
I'm enjoying this, though. I subscribed.
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
Thank you, glad you are enjoying my walkthrough!
@Nixkrude793 ай бұрын
32:57 Frankie Carbon is based off of Angelo Sepe and Richard Eaton the death scene with him in a meat truck is reference to Richard Eaton death IRL he sold Jimmy some fake coke for 2.5 million dollars
@peterthosegriffins6663 ай бұрын
Copland is a truly great Stallone project, I think you'd like it since you appreciated Goodfellas so much!
@howard9233 ай бұрын
Cool video! But why is the colour palette so desaturated/low contrast?
@MsPlutoASMR3 ай бұрын
Copyright issues he had to use a filter
@LiveAndLetLivia3 ай бұрын
Interesting video. I don't understand what "iceberg" means though. Can you explain? Thanks!
@courtneyaxtman86452 ай бұрын
Could you read the topics of each iceberg. I know a lot of us just listen without watching. But other than that, Awesome video!
@conorcane12112 ай бұрын
uhh… Henry wears the Star of David because his wife, Karen is jewish. Karen’s Mother (Henry’s future In-Law) only wants Karen to marry another Jewish man, so Karen lies and says Henry is half jewish, it’s why when Karen’s mother says “Oh i heard your half jewish” he responds “Just the good half!” the star of david is to trick his in-law, not because he’s jewish. Henry hill was a catholic
@bennygerow3 ай бұрын
Cop Land was great! Awesome ending too.
@jonvia2 ай бұрын
As someone who is from Ohio, its a perfect state for witness protection. Really all you have to do to blend in is be an OSU buckeyes fan and drink more than usual.
@MadBenzo3 ай бұрын
Cop Land is an excellent film. it's one of a handful of movies that I will watch over & over again. The cast is LOADED. Sly, The Wolf Harvey (Pulp Fiction), Ray Lotta, Melfi, I'm tired of typing. It's a much watch and it's fun to watch cops try to evade the cops who investigate cops. I may watch it now for a refresh...:)
@CURVEDGLASS1233 ай бұрын
"You think I'm funny" scene was "lifted" from an old film. I will be including this in another video.
@maksimalyst3 ай бұрын
Fellas, i'm not finook
@MsPlutoASMR3 ай бұрын
I don’t know it’s questionable 👀
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
@@MsPlutoASMR he compromised
@maksimalyst3 ай бұрын
@@Elusory frankly im depressed and ashamed
@ScienceBabbleMusic3 ай бұрын
20 years in the can
@PhantomFelix2111643 ай бұрын
I think its a bit much to say that its unforgivable that he doesn't like "The Sopranos", it seems its more a matter of taste and that its a different mafia from the one he grew up with, I also wouldn't be surprised if its because he feels its trying too hard to be like Goodfellas (which makes sense because even Chase regrets making the first season too similar in tone to Goodfellas). And if he's afraid David Chase is eclipsing Goodfellas with The Sopranos, then he shouldn't worry anymore after Many Saints... Lol
@cloudsombrero3 ай бұрын
nah its unforgiveable
@williamf.buckleyjr32273 ай бұрын
Goodfellas: "Hey. I got another one. Gonna capture my 'essence'!" The Shining: "Good job! Keep going!"
@MarioCaez3 ай бұрын
28:40 I didn't know Kurt Angle was in this movie LOL
@jonvia2 ай бұрын
Im gonna go get the papers, get the papers
@denaeiii3 ай бұрын
The commentary on this top tier 💀
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@costalamb30653 ай бұрын
Regarding the religious aspect. The real Henry Hill did convert to Judaism in order to marry his wife. So there's that angle.
@dante666jt3 ай бұрын
15:46 i think it was not Sonny Corleone but his father Vito Corleone. The message was conveyed through his lawyer, Mr. Tom Hagen, which the director rebuked!
@memesupreme24002 ай бұрын
You should’ve put Goodfellas Early script in the middle of the iceberg. The original script started during the Billy Batts Party scene. And I believe the death was more accurate. Tommy repeatedly beats him with a shovel before he’s put down, just like in real life. But this was changed to stabbing. Instead Scorsese decided to use En Media Res, only fellow screenwriters know what that is
@advaithsunilkumar16443 ай бұрын
You gotta make a Casino iceberg if it even exists
@birdwife5892 ай бұрын
very articulate!
@djcruiselover38273 ай бұрын
Your misstating of the events of the Godfather really drew my attention. It was Vito, not Sonny that had the horse head placed
@Subwaygoonfree3 ай бұрын
As a catholic, i used to wear 2 Star of David rings in my right hand. I am a full blown hypocrite, but don’t get me wrong, i was wearing because I thought it looked cool lol, but it is not uncommon seing catholics using the Star of David in some way, protestants too
@SJ-ni6iy3 ай бұрын
My dad is Jewish and my mom is a Christian, so I wear both a Star of David and a cross.
@DrJ-hx7wv3 ай бұрын
Those two symbols are diametrically opposed. The star has nothing to do with David, but is an occult hexagram first found in Prague in, I think, 1611.
