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The Grossest Thing I Have Ever Repaired - 1940's Desk Fan Restoration

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Hugh Jeffreys

Hugh Jeffreys

Күн бұрын

Restoring and preserving an old 40's Elcon table top fan.
Had some urgent things to attend to this week so while the video is a repair video, its on something a bit different. But still I hope you enjoy it!
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@HughJeffreys
@HughJeffreys Жыл бұрын
If you would like to see restorations or repairs on things like this more often, be sure to let that KZfaq algorithm know with a like. The algorithm is often not a fan of variety in content.
@benjaminl.
@benjaminl. Жыл бұрын
we need more of these
@samuzamu
@samuzamu Жыл бұрын
Lol, fan
@imNotDaniX
@imNotDaniX Жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@Mine_Craft_Player_2928
@Mine_Craft_Player_2928 Жыл бұрын
Do a Nintendo entertainment system
@Q.7
@Q.7 Жыл бұрын
The capacitor didn't need replacing?
@terrydavis2552
@terrydavis2552 Жыл бұрын
You can heat the fan coupler with a torch and then spraying it and the shaft with WD40. The expansion of the coupler tends to crack and release the rust and the oil just makes things slide out easier. Note that you may have to do this more than once, but its does work. Cool project though.
@sushimshah2896
@sushimshah2896 Жыл бұрын
WD40 can do anything at this point!
@andyruse4670
@andyruse4670 Жыл бұрын
@@sushimshah2896cooling with WD40 after you use a can of mapp gas to heat up a part does wonders for breaking rust bonds.
@davidhamm5626
@davidhamm5626 Жыл бұрын
That may not work, if there is a rubber bushing, in the hub.
@walpoleandworcester
@walpoleandworcester Жыл бұрын
I enjoy it when you surprise us with repairing other stuff like this!
@williambarr7408
@williambarr7408 Жыл бұрын
100% 👍
@jerryesposito
@jerryesposito Жыл бұрын
Bro grabbed that fan from fallout 4 💀
@zlot0wy_
@zlot0wy_ 8 ай бұрын
400 like
@meetv7700
@meetv7700 Жыл бұрын
I loved that you used cable from an old washing machine saving it from going in scrap, and you kept this repair as easy and straight forward as possible.
@LexYeen
@LexYeen Жыл бұрын
This! It's always better to reuse that which can be reused before buying new.
@theeduummpp
@theeduummpp Жыл бұрын
you should do more repairs on old, non smartphone stuff, it's very interesting and informative in a way.
@samuzamu
@samuzamu Жыл бұрын
Really jealous of that one. Love the art-deco design and solid construction. That fan could probably last another 100 years
@veronicabermudez4802
@veronicabermudez4802 Жыл бұрын
77 years*
@joeblow5037
@joeblow5037 Жыл бұрын
Hugh later finds out that the cord was serialized and key'd to the device. 🤬
@TheSpotify95
@TheSpotify95 Жыл бұрын
Really nice interesting repair! I'm all for saving old stuff and restoring it back into a functional state again, even though a lot of people would think this is too far gone and chuck it out. And yes, on an item of this era, I too would go for the functional, but not 100%, finish, keeping the item's character and history. Remember, this isn't a brand new item, it's something from many, many years ago - long before I was born, and even long before my parents were born.
@scottrobertson6663
@scottrobertson6663 Жыл бұрын
A lot of times the old stuff has more character than the new, and certainly more durable
@umbrellacorp.
@umbrellacorp. Жыл бұрын
That's the nice thing about old tech, it doesn't care what year it is, it's built to work.
@DecayingReverie
@DecayingReverie Жыл бұрын
I love restorations of pretty much anything so if restoration in general is a passion of yours, I'm all for more videos like this.
@WyvernDotRed
@WyvernDotRed Жыл бұрын
Good that you took the time to properly grease it, even new fans need this to last. If I'd own a fan like this, I'd just use it as intended and maintain it in this way as it'll work just as well as any new fan. These repairs of other devices certainly is something I am interested in, it's nice to see well-built devices continue to last.
@malice6081
@malice6081 Жыл бұрын
I love old fans. They just always work. And cleaning them every year keeps stuff from seizing together.
