The Greatest Book of Jewish Philosophy Ever Written
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Күн бұрынIntroducing the greatest work of Jewish philosophy ever written. Maimonide’ Guide to the Perplexed. Moving masterfully through a thousand years of Greek, Jewish and Muslim philosophy, this text grapples profoundly with the problem of evil, the nature of reality and the meaning of life. Culminating with an astonishing re-reading of the Bible, which radically redefines God, religion and humanity in the process.
Banned and burned by religious authorities, it continues to stir controversy hundreds of years later, perplexing the guided, and guiding the perplexed… Join us as we explore Moses Maimonides’ Guide of the Perplexed, the Rambam’s Moreh Nevuchim.
Full “Maimonides and Mysticism” Series: • Maimonides' Mysticism
1 Biography: Who was Maimonides?: • The Genius who Reshape...
2 Literature Review: Survey of Scholars on Rambam: • How Many Maimonides ar...
3 Reception History: Maimonides and the Kabbalists: • Maimonides and the Kab...
4 Clarifying Terms: Kabbalah, Mysticism and Rationalism: • Maimonides the Rationa...
5 A Guide to the Guide: • The Greatest Book of J...
6 The Forgery: The Theology of Aristotle and Maimonides Negative Theology: • The Forgery that Foole...
7 Maimonides' Cosmology and Prophecy: • Becoming an Angel in M...
8 How to Unite with the Mind of God: Maimonides’ Epistemology and Providence: • How to Unite with the ...
9 Maimonides’ Perfect Death: Walkthru of Guide 3.51: • The "Mystical Chapter"...
10 Maimonides’ Path to God: Analysis of 3.51: • Maimonides’ Path to God
11 Light, Love and Silence: Maimonides’ Divine Illumination, Religious Langue and Negative Theology: • Maimonides’ Mysticism ...
12 Maimonides, Agnostic or Mystic: • Was Maimonides a Skept...
13 Maimonides’ Last Puzzle: The Riddle at the End of the Guide: • The Riddle at the End ...
14 Maimonides and the Lost Secrets of Israel: • Maimonides and the Los...
Bonus:
15 Maimonides’ Hasidic Afterlife: Chabad and Rambam: • Maimonides’ Hasidic Af...
16 Maimonides’ Crisis of Faith: Discussion with David Fried: • Maimonides’ Crisis of ...
00:00 A Guide to the Guide
01:39 Maimonides Series Recap
02:22 Intro, Influence, Controversy
05:22 Overview of the Guide
09:00 Maimonides’ Sources
12:35 Maimonides’ Puzzle
14:53 The Goal of the Guide
Sources and Further Reading
• Elliot Wolfson, “Beneath the Wings of the Great Eagle: Maimonides and Thirteenth-Century Kabbalah,” in Moses Maimonides, 2004, p. 213.
• Joel Kraemer, “Maimonides and the Spanish Aristotelian School,” in Christians, Muslims, and Jews in Medieval and Early Modern Spain, 1999.
• Joel Kraemer, Maimonides: The Life and World of One of Civilization’s Greatest Minds, New York: Doubleday, 2008.
• Joel Kraemer, Moses Maimonides: An Intellectual Portrait, in The Cambridge Companion to Maimonides, Kenneth Seeskin (ed.), 2005, pp. 40-45.
• Joseph Citron, Maimonides and Mysticism, (unpublished), 2005.
• Julius Guttmann, “Introduction” in Maimonides, The Guide of The Perplexed, An Abridged Edition, East and West Library New York, 1947.
• Leo Strauss, "How To Begin To Study The Guide," in The Guide of the Perplexed, tr. Pines, pp. xiii-xiv.
• Mark Daniels, “The Perplexing Nature of the Guide for the Perplexed” in Philosophy Now 50:20-22, 2005.
• Menachem Kellner, "Maimonides' Disputed Legacy," in Traditions of Maimonideanism, ed. Carlos Fraenkel (Leiden: Brill, 2009), 245-76.
• Moses Maimonides, “Introduction” in The Guide of the Perplexed, translated by Shlomo Pines, 1963.
• Moshe Idel, “Maimonides' Guide of the Perplexed and the Kabbalah” in Jewish History 18: 197-226, 2004.
• Sarah Stroumsa, Maimonides in His World, Portrait of a Mediterranean Thinker, 2009.
• Shlomo Pines, “Translator's Introduction: The Philosophical Sources of The Guide of the Perplexed.” The Guide of the Perplexed, 1963.
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@hamoodi1510 2 жыл бұрын
As a muslim, I have been looking for a channel like this for ages. I am so happy you popped into my feed!!!
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome Hamoodi. Glad you found us. Welcome to the channel. Much love, Zevi
@danielsempere9507 Жыл бұрын
@Hamoodi me too brother :)
@taitaisanchez 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Norse neopagan but Maimonides perspective is so refreshing and good and fills me with my own faith. Our faiths don’t have to be the same to drive us to the same acts of thoughtfulness or empathy or compassion. It just has to drive us.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir.
@magikyuu3279 18 күн бұрын
I am a norse pagan too! I am trying to connect to my roots as my dad's side is jewish.
@saadabbas8976 2 жыл бұрын
“Forbearance, conviction, justice, and struggle against evil(ego)”
@kpllc4209 2 жыл бұрын
"Many learned men have disputed it but in the 13 century the Rambam said......." Walter Sobchak - The Big Lebowski I always wanted to know what the Rambam said
@kpllc4209 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of movies, filmmaker Werner Herzog named his book A Guide For the Perplexed
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Hehehe
@heqaib 2 жыл бұрын
I think that understanding will take years of study.
@kpllc4209 2 жыл бұрын
The Dude sums it up when he tells Walter that he is living in the past.