@AmazingNature3652 ай бұрын
Beautiful amazing
@BaritonePapi2 ай бұрын
28:24 I thought I was trippin for a sec
@dionysoscub3 ай бұрын
Actually "Rags to Riches" is the song playing over the opening credits crawl, not "My Way".
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
You're correct. My brain didn't work here and when I say Sonny Corleone instead of Tom Hagen 🤦🏻♂️ Thanks for pointing that out @dionysoscub. No idea why I said opening credit roll whatsoever. Deserves its own iceberg talking point
@exploringhorrorhuey2 ай бұрын
subbed.
@Lemonfairyy3 ай бұрын
I’m so happy this video exists thank you😂 the realization that Henry was groomed is literally so obvious but I never fully realized it until now😅 I did first watch it as a kid myself so… damn
@positivepsycho29323 ай бұрын
Jesus, I couldn't take any more lisping. 12 minutes was it for me.
@adolfoorozco36503 ай бұрын
Do one of these for the sorpanos
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
I did! That was my last upload before this one
@dornravlin3 ай бұрын
I think the unplanned trilogy was Mean Streets, Italian Americans ( his documentary) and Good Fellas are the trilogy. Raging Bull is a beast of its own in my opinion
@kasrakhatir2 ай бұрын
Copland is great and unique. It's rare to see mid budget movies these days.
@Eddunaway-qp5tv3 ай бұрын
Who was spider in Goodfellows
@Jean-ClaudeGodDamn3 ай бұрын
RIP Tommy Vercetti
@joelglanton65313 ай бұрын
Can you imagine if the movie was called "Wiseguy?"
@thebubonicj2 ай бұрын
That’s funny, I’ve never seen or heard about this iceberg but I did notice the Crucifix and Star of David and always saw it as Henry cared more about wearing the jewelry than he cared about what they meant in regards to religion. I mean, Henry was no moral man and any religion was superficial. Karen being Jewish to him just meant, “Oh, the wedding is going to be a little different.” 🤷♂️ And I’m speaking strictly about Henry in the movie.
@avace9173 ай бұрын
The song playing during the beginning credits isn't My Way. It's Rags To Riches. The singer escapes me
@tjm81283 ай бұрын
Few tiny things wrong but still a great video.
@ryancialone30453 ай бұрын
That’s a big big stretch to say he must hate the sopranos.
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
The Sopranos is nigh-inarguably the greatest italian american work in showbiz history and Marty has only publically commented on it ONCE ever and it was negative. How is it a big big (two bigs) stretch, Ryan?
@ryancialone30453 ай бұрын
@@Elusory because he only ever talked about it ONCE, it's insane to make up so much bs based on one instance and he didn't even say anything negative. That is a lie on your part. he just made a vague statement about not understanding New Jersey and the modern mafia because thats not the time and place he is from.
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
@@ryancialone3045 Wrong
@ryancialone30453 ай бұрын
@@Elusory womp womp. don't beg me to take your idea seriously if that's all you got then
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
@@ryancialone3045 Haha ok, high effort response: Chase has gone on record numerous times stating the profound influence that Goodfellas has had on his creation, not to mention how many were brought on for Sopranos that came from Goodfellas. Imagine you are Chase, and Scorsese has only gone on public record ONCE about your creation: one of your heroes in the genre space, reducing your magnum opus accomplishment to: "I don't get it." Here you are, calling me a schizophrenic for asserting that Scorsese probably hates the show/Chase. Scorsese has gone on record to laud horror movies with monsters in them. So he must "get" that world, but not Sopranos, right? Scorsese partnered with Terrance Winter and others who worked on The Sopranos to produce/direct Boardwalk Empire. I guess that means Scorsese "gets" 1920s prohibition era Atlantic City, but not the italian mafia operating in upstate New Jersey 90s - 00s, right? To say you disagree with my assertion that he "hates" it is fine if you want to play semantics, but you seem to be asserting that he's justified in being totally disinterested and dismissive of it (if this is your position, aka that "art is subjective and he is entitled to his opinion", then you are both a Sopranos Hater and Marty Apologist. If true, thank you for unveiling your true identity) It would be like if Stan Lee (Marvel Comics) only ever made ONE comment on Batman or DC comics, saying that he "didn't get it". If you want to pretend there isn't an enormous sub-text there, then ok, you're entitled to your opinion. Not sure where calling me a scizo came from
@1sihingable3 ай бұрын
The first time Pacino worked with De Niro was the movie, "Heat".
@Elusory3 ай бұрын
The point of that bit was to identify the first time Scorsese (not De Niro) worked with Pacino. It was intended to be Goodfellas where Pacino was asked to play Jimmy, then there was this project called Modigliani that I actually didn't touch on in the video that never came into fruition, so The Irishman was technically the first time. Separately yeah, Heat was indeed the first time De Niro and Pacino worked together
@Aivottaja3 ай бұрын
Vincent and Pesci should have done one last movie together in which Vincent beats up Pesci. Then he could have gone to the big show business in the sky with the score being 2-2.
