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The guitars of VENOM - Mantas & Cronos - The early years.

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4 жыл бұрын

Black Metal and NWOBHM instigators Venom's early years discussed.

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Cronos gear over the years:
Bass guitars
Bulldozer Bass (Aria Pro with custom Trem Bar/wCustom Neck)
Aria Pro II SB1000 (Matte Black with Natural Stripe/wCustom Neck)
Aria Pro II SB1000 (Red with Natural Stripe/wCustom Neck)
Ibanez Destroyer Bass (Red Finish - left in USA after 1985 tour)
Gibson EB-3 Bass (Originally owned by Andy Fraser of band 'Free')
Ibanez Bass (Black Finish/wCustom Neck - Cronos band USA 1988 to 1992)
Fender Jazz Bass (Black Finish/with LED Lights/wCustom Neck)
Fender Jazz Bass (Red Finish - made fully fretless in 2010)
Fernandes 4 String Tremor Bass (Black Finish/wCustom Neck)
Fernandes 4 String Tremor Bass (Burgandy Finish/wCustom Neck) x 2
The Behemoth (custom made by 'Bass Professor' with thick piano strings)
Cronos also owns both Aria and Ibanez acoustic basses. He had two other basses which are seen on the DVD which comes with the deluxe version of Black Metal. These basses have been destroyed.
Cronos owns various 6 string guitars also which he plays to compose his songs with.
Now he uses a metalzone and sansamp along with a
Amplifiers
Acoustic 220 and 230 Bass Amplifiers
Acoustic B1000HD 1000W Bass Amplifiers
Peavey 500w Bass Amplifiers
Carlsboro Bass Amplifiers
Marshall Bass Amplifiers (also will play the JCM 800 & 900 series)
H&H 600w Power Amplifiers x 2
White 4x12 for recordings with the Acoustic Amp
Guitars (early gear)
Big blue fuzz. Pos homemade.
Flying V copy
Les Paul copy
Strat copy.
Marshall JCM800
Guitar cab from a mystery company
Ibanez Destroyer

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@richardpickman2826
@richardpickman2826 4 жыл бұрын
Venom was the loudest live band I've ever seen. I saw them when they were touring Possessed, and they both had two full stacks each. I literally couldn't hear right for a week afterwards.
@weebgrinder-AIArtistPro
@weebgrinder-AIArtistPro Жыл бұрын
🤓 but was if as loud as Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark? Lol (kidding) Rock on.
@darksl1de
@darksl1de 4 жыл бұрын
Man i was convinced that nobody could pull this off, but this is so close!. Videos on old bm and the tone is so scarce, so thanks alot for doing this!
@gabrielnolasco9732
@gabrielnolasco9732 3 жыл бұрын
Sick pfp! All hail
@darksl1de
@darksl1de 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielnolasco9732 hell yea! Cardiel is the man
@Bansidhe
@Bansidhe 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Have shared this on a Venom fans group. Mantas' tone was always filthy but in a good way.
@Mad_Axe_Man125
@Mad_Axe_Man125 2 жыл бұрын
Mantas is such an underrated guitarist he came up with some really exotic soundscapes and crazy solos like on flytrap. Eine Kleine Nacht Musik is their shining moment in my opinion. Its my favorite live album of all time. its got so much atmosphere.
@FATHEROFALLWORMS
@FATHEROFALLWORMS Жыл бұрын
I don't care if Venom is "lo fi" or "badly recorded" there's plenty of bands that supposedly are and sound like trash. Welcome to Hell especially sounds awesome, loud everything and harsh. Sounds perfect. Also I appreciate what you're doing from my own interest in audio engineering, this is a great KZfaq series.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE Жыл бұрын
Yep it sounds evil.
@richardspry6501
@richardspry6501 4 жыл бұрын
Me and my best mate call this sound Bathtub Metal, cause that's what it sounds like it was recorded in. Glorious!
@dystopiagear6999
@dystopiagear6999 4 жыл бұрын
For thirty years I've been very carefully stockpiling vintage bathtubs and old boombox tape recorders specifically to recreate that classic sound perfectly. I shall soon become filthy rich selling them to tone snobs...
@guntherachterhof4876
@guntherachterhof4876 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very accurate description of that sound 👏😂
@Tysandifer
@Tysandifer 3 жыл бұрын
Yea most people call it black metal...
