The Hillsville Massacre of 1912.

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The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

5 жыл бұрын

The frontier culture meets civilization in rural Virginia. In 1912, a misplaced kiss set off a string of events that pitted a powerful frontier clan against their political rivals and concepts of modern justice. The events that followed, the Hillsville Massacre or the Courthouse Tragedy, shocked and captivated the nation.
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@chrisedwards6270
@chrisedwards6270 3 жыл бұрын
My greatgrandfather was a Hillsville deputy at this, he rode in the posse that pursued the Allens. This is a great concise telling of the events, thanks!
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 Жыл бұрын
Like the Mafia hunters of today - He must have been a brave man.
@20alphabet
@20alphabet Жыл бұрын
What was so great about him?
@upsidedownopinion1440
@upsidedownopinion1440 Жыл бұрын
Well it was self defense and your great grandfather was a pig and a criminal.
@tmckenny2994
@tmckenny2994 8 ай бұрын
@@20alphabetmuch that you’d never understand
@wazza33racer
@wazza33racer 5 жыл бұрын
This what happens, when people dont stand up to bullies. They only get bolder until their acts are too outrageous to ignore.
@PHIL5251
@PHIL5251 4 жыл бұрын
Even worse if our government and society Erace history and forget don’t remember we are destined to repeat it again how retarded is that
@kathygoheen4626
@kathygoheen4626 4 жыл бұрын
As in Donald John Trump
@bravobravoh1344
@bravobravoh1344 3 жыл бұрын
@@kathygoheen4626 as in the BLM and Antifa thugs and the Democrats who support them.
@kathygoheen4626
@kathygoheen4626 3 жыл бұрын
@@bravobravoh1344 obviously you are not paying attention. Using aviation/military call signals as your handle makes you feel tough, sad.
@Joanla1954
@Joanla1954 3 жыл бұрын
@@kathygoheen4626 Whoa!!! You attack them just because they said something different than you? Something on target? Something they are welcome to say and if they are an American have a blood bought right to say? (As do you, of course in your first post) Who is President Trump out shooting? What businesses is President Trump burning down? What stores is President Trump looting? This video is about bullies, about people that break laws, so BravoVictorDelta is attacked for pointing out a lawless crew as does this video. And do you know what? Their very handle may be a clue that they served the USA in uniform so you could have the right to attack a President that has nothing to do with this story, divert the conversation from what the 2 posters above you slanderous post were talking about. Yes!! They may well have served to give you that very right! How do you thank them? Hope you feel tough, sad.
@furrymessiah
@furrymessiah 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in the town where the two brothers fled to in North Carolina for 25 years, and went on well over a dozen trips to Hillsville over that time. It's a testament to how forgotten this story is, by the fact I'd never heard of it until watching this video. On a more pleasant note, Carroll County, Virginia has some amazing scenery, features a portion of the Blue Ridge Parkway, and grows the best apples I've ever eaten in my entire life.
@dwightprice1083
@dwightprice1083 5 жыл бұрын
"The average man will bristle if you say his father was dishonest, but he will brag a little if he discovers that his great-grandfather was a pirate" - Bernard Williams
@Tsar_NicholasIII
@Tsar_NicholasIII 4 жыл бұрын
@Unkraut60 It might actually be more pathetic that that is the only reason he's in office.
@spokanefut
@spokanefut 4 жыл бұрын
@kev googlestein He wishes. Trump's grampies were just pimps and draft dodgers. It is documented.
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 4 жыл бұрын
Your post is OFF TOPIC. Save ALL the current political bullshit for Facebook. It does not belong polluting the History Guy's content. You know this so take that teentard trolling bullshit elsewhere. I don't even like the guy but unlike yourself I know what belongs in what parts of the internet. Defecating that silly trolling garbage into KZfaq channels intended for intelligent discussion is RUDE AND WRONG AND YOU KNEW THIS BUT JUST HAD TO DO IT ANYWAY. Grow the fuck up or go post on 4chan.
@shaneschluter9648
@shaneschluter9648 4 жыл бұрын
@kev googlestein better than your bitch ass country
@soulstorm8806
@soulstorm8806 4 жыл бұрын
A pirate is a murderer especially during those times. Nothing to brag about. Lots to atone for.
@MikeHonan6
@MikeHonan6 4 жыл бұрын
My dad always said that history was stranger than fiction. Great episode!
