The Greatest EVO Finals of All Time.
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3 жыл бұрынWe're back with another episode of Great Moments in Fighting Game History! Today we are covering the greatest Evolution grand finals of all time (in my opinion!) Evo 2009, Street Fighter 4 finals, between Daigo Umehara and Justin Wong! We'll be breaking down the history between these 2 players, the characters they're picking, and the strategies and adaptations that take place between Daigo's Ryu and Jwong's Rufus, Abel, and Balrog.
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@SethKasso 3 жыл бұрын
FGC history content is some of my favorite content on KZfaq. This series is amazing.
@QuinnClips247 3 жыл бұрын
Word
@Darkri56789 3 жыл бұрын
I wish more people would do this. The old games had so many good moments!
@JesusGonzalez-it2sv 3 жыл бұрын
Can't agree more. Check out blaz blue 2014 moments. Sorry was 2014 not 13. My bad
@ceec2999 3 жыл бұрын
True
@TlelocGaming 3 жыл бұрын
i agree, he should do more
@venomsnekko 3 жыл бұрын
13:15 The crowd were chanting "Let's go Justin!" He was doomed to lose from that point.
@leoalcaraz6153 2 жыл бұрын
People need to stop saying that when Justin plays it’s become a self fulfilling prophecy
@costelinha1867 2 жыл бұрын
@@leoalcaraz6153 Legends say, Mr.Wong is still traumatized to this day. After the great Daigo wars.
@nabkill0134 Жыл бұрын
It like they are cursing him.
@fngerg7034 Жыл бұрын
i wonder if they were doing that on purpose
@sasunouchiha1400 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Daigo seems so calm and respectful even with everyone against him.
@Tenchigumi 2 жыл бұрын
I like and respect the incredible contrast: Justin, excitedly hyping shit up after every improbable victory; Daigo stoic and calm, with an impenetrable poker-face. Makes me think of Mugen and Jin from Samurai Champloo.
@bigassdummy46 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty easy when you're a living legend and have literally nothing to prove.
@mrdude88 2 жыл бұрын
Will you care if the world is against you and you already know you’re going to win?
@samchongjingxian2811 2 жыл бұрын
this is why people like him, like me I really learn his mental thinking while playing game, no need to be a cocky and an angry idiot whether u win or lose a game...just be a calm person, unlike that stupid Wong, I really hate people react like this, what's he doing go joy to the crowd? thought he definitely win?
@mofo4what 2 жыл бұрын
You act like there was something he could do. He had no choice...
@rickyfajar5190 3 жыл бұрын
"how do you know it's an ume shoryu?" "if it hits, it's ume; if it's blocked, it's flowchart"
@brunocampos7199 3 жыл бұрын
Scrubby players normally mash Dp when they are negative (during strings, wake up, or even meaty). "Ume-shoryu" is using Dp as a neutral tool. Both times he used it, he caught Justin pressing Fierce.
@rickyfajar5190 3 жыл бұрын
@@brunocampos7199 I know dude, it's a joke
@brunocampos7199 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickyfajar5190 my bad.
@neloangelo365 3 жыл бұрын
@@brunocampos7199 same difference
@richman360 3 жыл бұрын
This comment is underrated
@splatx8176 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't planning on watching a 36 minute Street fighter tournament video. but you chauffeured me through solidly with your commentary and it was beautiful.
@ReaperWeb 2 жыл бұрын
Dude i just realized it was a 36 minute video wtf
@phensie5021 2 жыл бұрын
Same to me 😆
@anmax Жыл бұрын
It felt like a 5 min video
@JohnSmith-qf1jn Жыл бұрын
Dude the way he hypes parts of the game without even being hyperactive is talent.
@Harlem1mentality Жыл бұрын
Right
@benjaminwilson9007 3 жыл бұрын
"What's the mix? He just goes for a meaty."
@chachawho435 3 жыл бұрын
me when I play any fighting game
@Native2087 3 жыл бұрын
Super safe approach depending on the meaty.
@QuinnClips247 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@idriscicek9596 3 жыл бұрын
hey jim, please please PLEASE more of this series
@jim-mf3dv 3 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@wh0racle3 3 жыл бұрын
@@jim-mf3dv spark vs Lord Knight from blazblue was a great one. Or Mike Z's bottom tier Tager destroying those top tier NU13 players. Just a suggestion
@kidfazer 2 жыл бұрын
idk why he stopped
@shen-long9082 Жыл бұрын
Who the hell is jim??