@coldbastard6859
@coldbastard6859 4 жыл бұрын
Candlemass... now that is a band I haven't heard of in a long while.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
There is a thread on the facebook group about the gear they used on thier classic album.
@dennismoes7281
@dennismoes7281 4 жыл бұрын
Made one of this years best albums
@Mad_Axe_Man125
@Mad_Axe_Man125 2 жыл бұрын
"Its the attitude that people most respect about Venom..." you hit the nail on the head. I love Venom.
@kingofdragontown9680
@kingofdragontown9680 4 жыл бұрын
Glad Venom, Bathroy, and Celtic Frost were more self aware and more musically based bands. Those 3 kill on every album.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Early Hellhammer/Frost etc were influenced by Motorhead but they did thier own thing with it. Frost were influenced by Venom too imo.
@holysmoke8439
@holysmoke8439 Жыл бұрын
These guys r m orons basing music on a couple clowns they cherrypick
@weebgrinder-AIArtistPro
@weebgrinder-AIArtistPro Жыл бұрын
​@@holysmoke8439would you mind elaborating on what you're trying to communicate?
@johntaylor7496
@johntaylor7496 4 жыл бұрын
The main comment from Cronos that stood out to me in about 84 was "Why would you want to sacrifice a virgin?'. Something along those lines. For the record I was just kidding about Iommi with a hello kitty strat on the middle pickup. It doesnt have a middle pickup. Its an honor to get roasted by Tony. You got damn close with the neck.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. That's pretty funny.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
2:19 = Do the Mosh Potato.
@Citizen_J
@Citizen_J 4 жыл бұрын
quit stealing my moves!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
@@Citizen_J but I was born to dance...
@UriahBennett
@UriahBennett 4 жыл бұрын
Venom! Damn, what's next The Mentors? LOL Great vid, 15yo me from 1987 is giving you a fist bump.
@jasonrogers2433
@jasonrogers2433 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!!!! Circle of tone channel always kicking ass!!! Keep the vids coming man!!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason.
@ivanchernov3041
@ivanchernov3041 4 жыл бұрын
i waited for this video since the day i found this channel, thank you so much for making this
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you stuck around man! I get there in the end.
@immortalgram
@immortalgram 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting this. The classic Venom is one of my all time favorite bands and one of the bands that introduced me to extreme music. Always wondered how Mantas achieved such a crazy tone. Thanks again mate!
@MusicTherapyLaz
@MusicTherapyLaz 4 жыл бұрын
Hey O...I once sat next to one of the original members of the Circle Jerks flying to Europe...talked punk rock and the SF Bay Area Punk Rock Scene the whole way...I think his mane was Dave...played Sax...was living in Pacifica, CA at the time... had his address and everything but never caught up with him...regret that now man! What a cool dude! Thanks again for sharing these awesome stories! 😎🎸
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome.
@kimfaucher007
@kimfaucher007 4 жыл бұрын
When I came back with the "At War With Satan" LP that actually looked like it was leather bound, my parents had THE TALK with me about my music choices and punk rocker looks... Jeez, they thought it would make me change... 😈 that's when I actually joined a heavy metal band and I am still playing in a metal band ever since!!!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. The talk.
@guntherachterhof4876
@guntherachterhof4876 3 жыл бұрын
That's how it happens for the most part. I guess I was very lucky that my parents were amazing and pretty much let me choose my own path in life in regards to everything.
@V3xxe
@V3xxe 4 жыл бұрын
I was actually looking for this info to make a Cronos bass tone! Thanks man!
@user-yg7el2hj8j
@user-yg7el2hj8j 4 ай бұрын
The opening of "Witching hour" delivers probably the most brutal bassnoize ever recorded...It's Like hell opens it's gates...
@blakecurtis7809
@blakecurtis7809 4 жыл бұрын
Hats off to you making this video. And tackling the vocal parts. Awesome! Heh heh well done sir.
@richardtayter3762
@richardtayter3762 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Everybody I know wants to hate on them for being "such terrible musicians" etc. So what? I still like how the music sounds and how it makes me feel. I'd rather listen to all of Venom's "worst" stuff than to listen to any of Steve Vai's "best" stuff.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. When it came out it was groundbreaking and evil sounding. I heard it without seeing the image on tape and I thought it sounded evil.