@joelberlakovich8148
@joelberlakovich8148 4 жыл бұрын
If you, sir, were my college history professor, I - and I suspect many others - would have fought through any nasty weather (or hangover...) just to hear your insight. Thank you for your channel.
@kingjellybean9795
@kingjellybean9795 2 жыл бұрын
@Colin Killian and manufacture debt
@Kremithefrog1
@Kremithefrog1 Жыл бұрын
Same. The only class I never missed was an American Government class because it was entertaining and educational.
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 Жыл бұрын
Hindsight is wonderful for those who search for excuses for their failings.
@captainexcabier
@captainexcabier 5 жыл бұрын
This is just a general commentary on all the videos of yours that I've watched so far, but you really make me miss the History Channel from back before it became reality TV and alien conspiracies.
@GMAMEC
@GMAMEC 5 жыл бұрын
I still don’t understand why the History Channel decided to abandon wonderful history programs. Most people would agree that it wasn’t profitable, but I even tried paying for their app for better content. Unfortunately, I was deeply disappointed.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 4 жыл бұрын
The first disaster struck when the History channel turned into the wW II obsessed Hitlery Channel... then insult joined injury and Hitlery channel became the Hysteria channel.. And I'm scared to imagine, what the fourth incarnation might be like that undoubtedly will some day be upon us... Maybe a Heisty channel? Or a hilarity channel? :-p
@elizabethsohler1847
@elizabethsohler1847 4 жыл бұрын
@@GMAMEC I seem to remember that it had something to do with a writer's strike some years ago . I don't remember when.
@MMAGamblingTips
@MMAGamblingTips 4 жыл бұрын
GMAMEC Have you ever tried CuriosityStream? It’s like the history channel used to be but better. I get it for free with a subscription I have, I’m not sure if it cost money or not but cannot be too much. Check it out.
@MMAGamblingTips
@MMAGamblingTips 4 жыл бұрын
steve hazard 😂
@carriehunt9741
@carriehunt9741 5 жыл бұрын
I was so amazed to see this entry. My family has lived in Wythe County (next door to Carroll County) since the earth was cooling. My aunt, who was born in 1904, remembered when this happened and a man came rushing in to tell them that “The Allen’s had shot up the Carroll County courthouse!” I even got to read a contemporary news article about it, but you had more information. Thank you! I love this series.
@berlymahn
@berlymahn 5 жыл бұрын
you are what I wish the History channel would be. thank you again. best ever.
@Bluebelle51
@Bluebelle51 5 жыл бұрын
when the History channel started, all they had was documentaries on WW2, so much that after a few months we jokingly referred to it as "The Hitler Channel". They really struggled for content in the beginning before they began to self produce decent content. Then they got bought by some massive corporation and they're not worth watching anymore
@leemaxwell1912
@leemaxwell1912 5 жыл бұрын
Follow the money, said a great if anonymous, until recently, historical figure.
@sloppyjoe400
@sloppyjoe400 5 жыл бұрын
The history channel is trash..
@jimhipster405
@jimhipster405 5 жыл бұрын
What happened to the History channel ?
@BSNFabricating
@BSNFabricating 5 жыл бұрын
The "History" Channel is still on the air?
@faeriefire99
@faeriefire99 5 жыл бұрын
I was very surprised to see this story. I'm a native, not just of Carroll County, but Hillsville, and a distant decedent of the Allens. The Sydney Allen shootout is a story everyone hears at some point. Most of our county events are held on Main Street, in front of the courthouse where the holes are still visible. This was a fantastic summary, well made, and historically as accurate as possible. Tha k you for telling it!
@elvis316
@elvis316 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why youtube told me to watch this, but glad I did. Amazing story telling and editing.
@robertansley6331
@robertansley6331 4 жыл бұрын
You know it’s not easy to find relevant images to place on your timeline. But what I really appreciate about your work versus other story tellers is that you don’t grab a bunch of stock photos from shutterstock that have nothing to do with the story just to fill it out. No dogs playing poker or still frames from Western movies. And your stories are well written and interesting!
@UnknownUzer
@UnknownUzer 5 жыл бұрын
My father's family are from an area near Hillsview and as a kid I visited the courthouse where this occurred I still have the book i got from there that tells the story of the massacre. I always view it as local history, so I was stunned to see it featured here. Thanks you for bringing this to the attention of a new generation and for teaching me more about my local history than I knew.