@Tenchigumi 2 жыл бұрын
In those days, Justin's talent was his mastery of multiple complex characters, able to swap them as needed to fit the opponent and situation, and use them more proficiently than other pros with their mains. But Daigo's talent was his grandmastery of one simple character, and could make that lone character feel like multiple complex opponents in the same match.
@edenyan7237 11 ай бұрын
and it is interesting to see that 20 years after moment 37, Daigo start to enjoy all sorts of characters when doing SF6 online, Justin however stay with Chun-Li all the way to every tournament he joins, the most insane part is both of them are still top tier player, normally you don't get to be that good for that long, I guess these two just build a little differently with others. 😂
@jamescollins5870 10 ай бұрын
20 years? This was 14 years ago
@Tenchigumi 10 ай бұрын
@@jamescollins5870 He said 20 years after Evo Moment 37, not this match up.
@CheeseLasagna 3 жыл бұрын
I love your usual dbfz content, but these best moments in fighting game history are by far my favorite videos. You just do such a good job at keeping my attention throughout the whole video. Great content, keep it coming!! Oh and Merry Christmas and Happy New Years!!
@DiegoDeschain 3 жыл бұрын
I second this. Love these.
@emmarepro2698 3 жыл бұрын
The chair swap myth
@juliansalamanca9989 3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@betabenja 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, you build a good story
@MrFatKat 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love japan vs us - ryu vs balrog even the skins are matching lol
@gyrenrockz 3 жыл бұрын
i thought Justin is a "Chinese"
@icecreambrainz8726 3 жыл бұрын
@@gyrenrockz He's American.
@gyrenrockz 3 жыл бұрын
@@icecreambrainz8726 american citizen yeah but is he not chinese?
@AX5Terminator 3 жыл бұрын
@@gyrenrockz he's as Chinese as Balrog is African. What's your point, unless we have a native American playing everybody has a country of origin. Him being Chinese don't mean he isn't American...
@TheIcarusFalls 3 жыл бұрын
@@gyrenrockz If J. Wong is an "American citizen, but actually Chinese" then every white American is an "American citizen, but actually European". Most Americans have European heritage, but that doesn't mean they're European. So just because Justin has Chinese heritage doesn't mean he's Chinese.
@micah329 3 жыл бұрын
"You can't can't whiff punish a fireball" UI Goku smiling from dbfz
@ahmedalkadhim9806 3 жыл бұрын
Man.... I was a Daigo fanboy during this era but looking back, I really wish Justin won that set. I'm really glad you highlighted this for people who might not know of it. It is an incredible set both in gameplay and historic value, and poses the "What if....?" where, in a universe with no arcade release head start, would Justin have had enough to win this one at least?
@officerdooderino5266 11 ай бұрын
Used to be a fanboy as well smh. Glad the early release isn't a thing anymore
@bipolarprobe 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, Justin really put those stars and stripes on and tried his heart out to bring it home for America, but the beast stayed unbeatable. This is a match I've heard about but never given much thought but when you lay out the history and play out the drama like this beat by beat it ascends the match to new heights for all of us folks who weren't there to experience it live. Love these videos and how they enrich fighting game history.
@The_ZinKy Жыл бұрын
good comment bro!
@debo2189 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was going to be the match of 'EVO moment 37' only to be surprised by this amazing match, amazing commentary! thank you for this video, i was massively entertained and huuuuuge respect to Justin for pushing Daigo to his limits all the way till the very end and win with the smallest of margins!!
@321tiempo3 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: they both wearing their flag colors on their characters, also characters nationalities are the same as the players
@Michael.Eddington 3 жыл бұрын
Only their race is different
@321tiempo3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael.Eddington what do you mean? They are both humans.
@Michael.Eddington 3 жыл бұрын
@@321tiempo3 What, that’s their species yeah. I don’t think there’s many dolphins or dogs who could be trained to play SF
@ginko276 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael.Eddington lol XD
@coolmasterjg2450 3 жыл бұрын
Ready to look at some banger matches!!
@stevenbrumley5990 3 жыл бұрын
As a 09er whos put fighting games on the back burner for parenthood, listening to your FGC history videos is really nostalgic. Youre great at bringing these moments back alive. Ive always thought you would make an excellent FGC commentator. Request: Cover the moneymatch between Clockw0rk and Golden Boy Neo around 9 years ago. The hype and build up was phenomenal. Not that anyone would have to pull your arm to talk about Marvel 2
@Lucifri 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I love to see Daigo do is adapt to his opponents. Long sets with Daigo are some of the most entertaining videos in the fgc.
