I got to meet Indian larry once he really was that kind of guy... We were in NYC and had broken down I didnt know his shop was only like a mile away.. anyways he was riding by stopped offering help took us to his shop and fixed my bike free of charge and then rode with us out of town to the bridge.. I have pictures of it.. Truly an amazing guy loved what he did. I cried when I heard he died.. 1 in a million.
@h.d.mech.mortenson20984 ай бұрын
That’s awesome. Yeah it was really a shame.
@Pingaheimer3 ай бұрын
What was the problem with the bike?
@DebtheReb13693 ай бұрын
What an stand up guy Indian Larry was. Only the good die young
@agroman772 ай бұрын
was a stupid accident, he did fell from his bike with no helmet. miss him too. R.I.P.
@nezerif2 күн бұрын
prove it
@funeralbillii91726 жыл бұрын
Indian Larry: A gentleman to the end. R.I.P. my Friend.
@johnnynobuddy13 жыл бұрын
Artist*
@brinkybrinkz3 жыл бұрын
Great man! Love his style and attitude. The Greatest!
@tommyt19713 жыл бұрын
Yup, Even if you aren’t a motorcycle rider, you can still appreciate how beautiful his bikes were. I just wish he’d been wearing a helmet while practicing those stunts that day - they say he might have survived the fall.
@J_CO2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnynobuddy1 nnmmmkmlkbfbbfhdhffhngjcfjguugfififigigivkvvixkccucuicxudiucucycyycyyychcjcjcckkuvruuuybtu Buenas
@truantray16 күн бұрын
@@tommyt1971 Larry was too invested in the chopper cosplay to wear a helmet.
@mojoeguitars1295 жыл бұрын
I love these old shows. No scripted drama, no bullshit yelling and fighting. Just two respectful dudes building some motorcycles
@johnnybgood7744 жыл бұрын
Yea it was still scripted lol
@taxpayer99724 жыл бұрын
Respectful ? Yea, ok.
@twerkingtwinkies23354 жыл бұрын
@@taxpayer9972 lmao, billy in this video anyway, was like a cocky douche bag that couldn't make a bike that ran. I loved the editing, making him eat his words , scripted or not, hilarious
@craigkidwell13104 жыл бұрын
I just want to tell you one thing I know Billy lane will give you the shirt off his back if you needed it and that’s a fact !!!
@derekhuber33923 жыл бұрын
Craig Kidwell, I wish Billy would keep his shirt on. I’m pretty sure he was the inspiration for Maui in the Moana movie 😂
@jays84334 жыл бұрын
15 years later and Larry’s bikes are still my favorite style.
@ericcatrambone62882 жыл бұрын
me too
@brad41102 жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯
@AstrixCloud Жыл бұрын
Timeless designs.
@Gommimann Жыл бұрын
Me too, legendary ❤️🇸🇯
@drift13b Жыл бұрын
Yup
@lgttb112 жыл бұрын
no one will ever build bikes as sweet as Larry's you've got to love how Larry wanted to help Billy get his bike running and he won't take the free win. Larry was a real one of a kind and will be missed.. RIP Larry
@BikesBeardsAndBrews2 жыл бұрын
Larry is a straight up class act and sorely missed. We need more Indian Larry's in the world. Total respect to Billy showing respect too
@MoisFamilyTech Жыл бұрын
More "people" in the world, especially in the compedative world, should take a Hard look at these two! I mean WOW, what Amazing sportsmanship and comradery, this was an Amazing time in history and in motorcycle history specifically! :)
@Panzer-Geomancer Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how different it is from Occ.
@bigpicturethinking56206 жыл бұрын
To me 1998 to about 2005 was when discovery channel was the real deal.
@willwarro40544 жыл бұрын
yeah and they need to bring it back to the real americans that know what authentic appreciation really is!
@matthewmurray41594 жыл бұрын
Facts man!! My whole teenage years discovery helped me find my love for alot if shit like this.
@MrPHUCKYOURSELF4 жыл бұрын
Big Picture Thinking i agree with that.
@christopherlastname76384 жыл бұрын
@C.S.R. B. you voted for Hillary Clinton your the scumbag criminal!
