"Some malicious users were releasing extensions to steal people's personal information, and we're the only ones allowed to do that" - Google

"Some malicious users were releasing extensions to steal people's personal information, and we're the only ones allowed to do that" - Google

reddit

@@inparis5724 4chan

​@@inparis5724 reddit

Haha lol

This is right on the money with apple devices

remember when browser updates were optional and manual

@@andreamitchell4758 yeah vivaldi still does that, you can choose to enable auto downloads of your own accord

you don't need to imagine. it's already been here for thirty years. GNU Linux, Foss.

tf you using google search for?

Hell yeah. Full Comcast mode

dont think they will do that. google likes their ads non intrusive.

plz no

At that point I'd outright stop using it.

I wouldn't be surprised if in 2030 %99.89 of web traffic would just be ads.

SWEJ are hell bent on owning the web FTFY

@@andreamitchell4758 ah yes, the

You will live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.

They don't just want to own the web. They also want you dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.

You should already not be using chrome. Unless you’re referring to a chromium based browser.

Jump to Firefox, less resource intensive and better all around

@@MutleeIsTheAntiGod Been having bad luck with FF over the past few months and it’s garbage performance made me jump ship to Brave. Was surprised to see how well it resisted fingerprinting and it has a pretty extensive Adblock. Haven’t had any trouble with it.

I do already use Firefox, but have kept Chrome around for certain things including work. This would compel me to finally eliminate it and transfer those things to (possibly Firefox, not sure)

The fact that you keep using Chrome is already comical

I mean they don't even believe that themselves

2002: Google - "Don't be evil". 2022: Google - "Be evil".

Isn’t that why we invented civilization?

We're removing the dislikes... "for a safe and secure society." lol

@@user-lt2rw5nr9s Also Google, "why do I hear Boss Music?"

Username checks out

P.O BOX 666 Seems like someone is begging to be investigated.

Google now: Be Evil

they did change the motto when the founders left in 2015

Googles original motto really was don’t be overtly evil.

I want to switch to LW full time, but the tab sharing in FF is something I can't give up

Isn't hardened Firefox good enough? I have a hardened Firefox so what benefits would I gain were I to switch to LibreWolf (I also want to support the OG Firefox to maintain their userbase).

> "I feel like Firefox is the least of evils " No it isn't. Google directly funds FireFox development. Mozilla is Google's puppet. FireFox absolutely does not represent any genuine diversity in web browsers.

I actually use Edge as it seems to be the least memory hogging out of the bunch. I used FireDragon for awhile which is my Linux distros fork of Librewolf and found it sluggish and a memory hog

Brave

Imagine developing your own engine to eventually scrap it for chromium. 4:57 oh, wait

Similarly, the only reason I vote for Democrats is that they're not Republicans. (I'm actually not American but that's what I'd do if I was.)

@@Adamantium9001 If I was, I'd move, but you do you. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I’d love to see more people talking about Urbit as a possibility for the future of the Internet, or rather, a new Internet entirely.

@@RemiBoyz I am looking into it right now. Could you expand on why YOU think Urbit is the future?

Last time I checked in the editors favorites of the hidden wiki there was a document titled 'how to exit the matrix'. I'd recommend Reading and teaching yourself to understand and be able to implement what is taught in that document.. the WHOLE document. Reading it will also give you an idea of the type of matrix that we live in today. It's a free red pill.

I can do that right here: DO whatever you want. DON'T get caught if it's illegal.

do: anything, internet people can't hurt you, use linux dont: use a vpn or release your address or personal information

Doesn't matter. It's all we got to delay Google from full monopoly.

Progressive Firefox is a shithole

Bunch of woke people at Firefox. No thank you.

@@mazyata9958 lmao get over yourself. you're on a "woke" platform owned by another "woke" company, posting and using something a device by something you also probably see as woke

@@mazyata9958 Lol yeah MFers promoting Dark Mode over Light Mode because suddenly dark is more superior to white, sure lol

Thats why we need people to use radical irrationalism. If a given idea or policy leads to an end I disagree with the 'facts' 'science' or consensus doesnt matter. If people disagree they can fight me literally. Every hill is worth dying on. Fuck the optics.

i dont understand

Why are you locked in the bathroom

Nice.

Do you have a single fact to back that up?