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 Жыл бұрын
That was an enjoyable change of pace, and I wouldn't mind seeing more videos like this.
@bladder1010
@bladder1010 Жыл бұрын
Those bushings on the motor shaft are often sintered bronze which is porous and the bushings should be soaked in 30 weight oil to "recharge" them. This can be speeded up by heating the oil slightly (not boiling!) or using a vacuum chamber. It helps to wash out the bushings first with solvent to get rid of the old dirt-loaded oil. Simply applying grease to the outside of the bushings won't last.
@Ragnar8504
@Ragnar8504 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, they were also known as Oilite bearings. The general rule of thumb is things that move slowly take grease while things that spin fast need oil.
@greencheeksconure
@greencheeksconure Жыл бұрын
Thats why those fans have oiling holes in the top. I'm surprised hugh didn't pick up on that, you definitely don't grease those bearings
@BAFVintage
@BAFVintage 2 ай бұрын
Grease should not be used as the bronze bearings are porous. Oil must be used
@MayaPosch
@MayaPosch Жыл бұрын
Those old AC motors are pretty much indestructible as long as the bearings are kept greased and corrosion kept at bay. It'd be interesting to do a direct comparison in terms of airflow and power efficiency between this old fan and a new one. Might be that the blade design has more effect than anything else. Great to see another classic saved from the scrap pile at any rate :)
@stephensnell5707
@stephensnell5707 Жыл бұрын
Well thechuge gaps in the guards males it way more harmful to human fingers unlike modern electric fans which are way safer and 600 times more durable too
@planetphatness
@planetphatness Жыл бұрын
​@@stephensnell5707kids back then knew not to stick fingers in moving parts and machines. People got more dumb for some reason.
@SoupyMittens
@SoupyMittens 2 ай бұрын
@@planetphatness probably because all the focus on safety has messed up natural selection
@M1U5T0N3
@M1U5T0N3 Жыл бұрын
Great addition to Your usual Videos Hugh! Awesome work, really nice to watch...
@cdos9186
@cdos9186 Жыл бұрын
I'm all for the content like this every once and a while! I recently restored a I guess not too old Whirlpool microwave from the 90s, it was in immaculate shape but didn't work and was almost thrown out, love fixing stuff that is near being thrown out or gone, it gives me a sense of I actually saved something useful and still usable from the landfill. I love the older styling on some appliances, it is so nostalgic and calming with the boxy styling appliances used to have with the woodgrain and all, so cool! I'm honestly super happy to see more people caring for the antique and vintage stuff and restoring it, makes me happy to see others do the same no matter what item it is.
@stephensnell5707
@stephensnell5707 10 ай бұрын
You would have been better by throwing it away
@cdos9186
@cdos9186 10 ай бұрын
@@stephensnell5707 Ok, take your boring modern style and pay for overpriced junk that won't last as long as the one I have. Might as well buy your EV car as well that will have the battery go out in 10-15 years and it will be worth as much as scrap metal. I appreciate your input I certainly will be replacing all my appliances with new ones now.
@fixative-xyz
@fixative-xyz Жыл бұрын
I've always loved these fans, & it's great to know how easy they actually are to repair!
@SombreroKnight
@SombreroKnight Жыл бұрын
Great restoration! I own my dads old 1950s GE desk fan thats seen some better days but still works! With the original cable.
@Boogie_the_cat
@Boogie_the_cat Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this one. I hope that your view count makes it financially sensible for you to do more of these type videos. I made sure to click "like".
@HughJeffreys
@HughJeffreys Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! I hope i could do more similar videos to this.
@Sebby_CHN
@Sebby_CHN 2 ай бұрын
I think you done the right keeping it as original as possible! Looks amazing.
@narutobroken
@narutobroken Жыл бұрын
Should have used a blow torch on it, heat always helps get seized parts off
@HughJeffreys
@HughJeffreys Жыл бұрын
I dont have access to one unfortunately.
@andoletube
@andoletube Жыл бұрын
@@HughJeffreys You can buy cheap little butane blowtorches at Bunnings for not very much. Very handy for odd jobs.
@S0nicHax
@S0nicHax Жыл бұрын
@@HughJeffreys i think even a jet flame lighter or worst case just a kitchen lighter would have provided sufficient heat to expand the cast piece just enough to make it break free.