@asully3006
@asully3006 5 жыл бұрын
The Titanic tie-in had flavors of Paul Harvey when he did his radio program in the 70's and 80's called "The Rest Of The Story". How many of you remember that? Hum ??? . :)
@scottishgirl8259
@scottishgirl8259 5 жыл бұрын
LIGO I do😊
@theoutdoorsman9726
@theoutdoorsman9726 5 жыл бұрын
LIGO I was only a kid but man I used to love Paul Harvey’s stories on the radio. I’ve always loved history for as long as I can remember. When I was a kid I can still remember watching the history channel when my friends would be home watching cartoons. Lol It seems like I remember that Paul Harvey did a daily show on radio and I loved it when I got to listen to them. “And now you know- the rest of the story...”
@skipbellon4342
@skipbellon4342 5 жыл бұрын
Good Day!
@one_moreand_we_go9285
@one_moreand_we_go9285 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, wait. Is that the guy who would kick off his show, with whitty commentary? " How big a boy are ya?"
@markpeters8809
@markpeters8809 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed Paul Harvey, irreplaceable.
@jaguarsky55
@jaguarsky55 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vid. I remember my daddy telling me this story when I was small. We were on a family vacation, passing through the area and drove by a house of one of the actors in this tale. I sat in the back seat enthralled by his storytelling. If I remember correctly, I think there had been a family member of ours present at the courthouse that day, so not only was it a historical footnote, but a family story as well.
@lisamcdonald2877
@lisamcdonald2877 2 жыл бұрын
It was a gift that I grew up with elderly grandparents from Ashe County, NC. My grandfather was born in 1886 and he loved telling his stories. I know that I am likely the last member of my family who will care about the past. It is sad.
@hot88s23
@hot88s23 2 жыл бұрын
You probably drove by the house of Sidna Allen.
@jaguarsky55
@jaguarsky55 2 жыл бұрын
@@hot88s23 I don't know, I only remember that it kind of sat on a bit of a rise sort of by itself. Big ol' Victorian looking place in not so great shape. Of course that was about 65 years ago so my memory isn't what it used to be.
@hot88s23
@hot88s23 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaguarsky55 Your memory is pretty accurate. They're trying to restore it now.
@jaguarsky55
@jaguarsky55 2 жыл бұрын
@@hot88s23 I'm really happy to hear that. I hate that so many of those old places go to seed. It always breaks my heart.
@albruckelmeyer1417
@albruckelmeyer1417 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in Fries , Virginia for many years and the Allen clan was one the first history lessons I learned about the area when I moved there .
@MrPoupard
@MrPoupard 5 жыл бұрын
Completely unknown to me. Interesting. Rabid self interest, fierce family loyalty, violence, intimidation, corruption of officials - the usual modus operandi of thugs throughout history.
@drizler
@drizler 4 жыл бұрын
MrPoupard Not much different than most mafia factions and similar wannabe thug families.
@anstef1485
@anstef1485 4 жыл бұрын
Like Trump and his cronies! History repeats itself, but at a more dangerous level. Thank you for sharing!
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@663rainmaker 4 жыл бұрын
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@ShellyCline
@ShellyCline 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think there was a whole lot of family loyalty involved. After all, they were always shooting each other!!!!
@o2tank046
@o2tank046 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Carroll County, VA and the court house and Allen house are still standing and very much monuments to this day. They represent a horrible past but a history no less.
@cardboardguy1444
@cardboardguy1444 5 жыл бұрын
Ever been to the museum at the courthouse?
@jt6366
@jt6366 4 жыл бұрын
o2tank 04 perhaps horrible events are represented, but as stated in the video, it’s representative of the changing times. An era and paradigm shift in the publics frontier mentality in that place at that time. Looking back we are often highly sensitive to certain issues because of our political climate, but the people living then were more akin to war hardened soldiers who get in fist fights for the sheer joy of it. I love the history of your area and county as colorful as it is.
@sebione3576
@sebione3576 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the bullet holes?
@dannyl2598
@dannyl2598 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebione3576 I can show you two in the stairs on the right.
@kellybreen5526
@kellybreen5526 4 жыл бұрын
I finally got around to watching this episode. Every one of your "snippets of forgotten history" are just pure gold.
@bobl5121
@bobl5121 5 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the Hillsville area back in the 50's thru a good portion of the 70's. I remember hearing a lot of what was discussed in this video in private conversations among family and friends since the wounds had not healed completely during this time. I left the area in the late 70's and haven't lived there since. So I'm not exactly sure how the people in the area feel about this event today. Thanks for the video!!