The thing is - most people don't even care :-(

@@igorthelight sadly yes, but if everyone can work together to raise awareness, we could get people to care.

​@@igorthelight A lot of people care about not seeing ads even in the "I don't care about my privacy camp".

@@DisplayLine6.13.9 Agree!

@@DisplayLine6.13.9 I don't really care about my privacy because it's a fruitless effort in my eyes to protect my data. It's already raped and pillaged for every moment I spend on the web. But at least with my 10 ad blocking addons I can watch anime without ads.

Stop with this defeatist attitude. They are in the minority.

Couple of years from now and ''google'' will be vaporware at this rate.

We do can create good open source software that are able to compete with those closed source software, the thing is how much it will be used by the market and how many people will be willing to maintain and add things to this software

@@RobotronSage Well they are elite minority. Numbers don't necessarily mean power.

Capitalism is why we can't have nice things. It's also why we CAN have nice things, it's a double edged sword

@@JustA.Person Free market brings us nice things, until lobbing money is raised to make sure they're the only one who can sell you those nice things which ends up turning revolutionary technologies into garbage(compared to it's counterpart in an unfettered free market.)

Industrial Society and Its Future.

@@zman7357 this only happens because we all collectively decided to leave the biggest most omnipotent corporation out of the free market, the state. It becomes a matter of who can appease the most to the state, rather than satisfying the customers

@@marusdod3685 to combat that you simply need to constitutionalize lobbying and make it illegal. When the government is limited by its own rules which oversee every other rule, you can a situation that is extremely hard to find a loophole in. If lobbying is outlawed by some form of constitution, then companies and politicians would be wasting their time colluding because government funding is fairly transparent. The government does and should have a monopoly on force. But it should also be outside of trade (as long as no rights are violated of course). Since trade isn't in the constitution in any way, the game everyone plays is government appeasement over genuine economic strategy

well-deserved

Man, migration sucks and I've gone through it 3 times over my internet career. It's literally the length of a long, regrettable and unfulfilling relationship - like 5 years

imagine buying a KZfaq channel

@@raisisn smh what a normie

@mewtwoy ungoogled still calls home, some say

Don't forget "journey" and "experience". Like marketing acid to the ears.

Oh god, I loathed that shit. Ruined AIOS

yea i mean how do boomers even stumble upon scam sites?

@@dhruvakhera5011 they click on ads. Thank goodness adblock is here to protect us from such malicious practices.

@@paulitics3629 but to do that they have to be on a site that allows these ads so what do they browse in except gmail and facebook

@@dhruvakhera5011 ive gotten twitter ads that link to an article from some shitty tabloid site. Presumably they click that link, then click a malicious ad from there?

@Honey b. oooooooooo

oh boy i have news for you

@@lolcatwill what why

@@lolcatwill give the news.

@@lolcatwill give the news

​@@lolcatwill give the new

isn't it literally illegal to sell personal data? If it isn't, then why haven't we already made a legal framework regarding this? Early 00's is over it's time to adress this shit. (we said we were gonna change the laws to better suit the digital era but in the early 00's everyone was chill and it wasn't actually necessary) (but it looks like it's necessary these days, as they've forgotten what the unwritten rules of the internet are. Looks like we need to remind them)

what im scared of. when this goes down im switching back to firefox. but mozilla sucks at creativity.

Its like how android phones copy apple and drop headphones

@@Ultrajamz not really it's just the industry trend.

@@ashishpatel350 started by Apple

@@legitt6093 who tf are you lol apple is dogshit in every way lmao

gotta love the democratic nature of the internet

I hope it will be not too much complicated. Also it may be that Google will not remove v2 completely, just disable it.

@Это не я I can pipe the html to a file, and use a browser without internet connection to render it

Exactly the same with me. I use Arch, BTW.

I tried Arch, found it too hard as a Linux virgin. Now I'm on the Arch based Garuda, and I like it a lot. I've been using this distro for like 5 months now, and I've only had a couple of hiccups, like a buggy kernel update or shortcuts getting deleted once or twice.

@@tonik2558 I said it as a meme, I've only used Manjaro and never looked back when trying Garuda GNOME. I'm surprised to find someone else using it, though.