@mattlafrance41314 жыл бұрын
Yep
@71sc5028 жыл бұрын
Larry is a fucking legend. Helping billy like that and the he split the trophy and called it a draw still. What an OG dude. R.i.p
@willwarro40544 жыл бұрын
i could not have said it better. right on!
@jays84334 жыл бұрын
Yep, years later and the part when he fixes the bike still kicks me. Forget everything else, being nice and helpful is above everything else. All these years and everyone still talks about him in the biker world
@dealit33704 жыл бұрын
Night school?
@mikeysmith37554 жыл бұрын
Michael gril
@mikeysmith37554 жыл бұрын
Love 344
@michaelforsythe93506 жыл бұрын
I'll take watching the fabrication over drama & storylines anyday.
@xmo5524 жыл бұрын
And deadlines
@michaelvicario25843 жыл бұрын
Bsno
@erikmurray36613 жыл бұрын
All day
@evodgamehunter42902 жыл бұрын
Big OCC fan are ya
@truantray16 күн бұрын
But none of these bikes actually ran. They all ended up as display bikes. No one can ride a shitty hardtail with that ridiculous rake. You can even find these bikes pretty cheap. Trailer queens.
@itsoundzgood5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this exact episode when it came out. Wow how time flies
@maxxxmodelz40614 жыл бұрын
Same.
@aphysique4 жыл бұрын
Ten Four on that
@Frankybroadcast4 жыл бұрын
Same. And I still watch this very episode regularly.
@erikmurray36613 жыл бұрын
Me too
@wekker0903 жыл бұрын
Thx feeling really old now.
@ZR1KingOfTheHillZR16 жыл бұрын
this was THEE most badass episode discovery ever aired. period.
@derekborba95745 жыл бұрын
Facts. Best builders they ever had on the show. Had they not faced each other and had Billy's bike not caught fire against Exile choppers they both would have been undefeated.
@Frankybroadcast4 жыл бұрын
First one I remember seeing. I've watched this full episode countless times in the last 20 years, or however long it's been.
@stevebarker2233 жыл бұрын
Ride on brother Larry .ride on brother
@npjsog17325 жыл бұрын
When Billy hugd Larry and said you’re my hero! I choked up! R.I.P Indian Larry one of the greatest builders ever.
@johnnynobuddy13 жыл бұрын
Artist*
@billbillings77157 ай бұрын
That's just awesome facts
@Dport76767612 жыл бұрын
Billy's bike is like a mullet or rat tail, there was a moment in time when they were cool. Larry's bike is classic cool, will always be cool.
@nathanielpea58193 жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly. Even at their peak coolness I'd still take the bike that handles well.
@user-sx5cl8sv2f2 ай бұрын
And now in 2024 the Bikes he built with a Panhead sitting in it would go 6 figures easy ! I would give my left nad for a Rat Fink style bike by Larry !
@CharlesWillisBonsai2 жыл бұрын
Larry seemed like such a genuinely cool dude. Just look at how he treated Billy and helped him. RIP
@awbretire8 жыл бұрын
Larry has the heart. It's all about brotherhood and the life.
@arturoviva57184 жыл бұрын
A Down to Earth Biker. R.I.P. LARRY.
@Pokerface-tr1ds5 жыл бұрын
That's Indian Larry for you. A true champion and gentleman! R. I. P. big guy!
@ramivjava57765 жыл бұрын
" i don't care if he win or loose, friendship is priceless" words of a great builder, I L rip
@douglasschultz98086 жыл бұрын
15 years later and Larry's creations still amaze me. Rest in peace
@stratocaster1greg6 жыл бұрын
You never forget the old timers who help you get your machine running right. Feel for Billy having to keep kicking that engine over. Both guys are talented.
@billbillings77157 ай бұрын
Awesome
@courage02438 жыл бұрын
Now that's how it should be. R.I.P. Indian Larry
@seymorbutts10273 жыл бұрын
I remember reading biker mags while doing a sniper course in the Army in 1997 and Indian Larry really stood out, now im buying my first Harley and an I looked up Larry in 2021 because he was one guy that i remember reading about...this guy was one in a million. R.I.P Indian Larry-legend.
@TheIsrian12 жыл бұрын
Billy's determination and Larry's spirit define what biking should be ,just great and so inspirational.