@jimsinister13
@jimsinister13 4 жыл бұрын
ahhh , Venom. one of my favorites. I remember the first time I put that album on my turntable and being blown away with how brutal they sounded, good times. can you do a video on Celtic Frost, early W.A.S.P. or Testament next ? love your channel , keep up the great work.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
I've done one on Celtic Frost. I have a folder on the other two. Glad you like it!
@avelinosilvadias
@avelinosilvadias 4 жыл бұрын
Do the guitar tones on Discharges 'hear nothing see nothing say nothing'now that would be interesting also. This album was out at the same time as black metal, and blew everything out of the water at the time😎
@CastToVoid
@CastToVoid 4 жыл бұрын
I like the rant on black metal and the overhyped origins. You hear a guy like Hellhammer or especially Necrobutcher talk like they were gods among men while they were just a bunch of gatekeeping creepy kids in a recordstore basement
@dystopiagear6999
@dystopiagear6999 4 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious and sad because so many of those folks ranted so hard about posers, and so much of what they did was nothing *but* posing.
@8bitrandomencounter
@8bitrandomencounter 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard "LAY DOWN YOUR SOUL TO THE GODS ROCK AND ROLL!" I reverted back to a 14 year old version of myself. Thanks dude!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. Nice.
@stigmatvm228
@stigmatvm228 4 жыл бұрын
Good info man, and highly entertaining - that Venom story was rather explosive hahaha... =DDD
@magnobeliero236
@magnobeliero236 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh my good man, I was eager to see this
@JelloFluoride
@JelloFluoride 4 жыл бұрын
I can't even begin to tell you how cool it is when you do this. Also you nail it everytime.
@nightshift8249
@nightshift8249 4 жыл бұрын
You sir have a knack for revisiting all of the artists whose tone I am interested in. Great channel!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@timreynolds99
@timreynolds99 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I’ve been looking forward to this one for about 2 years!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@JeffBarberDigideus
@JeffBarberDigideus 4 жыл бұрын
Do Darkthrone's tone with "In The Shadow Of The Horns"
@matthewpeaty4864
@matthewpeaty4864 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! Any chance of seeing a video on Burzum - Filosofem? Just a stereo with some fuzz, treble for days!
@Satyros2os
@Satyros2os 4 жыл бұрын
The scream at the end reminded me very much of Bloodborne... Great work! Really enjoyed this! Well done Owen!!!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Lots of fun.
@nickmaatjes5611
@nickmaatjes5611 4 жыл бұрын
what a surprise, this is fantastic dude!!!!
@chrisholman2289
@chrisholman2289 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the mention Owen.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help
@brooksrownd2275
@brooksrownd2275 4 жыл бұрын
When I started listening we already had early Slayer, Possessed, etc. But they just seemed like some regular dudes from California. The guys in Venom had a reputation and image of being scary deviants. :D
@dystopiagear6999
@dystopiagear6999 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my first Venom album (and many others) in a small town record store in Wisconsin that also happened to be the only place in town where you could buy VHS porno tapes, and they only accepted cash. Rumor had it the owner also sold weed and shitty coke, but I didn't really know him and never worked up the guts to ask. I felt dirty and ashamed just for walking into that dump, and by gawd that's the way it *should* be. It was a far fucking cry from buying "underground" music at a brightly-lit, spotlessly clean store or ordering it with the click of a mouse with mommy's credit card, that's for sure.
@brooksrownd2275
@brooksrownd2275 4 жыл бұрын
@@dystopiagear6999 I lived in the Twin Cities, so I think I just got my vinyl Welcome To Hell at the Great American Music in the suburban mall LOL. But the mall store would only stock one or two of an album like this so I used to have to scour the racks frequently to avoid missing the few interesting metal albums they got in stock.
@dystopiagear6999
@dystopiagear6999 4 жыл бұрын
@@brooksrownd2275 That's funny. I guess they were afraid you might overdose on too much killer stuff at once, lol. :)
@Tysandifer
@Tysandifer 3 жыл бұрын
Well yea especially since venom were a band before any of those l..