Unless you're going to do a little bit more than the default installation, Arch isn't necessary, Endeavouros will do. It's at this point Arch but with optional theme and optional apps. Edit: Typo fix.

What linux version are you using? I am looking to dual boot as well but i dont know where to start

and they always feared flash....LOL! adobe never would have achieved this. they weren't even that close before. always made just enough stupid decisions to stay behind and their paid software was/is laughably easy to pirate, anyways... google is a real menace.... apple, facebook, microsoft, amazon, and the other BIG PLAYERS as well.

How do you get the grip on their source code?

@@bonbonpony most extensions are fairly simple by nature, and you just need to extract the .crx file to view its source. For example there is an extension to make ChromeOS tile windows dynamically, and you'd think that an extension like this is fairly complex. It only had 1000 or so installs, so I went through it just to be safe. Ultimately it's only like 10 functions and about 200 lines, and the 5 or so extensions I've been through are roughly that length. Going through them I simply look for obfuscation (regular expressions) anything that may phone home to the mothership, and anything that just seems off. I'm not an experienced programmer by any means, but if you have a decent grip on coding then it's not too difficult.

@@iusegentoobtw Extract from where? I don't see any way to see what the browser is downloading as the extension and from where, same after installing the extension. So where can I find the sources? I'd like to either see them BEFORE I'll install it, or download & install it manually after inspection.

@@bonbonpony you'll provide the url for the extension on that site, then manipulate it from there (download, view files, etc) Hope that makes things clear.

Making a browser from scratch is one of the most challenging and time-intensive things in software. It takes a full team of developers many many hours to make something decent. How will it be financed? Government? Donations? Subscription model? Ads?

@@NawidN Yeah, same as game engines, web servers, and pretty much every other complex software. And yet people make those things. So why is there a conviction that browsers are some sort of voo-doo black magic that only corporations can make? :q It's just a piece of software, like everything else. If one person can write a game engine, then one person can write a web engine. It's even based on the same principles. But of course it doesn't have to be written by just one person, it can be split into modules and each person can work on a separate module. How will it be financed? Well, why should it be financed to begin with? :q Notice that I don't say that it cannot, just that it doesn't necessarily have to. There's a lot of big projects that are not financed, and yet people are making them, because they feel like it. And when it comes to browsers, this should be a priority for such people, considering how important such piece of software is for our freedom. And yet no one wants to fight for it by writing a piece of code? :q Well, then you deserve to be screwed over by corporations, I guess :q But if you necessarily need financing, then look at how projects such as Godot Engine get their financing, while still remaining free and open source. It's totally possible. You see? The difference between me and you (and pretty much everyone else) is that you're looking for excuses to do nothing and base your judgement on your own fears, superstitions and scary imagination of how hard it could be, while I've done my research, looked through the source code of multiple browsers, learned how they work, what functionalities they should implement, how they can be implemented, and this way I _know_ that this is _totally possible_ even for a single person to write. I even started writing some code already, a couple of months ago. Will it take effort and time? For sure. But better start now than wait until it will become really impossible when the corporations will dominate the world.

@@bonbonpony of course, single person can make browser. And be the only user of it. Because no one else will be interesting in using it. I completely agree that open-source and independent alternative is needed. But I don't see the way how it is possible to be done.

Theres a ton, but they’re all chromium based

@@kenos911 Yes, and they're like different color frames to the same picture. They're not really different browsers if the bulk of the code (the web engine) stays the same. All that changes is the user interface, and even that is rather debatable (considering how similar those UIs are).

They are checked. Updates, too. The problem is the amount of extensions that are submitted. It requires a huge amount of people and time to review software. It's easier said than done to "just check the source code for malicious code". And just because source code is available, does not mean that exact source code is deployed for the majority of users. Not everyone knows (or even should know) to build arbitrary source code to "feel safe"; especially if you have no idea what to look out for to make sure a piece of software doesn't work as intended, whether maliciously or not. Security is a compromise between user experience and robustness. You can't have one without compromising the other.

Get Fennec F-Droid (it's actually Fenix if you know what that means). It's based on the stable channel, but with those advanced options brought over from Nightly.