@christopher-johnbompas9729 2 жыл бұрын
What an epic introduction Zevi. It's hard to appreciate the level of care and research that goes into explaining an intellectual and spiritual visionary of the stature of Maimonides. I can't wait until the next instalment.
@phdra8283 2 жыл бұрын
just wanted to say, you and the seekers of unity channel are a beacon of hope in this dark world! thank you for doing this important work :)
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kind friend. That really means a lot to us. It’s kindness like this that keeps us going.
@williamjmccartan8879 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Zevi, the poetic nature of your description of his work is good for the soul. Peace
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Mmm. Thank you William. Your appreciation is good for the soul :) Love
@artkoenig9434 2 жыл бұрын
I am delighted in your clarity of expression and the humor of your many images. Thank you!
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome friend. Glad you appreciated it. Welcome to the channel. With love, Zevi
@Jason-ms8bv 2 жыл бұрын
This series has been so enlightening and educational thanks to you Zevi (and Justin, and Filip and Dan) for going on this amazing trip and taking us along for the ride!
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason for joining us on it :)
@Jason-ms8bv 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhays2846 Dan Atrell on Modern Hermetesist is also currently putting out work on Maimonides I don't think it's in collaboration with these guys but it's good
@Jason-ms8bv 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhays2846 Happy to spread the knowledge fellow seeker!
@termination9353 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the commandment "Remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt" [Deuteronomy 5:15] NOT included/enumerated in those depictions of the Ten Commandments Tablets of Moses that are in every synagogue and every siddur prayer book when the Torah says that commandment WAS inscribed on those Tablets?
@termination9353 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhays2846 What are you talking about?
@xenocrates2559 2 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful. I have spent time studying Sefer ha Mitzvot and, to my surprise, I enjoyed it. That was years ago. It's good to come back to this sublime thinker. Thanks.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
@Devotionalpoet 2 жыл бұрын
This series is super interesting. Can't wait for the next one! Very enlightening and beautifully written talk. Thank you!
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Victoria 🙏🏼 Us too :)
@M.M.M- 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Zevi :) The idea of the book according to Maimonides is linked to another central Islamic sufi concept, which is the concept of the complete human being (perfect human), which represents for the Sufis the highest position in the spiritual levels, through which the aspirant can reach the full awareness of the G-d without an intermediary. Maimonides developed a concept very similar to the concept of the Muslim Sufis in his book. Maimonides used many philosophical mystical sufi terms such as unity, adoration, separation to him and closeness to him, and many other things was taken from the Sufi literature such as prayers , words and numbers world, silent prayers, and these examples of mystical usage later allowed to the Jewish thinkers to identify the mystical philosophy of Judaism. Did Maimonides present sufi Islamic ideas that contradict Jewish teachings but are compatible with Sufism ?
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome M.M. We’re going to discuss all that in due course 🙏🏼
@ipsofacto2988 2 жыл бұрын
Mohammed plagarized, stole, overwrote and bastardized the texts of the Jews. It's just that simple. Can't listen to anything regarding that psychopath.
@tannerlynam2559 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Wow. Wow.! That was an incredible introduction to this work...thank you very much!
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome Tanner. Thank you for joining us :)
@PathOfAvraham 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully written thank you for sharing with the community Zevi ❤
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome. Thank you my friend.
@kkolodner 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I love the fact that you don't fall into intellectual detachment. I can tell that its a subject dear to your heart. Looking foward for more
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. These are matters of the heart. The intelligent is only a facade ;)
@yosefzee7605 2 жыл бұрын
Breath of fresh air! I loved it!
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother. Glad you enjoyed it.
@termination9353 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the commandment "Remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt" [Deuteronomy 5:15] NOT included/enumerated in those depictions of the Ten Commandments Tablets of Moses that are in every synagogue and every siddur prayer book when the Torah says that commandment WAS inscribed on those Tablets?
@OBK770 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic lesson - very much looking foward to the next part trying to put any bias aside : )
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ta :) With love, Zevi
@tonyrandall3146 2 жыл бұрын
Well timed post and click. I can't get through a page without putting it down.
@donaldmartineau8176 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and blinding intro & WAY over my head,
@fusunsanac 2 жыл бұрын
It is getting more and more curious! Ehat a multi layered person. Thank you Zevi 🙏🏼😇
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe. Thank you Füsun ☺️🙏🏼
@termination9353 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the commandment "Remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt" [Deuteronomy 5:15] NOT included/enumerated in those depictions of the Ten Commandments Tablets of Moses that are in every synagogue and every siddur prayer book when the Torah says that commandment WAS inscribed on those Tablets?
@yadidlechem2357 2 жыл бұрын
This is Wonderful.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Yadid.
@rada7864 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!🌹
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome 🙏🏼 Thank you Rada
@ReynaSingh 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if you’ve covered this already on the channel, but it’d be interesting if you could go over the role of debate and the written word in Judaism. The importance of debate is something that is unique to Judaism from what I’ve seen- the emphasis on the question as opposed to the answer
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Reyna. Those are some great subjects we’d love to address. Thank you for joining to learn with us. It’s humbling. We’re big fans of your work.
@darensamuel4490 2 жыл бұрын
What tribe you from?
@darensamuel4490 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity What is your biblical nationality?
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the question. Sorry.
@darensamuel4490 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity Everyone living today has a bloodline that goes back to the people in the bible,me I'm an Israelite from the tribe of Benjamin..
@thesuperhero 2 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely beautiful. I wish I could be in an in person class of yours.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Super Hero. I guess you are virtually :)
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
1:30 Wow! I hadn't realized it was 'Guide OF the perplexed'! How very humble of him.
@inverselyproportional6506 2 жыл бұрын
bless your soul, brother
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you friend 🙏🏼
@murraywilloughby7116 2 жыл бұрын
Reading "The Complete Jewish Study Bible" by Rabbi Barry Rubin and David H. Stern led me to Maimonides and Josephus, which in turn led me to "The Syriac Clementine Recognitions and Homilies: The First Complete Translation of the Text" by Joseph Gebhardt-Klein I would have to say it was the later that left me "Un-Perplexed."