@alfonsostrazzullo9256
@alfonsostrazzullo9256 Жыл бұрын
Came for the tone, stayed for the beautiful historical analysis of black metal. That bit was awesome. Elitists rather than Revolutionaries. The best definition to fit for black metalheads
@renatocamargo1843
@renatocamargo1843 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos man, helps me a lot.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man.
@imperium7846
@imperium7846 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what Blasphemy used?
@bardoface
@bardoface 10 ай бұрын
Great job!!!
@paulosicne8498
@paulosicne8498 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame Mantas had the visa issues during the taping of the Ultimate Revenge VHS release. It would have been great to see live Venom from Studio 54 on that release. I always wondered why it was only Cronos and Abaddon during the interview.
@Peter-by3ox
@Peter-by3ox 4 жыл бұрын
Not even Tony can have strop over this one man ;p excellent as always \m/
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. Cheers.
@charlesnewton1771
@charlesnewton1771 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend "Neat & Tidy" by John Tucker for an accurate portrayal of early Venom/ Conrad Lant at Impulse Studios. Snakepit Mag also had some interesting information as well.
@chaseth
@chaseth Жыл бұрын
The MXR Blue Box was a sub octave fuzz. You can dial it in for sub octave or more like a regular fuzz/overdrive. I bet it that pedal because it was available at the time.
@jasonhoudyschell666
@jasonhoudyschell666 4 жыл бұрын
Dam dude that sounds great! You nailed the vocals! It was so good I thought it was 1987 and i was 16 again!!! Fuck yes i love your attitude!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks man.
@g.scotthughes1303
@g.scotthughes1303 4 жыл бұрын
Kudos, Owen!
@kongandbasses8732
@kongandbasses8732 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Owen. I am interested in all the gear the bands used to record. As a bassplayer I naturally would love to hear more about the bass gear. A friend of mine has the verry same Acoustic 220 solid state head, bought it in the mid/end of the 1970's. He still plays it. And I bought a copy of that amp, made in China, in 1978. It was the exact same amp, just with another name, and the color sceme was red and white. First I played it over the built in speaker of my bass combo, then together with a Marshall 118" cab. Next I made a deal and got a 215" for the huge and heavy Marshall Cab. So it all started.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Good to know! I'll be doing a video series called fat strings Friday soon and I'll be showing the mic positions, speakers, tricks etc i use.
@williamgainford9332
@williamgainford9332 4 жыл бұрын
I remember them commenting that the metal of the time was so safe sounding - that they wanted to make a hellish racket, that was not a musical statement,really fuck things up , they definitely achieved that.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. I could see the influences of Alice Cooper and Kiss but what I love is they made it thier own and went hyperspeed.
@williamgainford9332
@williamgainford9332 4 жыл бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE yeh cronos loved gene simmons demon character - priest motorhead punk too
@18JR78
@18JR78 4 жыл бұрын
13:20 I appreciate the call out hahaha. Agreed.
@deluxemeat
@deluxemeat 4 жыл бұрын
Blue fuzz pedals: first things that come to mind are Foxx Tone Machine, Hornby Skewes or a Zonk Machine. Could also be blue Sola Sound Tone Bender...?
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We came up with a few of those on the facebook group when I started a thread about it but nobody mentioned the zonk machine so I'll put it on the list.
@ajaykumargoel9398
@ajaykumargoel9398 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Owen!! If you're doing black metal, how about Bathory next time?
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Yep that's coming next week.
@patgodzi5346
@patgodzi5346 9 ай бұрын
yes !! i had the same theory about bas news and venom ! you could fell the fire when it rained burning pyros on bloodlust back in the days ..
@williamgainford9332
@williamgainford9332 4 жыл бұрын
Gr8 shout about vim fuego being based on mantas , i always thought that too.
@EmmanuelOuellet84
@EmmanuelOuellet84 4 жыл бұрын
Tone suggestion: Ritchie Blackmore with Deep Purple in the 70s.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
I have a folder on that one. If anyone knows what he used for SURE on machine head let me know.
@zacharydavid403
@zacharydavid403 4 жыл бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE oh man. Who knows what Ritchie had done to those Majors.
@hopespotbrand.1725
@hopespotbrand.1725 4 жыл бұрын
Vox ac 30 with treble booster. many boosted warm clean tones. Major to big for studio. Fender strat with yabby cs69 single coil. He also had humbuckers in a strat early. There's pic from Manchester 74 gig.