Actually it seems more like the beginning of the end for chrome period. (and google) (and youtube)

@@RobotronSage I wish.

i usually use chromium but the old quantum theme looks really nice. the new theme looks weird to me

i wish they brought back the older ui, looked better than the new one, and was more compact

@@scarecat Chromium's older UI was also more compact and better looking

Me too. I use chrome only for incognito as its ads are really damn funny.(and they’re not on private mode for some reason) Might harden tbh

@@TorutheRedFox agreed

Naw, stealing data is now Chrome's job thanks to FLoC -- FLoC is meant to be a new way to make your browser do the profiling that third-party trackers used to do themselves: in this case, boiling down your recent browsing activity into a behavioral label, and then sharing it with websites and advertisers.

@@Mario583a So you're saying I should go on a bunch of really stupid sites that have nothing to do with me to ruin their data?

exactly I'd rather spend another 10 minutes looking for something rather then "pweas disabre adblock uwu, we need mona xoxo"

You won't have a choice soon. Firefox is on its last legs and essentially every other browser is based on Chromium.

@@mjdxp5688 last legs?

Most people want "free" despite the true cost.

I use Firefox all the time. What ate you on about?

​@@mjdxp5688 I can almost guarantee you if it gets bad enough people will carry on with de-spooking chromium. Firefox is also starting to glow in the dark so you may want to consider jumping that ship

Haven't set up a pi-hole yet, but this definitely ups my desire to set one up.

I'd want to give you an advice. If this happens again, there is a half measure: ctrl+pageup / ctrl+pagedown or (preferable) Vimium/other extensions which supposed to change the control methods; the methods of tab switch in particular.

Since Firefox went over to Fenix on Android, keyboard shortcuts have stopped working completely. Oh, that and the extensions thing

@@LucasVinicius-db6sd before fenix firefox android was THE mobile browser.

I have no fucking idea how people tolerate chrome and the internet without add-ons. I'll admit chrome is just way faster... on my android, but on my computer having to way 0.5s extra for using Firefox vs having to use chrome?no thanks. I've never seen that "performance boost" you get from Chrome, but I've seen the lack of customization and adons on Chrome. For me it's Firefox all the way, and when ever there's "compatibility issues" just wipe out the good old Edge, I mean if I'm going to sell out at least I can make it easy on myself and use the default butplug

Patrick Star: "Who you callin 'pinhead'?

Chrome devs love to remove useful flags for no reason

You switch to Vivaldi if you want that as an easy access setting on a chromium browser

Tf2 no update lol

Agreed

Willingly copying all your data to send to a remote server... Yeah, that's Chrome alright.

the thing is is that it kinda already does, although lacking in clarity

Yes, good luck using that. Maybe you can read some articles, but everything else is a lost cause.

Replying because I'm curious about that, too.

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Well, opera gx is chromium based but firefox is not thats right. It will prob. be pushed into chromium so yeah, it kinda does affect all chromium based browsers except if the browser creators find a work around

@@Akab thx for the info, didn't know opera gx was also chromium based Hope they find a work arround manifest v3

Ungoogled Chromium

librewolf or ungoogled chromium (though i recommend the former, since it's not chromium and is decently hardened)

firefox is a trash browser and mozilla is a trash organization it's got a built in sponsored extension (pocket) it's got built in ads (sponsored stories) it's got tracking up the ass that you can't disable it literally opens tabs on its own to advertise mozilla's white label VPN service, google doesn't even do this they're even too incompetent to sign their extension certificates and everyone's browser broke at the same time a year or two ago if anything firefox is worse, they take the moral high ground publicly because of their nonprofit status but they are in it to make money. if they could sell out and profit they would, you bet your ass they are trying. same monster, different face. coming from a daily chrome and edge and firefox user since before version 2

The market share keeps falling

@@theodiscusgaming3909 How can gaming be teutonic?

@@edgepixel8467 How can anyone care about a username?

Who gives a fuck about windows?

@@RobotronSage The overwhelming majority of computer users don’t care about anything but Windows.

extensions can read your cookies and get your accounts.

Is firefox not even considered a major browser anymore? :( I thought the major browsers were Chrome, Edge, Safari and Firefox and maybe Brave

@@magnusanderson6681 firefox is no longer what it was meant to be. it's just a shittier chrome in functionality. codebase and the names behind it are all that separate it from chrome

Theoretically, Vivaldi. But will see. And it is glitchy as hell.