@dutchvanderlinde2516 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing as always, and I've meant to ask you if there are anymore videos coming up on Abulafia, who's been of great intrigue for myself and for many. Anyways this was fantastic and your scholarly work in this new medium is second to none as always. Great work and much love
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother. I’m so glad you enjoyed it. We don’t have anything scheduled on Abulafia. But there’s a lot of continuity between the mysticism of the Guide and Abulafia. So maybe. Good to see you again. Much love, Zevi
@dutchvanderlinde2516 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity Thank you for your reply and yes it was greatly enjoyed, and if its not too much trouble, I'd love to ask you again of a video of leonard cohen, in 1964, in which he spoke of the repair of G-d, and other such things, and i was happy to see you had commented on such a video, so yes what i had meant to ask, if you are familiar with leonard cohens relationship to kaballah, and your thoughts about him as a seeker of unity, like a very many mystics, Jewish and otherwise, who came before.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion. I will add it to our videos to do list. Thank you.
@EverythingHumorous 4 ай бұрын
חזק וברוך!
@FortYeah 2 жыл бұрын
@ 0:0:55 42 : the response to the question of the meaning of life !
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
😉
@joannkelly7994 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome.
@yep999 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully Articulated
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you friend :)
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
5:11 EXACTLY! And nothing has changed!
@ryanrud7698 Жыл бұрын
well done!
@SeekersofUnity Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan 🙏🏼
@singhjasbeer5216 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see in upcoming videos the ‘Cosmological and Teleological Arguments for God’ mentioned @6:38 in this video. Thanks for this Zevi🙏
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome Singh. Not sure if we’ll get to those this time round but perhaps in the future 🙏🏼
@singhjasbeer5216 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity Cosmology is the most fascinating thing in the mystic world. I shall wait for the day no matter which day in future.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes. We’ll be discussing his cosmology at considerable length in this series. But not his cosmological argument for the existence of God.
@singhjasbeer5216 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity That is so nice to hear
@dervilderness290 2 жыл бұрын
Just found ur channel. Yashar koach!
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome :)
@xizhengzhang6210 2 жыл бұрын
Which English scholarly translation and edition of the guide for the perplexed would you recommend?
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Sholom Pines’ translation is considered the most accurate scholarly edition. Freidlander’s (available on Sefaria) can be a little more natural to read sometimes.
@DJW1981 2 жыл бұрын
As a perpetually perplexed personage I perhaps ought to peruse this publication to prompt possibilities of personal progression. ;) Keep it up Zevi, love ya.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe. Best of luck with it. Love ya ;)
@yosefzee7605 2 жыл бұрын
The Book of Beleifs and opinions is also great. Maimonides took off his hat to Saadya Gaon.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt.
@termination9353 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the commandment "Remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt" [Deuteronomy 5:15] NOT included/enumerated in those depictions of the Ten Commandments Tablets of Moses that are in every synagogue and every siddur prayer book when the Torah says that commandment WAS inscribed on those Tablets?
@angelitoramire Жыл бұрын
God bless you 🙏🏾
@SeekersofUnity Жыл бұрын
God bless those who bless 😘
@krasbauer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! quick question : do you think Guide to the perplexed can be read translated, in english or arabic, or does it lose it's "puzzle" side ? Can't wait for the next videos !
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
I think it becomes more of a puzzle when translated. Because it adds additional layers of difficulty and complexity, trying to read back through the English (let’s say) to the Hebrew, to the Arabic. A fun challenge indeed.
@derpderpina1804 2 жыл бұрын
The guide is written in arabic !
@krasbauer 2 жыл бұрын
@@derpderpina1804 Arabic but with Hebrew letters !
@emadmasroor5317 2 жыл бұрын
@@krasbauer you can find it in Arabic letters here sepehr.mohamadi.name/download/DelalatolHaerin.pdf
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Thank you!
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome. Glad you liked it.
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity Yes. Really good. Did you see my comment below concerning the 'Trinity' as Shirk? And the one on the Middle English terms? I don't know if you've seen my main comments.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to say. The comment section can be fickle.
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity THIS IS THE TRINITY COMMENT: 6:07 Ok. So here we have a HUGE problem. Because Islam and Judaism declare the 'Trinity' to be Shirk. Which it is not. This is PRECISELY a case of applying the 'materialistic' understanding to profound theosophy. The 'Trinity' presents the TRANSACTION between God and Man, and the non-dual integration of Man with God. It's NOT a case of "God having a body". It's a case of all that there is, being God. The non-dual integration of Man with God, means that 'me', 'I', 'ego', disappears. And all that remains is God. The understanding is based on NOT positing 'Divine' versus 'human'. GENESIS 1: 26 Man - has been done - as OUR likeness - as OUR character. אֱלֹהִ֔ים כִּדְמוּתֵ֑נוּ בְּצַלְמֵ֖נוּ נַֽעֲשֶׂ֥ה אָדָ֛ם - God Himself has not separated himself from you. You state; "God doesn't have a body". This relies on you presenting yourself as being SEPARATE from God. The 'dualistic' model. In the non-dual integration of Man with God, God doesn't have 'a' body; but he has 'your' body. So what we our breaking with this understanding, is one's view of 'ordinary self'. We're transforming that into a Divine identity. In Tantra, this is called 'holding Divine Pride'. To 'hold' Divine Pride for a sustained length of time and ultimately never fall out of it again, is EXTREMELY difficult. The 'Trinity' is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of Shirk. The ONLY thing which you 'partner' with God is your 'self', until all that remains is God. It's a total SURRENDERING. Shirk is to 'partner' the god SCIENCE with God. For example. Sometimes you're IN God and sometimes YOU want to 'control'. The Luciferian mindset. As Rabbi 'the word' Joshua states: JOHN 14: 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. The Rabbi of Christianity is 'the crucified 'jew' '. They're calling the revolt of 4 B. C. E. the 'messianic' revolt. Which was crushed by Publius Quinctilius Varus, who crucified 2,000 Judahians (according to Wikipedia). So this is how we have the Abrahmic 'split' into 3. Through broken linguistic bridges, they can't understand each other's theosophies. - 8:19 Ok. So here, this is interesting. Because again, I would say that the concept of 'free will' is dependent on 'separateness' from God. If we are IN God, what is our will? Is it our will or God's will? If we are IN God, it can only be God's will. 8:40 So again, we've lost 'the human IN God'. Who is what? Is he/she/they not human? Is he/she/they not God?