@bulldogboy100
@bulldogboy100 Жыл бұрын
I really liked the fact you kept the background music really quiet so you could hear the brush on the metal blades when you were cleaning them. A small thing but one that made the video more immersive
@ellisgarbutt1925
@ellisgarbutt1925 Жыл бұрын
Hey a vintage item on video cool It's nice to see old items brought back to life wasn't the dodge from the 1940's
@MarcelSchr
@MarcelSchr Жыл бұрын
I think it's awesome that you now repair/restore other things besides cell phones, and I find the videos very entertaining. I hope there will be even more in the future:)
@IntelliPocalypse
@IntelliPocalypse 2 ай бұрын
It’s good you let it run. Old things need to bring themselves back around. I recently bought an old fan. Took 2 hours to get it to oscillate. Just needed some patience
@johnruschmeyer5769
@johnruschmeyer5769 Жыл бұрын
The design of that motor casing reminds me so much of a Westinghouse fan that we had when I was growing up.
@burntalive
@burntalive Жыл бұрын
So satisfying to see old things start working again. They really dont make things like they used to!
@stephensnell5707
@stephensnell5707 10 ай бұрын
You prune modern Fans are 3,000 even better and even more reliable and the modern Fans are way more durable(especially as the Power Cable is made way better as it isn't made of rubber) Rubber power cables are just bad
@kylepersaud9525
@kylepersaud9525 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised your restoring something luke this as a fan collector I must say you didn't do a bad job at all. I feel that something like this isn't from the 40s most likely 50s and I hope uk your not suppose to use grease in these things... your suppose to use SAE 20 lubricant and to answer the question of why you should not use grease is because it will turn into a hard sticky substance lock up the motor and burn out
@BeIlG
@BeIlG Жыл бұрын
That is gorgeous! I love the industrial look. I have a similar era mirror found in the backyard and it looks gorgeous in a modern bathroom!
@Jupiter2ignite
@Jupiter2ignite Жыл бұрын
What an awesome fan! I love older art deco style pieces like this. Also, the names of the companies are always cool. Great video!
@agusorellana5551
@agusorellana5551 Жыл бұрын
5:59 “the only sockets are in real measurements. None of that imperial garbage” Love it!
@aaronaustrie
@aaronaustrie Жыл бұрын
It's cool that you made an attempt to restore something other than everyday tech 👌🏾❤
@halvtysk
@halvtysk Жыл бұрын
I'm happy that you didn't "ultra-restore" it like many other youtubers. I've watched too many restoration videos where they "pimp it" way past its original looks. Thanks for keeping it in its original state!
@stephensnell5707
@stephensnell5707 10 ай бұрын
Even so,it is still VERY DANGEROUS and unsafe as its blades are totally exposed,modern Fans are 90,000 times safer as the blades are safely contained behind 2 Fan Guards
@DBVintage
@DBVintage 3 ай бұрын
I use older fans in my house. They work great after getting some fresh wiring, servicing of the mechanisms, etc. A lot of the really good ones are quiet and smooth runners.
@jasonnadeau1330
@jasonnadeau1330 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I love it when people try to preserve the character instead of get rid of it. By the way, the type of paint that is on that fan is called hammerite. You can still buy it today in various colors.
@williamharris8367
@williamharris8367 Жыл бұрын
I had a much newer fan in my bedroom growing-up. It became caked in dust and grime just through regular use. So, every Summer I would disassemble it and take the blades and guard outside to be washed with the garden hose (and then let dry in the sun).
@5gk3ll3
@5gk3ll3 Жыл бұрын
The best part of this video are the socks and sandals. 10/10 would sport this style too.
@nbrowser
@nbrowser Жыл бұрын
Patina makes an old fan like this authentic, I hate those restoration channels that go to the end to make things look perfect. Old things don't need to look perfect, they need to look old and vintage....adds to the charm. Nicely done resto Hugh, just classy.
@maanx01
@maanx01 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I'd personally love to see more stuff like this. I think it keeps the channel fresh. Content variety is always appreciated. Good job and greets from Spain!
@CS_Uravity_PRO
@CS_Uravity_PRO Жыл бұрын
i still have one of these in pristine condition on my desk at work. In teal green tho, but it's really nice to see more of these in the wild!
