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I found this video very useful! Now all we need is another MvM Update to encourage people to play MvM again.

Me: I'm terrible at MVM and all the guides out there are either too long or outdated Big Joey: Say no more. *PRESTO!* An MVM vid in 2018.

9:37 Rest in meme spoons Soundsmiff 2019 - 2019 Dieded by driving a cart into a death pit

I'm glad I was used for an edgy joke, when the whole point of the name was to sound silly. (Yes, I am actually that guy you used in your footage)

I am Heavy Weapons Guy, and this... Is my Brass Beast! She has large array of upgrades and can have crits from my canteen... It cost more then $3,000 to upgrade this gun... To max out everything! (Laughing issues) Oh, my god, who touched my Beast... Alright, WHO TOUCHED MY GUN!!! Some robots think they can outsmart me... Maybe, maybe... I have yet to meet one who can outsmart crit bullet...

GIANT SCOUT, HAS TAKEN OUR LIVES TAKEN OUR UBER TAKEN OUT TIME TAKEN OUR LAND MOVED THE SPAWN LEFT US WITH LIFE IN HEEEE~L

One thing to remember about knockback rage is that it reduces the damage you deal by a full half when you're using it, which is why it's generally looked down on since it dramatically lowers your damage, and the damage of everyone else who has weapons with falloff.

I got hit in the eye with a volleyball twice while watching this video :3

Health on kill can never be wrong. Jerma mentioned in a video about the Black Box that any item that heals you faster will help the medic finish his job and move on sooner. If you gain 25 hp on kill, that's easily 3-5 seconds that the medic is free to spend healing someone else who needs it. Plus, you can sustain yourself while he's busy or dead. Even with the healing expert upgrade, that's still a big chunk of time saved.

Thanks man. I rly needed the help on Heavy in MVM.

"Launch them into the air so that they receive fall damage" Sees a miserable 5 dmg

"And in it's current state really the only time i'd ever reccomend using this weapon" Me, using Brass Beast against a team of hacking bot snipers:Yes.

There are a few deviations I've made from this playstyle recommendation. For instance, I actually do run Shotgun in MVM to allow myself to deal damage while running to the front or when running away without having to rev up my shotgun. Heavy secondaries are only rarely used, so I just kinda run whatever I feel like. Also, I only buy Crit Resistance when there are crit-boosted robots. Robots cannot perform random critical hits, and those 450 credits can help aid your firing power or something else of the sort. Overall, though, great guide, it's nice to see someone making an up-to-date MVM guide.

Hi dude! I met you in a Blackwonder server today! You guys were honestly funny as hell, thank you for making my afternoon so funny. Thank you!

WOAH WOAH WOAH TIME SPLITTERS MUSIC HELLO???????????

Question: does the speed upgrade for heavy increase his movement when revved?

"the robot-pocalypse is finally here" That didn't age well

A few things: • Natascha is good for giant scouts (or swarms of them) and sentry busters • Family business out-DPS's stock as long as you can consistently hit your shots, so it's good for taking out tanks when your minigun is out of ammo, or to take out enemies closer to you • Killing gloves of Boxing are decent at killing scouts and going on a killing spree, or dropping a medic and dealing more damage to its pocket

*Large Joseph*

4:16 One of my personal favorite metal songs, Funny you mentioned it! Plus the darkness guy lol

Extra tip for Heavy against the tank. You can actually upgrade your attack speed on your melee and then pop a crit cantine and just start punching the tank. you actually do a lot more DPS to the tank this way than most classes save the phlog pyro

if you want to know a strat that sounds super specific but comes up a LOT more often than you'd think I'd go with 1) The hue long heater- if you bodyblock a lot of the scouts and giants especially if you have a competent pyro and a dispenser near. 2) The dalokohs bar- if you don't have a medic and get the health on kill upgrade, that little extra health can save you in a lot of situations and the faster recharge time can allow you throw health for your team much more regularly. 3) fists of steel- this one kinda explains itself.

I remember when I was engineer in the coal town building with a sniper and I told him "its me and you sniper were together in this!" But because I have a pubescent 14 year old voice he just said "f u c k y o u" and I burst out laughing.

Great video Joey I’m thankful your doing this as a lot of people need to know weapons and upgrades before they kill any robots

I disagree with ammo capacity because if you are beside a dispenser, you’ll never need extra ammo. That being said I think the decision should be made based on your engies dispenser placement

Just saying, knockback rage is extremely situational, mainly only for bosses, but if you have a demoman on your team (which you usually do) don't buy it. It will push the robots away from the demo's stickies.

4:24 - I recognize that song from the game Tasty Planet.