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity This is the 'jew/jesus' comment: 2:15 I'm all for you "cleaning up the language"! But why not start with 'jew'? The racist Middle English term from Old French, of those that couldn't manage the second syllable. I refuse to use it now. 'Jew', 'Jesus' and 'the messiah' all surfaced in Middle English. You state that you seek 'unity' but how will you get 'unity' if you persist in using the DIVISIVE linguistics of Middle English? See how they posit 'jew' versus 'Jesus' and then 'the messiah' surfaces. First of all, the Rabbi which they refer to was a Judahian. Secondly, there is NO ONE called 'Jesus'. The Greek declares moshiach Joshua or Joshua. Never anything else. And thirdly, 'moshiach' is NOT 'messiah'. Moshiach is 'christos' in Greek and 'messias' in Latin. They INVENTED 'messiah' from 'messias'. If we want 'unity', we have to courageously reinvent ourselves and our linguistic approaches. 2:54 I studied this with my Rabbi and didn't find Aristotle to be lacking in 'faith'.
@TR-ox2ef 2 жыл бұрын
I must add that the rebbe was very exact to call this work of the Rambam moreh HAnevuchin.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The Rebbe in fact often refers to the Rambam’s Mishna Torah as the real Moreh Nevuchim.
@mottiecohen3332 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting in the work to produce this fantastically well researched and produced video! My brother and I have a podcast entitled Jewish Thoughtflow where we go through many hashkafically challenging areas in Judaism. I would love if you gave it a look!
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome Mottie. Looking forward to checking out your work.
@dendennis9060 2 жыл бұрын
Thank U, infinite intelligence. ♾
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
13:07 Ah! This is very important! 'The truth' cannot be shared with those that will 'corrupt' it.
@psciunn 2 жыл бұрын
it would be interesting to compare the Guide of Maimonides with Rabbi Levi Ben Ghershom in the “Milchamot HaShem”. In my opinion Milchamot HaShem is more structured in depth.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a fascinating comparison.
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
18:33 The 'heart' IS 'the mind'. The seat of the mind is at the 'heart'. Not in the head.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
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@GaviLazan 2 жыл бұрын
When I was studying it (only mad it about 40 chapters in) it amazed me that he spent almost 1/3 of his entire book just going over definitions. "When they say that He sat on the divine throne, they don't mean that He literally sat..." "By saying the God took the Israelites out of Egypt 'with a strong arm', this is figurative, since God doesn't have an arm..." I wonder if there was an actual need for this, instead of having a single opening chapter that says "All physical and anthropomorphized descriptions and actions pertaining to God are figurative and should not be taken literally". Maybe he wanted to drill it into the reader's mind through repetition, since we all know that repetition legitimizes. I wonder if there was an actual need for this, instead of having a single opening chapter that says "All physical and anthropomorphized descriptions and actions pertaining to God are figurative and should not be taken literally". Maybe he wanted to drill it into the reader's mind through repetition, since we all know that repetition legitimizes.
@joelsalminen1357 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment ;D I wonder if there was an actual need of this. Maybe you wanted to drill it into the reader's mind through repetition, since we all know that repetition legitimizes.
@ready1fire1aim1 2 жыл бұрын
The Shekhinah, like the other avatars of God, was created when a stray shot by Khaos hit God and blasted a piece of him. Instead of recovering all the fallen pieces, God decided to transform some of them into new beings, so as not to destroy Creation with his power. At some point during the Bronze Age, the Shekhinah began working alongside her brother, Yahweh, and became his consort. When Yahweh decided to help Moses deliver the people of Israel from Egypt, she led the Hebrews through the desert like a pillar of cloud and fire. After Moses created the Ark of the Covenant, the Shekhinah rested there.
@DanKaraJordan Жыл бұрын
Now that you have done a guide to the 'Guide', you will need to do an incoherence of 'The Incoherence of the Incoherence '
@alchemistsanonymous6558 2 жыл бұрын
4:58
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
0:30 Lol! 0:33 Yes. I've just been debating it with my Rabbi! You must have heard me!
@Agent_Intellect 2 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, the extra book of philosophical influence on the RAMBAM besides Aristotle was either the Theology of Aristotle, or maybe the Book of Causes (ie. the Liber de Causis).
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You’re guessing good ;)
@parrotraiser6541 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if a decent, inexpensive, edition was generally available. Even the copy from the local library was shabby, cramped, and rather tattered.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
😢
@thhunter2 2 жыл бұрын
go rest!!! Thanks so much
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
🙈 Thank you
@zevilover3591 2 жыл бұрын
What does that actually mean?