@jidde84738 жыл бұрын
indian larry is in only for the brotherhood and friendship unlike other bike builders in this show...you gotta respect the guy...r.i.p in chopper heaven larry
@alexbakker66012 жыл бұрын
When I was about 8 years old I would come home from school, sneak up stairs, and watch this on my parents TV. Amazing how watching master craftsmen build their creations can influence you the rest of your life! I remember crying when they played the episode where Indian Larry died. Hope billy and everybody is doing ok and still building bikes!
@hussydahustla10 ай бұрын
Go check out billy lanes youtube channel and subscribe! He's still posting biker build videos.
@dnlcast24 жыл бұрын
Can't believe this was 15 years ago! I can still remember coming home from work and watching these biker build offs in the mid 2000"s.
@hawaiianairbrushed4 жыл бұрын
I almost got to be in one........
@dnlcast24 жыл бұрын
@@hawaiianairbrushed you mean you build choppers?
@chrisdrummond88934 жыл бұрын
The gold and silver leaf guy is amazing. I paint, and I would love to learn how to do that.
@hawaiianairbrushed4 жыл бұрын
Not so hard, just have to do it..........practice, practice and then you know, more practice:)
@michaelcordero5588 Жыл бұрын
@@hawaiianairbrushed Really?! Lol
@ashtonmariefranklin7255 жыл бұрын
I drive a truck thru Brooklyn on the 278 BQE, and every time i go past the Atlantic ave exit in the left land I see that famous Question mark sticker of Indian Larry.
@journeystarr4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps my favorite biker build off episode ever.
@journeystarr4 жыл бұрын
@Berry Harbour it's Indian Larry, he is a legend
@robertnickel727910 жыл бұрын
Larry shows a lot of class helping out the kid like that. Great man and what a shame he left us so early. Give them both lots of credit for riding 900 miles on those ridgids.
@theimmortalsleazus80574 жыл бұрын
Not softails I didn't even catch that part
@theimmortalsleazus80574 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the old kidney bruising ones. I kinda enjoy the bumpiness
@pat36094 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking old time build old time ride SICK!!!
@71sc5023 жыл бұрын
@@theimmortalsleazus8057 I have a rigid now myself
@michaelcordero5588 Жыл бұрын
I think that Larry was using Paul Cox's Rigidare air seat suspension. I think.
@unlitdarkness68 жыл бұрын
Discovery showed a lot more of the fabrication on this than on something like Fast N Loud. Bring back the fabrication and heavy background music!
@jasongarcia96146 жыл бұрын
unlitdarkness6 bring back the show there are many other bike builders out there to mix it up
@JongiB965 жыл бұрын
The music was bloody epic!
@JongiB965 жыл бұрын
Riff fest.
@vtwinbuilder31295 жыл бұрын
I’m it sure shop owners are all that crazy about taking part in those shows anymore after seein the effect it had on other shops. Almost every shop looses their best help from spinoffs or tensions created by the show. The other major problem is that young people aren’t into this. I watched discovery, TNN (before it became spike) and I couldn’t get my hands on enough hot rod, super Chevy, muscle mustangs, car craft. It’s unfortunate but no one works with their hands and makes stuff anymore. It’s all about texting on your phone, playing video games and all the other stuff kids do these days instead of what we used to do.
@jediknight12944 жыл бұрын
@@vtwinbuilder3129 these buildoffs hurt shops financially as well without hugh king getting parts donated the little guys couldnt do it. Baker tranny 3k, s&s motor 10k, frame and paint 10k easy, labour 10-20k easy without a backer its not doable except for the big boys and now there arent that many of them out there.
@Shamrockjason4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a simpler time in life.. less tech and more human interaction. I miss the late 90's early 2000's... where has the time gone
@dwoolaver15494 жыл бұрын
Late 90s early 2000s what are u 12? Good times were more like the late 60s early 70s.
@fvgc454ss3 жыл бұрын
@@dwoolaver1549 wer u even born in the 90s yet?
@odinsmeadhorn19610 жыл бұрын
Indian larry was the real deal such a class act.
@watchjaredwork14878 жыл бұрын
RIP Indian Larry!!!! What an awesome dude!