9:37 soundsmith casually dies in a hole

I actually prefer running Shotgun. Yes, it isn't exactly optimal, but when the Engies' dispenser is out of range, I tend to run out of ammo quite often. Having this little bit of chip damage to protect yourself from melee scoutbots can be helpful, especially with the Fists of Steel. I also like using it with the Brass Beast, since it lets me do chip damage at full speed.

no need for heavies, just be *FISH SCOUT*

i saw soundsmith in there

I wish Red and Blue worked together to beat the robots even though robots are blue

I'd actually recommend the killing gloves of boxing.

You forgot to add Metallica: one Into the music list in the desc

thumbs up for Metallica

9:40 rip sounsmith

Yo Joey, uhh...bullet penetration ain't the greatest upgrade to spring for my guy. The damage you do to subsequent enemies is nearly negligible and not worth the cost of investment unless you're on the last wave or two.

WOW! Very useful guide Joey, now all I need is -therapy- a guide to overcome my crippling social anxiety!

I actually go for resistances first on heavy. I find it great when combined with Destroy Projectiles you can basically sit in the middle of the wave not caring what robots come your way.

"The BEST tactics are" "get some sleep alright please I love you"

4:16 I'm digging the Metallica "One" song in representation of your HUD messing with the upgrades stations textures, I knew you didn't just grow your hair out for show, you're not a metal head. 🤘😝🤘 Rock On! Also I loved this video, it was extremely helpful.

Thanks for the info and nice metallica refrence.

6 years late to the party, but if there's anyone scrolling through, here's a tip from WeezyTF2's video on Heavy weapon choices. If you are playing on a map with tanks, consider benching the Sandvich and Gloves of Running Urgently for the Buffalo Steak Sandvich and Warrior's Spirit. The Buffalo Steak grants you minicrit melee attacks when eaten and the Warrior's Spirit has a +30% damage bonus, both when paired together have the potential to beat out a minigun in damage potential when faced against a tank. If you're worried of the downsides of both weapons, you really shouldn't be, most are negligible when facing a tank since tanks don't fight back, so you don't have to worry of the Buffalo Steak not healing you or the Warrior's Spirit giving you damage vulnerability.

Me: Superstitions are stupid Also Me: 11:52 maybe I like the video I'll get an australium on my next tour

The short version *equip the brassbeast* End

*watches guide* plays Mann up *round ends* *looks at my items gets australium minigun *gets m o i s t*

The movement speed buffs are really helpful for the Heavy especially when you are using the Brass Beast.

0:50 - Introduction to MvM 1:15 - Weapons 1:20 - Primaries 2:55 - Secondaries 3:20 - Melee 4:05 - Upgrades 4:25 - Primary 6:50 - Heavy 7:30 - Secondary & Melee 8:05 - Tactics 8:10 - Sticking it close 8:30 - Using dispensers 9:00 - Body Blocking 9:25 - Knockback rage 10:40 - Tank priority 11:25 - Heal your medics

*when you die to a giant demos grenade* DARKNESS! IMPRISONING ME! ALL THAT I SEE! ABSOLUTE HORROR! (Favorite song on and justice for all)

I have completed so many tours with this video thanks man

Time splitter future perfect main menu screen gave me goosebumps

"Somebody toucha my med!"

Hey man its me, chilicheezedog I wanted to say if you ever need a pocket med just contact me and I'll stay by your side had a fun game with ya m8

I don't why but every time I see his intro it reminds me of goosebumps

While I don’t have the pc to play tf2 you and people like lazy purple reignite the love and amazing feeling that tf2 should be about and keep me coming back to enjoy every sfm clip and video you put out thank you man

Ive been using the tomislav most of the time. My life is a lie

NickelBack Heavy: LOOK AT THIS GRAPH *Show's the rate of heavy's minigun going super up* Heavy with Tomislav: Uh- WELL LOOK AT THIS GRAPH! *Show's the rate of heavy's tomislav going super down* Me: HELL NO *Show's the rate of Big Joey's Subscriber Going up* Both: NANI?!

Projectile penetration can be straight up double your damage output if you line yourself up correctly. I'll usually grab 1 tick of it plus faster firing speed for wave 1, and leave projectile penetration at 1 tick for the rest of the game.

i didn't know about the tank minigun resistance. this helps a lot.

Loading screen Imprisoning me All that I see Absolute disappointment I cannot play I cannot game Trapping in frozen screen Damn I gotta restart agaaaaasaain!