@guidefortheperplexed7301 Жыл бұрын
The work is more about reconciling the intellect and Judaism than about reconciling Aristotle and Moses. For the intellect to work out as the key to religious sucess, religion has to work through the elements that the intellect can deal with: data and order. Thus, the Guide places huge emphasis on nature and following observations in the book. Of course, the absurdities of a literal reading of the Bible have to be read another way, so the Guide places emphasis on this as well. Those who see the book as merely blending Greek philosophy and Jewish religion fail to see that relegating Judsaism to the mystical makes it meaningless in terms of acheiving any level of success in the observable world. They have to read all of the promises of the Torah as metaphor for some unobservable world, references to "wisdom" as metaphor for paradoxical knowledge of things that cannot be known, and references to any sort of human understanding of the commandments as "sweet nothings."
@the_famous_reply_guy 2 жыл бұрын
JOSEPH BEN JUDAH IBN 'AḲNIN (in Arabic, Abu al-Hajjaj Yusuf ibn Yaḥya ibn Sham'un al-Sabti from Morroco was educated in Christianity, Judaism and Islamic text. No writings exist to suggest he practice any religious systems.
@helenbostock2350 2 жыл бұрын
I am a woman. Now I don't fear him I love him as a father. I respect him for what he did for me. His words like the bible words are written by humans hand. I think the holy one held the mind pen
@Zonno5 Ай бұрын
yep that only could be rambam
@termination9353 2 жыл бұрын
A guide to making one perplexed. .
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe
@yosefzee7605 2 жыл бұрын
Did spinoza really admire maimonides ? doesn't he rail at him throughout his tpt?
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
He most certainly did. Sometimes we rail at the people we admire. So might go so far as to call him a Maimonidean.
@danieljackson654 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Personally, the narrative would benefit from a more colloquial style. While there are many points that could be refined, one point I think is critical for The Guide is the distinction between PRAXIS and Philosophy. Most western trained "intellectuals" use terms like "mysticism" and "Philosophy" becoming mired in the superficiality of Hellenistic influences. Ignored is the steady flow of intellectual and mathematical creativity from the East (for example, where did the Arabic numerals derive). From that perspective, The Guide writes of Apprehension of Being, or Transcendence, and Praxis (or, Meditation, see Bk III, chapter 32). Philosophy carries the connotation of a Creed whereas Praxis attaches to establishing Apprehension in Consciousness. A good start.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel 🙏🏼
@danieljackson654 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity You are more than welcome. I admire what you are starting to do with The Guide. As a nod to disclosure, I am a student of The Guide continuing a daily Praxis over the last twenty three years. I started in New York under the inspiration of Rabbi Walter Wurzburger who pushed me to explore the question of Consciousness in The Guide. I have a Chaver who lives in Israel where I long to return. God, May He be exalted, fill you with the Light of Flashes guiding you along the Way, the sentiment of Psalm 91.
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
13:49 Well this is perhaps a 'point of view'. We can also argue that the Divine Will is always exposed. But that the 'obscurations' which come and go our ours. 15:03 "But the body is only half the picture." In our absorptions into intellectual and spiritual pursuits, we 'forget' to alleviate the very extreme human suffering through 'killing' which goes on every day. We have become 'desensitized'. We revel in phylosophical and theosophical discourse and accept the daily horrors as 'normal' occurrences. This is very negative. We omit the PRACTICAL application of what we are doing, which is to alleviate suffering. STARTING with the 'bodies' of the victims of daily 'killing'. 15:37 "..to lift them above the chaos and turmoil of every day life to a mode of being characterized rather by order, restraint, moderation and equanimity.' In relation to 'others', equinimity means 'no holding some close and others distant'. A breaking of the mind that 'loves' some and 'hates' others and feels 'completely indifferent' to most. 15:59 Well ok. But equanimity is the care for the 'health' of others and all. Not just 'ones' health. 17:39 And now 'the alleviation of suffering' is where?
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Mmm nice. Thank you.
@ahmedtb051 2 жыл бұрын
Kabbalalists when they attain the spirtual reality, thier expression seem to those who dont attained it as philosophy.
@ramkitty 2 жыл бұрын
Have you encoded secrets in the demonic cut transitions zevi.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Heheh. Yes. My secret dyslexia ;)
@shloimeslavin5309 5 ай бұрын
Unbelievable
@giffica 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree that guide for the perplexed is anywhere near the monumental work that is the Mishneh Torah.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. We appreciate disagreement. The Guide and the Mishnah Torah belong to two different genres. The Guide is a work of philosophy while the Mishnah Torah a work of Halacha. We were not comparing the two.
@BcClarity 2 жыл бұрын
The other 'Moses' had no issues with channeling the Divine. Moses 1 was a hot-head. Yahweh mercifully gave him a do-over only to find the golden calf. The trials of a Patriarch. No Patreon in those days. xoxo
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
😏
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
7:06 Yes. My Rabbi also posits 'nothing'. However the texts reads "created the heavens and the earth". Which doesn't present 'from nothing'. Rather a 'division' between 'above' and 'below'. 7:22 Well we can argue 'nothing' versus 'eternal quarks and leptons' till the cows come home. But we need to ask ourselves as to whether this makes any difference at all in practical terms. I don't think WORLD PEACE is gonna be affected by whether we posit 'nothing' or posit 'eternal quarks and leptons'. 11:24 Well according to my Rabbi, this is the main difference between Maimonides' view and Aristotle. The view of 'from nothing' versus God and the universe as 'parallels'. However, where is the notion of 'from nothing' coming from?
@ocevicheband502 2 жыл бұрын
Simon Sharma sounds shrill in the " Jewish Quarterly " . Chabad Lubavitch cultists round about are a problem.
@rizzierodipaolo1859 2 жыл бұрын
After studying Kabbalah from a Jewish kabbalist, I can confidently say that it (the Kabbalah) is fundamentally no different than hermeticism/western esotericism. If you don't know what that means, they are terms for what we call today "ceremonial magick" or "witchcraft". Whether it's Qabalah, Kabalah, Kabbalah, or any variation of the spelling, it's all the same. I am sorry for ever delving into this stuff. But now that I understand it, I am that much more equipped to help destroy it.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
You sure it wasn’t a Jewish Capitalist with a ‘C’ teaching Das Kapital with a ‘K’?