@turfguy4203 жыл бұрын
When winter time TV was good...... Rest in peace Larry
@brandonanselman83884 ай бұрын
I'm 23 and have looked up to Indian Larry as long as I can remember. Today is my first day of school for motorcycle mechanics and I had to come back and revisit this video before my first class. In a couple years time me and my friends will have a shop open building bikes because of Indian Larry and the bikes he built that sculpted my love for these machines. RIP to the best to ever do it 🤟
@nouseforaname53784 ай бұрын
No one rides these bikes anymore, you’ll go bankrupt your first year.
@szeglowskip23 жыл бұрын
Cutting the trophy in half really shows that they are more in love with what they do than having bragging rights. R. I. P. Indian Larry
@dertTHEkidd10 жыл бұрын
at 31:13 when they rolled Indian Larry's bike off the trailer, Billy had to be thinking - okay he won.
@vinothg57724 жыл бұрын
True dat.
@dannnyking76453 жыл бұрын
What the hell no way . Billy all day
@jediknight12943 жыл бұрын
Was always gonna come.down.to where the show was. Change thatto a West Coast show and Billy would have won.
@73macrino8 жыл бұрын
R.i.p Indian Larry. Awesome dude, seems to be a down to earth guy and you gotta love how he is for the ride and being with his bros not just for the build off. Love both there styles
@brettd5306 жыл бұрын
Larry's bike hands down. It's a thing of beauty. Looks comfortable to ride also. Larry seems like a real stand up guy too, great dude.
@francisco_dex72797 жыл бұрын
what a great human being larry was
@itapp201210 жыл бұрын
Respect and R.I.P Indian Larry .. We Miss you, love u.
@waynegto1484 Жыл бұрын
Nineteen years later and I watched these guys for the first time. Living in Australia I missed out on seeing them for whatever reason, what a cool bunch of guys. Indian Larry showed that special camaraderie bikers share. RIP Larry
@kevinbacon87164 жыл бұрын
This indian larry bike is my favorite bike in the history of ever.
@tgwazu4 жыл бұрын
Best show of class between brothers ever! My favorite build off, hands down. Indian Larry is gone, R.I.P., but his great example lives on.
@roastbeef4414 жыл бұрын
Larry is a guy you could watch build bikes all day or listen to some crazy stories...but always seemed very approachable. RIP DUDE.
@CombatDoc548 жыл бұрын
I used to think Indian Larry was old. Then when he died, I got old.
@skottlee895928 күн бұрын
Word
@Arizona_Vineyard10 ай бұрын
I haven’t watched this since it aired on discovery. It was a classic and I wanted to rewatch it later in life and see it like it was new to me.
@harvesteronenetwork15598 ай бұрын
Indian Lary and Jesse James got me into bikes. Lary was a one of a kind all-round good dude. I liked how he stayed around to help Billy get his bike done. You could just see the joy on both of their faces getting to work together in person.
@Dionydejesus4 жыл бұрын
This two gentleman gives the word "BADASS" a top new meaning 😎👍
@richoverton4933 жыл бұрын
That was my favorite episode and it has always stuck in my head.
@kerryfischer98793 жыл бұрын
Indian Larry died a year after this, during his 4th biker build off. He died doing his stunt where he stands on the seat while riding down the road. He fell off his bike "grease Monkey" and hit his head he was airlifted to the hospital where he died from serious head trauma. Rest In Peace Indian Larry you were a class act.
@PlutoTheGod2 жыл бұрын
Did the episode ever air? I remember as a kid imitating guys who did that on my bicycle. Could ride on the seat down the road pretty damn good. I can’t imagine falling going 40-50 mph!
@DemnRaig80 Жыл бұрын
No shit
@BrewCityRider8 жыл бұрын
That was a classic. Miss the early episodes of that show. It got stupid later on when they were trying to come up with new ideas. Should have left well enough alone and kept it as is. RIP Indian Larry.
@lonniem97284 жыл бұрын
Agree
@chrisarroyo14314 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this on Discovery channel when it was brand new. Back then I thought Billy's bike was far and away a nicer looking ride but here it is now and I'm watching this years and years later and my tastes have changed and while Billy's bike is still badass and deserves mad respect I find myself gravitating more towards the art by Indian Larry...