@cappachino20 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh yes this series is back! Probably my favorite thing you do in them is explain, in non condescending ways, why certain moments or mechanics are important. As someone who enjoys watching but doesn't know how to play, it allows me to put myself in someones shoes (someone who knows all this stuff) and get just as hype. Keep it up sir. This was a great Christmas gift. Happy holidays!
@gerharddamm5933 3 жыл бұрын
So perfect that Justin is using the American character while Daigo uses the Japanese one
@maxcoopper4079 3 жыл бұрын
So cool to see Justin giving some info on the match, i like that you do this as it shows some awesome moments in the FGC.
@raedien 3 жыл бұрын
I love it when you do these feature match breakdowns with context. These are 100% my favorite videos from you. Keep it up man, your knowledge and passion for the genre come out so much while delivering expert info and hype moments is just too good a combo not to watch. A must-click every time.
@stonevicta 3 жыл бұрын
2:18 Top 8: 5 Chun-Lis and 2 Yuns. Third Strike meta in a nutshell. lol
@debo2189 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 I know right? had huge respect to them pros competing with characters like Q
@ajohndoe17 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never once thought of myself as a fan of competitive fighting games but I absolutely love your commentary and breakdown of the videos you make.
@Chronoic 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about Daigo and Justin is, Justin has the Wong factor when he falls behind, but.......... Daigo has Beast mode, which allows him to download and adapt faster if the matches goes way to long, and because Justin had to use his Wong factor early, Daigo, just adapted with Beast mode before Justin can win.
@milenarkioshi4288 3 жыл бұрын
Dood !!! That's some Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry thing going in there. 10/10, I would read this manga
@algumnomeaihehe 3 жыл бұрын
this is your brain on weeb
@pigboykool 3 жыл бұрын
SF4 is so much more exciting to watch than SF5. I hope SF6 will be much better.
@poindextertunes Жыл бұрын
I love the language of SF. 2 players, worlds apart, exchanging technical banter to come to a poetic conclusion 🔥
@Brokout 3 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these retrospective videos, your regular content is good, but this is just such an unbelievable step up, it’s hard not to want more.
@ColinthePulkrabek 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t play fighting games, but I do play strategy games-I loved your concise explanation of the “big picture” strategies at play, helped me understand what was happening much better! Please more, thank you in advance!
@sircastic09 3 жыл бұрын
What a Christmas gift! This series is soo dope. Looking forward to more!
@ClintonChelak 3 жыл бұрын
This match in 2009 was my first intro to the fighting game community, from a recommendation by KZfaq. I'd say I became an obsessive fan of fighting games from that point on. Thanks for letting me relive this with fresh commentary.
@emmettunderwood4621 3 жыл бұрын
You are a fantastic commentator and analysts!!! These kind are my favorite videos of yours. Please do A LOT more like this!!!
@GreatKingEd 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, I love this series. Was worried we weren't gonna get more cause its been a while , but a great Christmas eve gift
@funkaoshi 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t played fighting games in 20+ years but am now hooked on these fighting game history videos.
@TheScullens 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@joelman1989 2 жыл бұрын
I am one of those who never understood how video games could be considered a sport. I like sports, and I played fighting games like street fighter casually in arcades when I was young. But I had no idea how technical the games I played could be. Your explanations of what’s going on go a long way in helping me have such a good time with these videos and recognizing that yeah, games can be just as intense and technical as any sport. This match had me on the edge of my seat.
@How2Helper2013 3 жыл бұрын
Just rewatched some of your earlier coverage of fighting game history, hyped for this one too!
@petertromp8786 3 жыл бұрын
Please do perhaps the most high level match in all of SFIV, Daigo and Momochi at Stunfest 2015, at some point, please. These analyses are fantastic.
@BuddhaKING86 3 жыл бұрын
Again, LOVE these FGC commentary and you breaking the nuances of the matches and the techniques down. Keep up the good work and looking forward to these whenever you have time to churn them out.
@Zorndar83 3 жыл бұрын
I got a bit late into fighting games but seeing these moments is always a pleasure, in combination with the explanation its a good view into all Fighting games. Especially with the interview of Justin Wong adds a nice touch!
@dylanterry1197 3 жыл бұрын
Jmcrofts I love your commentary and how you explain terminology! Very helpful for newbies
@SB-tv6en 5 ай бұрын
I’m happy I got to see this for the first time with you narrating the match, your knowledge and experience is really insightful. Thanks for making this match new to me. 👍
@juannicolon6614 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these videos! You can tell all the work you put in them. They are awesome for us people that love fighting games but haven't been following the history of the genre.
@PaddyRoon7 3 жыл бұрын
Really missed these videos, thanks for working on this type of content again!
@tommylugaresi7431 3 жыл бұрын
Love this series! Thank you, JM.