@the_famous_reply_guy 2 жыл бұрын
Rather snarky considering Karl was Jewish.
@ocevicheband502 2 жыл бұрын
Don't rush ahead too much Maimonedes measured himself.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Word.
@LawofMoses 2 жыл бұрын
I have read it and know it shows most of rabbinic decisions are not of God. I am reading Mesilat yeshiram There is nothing contradictory in the Quran for someone like me who lives God's Torah and walks with God daily.
@ready1fire1aim1 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus the Splendor, also just called Jesus, is a Fragment of the Primordial God known as the Father of Greatness, being the Manichaeism equivalent of Christian Jesus. Like the Yeshua of the Christian religion, he is a kind, honest and very gentle deity. In Manichaeism, Jesus is considered one of the four prophets of this religion, along with Zoroaster, Gautama Buddha, and Mani. He is also a "guiding deity" who greets the light bodies of the righteous upon their deliverance. Like the Christian Jesus, he lived from 0 to 33 CE, being worshiped as the Son of God, and the Savior who rose from the dead. The religion of Manichaeism is a Gnostic religion, so unlike the Christian religion where the Messiah is the incarnation of God the Son, in Manichaeism there is a distinction between the physical and historical Jesus and the spiritual Jesus, with the human Yeshua being an aspect of the spiritual Christos. NOTE: Like his Gnostic counterpart, it is unknown whether this "version" of Jesus has any direct connection to Jesus Prime. It can be said that their relationship is the same as the avatars of God such as Allah, Yahweh and Elohim, each being an incarnation of the Creator.
@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH 2 жыл бұрын
Torah was bestowed to moses
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Which one? 😉
@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity tbh I thought it was a single book
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
The Torah is compromised of many books and many Moses’. Some of it isn’t even in books ;)
@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity sorry brother i am muslim. We only know god has 4 holy books amd torah was for moses and injil for jesus. Zabur for david. I have little knowledge about torah. Apologies for the comment
@mihailgae-draghici4864 2 жыл бұрын
@@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH Zabur CXLVII 19 - 20, Halleluiah / HaShem!
@carminefragione4710 2 жыл бұрын
Maimonides "Rambam" said "The orbit of Mercury is closer to Earth than the orbit of Venus". That just so happened to be the belief in Islamic astronomy , but it was not the Truth. So Moses Maimonides was just another Medieval Crackpot, and I would rank Nostradamus as a better soothsayer than Rambam.
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
8:53 Oh I see, you're referring to The Perfection of Wisdom. Ok. You don't have to show us the statue. You could have left HHDL. He holds The Six Perfections including The Perfection of Morality and The Perfection of Wisdom. I don't know what you mean by 'intellectual' perfection. I don't believe that there is such a thing. 8:59 Well no. The Perfection of Morality is no different to "ethical perfection". The perfection which comes as a result of knowing God would be 'perfect action'. (And perfect speech). 10:08 You're chasing 'intelligence', 'intellectual' perfection. Intelligence is 'emotional'.
@jdjd2059 2 жыл бұрын
02:48 לדעתי הנה הכיוון אל הנכון, הנבוכים שעליהם דיבר הרמבם הם רק אלו ששלטו היטב בידיעת התנך, משנה, תלמוד, ומדרשי חז"ל, הלכה ומסורת. ורק לאחר שהגיעו לדרגת מלומדים באמת, המבינים דבר מתוך דבר, ניתן היה לומר עליהם נבוכים. כי מלומדים אלו, התמודדו עם השפעות חיצוניות שפגעו בחלקים החלשים מהמרקם היהודי בתפוצות, והיו צריכים להשיב על טענות הדתות השונות, המתנגשות עם האמונה הצרופה, ומקשות על הלא מלומדים, ללכת בנתיב האמת. הדיוק הוא: המלומדים לא היו זקוקים לכל זה לצורך עצמם. הרמבם הנשר הגדול בעל יצירת המופת מורה נבוכים, לא היה הראשון שנאבק בהשפעת האמונות הזרות באמצעות כלי הפילוסופיה, קדמו לו, ריה"ל, רס"ג, פילון האלכסנדרוני ועוד. כולם עמדו בשער ונלחמו מלחמתה של תורה בשביל להציל את הפתאים. לסיכום: המלומדים והמשכילים לא היו בכלל הסכנה ולא היה צורך להציל אותם.
@chuckerstuffmacguffin7506 2 жыл бұрын
If I used one word to describe both my racial identity and religious tradition such as you Jewish types do it would be a perplexing circumstance indeed. In fact it would be so perplexing I would be in favor of an organization that legally protected my conflated identities from criticism of any kind, whether they be expressed publicly or privately by the offender. I could also see myself easily slipping into a victimized mentality where I point out to others who have not lived or experienced such a confused perplexity that my people have been marginalized, persecuted, exiled, enslaved, genocided, insulted, blah blah blah. It is a blessing to know that my Lord and savior came to Earth and sacrificed himself so that sinners like me may have a chance to walk with Jew and gentile alike as brothers and sisters in the kingdom of heaven by simply learning to love. You should give the Jesus guy a try, just saying.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Easy on the love bro.
@BorisNoiseChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it always just presupposed that what already existed had come from _"prophets"_ who had a connection to god?
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Boris. Thanks for the question. Do you mind sharing a timestamp to which part of the video you’re referring to?
@BorisNoiseChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity Thanks for asking! I was triggered by what was said at about 10:00 _("..with exception of those who received divine inspiration, Aristotle's intellect represents the highest peak of the human intellect")_ and if I'm not mistaken, before it you mentioned _"the prophets"_ who simplified the message for ordinary people to understand; that it was up to the more intellectually advanced to interpret the actual truth behind it, and that taking the bible literally was heresy. Am I wrong perceive it as if the presupposed _"holy"_ texts are beyond criticism _because_ it is presupposed to be written by _'prophets'_ who were _"divinely inspired"_ ? If not, I have quite a few issues with that; Issues that an omniscient and benevolent creator god would surely understand as well and thus would never convey its message in such a manner.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your line of questing Boris. But just to be clear, this was a descriptive presentation of Maimonides thought (at least up until the last few paragraphs), not a prescriptive preaching of what one should believe about these texts. The attempt here is to understand Maimonides, and then see what we think about his ideas.
@BorisNoiseChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity I totally get that, and my question was in regard to my thoughts about his ideas, namely the notion of divinely inspired texts from _"prophets",_ which often seems to exclude these texts from criticism _because_ they are presupposed to be divinely inspired. My question was why this is so often presupposed? And my question to you would be: don't you see a problem with that, philosophically speaking?
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
@@BorisNoiseChannel I most certainly do. I think any that these categories, prophecy etc. deserve a lot of good philosophical criticism and unpacking. Something we shall see Maimonides himself do.
@bayreuth79 2 жыл бұрын
Is this KZfaq channel about Judaism as a whole?
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
It’s about the historical intersections between philosophy and mysticism. Both in Judaism and outside outside of Judaism. Including the Russian mystics and philosophers, although we haven’t addressed them directly yet.
@bayreuth79 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity Thanks; that's certainly of interest to me.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
@@bayreuth79 Welcome 🙏🏼
@bayreuth79 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity Are you Jewish? I have tried to reach out to Jewish people to learn more about their faith and practice but so far have received no response to any of my emails.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
I am.
@ocevicheband502 2 жыл бұрын
Good. It is not going to be on S.Zalmans 'Tania ' cult plagia.
@AbdullahSaHeL 3 ай бұрын
موسى بن ميمون [Moses Maimonides (Rambam)] تعلم العقيدة من المسلمين الموحدين الملقبين "أهل السنة والجماعة" وهم الغالبية العظمى من المسلمين. حتى متأخري الشيعة (وهم مسلمون أيضاً) تأثروا بعقيدة "أهل السنة والجماعة". وعقيدتهم هي تنزيه الرب "الله" من كل صفات المخلوقين والحادثات. وإلا فإن غالب يهود قبل موسى بن ميمون كانوا يتصورون أن الهتهم في هيئة المخلوقات وعلى صورة شاب أمرد. وكذلك أن آدم يشبه الهتهم في الشكل والصورة والملامح!
@AyneEverlast 2 жыл бұрын
Salam Zevi, Woah, most of the arguments dealt in Maimonides' Book are the same arguments dealt by Ibn Rushd & Al-Ghazali (and many other Islamic philosophers in his time during the 11-12th century), but with Jewish flavour. I think Maimonides must’ve been greatly influenced by the furious debates that went on between the Muslim Scholars-specially in Córdoba, where he lived amongst these Muslim scholars such as Ibn Rushd, as the city was the centre of Intellectuality, Science & Culture at his time-Arguments that has originated from the “Translation Movement” of Greek Philosophy in Bayt al-Ḥikmah, and many other works of different cultures, into Arabic during Abbasid Era and the start of Great Mihna by the Mutazilites (creation of the Holy Quran-Allah (ﷻ) forbid!). The deviant concept of the Holy Quran being created has disappeared over the years, but in other matters, the debates are still on-going to this very day (heated Twitter wars between Atharīs & Ash’ārīs with the sound of memes' mind-blowing explosions, whirls of highlighted PDF’s shootings, and a faint Māturidī sobs are heard somewhere in the background as you read this), as well as many of other Aqīdah arguments are still disputed amongst many Islamic Scholars today e.g. Nature of God: Interpretation of Allah’s Divine Names & Attributes, Allah’s Divine Knowledge vs. Freewill, Transcendence of Allah vs. Allah above the Heavens, …etc. I think the books “The Incoherence of Philosophers” by al-Ghazali, and “The Incoherence of Incoherence” by Ibn Rushd, may give you a broader and more general view of what was going on at his time (also mentioned in the link of the article summary I sent you before) that will delve in-depth about the similar arguments presented in Maimonides' Book, i.e. Nature of God & His Divine Attributes, Cosmological Argument “First Uncaused Cause” or “Prime Mover” by al-Ghazali, the Eternity of the World by Ibn Rushd, and the Problem of Evil, Freewill vs Omniscience of God. It seems that Maimonides' Book “The Guide of the Perplexed” is a guide to be perplexed in itself - Thanks for your coherent clear short video to guide us through this perplex! Wishing you peace, blessings and guidance to you all.
@user-uk9fq3qj2k 2 жыл бұрын
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@ibnahmad4062 2 жыл бұрын
quran 3:85 And whoever desires other than IsLam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the.losers.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something the former President of the United States might say.
@c.m.b.7567 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekersofUnity hahahha true
@berglen100 2 жыл бұрын
Egyptians stories you copied, wake is best, saved needs protection. But whence comes the "s" in Jesus's name? This is of great importance. It is derived from an Egyptian suffix written either SA, SE, SI, SU, or SAF, SEF, SIF or SUF (SAPH, SEPH, SIPH or SUPH) and meaning "the son," "heir," "prince" or successor to the father. (The F is an Egyptian ending for the masculine singular.) When the original symbol of divinity, IO or IE, JO or JE, was combined with the Egyptian suffix for the succeeding heir, SU or SA, the resultant was the name IUSA, IUSE, IUSU, or IOSE; or IESU, JESU, IUSEF, IOSEF, JOSEF. One of the many forms was JESU and another was JOSEF. The final F became sibilant at times and gave us the eventual form of JESUS. The name then meant the "divine son," and combined in the Egyptian IU the idea of the coming one. Hence JESUS was the Messiah, the coming son of the divine life. There was in Egypt for ten thousand years B.C. the character of this functionary under the name of IUSA. Later he was the Iu-em-hetep, which means "the divine son who comes with peace (hetep). But most interestingly, this last word also means seven. Hence Jesus is he who comes as the seventh principle to complete the six elementary powers of natural evolution with the gift of divine intelligence, which supplants the elementary chaos with the rulership of love and intelligence and thus brings peace into a warring situation. Hence finally, Jesus is the seventh cosmic principle, announced in all religious lore as he who comes to bring peace and good will to men. And as such he was announced in the Christian Gospels. But there was more than one Jesus or IUSA or IU before the coming of the alleged historical Jesus.