@AllLoudNation365
@AllLoudNation365 11 ай бұрын
I love your restorations! It's way better than the fake restoration videos.
@stephensnell5707
@stephensnell5707 10 ай бұрын
You prune,there is no such thing as fake restoration Videos,all restoration Videos on KZfaq are all 100% REAL
@AllLoudNation365
@AllLoudNation365 10 ай бұрын
u fr bro?
@jayringo77
@jayringo77 Жыл бұрын
The occasional variety is welcome and appreciate the lesson in proper grounding!
@zerocks88
@zerocks88 Жыл бұрын
awesome to see you branching out to more things to restore
@uconsaa
@uconsaa Жыл бұрын
This one was the most "Huge Air Freeze Video" ever. 💪🏼🤙
@sarapiqui_educational
@sarapiqui_educational Жыл бұрын
A 80 year old fan still working! Now days you buy any fan at any store and they stop working few months later. Thanks for sharing this content.
@itssharkeyboi
@itssharkeyboi Жыл бұрын
I love your phone restorations, but I love you repairing vintage things even more! Especially that fan!
@aleksandersats9577
@aleksandersats9577 Жыл бұрын
I actually got a 1960s Russian desk fan that I got from my grandpa. It's in amazing condition! The blades are made of rubber which are still very soft and bendable and there is no rust anywhere. If I'm being honest it looks brand new! The only thing I've done to it is replaced the cable and given it new grease. Unfortunately the osculating gears are made of nylon and they have been bent so that function no longer works. I did try to model new gears and 3D print them but they didn't last long for obvious reasons. I might be able to order custom nylon or metal gears as I still have the 3D model files. But other than that, I use it daily and I absolutely love it! You will never find something as high quality as this ever again. It weighs around like 6 - 8kg as the whole thing is made out of thick metal
@OldSlabSides
@OldSlabSides Жыл бұрын
If you have a decent 3D printer that accepts many materials there is some pretty exotic reinforced 3D printer material for some extra money. Seems to be better material coming out every year for different purposes like heat resistance or rubber like for bushings.
@aleksandersats9577
@aleksandersats9577 Жыл бұрын
@@OldSlabSides well I wouldn't use a 3D gear anyway for the oscillating mechanism. The gears need to be very smooth otherwise the osculation is choppy due to the worm gear. Making a fine print worm gear that smooth is near impossible at least on my 3D printer. Besides it's broken at this moment anyway. It needs a new motherboard as it's kinda corrupted and gives overheating errors despite sensors showing the correct temperature which is weird but annoying
@highgardentwo6977
@highgardentwo6977 Жыл бұрын
Really love it when the funny phone man hits us with a random tec video
@phillipleeds296
@phillipleeds296 Жыл бұрын
The same fan in my father’s office in his theatre in the 1950s and 60s. We had some at home, too.
@omnislayer55
@omnislayer55 Жыл бұрын
Hi Hugh, have you checked if the paint contains lead? One of the reasons why some of those restoration videos you talked about is testing for lead before doing anything.
@nomore-constipation
@nomore-constipation Жыл бұрын
My father had a great fan from the 40-50s too. I cannot tell you how many times he "repaired" it because of nagging issues as years went by By the time the 2010's rolled around he was trying to get it back into working order by had zero patience with it because certain pieces did rust or pit on his too. It was sanded and painted multiple times and the last time it was done he got lazy and just did it in all black. Which wasn't a good idea at night considering the size of the openings in the front He did have the gear for putting it on the wall, whoch definitely was nice at the dinner table, but as I said, as time went on it definitely was getting very old to carry a fully metal fan just to cool off. It brought back a lot of memories, including those that explain why it was beat because me and my siblings would shoot things at it (because it was a great metal sound as it was hit 😂)
@pf-scottied0g969
@pf-scottied0g969 Жыл бұрын
I would check whether the capacitor is still good as well. Its surprising how many still test good after all these years, but many have gone bad with age. The fan still works however, so......
@haramaschabrasir8662
@haramaschabrasir8662 Жыл бұрын
Back when planned obsolescence wasn't needed because there were still enough people who didn't own a fan yet.