Why am i watching this when I'm a medic main T - T

Thank you for your guiding video about heavy on mvm! Although it was helpful for me (I’m playing mvm since 2016) it might be useful for the guys who hasn’t played mvm. Typically, it’s a very basic tutorial. And yes, most of upgrades and weapons are very optional. First of all, Huo-Long Heater is a very powerful minigun unless you have a dispenser and enough money to fully upgrade ammo capacity. Usually, I pick this minigun when rounds 4-5 comes in. Dalokosh bar is useful when you don’t have a medic on your team And, I and most of my friends upgrade destroy projectiles. It’s very useful against soldiers and demos when your medic doesn’t have a shield and saves u a couple of seconds to survive and kill more robots. This upgrade has a priority next to projectile penetration and firing speed. Anyway, your video is actually good! I hope newcomers will learn about playing heavy. Hopefully I help you with my tips

knockback rage isn't good it makes your fire rate slower and pushes back meaning it cuts your damage in half, and third tick just doesn't work

Hi big Joey i wanna say something. I saw there's no pre-rev vs on tomislav minigun debate. Can you do that video again ??

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Love the Metalica refrence!

Great video, very helpful. Keep up your fantastic content! (Also that use of One by Metallica gave me a semi)

quick note: as a heavy main who plays alot of mvm, i actually wouldn't recommend upgrading your ammo capacity unless you have a bad engineer who's always somehow getting his gear destroyed. dispenser range should do you just fine in most situations.

3:20 I'd personally recommend the Warrior's Spirit if you're in a wave that has a lot of tanks or is only tanks with all other bots being support. If you combine it with the Buffalo Steak Sandwich and crit canteens and upgrade your firing speed to the max, you can take out a tank with 30k health BY YOURSELF on Coaltown. I've consistently done lots of damage with them when tanks are around, sometimes even out-damaging my teammates while using it. Of course, if there's other things to worry about, like Giants or large groups of bots, perhaps your time as a heavy would be better spent there instead of on the tank, so I'd only ever do it if there's nothing else to worry about or if whatever there is to worry about can be handled by other classes like Pyro or Spy/Sniper for example. Of course, other classes like Soldier or Pyro with a Phlog can output way more damage than a Heavy on tanks with the right upgrades, or even a Sniper with a Cleaner's Carbine and a Bushwacka maybe, but if you want to stick with Heavy and only Heavy, the Warrior's Spirit is fantastic for tanking out tanks. 4:43 Personally, my ranking of the minigun upgrades would go something like this: Firing Speed > Health On Kill (yes, even if you have a Medic) > Projectile Penetration > Destroy Projectiles > Ammo Capacity > Knockback Rage. The only reason I put Ammo Capacity as low as it is, is because if you have a good Engie, you won't have to worry about your ammo practically ever. If your Engie refuses to put his dispenser in locations that would be useful to you, or you simply don't have one at all, I'd move Ammo Capacity to being your #1 priority over anything else. Without a dispenser, you'll only be able to fire your gun for 30 seconds at BEST, if not slightly longer with ammo packs, but you'd be wasting more time than if you just had your Ammo Capacity maxed out, and you can easily use up half of your ammo on just ONE Giant, depending what kind of Giant it is, or how close you are to it. As for the Health On Kill, I'd say even with a Medic, having it at 100+ health on kill can increase your survivability tenfold. There's plenty of situations where you just wouldn't be able to survive long enough without it, like with giant waves of minigun Heavies, especially crit ones. Even with maxed Bullet and Crit Resistance, you'd only be able to survive a good couple seconds before the Heavies turn you into swiss cheese, even with a Medic pocketing you. Knockback Rage is as low it is because everything it does, a Pyro or even a Scout with the Shortstop can do better. The main use people have for it is to push Giants, but in order to get this ability you need to deal a specified amount of damage before you can use it, Pyro and Scout with the Shortstop can just do it on command. And not only that, but Pyro can airblast multiple targets at once with the click of a button, Heavy can only move one, maybe two if he alternates his fire rapidly, so Pyro would be able to do this same thing much better, and you should only worry about it if you just don't have a Pyro, or if there's lots of Giant Scouts, then it does have some use, as you can combine it with a teleport canteen to quickly teleport back to spawn and stop any Giant Scout that may have slipped past you with the bomb. Pyro could do the same thing, but would not be able to damage the Giant Scout while he stalls it from deploying the bomb. Lastly, Destroy Projectiles is surprisingly useful if you're going against several Giant Soldiers or Demomen, as you can sustain your fire directly at them without worry of being shot with an explosive. The only case where it wouldn't be as effective is if the projectile speed of said Giant Soldiers/Demos is quite fast, then you just simply don't have time to destroy all their projectiles. 6:59 Crit Resistance is only necessary if there are bots that deal crit damage, indicated by the blue border around their name, or soldiers with buffs, indicated by the rocket icons with flags. Otherwise, only really go for Blast Reistance and/or Bullet Resistance. Fire Resistance is practically useless, and as far as I'm aware, only actually reduces the afterburn time, not the damage taken from the flames themselves. Fire Resistance should only be looked at as an option if you either: Are dealing with a lot of Pyros/Flare Shot Pyros, or just have extra money to spend and literally have nothing better to spend it on. I'd even prioritize Movement Speed over Fire Resistance, because as a Heavy, being faster can help a lot, especially when paired with the Gloves of Running Urgently. In fact, since Heavy moves at a speed of 77% by default, if you combine that with the 30% movement speed of the GRU, you already move just as fast as an Engineer or a Sniper. Combine that with the 30% faster movement speed of the upgrades, and you can move at 123.2% movement speed. And if for some reason you combined this with the speed increase of the Buffalo Steak Sandwich, you can move at 150% movement speed, that's even faster than a Scout with no movement-altering effects, who moves at 133% movement speed. Lastly, you could even combine this with something like the Disciplinary Action or Concheror from Soldier, and you can make Heavy move at the insane speed of 181% movement speed, that's a good 8% faster than even a Scout with max speed upgrades. None of this was really necessary, but just fun to think about, the fact you can make Heavy even faster than a Scout.