@jusme8060 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you can make lots of money when you stop trying to destroy the world and trick everyone.
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
Sure. But where’s the fun in that? 😉
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
2:15 I'm all for you "cleaning up the language"! But why not start with 'jew'? The racist Middle English term from Old French, of those that couldn't manage the second syllable. I refuse to use it now. 'Jew', 'Jesus' and 'the messiah' all surfaced in Middle English. You state that you seek 'unity' but how will you get 'unity' if you persist in using the DIVISIVE linguistics of Middle English? See how they posit 'jew' versus 'Jesus' and 'the messiah' surfaces. First of all, the Rabbi which they refer to was a Judahian. Secondly, there is NO ONE called 'Jesus'. The Greek declares moshiach Joshua or Joshua. Never anything else. And thirdly, 'moshiach' is NOT 'messiah'. Moshiach is 'christos' in Greek and 'messias' in Latin. They INVENTED 'messiah' from 'messias'. If we want 'unity', we have to courageously reinvent ourselves and our linguistic approaches. 2:45 So he's addressing Moshiach ben Yosef? That's interesting. 2:54 I studied this with my Rabbi and didn't find Aristotle to be lacking in 'faith'.
@monalisa6264 2 жыл бұрын
Men have cast of Gods daughters, the image of Mother God and her covenant and she hid her face from you the one who gave you life and you didn’t want her covenant. You have been unfaithful to her status and not done the goodness she asked. Empty things are for empty and Full things are for the full who will receive it. Those who don’t receive it will be cut away. Many are called few are chosen If you choose a blood covenant with man, that’s what you’ll receive. For those who follow the heavenly law and drink from my cup of life shall prosper in heaven with me be kings and queens along side me. The water of the law washes you clean. Father god in the Bible is Adam the accuser is Satan. Church is Satan’s synagogue. You have been deceived by Satan to follow man made lies idols & religions that are not from the true God. The god of the Old Testament is satan Yahweh the demiurge and the almighty God of the New Testament is El Elyon the true loving God. Love peace goodness and spirituality is the key, your church should be your home and people within it🔑 light bringer of Truth 🦄❤️🙏😇🦁With love and hope, Isa, El, Elijah, Ephraim, The Key of David, Daughter Zion, Holy Spirit, The bride, Mona Lisa, the Shekinah, Messiah, Mother Gods only begotten Daughter-Lisa Challis🦄🐑
@koopatroopa2095 2 жыл бұрын
a jew trying to redefine gods laws, when he knows the scripture hmm
@filsdejeannoir1776 2 жыл бұрын
5:57 'Literally' is not the right word. They're reading it 'materialistically' rather than 'spiritually'. 'Materialists' struggle to perceive the spiritual dimension. Everything is reduced to a plot of land, a principality, a power. 6:07 Ok. So here we have a HUGE problem. Because Islam declare the 'Trinity' to be Shirk. Which it is not. This is PRECISELY a case of applying the 'materialistic' understanding to that profound theosophical understanding. The 'Trinity' presents the TRANSACTION between God and Man, and the non-dual integration of Man with God. It's NOT a case of "God having a body". It's a case of all that there is being God. The non-dual integration of Man with God, means that 'me', 'I', 'ego', disappears. And all that remains is God. The understanding is based on NOT positing 'Divine' versus 'human'. GENESIS 1: 26 Man - has been done - as OUR likeness - as OUR character. אֱלֹהִ֔ים כִּדְמוּתֵ֑נוּ בְּצַלְמֵ֖נוּ נַֽעֲשֶׂ֥ה אָדָ֛ם - God Himself has not separated himself from you. You state; "God doesn't have a body". This relies on you presenting yourself as being SEPARATE from God. The 'dualistic' model. In the non-dual integration of Man with God, God doesn't have 'a' body; but he has 'your' body. So what we our breaking with this understanding, is one's view of 'ordinary self'. We're transforming that into a Divine identity. In Tantra, this is called 'holding Divine Pride'. To 'hold' Divine Pride for a sustained length of time and ultimately never fall out of it again, is EXTREMELY difficult. The 'Trinity' is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of Shirk. The ONLY thing which you 'partner' with God is your 'self', until all that remains is God. It's a total SURRENDERING. Shirk is to 'partner' the god SCIENCE with God. For example. Sometimes you're IN God and sometimes YOU want to 'control'. The Luciferian mindset. As Rabbi 'the word' states: JOHN 14: 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. The Rabbi of Christianity is 'the crucified 'jew' '. They're calling the revolt of 4 B. C. E. the 'messianic' revolt. Which was crushed by Publius Quinctilius Varus, who crucified 2,000 Judahians (see Wikipedia). So this is how we have the Abrahmic 'split' into 3. Through broken linguistic bridges, they can't understand each other's theosophies. - 8:19 Ok. So here, this is interesting. Because again, I would say that the concept of 'free will' is dependent on 'separateness' from God. If we are IN God, what is our will? Is it our will or God's will? If we are IN God, it can only be God's will. 8:40 So again, we've lost 'the human IN God'. Who is what? Is he/she/they not human? Is he/she/they not God?
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