@shuggiemcg1
@shuggiemcg1 Жыл бұрын
Great video more like this please and also you made it so hard to clean by not taking it apart, the motor needs a proper service or it will remain a fire hazard
@konk407
@konk407 Жыл бұрын
Hi Hugh, I had the same exact same fan that you had. I was ten years old 50 years ago I tried to open it, I used a hammer to open it. the cord was rope cable instead of the plastic cord. It was good to see the fan again.
@joshxkerrigan
@joshxkerrigan Жыл бұрын
So cool to see an appliance like this in your set!! I expected the ifixit kit to make an appearance in this 😂
@MilesProwerTailsFox
@MilesProwerTailsFox Жыл бұрын
This is what I work with every day, I am an emergency extreme repair technician I fix whatever people don't want to fix till it just stops working and no one else wants to even try
@HG80369
@HG80369 Жыл бұрын
Great video Hugh. I've got one of those too. Westinghouse branded, from early '60s. Works great! One thing you should change is the capacitor. It would be open circuit by now, & it's function gives the motor better starting and run torque. You can us a mains rated motor start capacitor of suitable value to replace it. Cheers, Adam.
@TJThomas116
@TJThomas116 Жыл бұрын
Loved this restoration! Would love to see more older equipment. May the algorithm gods bless you
@CherryBomb-143
@CherryBomb-143 9 ай бұрын
This is comforting for some reason
@libertyordeaf
@libertyordeaf Жыл бұрын
Always good when a KZfaqr does things for his fans.
@tommytron2000
@tommytron2000 Жыл бұрын
I like the imperial measurement jab there mate.
@HughJeffreys
@HughJeffreys Жыл бұрын
Us Aussies are also cracking jokes about it.
@Rich_1
@Rich_1 Жыл бұрын
Finally a real restoration video not a full on resto-mod
@Aphelia.
@Aphelia. Жыл бұрын
Loving the variety of restorations
@Synest2
@Synest2 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, thanks for the shout-out at the beginning of the video!
@giedrius6726
@giedrius6726 Жыл бұрын
So this is it a brand new good looking table fan great video hugh
@TeslaTales59
@TeslaTales59 Жыл бұрын
I vote yes! I try to fix most anything. It's good you are branching out.
@setaindustries
@setaindustries Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more of these old appliances being repaired, this was fun to watch!
@felvelasquezm
@felvelasquezm Жыл бұрын
Im glad you opened your work and talent to other artifacts! What about and old, tube TV? Cheers from chile 🇨🇱
@MirceaD28
@MirceaD28 Жыл бұрын
Fallout 4 vibes. Thank you Hugh.
@FatherMcKenzie66
@FatherMcKenzie66 10 ай бұрын
This desk fan is like those you see on those movies with ronald reagan, I really like it
@wobber999
@wobber999 Жыл бұрын
Nice change to the phone repairs Hugh, I do watch quite a few restoration videos and you have done a really great job keeping the fans long history.
@indetailcarcaresolutions3770
@indetailcarcaresolutions3770 Жыл бұрын
Good restoration Hugh. Art Deco was from early 1920s to mid 1930s. It overlapped with Bauhaus which started about 1925. Lloyd
@TonyCR1975
@TonyCR1975 Жыл бұрын
A spider inside an australian fan.. that sure was a big surprise
@DomainRider
@DomainRider Жыл бұрын
I find videos like this quite inspirational - partly because it's a worthwhile restoration, and partly because I hate to see functional items scrapped :-)
@stephensnell5707
@stephensnell5707 10 ай бұрын
Well anything HAS TO EVENTUALLY BE THROWN AWAY
@j.b.3113
@j.b.3113 Жыл бұрын
Do more of these, please and thank you! 👍
@lihtan
@lihtan 8 ай бұрын
My experience has been that motorized appliances like this often get chucked out because the motor appears seized. I would plug them in, and the motor would just buzz, but not spin. Taking it apart, I find that instead of a ball bearing motor, it just has a bronze bushing which has gone dry. A few drops of oil was all that was needed to restore operation. On some items like older power tools, and sewing machines, the case would have have tiny oil holes with a felt pad underneath that leads to the motor bushings. People often forget that these need occasional lubrication, and then toss it out because the motor stopped working.
@dmdaithim
@dmdaithim Жыл бұрын
A bit of heating of the seized area would have got the fan blades of the shaft I reckon.