@deathmetalmachine
@deathmetalmachine 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the bass tone the guitar tone was good but the bass tone is what made it epic
@KelticKabukiGirl
@KelticKabukiGirl 4 жыл бұрын
MXR Blue bOX USED ON nECK PICKUP AND TONE ROLLED BACK?
@simplebutnotsolongname6642
@simplebutnotsolongname6642 2 жыл бұрын
18:19 did you ever do that Cronos gear Video?
@baldyhead
@baldyhead 4 жыл бұрын
The only big blue fuzz I can think of from back then would be a JHS (John Hornby Skewes) FZ III Fuzz, which was a rebranded JEN fuzz pedal manufactured in Italy, and basically a form of Tonebender.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Yep that came up in the facebook group when I was trying to find out. This is what we speculated: MXR Blue box octive fuzz (sons of Satan etc had an octive effect) Dan armstrong BLUE Clipper (too small) FUZZ FACE Fresh Fuzz Super Fuzz (octive and LOTS in the UK) Park Fuzz Jen Fuzz AKA JHS/JHS FZ III Fuzz Colour sound solar sound Fuzz sound Honey Special Fuzz
@cosmicsman666
@cosmicsman666 4 жыл бұрын
Just requested to join the FB group.
@daveethridge7342
@daveethridge7342 4 жыл бұрын
I have a book on the history of stomp boxes. I'll try and find it. Maybe I can find out the mysterious blue fuzz.
@pittbrat7963
@pittbrat7963 4 жыл бұрын
Good show! Venom came into the NWOBHM scene later on, as bands like Tygers of pan tang, Angelwitch(both epic!) or Vardis and Diamond Head were much more earlier front runners. Early Venom was really very different from the "musicality" of NWOBHM. I saw the band in late 82' and early 84' with a world of difference between them. As far as i can remember both Cronos and Mantas did not have a pedal board in front of them, it was basically volume driven amps in utter relentless fashion! At the time , there were not many bands in this genre who could afford Gibsons or Fenders, and a lot of the Japanese copies were (ARE!)at the time(Electra,Aria, Hondo,etc..) really great sounding guitars for a small buck! I dig the rawness(lo-fi garage sound) and the harder sound they had in the beginning, later on they became much like a cartoon version of themselves, basically the same happened with the Norwegian scene.If you isten to early Mayhem and Burzum you simply can not get rid of a persistent "déja-vu" feeling so I lost interest very quickly. Might be interesting to do a feature on "hybrid" sounding bands or guitarists, there lies a real challenge! ;)
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Diamond Head were so good. If anyone knows what they used let me know. I love the TV performances. I don't know why they didn't blow up. I actually suggested the V may be the Electra James Hetfield used but the knobs did not align. Good info though. Speaking of Mayhem, I'm doing Bathory soon ;-)
@fuzzmountain7583
@fuzzmountain7583 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, could it have been a Univox Superfuzz? Some of those had a big blue and orange box.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Good shout. That came up on the facebook group when we were speculating about what big blue fuzz it was?
@holtonmattis9954
@holtonmattis9954 4 жыл бұрын
The Foxx Tone Machine also came in blue for a bit as well- similar sound profile of fuzz too
@blakejohnson7148
@blakejohnson7148 4 жыл бұрын
Yay! You finally did Venom!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. Yep.
@blakejohnson7148
@blakejohnson7148 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think that was a almost exactly a year ago when you said you were gonna do it.
@jmanitowabi
@jmanitowabi 4 жыл бұрын
You should check out Death from Above 1979 for more crazy bass tones if you haven’t already.
@HeavyMetalTones
@HeavyMetalTones 4 жыл бұрын
the greatest early metal band i have loved them for 35 years. COUNTESS
@TheBoondoggler
@TheBoondoggler 2 жыл бұрын
Mantas also played a Westone Dimension IV, seen in quite a few concert vids from around 84-85
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 жыл бұрын
Great info man.
@flatsix666
@flatsix666 4 жыл бұрын
Saw Venom in October '85 at the Brum Odeon. Great night. Cronos and co. just owned the crowd. Quite surprised they didn't burn the place down with the pyros! To keep a balance, two months later it was Marillion at the NEC. haha :)
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. My first good that band that I was in was called Seasons End.