@brittanymoldovan4735
@brittanymoldovan4735 5 жыл бұрын
Im a Hillsville resident . My husband is working on the renovation of the Allen House !! Moldovan Masonry 😀
@dankirchner5352
@dankirchner5352 5 жыл бұрын
Doing a great job I may say being from Chicago moving here ..the culture here is soo Deep in history an seeing the court house in hillsville im in galax now with my wife an love the stories just like Chicago an to have a grandpa who was a police officer an busted BIG AL'S HIDE OUTS SEEMS TO MAKE MY LIFE COMPLETE HERE WITH HISTORY 👍👍
@mechellturner3915
@mechellturner3915 5 жыл бұрын
its a beautiful House. My great grandpa Tate hid them in NC granny Ollie fed them. Its still a big battle.
@ubisoftlikcotton3447
@ubisoftlikcotton3447 5 жыл бұрын
Cool history love the flea market!
@BertHebb
@BertHebb 5 жыл бұрын
Brittany Moldovan that’s my moms side
@RickJames-xy6io
@RickJames-xy6io 5 жыл бұрын
Mechell Turner I love this story! I wish we could go back in time. These men are legends. Never submit to the law! A lot of outlaws lived ethically but not lawfully. There is a big difference!
@davidperry970
@davidperry970 5 жыл бұрын
My great-great grandfather, Peter Scott was one of the two deputies sent to NC to retrieve the Allen boys. The story has changed hands many times in a 100 years but the account given here is pretty good. Hard to believe that so many guns were allowed into the courthouse.
@boboutelama5748
@boboutelama5748 5 жыл бұрын
We should do it today. You know... second amendment. ^^
@davidfw190
@davidfw190 5 жыл бұрын
So very true. People could carry there guns into court a long time before this @@boboutelama5748
@brainfreeze44131
@brainfreeze44131 5 жыл бұрын
Would you want to be on the jury of a gang member?
@gregdavis19
@gregdavis19 5 жыл бұрын
david perry I’m glad your great great grandpa wasn’t harmed.
@AJdet-2
@AJdet-2 5 жыл бұрын
2nd amendment
@davidthomas4645
@davidthomas4645 4 жыл бұрын
I have studied history for 55 years and you are the best narrator and story teller ever. What a great story.
@charlotteburnham6302
@charlotteburnham6302 4 жыл бұрын
I am so proud this popped up as a suggestion. This is a great channel. History rocks.
@joethebassplayer
@joethebassplayer 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are my favorite thing on KZfaq, Thank You!
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 5 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel. That was fascinating. It was also well told and well illustrated.
@stephenyoung8069
@stephenyoung8069 3 жыл бұрын
Is this for real? You are hands down the best gun channel! The fact you watch The History Guy brings me great joy.
@maestrovso
@maestrovso 3 жыл бұрын
And unlike a lot of channels, Mr. History Guy never rely on irrelevant stock videos. He is like a great high school history teacher, whom's history telling in class even the worst and rowdiest students perk up their ears and listen.
@fatboyrowing
@fatboyrowing 4 жыл бұрын
Once again your research and story-telling kept me glued to the screen. Thank THG!
@mrfarnz
@mrfarnz 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I came across this. Thoroughly enjoyable, well presented. Glad to join the group. Thanks for your excellent work.
@ghms4540
@ghms4540 5 жыл бұрын
Please don't ever stop what your doing here! Superb and wonderful. Thank you.
@CpnCornDog
@CpnCornDog 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos!!!
@leonardcooper4257
@leonardcooper4257 3 жыл бұрын
i so enjoy your clips of history! it seems to fit you very well! looking forward to seeing more! THANK YOU.
@mjdoug44
@mjdoug44 4 жыл бұрын
I love these history stories and you deliver them so well! Thank you!
@akbuilder7626
@akbuilder7626 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing good ever happens at a husking bee. Its like a Chuck-E-Cheese in the ghetto.
@Ruby321123
@Ruby321123 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have enough info on either to offer an opinion, but am very interested in hearing your theory as to why this is, if you would be so very kind as to offer it.
@Ruby321123
@Ruby321123 4 жыл бұрын
@Bill Wade Yep. I live in a pair of sister-cities. The larger one (mine) is predominantly ghettoville, though the city government is always launching largely unsuccessful projects to make it look more like the other one, which is a preppy college town. The preppy college town is the one with the Chuck-E-Cheese.