@arrow14143 ай бұрын
I reject the notion that someonr in an interreligous marriage is a hypocrite. There are thousands of interreligous marriages. Are they all hypocrites? I prefer to think of it as love taking precidence. Besides, neither Karen or Henry seemed religous and their necklaces were maybe just jewelry.
@user-yb8zn3km5x3 ай бұрын
It all really depends on how devout you claim to be
@Nixkrude793 ай бұрын
14:28 is that Frank Vincent mugshot
@ChineseGodfather3 ай бұрын
It’s Phil Leotardos from The Sopranos.
@odperc30733 ай бұрын
Babe wake up, Elusory dropped a vid
@firstworldproblems60643 ай бұрын
you're single arent you
@odperc30733 ай бұрын
@@firstworldproblems6064nope
@blakegoulds83132 ай бұрын
The term "score" is so common where I come from it doesn't need explanation. Where the hell are you from??
@bazjr86Ай бұрын
Scorsese has a 'cameo' in the second episode of the sopranos.
@DamidasАй бұрын
That was actually a look-alike and not really him. I never knew that until they said it on Talking Sopranos
@NuTTzO3 ай бұрын
A score is a deal where you make money. "I made a good score last weekend selling a pound of weed"
@whitemoses3 ай бұрын
What an excellent video. Really good points of view. I do think the scene where Jimmy is upset at Tommy being whacked was an act is a stretch, but then again maybe not. I just don't think thsts what Scorse was trying to convey. Any regard excellent thought provoking takes.
@Void7.4.143 ай бұрын
I've never been able to separate the events of the movie (and book) from being the subjective POV of a snake like Henry Hill cause I don't at all believe he was as innocent as he made out or we see in the film. He acts like he was around all this violence yet never really participated past throwing somebody a beating or whatever. But the dude was a stone sociopath. There's an interview where he's laughing about "them" beating a woman and breaking her arm iirc and he's smiling about it like it was all a good time before realizing he's too into it and it looks bad and gets control of himself again like OJ in that one infamous interview where he does the exact same about his wife's brutal murder. Even if he himself didn't pull the trigger or anything like that it's very hard to believe he was with those guys and didn't actively participate in murder(s) past just hiding Billy Bats' body. Maybe I'm tweakin but that's what I see in him. He was in love with all of it, even the violence, he was just also a self-centered coward and screw up. Also, Billy's statement definitely comes off like sexual assault, but Phil's relations didn't necessarily have to be. Billy's either really, he just maybe worded it that way cause he a bigot and doesn't wanna look weak. Prison assault is definitely a real thing, a horrible problem, and is sickeningly played off as funny as often or not, but A. It's not as widespread as some make it out to be, B. It's rarely random and is more of a weapon and punishment be it for enemies, people who steal, people with bad paperwork like those who hurt kids or women, people that don't repay debts, etc, and C. There's plenty of willing participants in the joint so there's simply not a reason if all they're tryna do is get off - assault is about power, domination, inflicting pain, not physical pleasure alone. The Sopranos has hella cast members from Goodfellas, the Godfather movies, Micky Blue Eyes, and many other movies mentioned in the show as well as musicians like Frankie Valli playing other roles who are also mentioned as existing in their universe (which is basically our universe with those changes and a maybe a little metaphysical stuff). So I don't think that's a good reason even if I think all these theories, like Karen being Melfi, are pretty boring and stupid lol Pretty sure in the movie Jimmy ratted him out, in reality and since we have an unreliable narrator that we know is a scumbag it very well may have been Henry.
@NipplePinchGenocide3 ай бұрын
Obviously the guy put some people in the ground himself, otherwise he would have never made it to the age of 30
@absoFNlutely8 күн бұрын
I'm gonna watch this video, watch this video.
@elicash315Ай бұрын
In real life jimmy talked Tommy into killing Billy bats because when Billy went away to prison, Jimmy took over Billy‘s racket and now Billy was back, which would cost Jimmy a lot of money Billy was also a friend of John Gotti, who is rumored killed Tommy
@paulsansonetti74102 ай бұрын
3:50 Its not the Star of David Its the Seal of Solomon Used by Solomon to control the demons that Solomon used to build his temple
@aaronbaron31553 ай бұрын
Theres a damn iceberg for everything i guess....
@AcidCult2 ай бұрын
Do GodFather Next
@DiogenesUlyanov3 ай бұрын
A "score" is a money making opportunity
@billdehappy13 ай бұрын
why shoulndt you be able to wear crucifix or be of both since they belong to same religon
@mickplanter45933 ай бұрын
Score means too have Made some Money ( I’ve had a Good Score Today) not meaning I’ve Ive Whacked 💥 Somebody Today🤷🏾♂️
@johnkeating343 ай бұрын
Frank Vincent then gets the better of Pesci in Casino
@seanjackson45713 ай бұрын
I want to watch this. I really do. But I feel like you're going to use the term 'deep dive' immediately and then regale me with how it was really Scorsese's mother that was in that scene, and how she really cooked for them.