@Iswhatitisssss Жыл бұрын
Yeah look at the time when they both ride out of the shop to hit the road. Look how wonky and weird Billy’s handles. Completely unpractical. Nice to park in the shed on display but what a handful to ride, where as Larry’s,you could rip around the city hard and fast all day long
@michaelcordero5588 Жыл бұрын
Same
@donaldxavier2056Ай бұрын
My two favorite bike builders. I love watching this episode. RIP Larry.
@jimbrady36752 жыл бұрын
The single greatest episode of biker build off!
@arthurgonzales97204 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Indian Larry !!! We miss. And love you brother :(
@orangebudiske22693 жыл бұрын
That was the best episode of biker Build-Off 😁
@BRedFilms11 күн бұрын
Just learned about Billy Lane and Indian Larry, and man. I'm so glad that I'm here for it. What an inspiring person Larry is,, for one. And wow what a show of comradery.
@Scrapla1 Жыл бұрын
Larry's bikes are so classic and never get old like those other horrible long stretched early 2000s era's "choppers". I wish Billy Spent more time on making sure his bike ran than worrying about all that tacky bolt on crap.
@toneyfast15824 жыл бұрын
It just dosent seem like the right thing to do. I always remember them words by Indian Larry What a gentlemen he was .
@davewalker10702 жыл бұрын
RIP Indian Larry,you are gone but you will not be forgotten,he died doing what he loved doing the most and that is the greatest honor.
@lowbxxst Жыл бұрын
This is truly amongst some of my favorite footage of anything of all time. The craftsmanship, the respect, the baddassery. The lessons learned. Its wild how we used to be able to click on the tv and just see this. Now its a lifelong lesson. Rip Larry
@DH-ij9pe2 жыл бұрын
Indian Larry is such a class act. His bike was always my favorite when this show was on TV. RIP to the GOAT
@Steve_6432 жыл бұрын
I like Larry’s philosophy to building bikes, he wanted to build a custom chopper that you could be your every day ride.
@chetrok18 жыл бұрын
I think Indian Larry had it right , he built some nice fucking rideable machines
@timothyblackburn68012 жыл бұрын
Larry was a real artist, bike lover, and beautiful human being. This show is proof the the great legend of a man, that the world lost far too soon. RIP Larry. Always missed, and NEVER forgotten.
@stansmad6 жыл бұрын
Geezus , a shame reality garage shows don't show and explain the art of fabrication like this series did.
@71sc5026 жыл бұрын
STAN MADAY exactly man. It defeats the whole purpose
@zeuspit4205 жыл бұрын
I was just telling my buddy about that. Nowadays they just want to sell you a product.
@davekeim77844 жыл бұрын
these two could teach the country about brotherhood and being kind and having respect for each other and working together .and billy if you spent your time on the bike instead of partying you might just be able to build it with out the hassles .their is plenty of time to party after the build.
@trogus0210 жыл бұрын
Yes he was a fabricator. Made parts himself ( Not off the shelf) and the chain bike blew my mind with all the work and exactness it had to have to work. Larry was truly "old school". Cutting brackets off is not the same as building frame parts from scratch.
@jimrosson56976 жыл бұрын
trogus02
@Lucky_Logan2 жыл бұрын
Damn back when TV shows were actually lit enough to watch every week, with actual good content.
@babayaga38664 жыл бұрын
Billy and Larry had nothing but respect for one another. 2 builders with 2 different styles yet they saw the good in their creations. They didn't mock or knock each other down. Comeraderie at its best!
@eddieking29768 жыл бұрын
I miss this series. I miss Larry.
@edwinsantiago52937 жыл бұрын
imiss larry the best biker build of.💪💪👍
@sidneypendergrass96888 жыл бұрын
I miss Indian Larry. I wish that I could meet him and shake. his hand and to tell thanks for his hard work building choppers the 60's and 70's way.
@nickojo20034 жыл бұрын
Same sidney pendergrass he was a true Pioneer & legend. R.i.P Larry
@charlesmcclune8892Ай бұрын
Discovery Channel's Great Biker Build Off has been my inspiration in designing my own training gear for swimming 🤔 these guys go way beyond just creative bike building 😮 it's pure inspiration of idea, design, create 😎
@justincase9485 жыл бұрын
The build offs aren’t the same !!! This. Was the best one !!!