@daveirrlicht9960
@daveirrlicht9960 2 жыл бұрын
The Odeon survived V because enom's pyro's were not fired as planned that night as they had been banned by the Birmingham Odeon Fire Officers. They did however trigger some silver sparks during Bloodlust. It was a great night though, I agree.
@ninjacaptor
@ninjacaptor 2 жыл бұрын
I saw interview where Venom said that they kind of heard the album The Destroyer album from Kiss and kind of base their sound on that but just made it faster
@Boiled-Egg-254
@Boiled-Egg-254 3 жыл бұрын
What is that first song
@AliJr_MetalGames_MetalGuitar
@AliJr_MetalGames_MetalGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
Could You find the tone for Bathory's first album?
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
I'm working on it right now.
@AliJr_MetalGames_MetalGuitar
@AliJr_MetalGames_MetalGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Thanks for such a quick reply!
@forever3797
@forever3797 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting you say this sounded like it was recorded underground - I always had that though about Into the Crypts of Rays by Celtic Frost - ever since I heard it when I was 13 in 1987 - I could never think of a better way to describe it and still cant - I have never heard anyone else use that term so I'm stoked.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome band.
@jasonhoudyschell666
@jasonhoudyschell666 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I love it.
@eellox
@eellox 2 жыл бұрын
The fuzz pedal was similar to a Sola Sound tone bender mk 2, but I forget the brand name.
@samthebassman6153
@samthebassman6153 4 жыл бұрын
Jcm800’s are super expensive. Are there any cheaper alternatives to this amp? Maybe under 500-1000$ anything helps!
@Cheremil
@Cheremil 4 жыл бұрын
Peavey Windsor
@gnomad8454
@gnomad8454 4 жыл бұрын
Colorsound one knob?
@CryptToneMusic
@CryptToneMusic 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of how Samhain recorded and it sounded bad but great. The dude recording them didn't do rock bands he did like disco etc which explains the weird but amazing atmosphere and also the harsh di guitars on some of the songs because it was a guitar into a dod250 straight into the board.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 ай бұрын
Awesome info. Where did you hear about the dod direct?
@CryptToneMusic
@CryptToneMusic 4 ай бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I asked Pete (Damien) on Facebook once what he used and he mentioned it along with his Marshall 1987 model, and some of the guitars like his Iceman, his SG, and also the aluminum neck Kramer axe owned by Eerie and Steve which that was used on Unholy passion. There also used to be an interview of him here on KZfaq but I can't seem to find it now it might've been taken down. In it he also showed some of the chords to some of the songs as well which is why I looked it up to try and learn them but couldn't find it.There is also this video where they supposedly have Damien's actual pedal signed by him and they're using it direct as you can hear like it is on the album somewhat. I find all the gear and recording of Samhain very interesting because in studio it was just very ambient and dark and weird but still in your face with those di guitars mixed in and then live it was full unbridled ripping Marshall tone and aggression. Even in some of the live footage with bad sound you can hear it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9ynhaRkypiziJc.htmlsi=Xy9ErDok2AatlV4L Crazy to think they almost toured with Metallica on the master of puppets tour in Europe in 86... Wouldve been some insane shows and probably a true fourth Samhain album called Grim. Just based on rumored track listings it could've been insane, like a Samhain sequel to walk among us. We technically got it in a way if you count the reel platinum versions of misfits songs done by Samhain and some of the tracks off final descent. It's all rumors I have nothing to back that info but it's cool to imagine Apologies for my ramblings hopefully some of this was helpful to you. Maybe you can hit up Pete on Facebook like I did he might be willing to tell you more ?
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 ай бұрын
@@CryptToneMusic fantastic info man.
@CryptToneMusic
@CryptToneMusic 4 ай бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE hope it helped, if you ever do a Samhain video I'd be eternally grateful 🙏 (or a misfits video haha)
@cosmicsman666
@cosmicsman666 4 жыл бұрын
First heard in 81 and me and my friends laughed... Laughter quickly turned us into being fanboys. Love em forever.