@stormytooman1947
@stormytooman1947 4 жыл бұрын
People are asking you to explain your statement.
@bobbierobinson6269
@bobbierobinson6269 4 жыл бұрын
@@stormytooman1947 people have no sense of humor 🙄
@Nonsensical_Mecha
@Nonsensical_Mecha 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this one, and so quickly!
@numberslettersstuff
@numberslettersstuff 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your uploads. We learn so much thanks to you. Be blessed.
@guystewart8468
@guystewart8468 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting ! I am related to the Allen clan and still learning the history of the Stewarts , Allens , etc. Thanks for another great history lesson !
@haleyw600
@haleyw600 5 жыл бұрын
In the 80s my father was friends with a boy who's family owned the Allen House. They would use it to have house parties. They are renovating the house now. The house is too gorgeous and has a lot of history to be deteriorating.
@barbarahawks3831
@barbarahawks3831 3 жыл бұрын
As far as i know victor allen owns the Allens house, hes no boy not even 8n the 80s
@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078
@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078 5 жыл бұрын
"It don't say nothin' 'bout you comin' out." "Uh, Yeah. I don't see no moonshine. Have a good one Mr. Allen."
@andrewinbody4301
@andrewinbody4301 5 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@TheCramMichael
@TheCramMichael 5 жыл бұрын
Badass!
@justinpipes85
@justinpipes85 5 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine that officer yelling "wagons clear!" Or looking down at the warrant " well, fuck, I guess it sure dont say I'll be coming out... move along."
@elixtido1448
@elixtido1448 5 жыл бұрын
How about a .38 special to the sternum and placing a shitty revolver in the hood's hand??
@gerrymcardle9319
@gerrymcardle9319 4 жыл бұрын
This was the most amazing narration of a historical event I have come across. Thanks.
@Murph52
@Murph52 3 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating look at lost history. Thank you so much.
@AFloridaSon
@AFloridaSon 5 жыл бұрын
This is indeed a very important part of American History. This story should not be shoved in a box and forgotten. Thank you for the upload.
@groermaik
@groermaik 5 жыл бұрын
There are still areas in this country that a name can be all the reason someone doesn't get charged/punished for something anyone else would surely be prosecuted.
@TehOldGamer
@TehOldGamer 5 жыл бұрын
If that name is Clinton.
@groermaik
@groermaik 5 жыл бұрын
Different areas, different names. Someones kid will drive drunk and cause property damage, but not get charged. Someone could beat the sh!t out of someone, but if they had the right name, it would be noted as "boys will be boys."
@TehOldGamer
@TehOldGamer 5 жыл бұрын
@@Raging S Yeh, fuck due process. amirite?
@TehOldGamer
@TehOldGamer 5 жыл бұрын
@Raging S Except Juanita Broderick told multiple people *at the time* who corroborate her story to this day. So no comparison at all. Unable to understand how evidence and due process work much?
@brainfreeze44131
@brainfreeze44131 5 жыл бұрын
Problem is, he was not under investigation for a crime, but for a life time appointment to a job that he is unlikely to ever be fired from. The question is did he lie under oath when he testified before the senate? Was there an actual investigation into the allegations? I doubt he could withstand the same investigations that the Clinton's have had to endure.
@Hoosier_Boy
@Hoosier_Boy 5 жыл бұрын
This video helped me realize that we have powerful families like the Allen's in every county in the country.
@luckyb3859
@luckyb3859 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Smith goes to Washington, too.
@justanothername5199
@justanothername5199 3 жыл бұрын
@@m_pavia9456 what are you saying? It could be worse so forget about it? Why don't you stay on topic and discuss the problems IN the us instead of distracting? Who cares about the problems of people who lived 30 years ago 10000miles away? Why the whataboutery? Did your feelings get hurt?
@johnathanturner5242
@johnathanturner5242 3 жыл бұрын
Well my family isn't that powerful any more we branched of to become docters, healers, construction workers, automotive repairman, and even business men
@Section5_CdnIntelService
@Section5_CdnIntelService 3 жыл бұрын
@@m_pavia9456 Ultra Capitalists like Trump and the Koch Brothers are just as evil as any Communists.
@maestrovso
@maestrovso 3 жыл бұрын
There are still a lot of white settlers' descendents have attitude like the Allens. Most people don't know, Germans consist of the largest immigrant group of United States.