@MegaDrainProductions
@MegaDrainProductions Жыл бұрын
This gives me iron man 3 vibes in where Tony's making all those non iron man stuff to invade the mansion. Tony makes all these high tech gadgets and iron man suits but is still able to work on regular things.
@ashok_chandra
@ashok_chandra Жыл бұрын
Love your videos Hugh, i must say i am a FAN
@x-x
@x-x Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more!
@ptp79
@ptp79 Жыл бұрын
i love it. Make more videos like this man Jef
@cheythompson740
@cheythompson740 Жыл бұрын
Oooo I love this video! Would love to see more resto videos
@LSnium
@LSnium Жыл бұрын
You know time’s getting rough when Hugh Jeffreys has to repair and clean a 1940s fan.
@smileyface8124
@smileyface8124 Жыл бұрын
Hugh should do restorations on old 1960's or older televisions.
@johnlarro6872
@johnlarro6872 Жыл бұрын
Bringing life where there was otherwise landfill. Well done. We only have so many resources on this planet...
@Marcos_Tired
@Marcos_Tired 11 ай бұрын
Imagine someone that probably is far gone at this point, buying this Fan in the 40s, using for a long time and then, many decade's later, the thing became a KZfaq video about restoration. We're truly small, aren't we?
@Martinchox
@Martinchox Жыл бұрын
i personally like the brand-new looks. i think whom ever made it, would like it to look spotless.
@plutorocks1
@plutorocks1 Жыл бұрын
Nothing feels satisfying other than removing rusts and cleaning them.
@marshadow205
@marshadow205 Жыл бұрын
Respect the effort bro...Respect all the way from jamaica
@ChrisSmith-mh6vk
@ChrisSmith-mh6vk Жыл бұрын
This week no i-Fixit, but rather a can of spray paint from Bunnings and an old electrical cord from a dead washing machine. Well done Hugh - love your work.
@1993MAZDAMIATA
@1993MAZDAMIATA Жыл бұрын
I know this probably goes without saying but if there are every any kids running around your house for whatever reason please make sure to unplug and place the fan up high due to the lack of a grate
@ceilingfanantlionguykiller2937
@ceilingfanantlionguykiller2937 Ай бұрын
Great restoration
@Metahec
@Metahec Жыл бұрын
My brother brought home an equally old fan he found at a junk sale once. The gear box was cracked and leaking grease, which worked its way to the blades and ended up spraying a thin film of grease over everything. Back to the junk pile with that one.
@caelari1722
@caelari1722 Жыл бұрын
7:08 = Stuck-up like this just needed lubrication, you moved the blade with your hand and it was hard, but if the blade spins lightly but not spinning when the motor is on, the capacitor or the motor is the reason needing for diagnosis... 10:34 = Please don't grase the what you called "bearing", we call it bushing, just put a little amount of all-purpose oil, a more viscous motor oil is better. A grease is a magnet for dusts so it would no help for lubrication betwwen be bushing and the shaft, it will even cause stuck-up especially if not often used. I also repair electric fan in our home, and the fan I am using while typing this comment was save from become a waste because of jist simple repair. Restoring such an old fan to a working state is very amusing, I was even surprised when you uploaded this vidoe.
@ventilate4267
@ventilate4267 Жыл бұрын
I think the paint you want is called "hammered"
@cuentaeliminada7176
@cuentaeliminada7176 Жыл бұрын
Hmm... I believe that one revolting computer from the 70s you cleaned a year and a but ago still takes the cake of "most disgusting"
@De4dSp0t
@De4dSp0t Жыл бұрын
liquid wrench and heat. Bolt buster will do wonders, although that is a pretty expensive tool but boy is it amazing.
@bilbp41
@bilbp41 Жыл бұрын
I’m impressed with what you doing. You’re only young but look at what you can do. I wish all the people were inspired and do what you do. I’m rich to blind but I can see everything on the screen so I’m enjoying your videos. I like the third and videos, especially on the phones.
@TheNeoMassacre
@TheNeoMassacre Жыл бұрын
Well Done, Old Stuff was build to last for Decades. New Stuff was build to Hold 2 Years and 1 Day so it is 1 Day over Warranty. Oldie but Goldie as we say.
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