@arissp4950
@arissp4950 4 жыл бұрын
Finally. Perfect
@Terrible_Peril
@Terrible_Peril 4 жыл бұрын
I think Henry Rollins talked about touring with Venom at one point and he said they were very Spinal Tap. Compartmentalized like Slash, but also barely able to play their instruments. No idea if it’s true, don’t really care. The image in my head is glorious either way and I can still listen to Venom and enjoy it. Cronos’ voice is still a killer instrument, as evidenced on Dave Grohl’s Probot album.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
You may have jogged my memory. I think he talked about that when I saw him do his first story set tour about 12 years ago. May not have been venom but I remember him talking about the METUL!!! aspect of some of the bands from back in the day.
@Terrible_Peril
@Terrible_Peril 4 жыл бұрын
CIRCLE OF TONE. Or maybe it was Buzzo? I dunno, for some odd reason him and Henry sort of occupy the same space in my brain. Ooh, maybe a tonal deep dive into Buzz/ Melvins? The guitar part wouldn’t take too too much work. His rig is pretty simple overall. Hasn’t changed too much over the years, either. When I saw them in Boston I think he was still using beta lead heads and custom cabs (which at one point he joked about badging as “Blown” so whenever someone asked him what cabs he’s using he’d say ‘blown ones!’). Anyhosers, I appreciate you and your content. Cheers!
@kenvorland
@kenvorland Жыл бұрын
The one and black metal God Mantas cool video
@ToddTheJoker
@ToddTheJoker 4 жыл бұрын
This was great..I even remember a band that I loved which was close to Venom and they were Bathory, which was also a Venom song. The lead singer even claimed to be a vampire..I used to think he was the real Lestat when Lestat was a rockstar in the Vampire Chronicles..great stuff. I could never find any Bathory actual recordings ..all I ever had were recopies of cassettes but I loved it. Very early Sepultura were great and sounded identical.I just read that Quorthon had a heart attack and died in 2004..guess he wasn't a vampire after all huh? Bad News was awesome. So funny.
@kongandbasses8732
@kongandbasses8732 4 жыл бұрын
I became curious about Glary basses, so I ordered two P style basses - in yellow. They are € 85,-- in Germany. I have to say that I only found two things that are not that great: the fretts have sharp ends, and the saddle is cut in a hurry. The neck feels like it has the same profile as my MiM Fender Precision 50's Classic. I sanded down the backsides a bit, because they had a rough feel, just to make them feel smooth. The tone is a Precision bass tone, no doubt, the PU has not a lot of output. But this is where amps come in. After 30 minutes of work (for every bass) I now have a decent bass, cheap enough to sit in the rehearsal room without thinking "what about it gets stolen", just to have a bass there if you want to play a spontaneous session. The second bass is for a friend that quit bass playing because two kids have been comming 25 years back. He wants to start again and likes the bass a lot. I say, it is a decent bass, not much better than a cheap Fender Squier you find in Kickstarter sets, but good enough for a beginner or as a backup. My friend and I talked, and we would have loved it to have a bass like this back in the mid 1970's. You either had to buy a fucking expensive Fender, Gibson, Rick or (living in Germany) Hoefner, Hohner or Hopf, or you had to find (and to buy) "the used bass" you found by accident, because there was no used market. The cheaper MiJ copys came to Germany end of the 1970's/beginning of the 1980's. We would have given an arm and a leg for an affordable like those Glarys bass back in the days.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the nut? (you called it a saddle). If so I agree. When I did my bass review on the P bass the only issue I reported was the nut was a bit soft. I did need to do the fret ends of my Glarry strat though. In general the necks are pretty thirsty and I used wax n feed. This is what I do with most of my guitars regardless of cost: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bsiaoqRlsbLVl5s.html
@lordimpaler3899
@lordimpaler3899 4 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, the Peavey website said Kronos used a Windsor amp... obviously that was later on, but is that true?
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
He did use Peavey amps in the past. I think I have one listed in the description but I'm not sure about the Windsor. That's a solid amp though.
@lordimpaler3899
@lordimpaler3899 4 жыл бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Mine lasted all of 2 days...but thats a possibility with any amp, but yea, solid amp
@NateThunder
@NateThunder 4 жыл бұрын
Owen, could it have been an MXR Blue Box?
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good shout but that is a small pedal and he said it was a big blue fuzz. But it's an octive fuzz so it might be.
@blakecurtis7809
@blakecurtis7809 4 жыл бұрын
The Live in London video is classic. And yes, the bass solo is ridiculously awesome.