@123456wasp
@123456wasp 5 жыл бұрын
You ALWAYS have such good videos. Thank you for your hard work! 🍺😎👍
@davidcopperfield-notthemag397
@davidcopperfield-notthemag397 5 жыл бұрын
Feuding old time sociopaths. I have often wondered if sociopathy was a modern day tendency or when it became noticeable. I can see that in 1912 there were sociopaths roaming!
@katherineirving7189
@katherineirving7189 4 жыл бұрын
Your right. Sociopaths, Psychopaths, serial killers, serial rapists, etc can be traced back to the 9th.Century. However, they used words like madness, maniacal and possession. Though hard to find, there are manuscripts that speak of these hazards long before the words Psychiatric, etc came into existence.
@drizler
@drizler 4 жыл бұрын
Katherine Irving you forgot one other word, “Conquerer”.
@katherineirving7189
@katherineirving7189 4 жыл бұрын
@@drizler The definition of the word Conquerer is a double-edge sword. It can represent good or bad tendencies and mindset.
@katherineirving7189
@katherineirving7189 4 жыл бұрын
Forgot to add... Evil never conquers, it only silences.
@katherineirving7189
@katherineirving7189 4 жыл бұрын
@Henryk Gödel There have been a precious few good/honest Politicians over the centuries. Unfortunately, they are usually forced out of politics or, end up dead from some strange/coincidental murder. Sadly, the world needs politicians, it just sucks that 90% of them are crooked or become crooked.
@dillonsurratt
@dillonsurratt 5 жыл бұрын
I live in hillsville VA! Pretty dope we are getting noticed on KZfaq
@billdicarlo1340
@billdicarlo1340 3 жыл бұрын
I have always enjoyed your short videos and this one is one of your best! The photos were outstanding and the script so well written, I felt connected with the individuals they came back to life!
@unclejeffie7984
@unclejeffie7984 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are most excellent! You have an interesting and captivating style of presentation. I always look forward to your presentations!!
@retrophone5249
@retrophone5249 5 жыл бұрын
2 fun facts: First off this is still a contentious subject in Carrol County and descendants of the Allen family will still argue about what happened. Secondly, the detective agency employed by the state of Virginia were from the Baldwin-Felts Detective agency, the same agency that eight years later was involved in the Matewan Massacre. This incident led to the Battle of Blair Mountain, the largest labor uprising in the US.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 5 жыл бұрын
The Baldwin-Felts detective agency got their clocks rightfully cleaned in Matewan.
@klaus3794
@klaus3794 5 жыл бұрын
Sire de' Coucy. Do you have anyrhing to do with Enguerrand de Coucy, a great french knight in the 14th century? I wrote 2 books about him in German. Check it on AMAZON - Enguerrand VII de Coucy - der letzte Ritter. There are many pictures in each book.
@retrophone5249
@retrophone5249 5 жыл бұрын
Klaus S Had to read Tuchman’s “A Distant Mirror” for my senior seminar for my History Degree. Started using Sire de Coucy as a handle afterwards because it was easy to remember.
@TheTomBevis
@TheTomBevis 5 жыл бұрын
I'd bet that the Allen's are republicans, now.
@Pheonixco
@Pheonixco 5 жыл бұрын
The Matewan masscre would be a nice one to cover as well, The sheriff in that story, was a cousin of the branch of the feuding Hatfields
@Rikki0
@Rikki0 3 жыл бұрын
As a fanatic history buff, I love your channel. Your presentation is world class. Thank you for what you do.
@lesnodes5767
@lesnodes5767 4 жыл бұрын
You do a fantastic job with history sir. I watched Soapy and the 1912 massacre. I am now on a mission to watch all of your history pieces. Fantastic channel.
@chekaschmeka4283
@chekaschmeka4283 4 жыл бұрын
What's an amazing selection for today. Thank you.
@f.wallace8969
@f.wallace8969 4 жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious(and insane) that Floyd lured in his grieving brother, while on what he thought was his death bed, just to try and shoot him. The man was a complete nut case. Goes to show you, family loyalty should have its limits. Or else one psycho will drag everyone else down.
@vernonpennington8896
@vernonpennington8896 4 жыл бұрын
Clans doesn't always mean KKK.It a old word for many family members living close to onanother ! My Grandfather on the Irish side of my folks were Boot loggers as teens to make money in the Okla Great smoky mountains! Fast trucks and fast cars Double gass tanks fonny Trunk beds filled with the bottles and jars of Okie Moon shine!