@juanpablo214710 жыл бұрын
RIP Indian Larry... We miss you.
@henryjablonski57206 жыл бұрын
THE ONE THING I LOVE ABOUT BOOZE AND DRUGS IS I CAN WATCH THESE OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND NOT REMEMBERS WHO WIN...
@normn115 жыл бұрын
haha thought the same thing
@lapdog14795 жыл бұрын
You're right! It's a wonderful thing.
@Recycledhooligan3 жыл бұрын
Indian Larry made me want to start riding bikes I just liked his attitude he seemed so genuine just one cool man that never was anything but himself that’s what I took away from watching him on tv never meet him but he got me into bikes thanks Larry rip
@refiii94993 жыл бұрын
Keeping things simple is always better. Larry’s bike is absolutely gorgeous! Billy’s bike looks so uncomfortable but it is a sick bike. Larry was always the nicest guy and was awesome how he handled this whole build off.
@TheGuccibane4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this when it originally aired. I miss these shows
@zunaydhassan94886 жыл бұрын
Larry's motorcycles are really beautiful, awesome, lovely, attractive, comfortable but not affordable! Hahaha
@bulldogcomputer Жыл бұрын
I helped my dad with a sales booth at a bike show in Texas. Neither of us are bikers and don't really fit into that world. Indian Larry stopped by our booth on the first day and struck up a conversation with me and my father who is a retired USAF colonel. He was really nice guy and seemed to really enjoy conversations with my father over that weekend. We were both really sad to hear how he passed away. We saw him do that same stunt. He was a one of a kind and a great free spirit American.
@joeycuts67657 жыл бұрын
this is 100% the best episode out of all them to me at least because they are both my favorite builder's ....
@hugolafhugolaf4 жыл бұрын
Back when Discovery actually aired good shows.
@82maxim12 жыл бұрын
2 amazing builders and 2 amazing bikes!!!! RIP LARRY
@squarebody8866 Жыл бұрын
Larry was such a class act stand up guy!! Much respect to the legend
@4486xxdawson4 жыл бұрын
R I P Larry the king of fabrications . The last of the true builders . Nobody came close to this mans talent , i would have never went against him in a build off i would just hand him the trophy.
@shlonk6 жыл бұрын
Larry’s bike still looks good today
@docgima11 жыл бұрын
@alca61 thanks for posting this man, it brought back some good memories. i was lucky to meet Indian Larry a few times and he was a good guy.
@excelsior311077 ай бұрын
I am proud to be the only lone wolf in my country who has seen and touched Larry's Wild Child motorcycle at his shop in Brooklyn, New York several years ago. The motorcycle is not for sale as it is a part of commemorating Larry's legacy which I respect.
@LonesomeNomad1373 жыл бұрын
That’s the second time I watched this video, can’t wait to watch it again. True Biker Bro’s
@marcelosantossoares256110 жыл бұрын
Idian Larry, is the man!!!!
@jroxx1121110 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. LARRY
@jyajboots Жыл бұрын
This video was an epic adventure! Being an avid bike rider from the qge of 9 through my mid 50's, putting countless thousands of miles under my wheels while also modifying dozens of bikes, this really hits home for me. Thanks for sharing this awesome experience.
@kimoleopoldo28333 жыл бұрын
Indian larry . Represents to the fullest. His attitude is an example of lifestyle BORN TO BE WILD, and the American dream. He has no problem having fun. a man who does. God bless america. Thanks Larry your style
@kopynd18 жыл бұрын
just completed my retro indian build, in memory of indian larry, all hand build by myself, building old school for over 40 years, based on the 46 model with 4 inch unders leafers, got to be my best build yet, 12 months to build. e uploading to youtube, TFF custom cycles
@jlloyd2004mcs4 жыл бұрын
Anybody else just fast-forward through the Billy Lane parts?
@sujithjayasinghe48183 жыл бұрын
Lot of respect to Larry. Lot to learn from these two greats about humanity. May you two live long to teach the world about mutual respect. Thsnk you
@pinsboy3 жыл бұрын
Man I like Larry's style and discipline. He wants to make a working comfortable high performance bike with style and experimentation that you could ride for life. It's not just a showpiece it's a bike for ridding. Flashy and functional. I would have loved to met and talked with him.