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
I like how it's the big show... The cameras the expensive drum riser, the pyro etc etc and Cronos breaks a bass string on black metal and you can't even tell the difference in sound. Haha.
@blakecurtis7809
@blakecurtis7809 4 жыл бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Forgot about the bass string.... Have not watched the video in almost 20 years. Yeah dude they are playing a huge rock concert that is Judas Priest sized. VENOM.... Of all bands to pull it off heh heh
@dystopiagear6999
@dystopiagear6999 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work! The other night I saw a local cover band of old farts who all had *very* expensive custom shop & vintage repro gear, and once again I was reminded what a complete crock of shit that is. Nearly all the true innovators of rock & metal used whatever the hell they could get their hands on, and much of it was quite cheap. Some of them modified or boosted it however they could with whatever they had. They all still stand out today because they sound unique. Barely any of the awesome classic tones you study and recreate would ever make it onto an album now, because almost none of them are "perfect" enough. Fuck perfection. Rock'n'roll should have sonic warts and scars and sound like it's just about to utterly fall apart.
@rjramone4051
@rjramone4051 9 ай бұрын
I love the drum sound.
@noirelectrique8782
@noirelectrique8782 9 ай бұрын
😆 \m/ this intro, I definitely have to work on vocals in addition to guitar to do that
@OrlandoHxC
@OrlandoHxC 4 жыл бұрын
What are the amp and pedal settings?
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Check out my Instagram. I forgot to take a pick of the amp like an idiot. There are mic pics etc.
@michaelheaton9503
@michaelheaton9503 4 жыл бұрын
How about doing Celtic Frost
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Already done! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rseqoKh60ZiWqYE.html
@williamgainford9332
@williamgainford9332 4 жыл бұрын
tomas gabriel fischer has the best rhythm guitar tone of all time - good shout
@michaelheaton9503
@michaelheaton9503 4 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I missed it, my bad
@michaelheaton9503
@michaelheaton9503 4 жыл бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE thanks for the link you're channel kicks ass
@piewacket
@piewacket 4 жыл бұрын
Venom , Bathory, Celtic Frost ! The roots Of black metal
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I've done Celtic Frost in the past and I'm working on Bathory right now. So if anyone knows what what used let me know.
@hmpz36911
@hmpz36911 4 жыл бұрын
More like the first sprouts
@LadyFairChildVideo
@LadyFairChildVideo 3 күн бұрын
cronos is actually a really good bass player on venom songs. his live bass "solo" not so much. but if you listen to what he's doing during the mantas solos, its some pretty intricate stuff.
@lecturehc
@lecturehc 4 жыл бұрын
Almost all early norwegian bm bands copied every aspect of Bathory in their earlier demos before finding their own voice. That says a lot for these pioneers.
@cosmicsman666
@cosmicsman666 4 жыл бұрын
Not too many times i can remember laughing at and loving an album at the same time. Early venom rule.
@zandig666
@zandig666 11 ай бұрын
I went over to a buddies in 81-82(??) He was listening to venom and mercyful fate I heard the venom and figgered priest was better and dismissed the mercyful unfortunately now 40 yrs later I'm a big king diamond fan 🙏🙏🤟🤟🤟🤟 You had to've been there black metal to us kids was actually a bit dangerous
@cigarettesmokingman9471
@cigarettesmokingman9471 4 жыл бұрын
blue box maybe? I use mine for fuzz and turn the octave off.
@mikeflanders1292
@mikeflanders1292 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, try an egnator vengeance amp thru a blackstar hvt 4x12.... I guarantee you'll come close to the venom sound. Close enough to tweak it just a little bit anyway
@captainkirk70
@captainkirk70 Жыл бұрын
MXR Blue Box?
@NoirL.A.
@NoirL.A. 4 жыл бұрын
this vid series reminds me in some respects of vh1's 'behind the music' insofar as the show is so good i enjoy it even if it's an artist i'm not into. i like VENOM, btw.
@davedynamite77
@davedynamite77 3 жыл бұрын
When I heard that first album I was like holy shit this is as fast as New York City hard-core
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 3 жыл бұрын
I remember thinking it sounded evil. Very vibey.
@aidenn0de0evil01
@aidenn0de0evil01 4 жыл бұрын
Mxr blue box.. coron.. Memphis pedal
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