@oldhardmanjohnson6585
@oldhardmanjohnson6585 3 жыл бұрын
It's a Southern thing Personal grievance and honor offended has priority
@noheader
@noheader 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldhardmanjohnson6585 I am not shocked how southern men react like petty little girls, how ironic the Allen family even bothered to go to church when they are a monument to amorality
@njpaddler
@njpaddler 2 жыл бұрын
Evidence of in-breeding ???
@willgetbettereventually124
@willgetbettereventually124 2 жыл бұрын
This applies to the times we are living in.
@Dsdcain
@Dsdcain 5 жыл бұрын
I'll give it another view. I really do appreciate the work you put into these videos. Thanks. *:)*
@eNodeTG
@eNodeTG 5 жыл бұрын
Why was it reuploaded? Share the secrets :)
@Dsdcain
@Dsdcain 5 жыл бұрын
Because he made a Titanic mistake. Wrong date of sinking.
@eNodeTG
@eNodeTG 5 жыл бұрын
What a tragic error! The History Guy, we implore you to throttle down your upload speeds so you can catch such obstacles in time. ;-)
@eNodeTG
@eNodeTG 5 жыл бұрын
Did the corn husk have the appearance of genitalia? Was that why it was taken down? Details, please. It's for a report.
@russwoodward8251
@russwoodward8251 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent research and story telling. Thanks again!
@captainamerica6525
@captainamerica6525 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thank you for this bit of history.
@stephenresler
@stephenresler 4 жыл бұрын
I have worked on an MA in History, now working on my Ph.D, in Physics. You are a tremendous teacher, and I do take mental notes. Some topics ara a bit esoteric for me, but your presentation is warm, friendly, and most importantly, informative. Well done.
@brucebenson2835
@brucebenson2835 5 жыл бұрын
"this piece of paper entitles you to go in that wagon, but it doesn't say you're coming out"..... DUDE!!!!! That line right there..... I would just leave that man alone....
@nikki162412
@nikki162412 5 жыл бұрын
It's best to listen to a man who's been shot 13 times and live to tell about it lol
@andrewjackson2011
@andrewjackson2011 5 жыл бұрын
There are bull shit complete bollocks stories like that everywhere.
@Jive33
@Jive33 5 жыл бұрын
That’s when you arrest him on the spot for threatening an officer.
@moonmunster
@moonmunster 5 жыл бұрын
I would have shot Allen dead, right there where he stood - next to his wagon.
@johnnyblaze4546
@johnnyblaze4546 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jive33 yeah just like that arrest a guy who been in war countless gun fights and been shot 13 times. I bet he would make your head into a canoe
@jehovahuponyou
@jehovahuponyou 4 жыл бұрын
THESE ARE SOME GREAT HISTORIC VIDEOS - KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK - BRAVO!
@ronreuwer5265
@ronreuwer5265 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it up i enjoy your little snippets
@alliecattlopez537
@alliecattlopez537 5 жыл бұрын
My God , where were you when I was in school, learning history?? lol. I love everything to do with history. I just now found your channel, & Love it. just subbed.
@katemaloney4296
@katemaloney4296 2 жыл бұрын
"The warrant says you can enter; it doesn't say anything about you leaving." Right or wrong, the man found the loophole.
@TREVASLARK
@TREVASLARK 2 жыл бұрын
But.......... a loophole punishable by death !
@liamelliott4756
@liamelliott4756 3 жыл бұрын
That was a very interesting piece of history. I hope you have lots more like this one. And I really like all the hats you have on tour wall. Those are very nice.
@stuartharper3968
@stuartharper3968 3 жыл бұрын
Another great from this world class historian. The scope of topics is amazing!!
@timrose5740
@timrose5740 3 жыл бұрын
"Doesn't say nothing about you coming out of it"...CLASSIC!!!
@timbentle
@timbentle 5 жыл бұрын
History Guy, bravo! Another excellent installment! My opinion is opposite of what I normally say: longer. While I normally say shorten your feature. In your case I would like to see some longer videos in addition to what you normally do. Keep doing these short ones but add a few longer ones. I hope you will consider this a critique...not a criticism. Thanks for your very good work!
@jamesandrew1117
@jamesandrew1117 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect length. Please keep up the good work! Informative and entertaining!