The main thing I liked in this video is when he was played part of "One" By Metallica in the Upgrade station part

i play heavy in MVM so thanks for making this to help people like me who need help :)

Acually, my advice in MVM Heavy Canteens would be an Ammo Refill canteen. As a Heavy, you tend to use up ammo quick. So I'd just buy 3 of them to keep dishing out the damage and potentially never need a good engie in one or two waves.

Hey that's me in the video, I'm Exotic Tig3r.

Uncle Joey The Heavy main, I am now subscribed to you, I want to know more about how to play Heavy, and this video got me hooked.

Another good job

Thanks for that last tip on keeping meds alive, if only people listened to it XD

Hey nice guide man! Helped my heavy playstyle alot since I dont use em much on MvM. 👍

Thx so much for making this! ^-^ this helped a lot and i recently got my first botkiller weapon beacuse of these tips! You've earned a subscriber!

You could make an argument for using the kgb as well, as it grants crits for you so you don’t have to waste money on canteen upgrades and save it for your mini gun, and it’s infinite uses per wave, for free.

Fun fact: second tick of minigun firing speed does nothing, oh and knockback rage actually slows firing speed, forgot how much, but it's around 50%, oh and second and third tick only increase knockback to robots in the air, so yeah, don't get knockback or more than one tick of firing speed.

DARKNESS! IMPRISONING ME ALL THAT I SEE ABSOLUTE HORROR

8:08 Is just so nostalgic because I used to play a lot of Time Splitters and it's basically stamped my brain to never forget that song.

Even 6 years later this is still usefull

The new gloves of running urgently that brings me back

Best description ever

If your engi has upgraded his despencer range you don't really need more ammo at the begining and the end instead upgrade firing speed and projectile penetration Remember tho if you don't have a engi with despencer range you should upgrade ammo

Actually, the shotguns and tomislav can be amazing if you use a certain melee The killing gloves of boxing For shotguns I recommend the panic attack Get one melee kill, swap to shotgun, spam shots as fast as possible Recommended upgrades for this style: Fire rate Clip size Penetration Ammo capacity Reload speed Health on kill depends on the person, I never get it unless everything else is upgraded

For heavies that are humping dispensers: Please get the projectile destroyer upgrade if there are going to be a horde of soldiers, if you shoot the rockets and take most bullet damage, the engies won't have to worry about repairing their dispencer as much. Thank you.

Really good guide man, I actually really started getting into MvM today and realising why people enjoy it so much, it's so fun and way better than what some people think the entire aspect of it and the team work you have to put in is really cool! :D

Also I never knew a lot of the stuff you covered! Thanks big Joey!

Its so satisfying to completely deny a rapid fire soldier's full rocket spam attack

0:30 *"the biggest battle in tf2"* So big in fact the bots have invaded casual servers and can still be spotted to this day

1) equip the brass beast 2) shoot anything that is not red 3) kill the impostor 4) done

I always recommend most Heavies start with resists.

one of the few times where i use the huo-long heater is when a medic decides to uber me infront of a giant while also popping the shield . Yeah, you run out of ammo quickly, but robots will be dying fast and even faster when you got an engie and a pyro by your side

the holiday punch can make robots laugh and considering there are many ways to get crits in Mvm like canteens kritskrieg or from behind hits so it is also good when your team does not have a lot of time left to stop a bomb carrier

at least one level of destroy projectiles is a must have for me as soon as there's a giant crit soldier/demo. you can just sit at your spot and everytime theres a rocket heading towards you you can just destroy it. they cant do shit against you. it also actively reduces damage taken by regular bots as you shoot them since most of their projectiles will pass through your line of fire.

Still the best heavy guide in 2023 and counting.

Mvm is personality my favorite game mode, because it’s not everyday that you get to slaughter hundreds of robots and going through waves of them and each of them harder than the last, most of the time it’s a nice challenge, but I have recently started going on infinite cash servers, and sometimes the expert and other harder missions to be a bit hard despite having all upgrades