@blueblur1998 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! These are so good thanks for making another one!
@contemporaryart3404 3 жыл бұрын
This and the east vs. west MVC2 breakdown have been my favorites so far. Keep up the good work!
@Darlypants 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic insights, and thanks for the backstory! I had just watched the raw Justin versus Daigo video of this yesterday, so this was a cool follow up to that.
@chotoipho 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, keep up the good work. This series is amazing. Your commentary especially makes it awesome, so much insight
@faultdweller1131 3 жыл бұрын
really love this content. love how you explain the details on what each players do. pro players might be able to decipher the moves, but for newbies or non-players like me, we don't really know what is going on. and thank you for explaining what DP FADC is; really learned a lot. Please make more of these kind of content. Thanks!
@level12fighter 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Thank you for all of the FGC content you put out.
3 жыл бұрын
God, that was so sick to watch. Thanks for this one
@justblais21 3 жыл бұрын
SF4 2009 was so epic man
@LeslieVMooreJr 3 жыл бұрын
Great matchup! Great commentary! Thank you for such an enjoyable video.
@SuperRobertHayes 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy I came across your channel man. Honestly you’re the only reason I gave street fighter a chance after watching diagos classic parry. Love the content man please keep it up
@CheddarGetter 3 жыл бұрын
This series of videos has been amazing. Can't wait for the next one!
@PlatinumAssassin 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been going back through your archives to watch them all and definitely love this series. Keep up the great work.
@danteasdale286 3 жыл бұрын
For what It’s worth man, I love your commentary and love how in depth you get,. Keep doing what you’re doing
@DanielRodriguez-zj5il 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I've waited for this...
@yoteca 2 жыл бұрын
I've already watched 3-4 of your videos, such a pleasure. Fantastic commentary, easy to understand even for a casual like me.
@GiggityNinja 3 жыл бұрын
Dang this may be your best video yet. I have always been a fan since your FighterZ videos started (and still excitedly keep up with those) but this Fighting Game History content is next level. Such a good watch. Also, incredible job successfully incorporating the star Justin Wong himself, truly the icing on the cake
@ai_serf Жыл бұрын
thank you for this video. I sprainged my ankle and your videos and fightcade 3rd strike are getting me through the pain. it's a great distraction!!!
@CogzillaOfDojima 3 жыл бұрын
So happy to see this come back. It's how I discovered your channel in the first place. Happy Holidays!
@tkZombie_ 3 жыл бұрын
jm, i love this series man. please never stop doing these. thank you so much
@thatonelucinamain 3 жыл бұрын
You know a moment is legendary when it causes you to tear up😌
@MechaJeff 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I really enjoyed it. I've been a fan for a long time, and it's been a real pleasure to see your career and channel grow. I credit you and Dotodoya for keeping me motivated and interested in DBFZ. Keep it up!
@lychene7929 3 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video. Thank you and Merry Christmas!
@richardavery2894 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great rundown of how the game mechanics work! Thanks man!
@Hypno_BPM 3 жыл бұрын
man i miss the 2009-2014 Evo era. It was magical and I’m glad i got to watch them on Twitch
@landoncore92 3 жыл бұрын
I love this series so much!!! Thanks for the Christmas gift!
@DiscoJoseph 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy this series of videos! Thank you for making them.
@Donger3k 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite EVO finals of all time. Great commentary!!
@Maxbeedo2 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite finals was KOF13 2013 Reynald vs Woo, with Reynald in losers going down 0-2, then winning 6 in a row. The biggest momentum shift of all time for sure.
@ahsanmehmood5358 3 жыл бұрын
Favourite evo moment for many. Bala vs madkof a year ago was not bad either
@krodmandoon3479 3 жыл бұрын
KoF13 was the absolute shit, reallly upset that 14 never seemed to hit the same heights. Here's hoping 15 brings the heat.
@saadhasan2518 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man that and Evo 2012 Grand Final b/w Bala and MadKof was also an amazing match one of the best Evo Grand Finals.
@saadhasan2518 3 жыл бұрын
All Reynald did was pick Ex-Kyo and then he went into UI mode once Goodbye Esaka started playing in the background.
@pufffypus8418 Жыл бұрын
KBR vs Fchamp in winter brawls was a bigger momentum shift imo
@paullarkinsphoto 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you commentary on these sorts of videos mate. I'm fascinated but the FGC because I do like fight games but watching streams I often have no idea what's going on or why one player as able to see what the other was planning or why they changed character or style. You commentary means I can enjoy them more because I gain more knowledge of what's actually happening. Thanks man.
@ErdingerLi 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome match digest!! Looking forward to more of these!!
@JesusGonzalez-it2sv 3 жыл бұрын
Keep this videos up, I love them. Yesturday I watched the umvc3 greatest villain video. Witch I've seen like 4 times now.
@ShadyHitchhiker 3 жыл бұрын
Wow 21:57 trying to punish a fireball jump with a super fireball. I'm glad they took that out
@BigTonyGee 3 жыл бұрын
Glad this popped up on the recommendation video. Had no idea there was so much history in video game tournaments. Will keep an eye on your channel. thanks
@darknight864 3 жыл бұрын
hell yeah, another greatest moments episode. I love these
@Higashigg 3 жыл бұрын
Love seeing this in my recommended, one of my favorite series for sure
@davidmoore3417 3 жыл бұрын
This series is genius and the analysis is absolutely fantastic
@NisekoiARG 3 жыл бұрын
you're such a fit for this kind of content. it's honestly so good it should be pay per view! keep it up
@Anthracyte 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and commentary. Very well put together, I really enjoy this series so thank you very much. I would love you to follow this up with Daigo vs Momochi Grand Finals at Stunfest 2015. Probably the most awesome match I've ever seen.
@MarkoTulio 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual, great analisis - dissection of the match. You imprint a lot of emotion in your depiction of each move, tactic and strategy.
@CatychoVT 3 жыл бұрын
The way you explain all this stuff makes sense to people who don't even play fighting games. I love it
@Razkain100 3 жыл бұрын
Your FGC videos are my favorite (I only got into the community 2ish years ago) and the production value of this video really shows. Great job!
@spookydudespodcast6965 3 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon your KZfaq channel this week and I'm already a huge fan! I used to run FGC tournaments for my local community group and although it's been a long time, these videos bring back such great memories! I really dig your commentary too. You've got a new sub. Thank you so much and keep up the awesome work!!!
@mrchone84 3 жыл бұрын
One word: Amazing. Love the break down of this video.
@hawk239128 3 жыл бұрын
I love JWong but The Beast will always be my boi. He's the guy my son grew up cheering for. This was a great set from a great pair of competitors.
@raychangalarza179 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, I can see all the work on these videos, I love them, I can see all the knowledge and research that you put into them, continue doing them please
@eatit8262 3 жыл бұрын
These are my favorite videos. I watch other content you put out that I may not be into (and then usually am) in the hopes I'll see another one. Today I did so I guess I have to keep watching your videos since my strat worked.
@Midori_Hoshi 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching this video. Love your passion. Keep it up!
@dodeker7845 3 жыл бұрын
so much memories , fchamp vs kbr , daigo vs justin ... you keep bringing back good old memories bro Happy new year !
@UncannyAura 3 жыл бұрын
This fight definitely inspired me! I'll be focusing on neutrals and whiffs in my fights from now on since I'm not very big on amazing combos!
@trulytrue8008 3 жыл бұрын
Love this series from you. Thanks for the new one.
@TheEvilCheesecake 3 жыл бұрын
High quality video here pal, you did a great job of telling the story and delivering something for people all along the spectrum of SF4 familiarity to pick up on.
@jmcrofts 3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@DrFlarz 2 жыл бұрын
my favorite of all time is Lil Majin vs JDCR in Tekken 7 EVO 2018. Lil Majin being the only American player to make into the finals playing against JDCR a dominant player was fantastic. Also the power of the crowd, shouting Lil Majin's name just gave his match so much more hype behind it.
@JakeFLM 9 ай бұрын
that wasnt an EVO finals match.
@jordandaniels1381 3 жыл бұрын
Well love this dude’s content as a whole, earned a subscriber
@leperique 3 жыл бұрын
Great content, amazing commentary! Thank you very much for your videos!
@tracepalmatier9696 3 жыл бұрын
Aahh, Justin and Daigo were such babies!! Great trip down memory lane, thanks dude
@TheRADRAD Жыл бұрын
Watching this in anticipation of EVO2022 in a couple hours, but... Justin going to Balrog felt like the REAL "USA vs Japan" match had begun. You could feel it in the air of the crowd with their "USA" chants in tow as Justin literally puts an entire country on his back. The symbolism of such a sight is one of the things that makes this EVO GF incredibly memorable. Even to this day, America had not won SF4 on the world stage of EVO. They haven't done it for SF5... yet (go iDom!). In fact, the last time USA took home 1st place in Street Fighter... was over 10 years ago. HD Remix 2010 Snake Eyez Super Turbo 2008 John Choi Hyper SF2 2006 Alex Valle
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