@lauriemarie6902
@lauriemarie6902 2 жыл бұрын
I just have to agree with your assessment of the perfect length. Philadelphia USA
@russellharkess1072
@russellharkess1072 4 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic, thank you for being so enthusiastic and interesting as you tell the story of forgotten history
@williamfaddis9412
@williamfaddis9412 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfarher was u.s. marshall in carroll county when this occured. My great uncle was a member of the juru. This account is rather accurate as I have always been told.
@n-dadark7269
@n-dadark7269 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from Carroll county. The courthouse and the Allen home we're on our field trip list in grade school. The Allen home is a tourist attraction and has several hidden rooms and dumbweighters. Great video thanks for helping the world see our little peice of history..
@joshuahasson9687
@joshuahasson9687 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent telling of this history. It would’ve been icing on the cake if you had mentioned that a great grand nephew of Floyd Allen is the legendary retired Virginia Tech football Coach Frank Beamer.
@muffassa6739
@muffassa6739 Жыл бұрын
I love watching your documentaries nothing like this is on TV. I've heard about this tragedy before. But your channel is the best.
@jamescutright919
@jamescutright919 2 жыл бұрын
Great job-please keep up the brilliant work! Thanks.
@jimcockburn3563
@jimcockburn3563 5 жыл бұрын
Floyd Allen the 20th centurys "Devil Anse"Hatfield.
@TheMenon49
@TheMenon49 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are just superb! Compliments and greetings from faraway India!
@shaneb.3982
@shaneb.3982 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing back my passion and love for history. Your what the history channel use to be. You have a new subscriber.
@craigkdillon
@craigkdillon 3 жыл бұрын
Like so many of your historical snippets, this, too, deserves a movie.
@WierdSpookyDude
@WierdSpookyDude 5 жыл бұрын
THG is my favorite KZfaq web site. I'm sure you do a lot of research to get accurate historical accounts, but sometimes things just get very murky, especially where war among blood clans is concerned. Keep up the Great Work!!! Looking forward to your next episode of 'The History Guy'.
@EDraus
@EDraus 3 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather got arrested for "Transporting and Abetting" in Carrol County. Everyone carried a .32. I have my Grandfathers and Grandmothers .32. My mother was born there she's 103 this year 2020.
@appalachianunderground8474
@appalachianunderground8474 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, God bless her
@johannasadventures3467
@johannasadventures3467 5 жыл бұрын
Well, after this interesting piece, you have earned yourself a new sub.. Keep up the great work brother.
@Joanla1954
@Joanla1954 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it!!! So glad to have found you!
@SeeItShowIt
@SeeItShowIt 5 жыл бұрын
Love this video. Jack Allen is my 2x great grandfather.
@torgeirbrandsnes1916
@torgeirbrandsnes1916 5 жыл бұрын
Holy cow! Great vlog as always! What was Al Capones motto, « A smile will sometimes get you what you want. A smile and a gun will always get what you want!» I am not sure it was like this word for word, but damn close anyway. Lol!
@brockgrace7470
@brockgrace7470 3 жыл бұрын
Great channel, great video,learn something new every time I watch.
@glasserallen
@glasserallen 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was awesome very very well done thanks for sharing!
@3363662902
@3363662902 4 жыл бұрын
*I live 27 mi. from Hillsville, VA and never knew this.*
@ThePauliebuck
@ThePauliebuck 3 жыл бұрын
To not know about this and live just 27 miles away you must of had your head up your rear your intire live, no one could possibly be that stunned
@3363662902
@3363662902 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePauliebuck I moved here in 2003. Also I'm a truck driver. I'm only home 2 days a week. When I'm home, I like to be home lol
@marbleman52
@marbleman52 5 жыл бұрын
My ancestors were among the very first permanent White settlers along the White River here in N. Central Arkansas in 1816. They had to clear land and build houses and battle thieves and survive floods and harsh Winters and hot, humid Summers, and establish a community. They became prominent judges & lawyers and sheriffs and a preacher or two, and successful business men and were very well respected by everyone...BUT...they never resorted to tactics of murder and intimidation to get their way. These Allen men sound like psychotics or psychopaths. And it's not that they were 'rugged individuals'..they were just deranged and cruel and mean people. They would have been quickly run off and maybe killed by way of self defense if they had tried that around my ancestors. This was definitely an interesting story, but they get NO respect or admiration from me.
@bluecollar58
@bluecollar58 5 жыл бұрын
marbleman52 , well said
@pulaski1
@pulaski1 5 жыл бұрын
@marbleman - with all due respect to you and your ancestors, I am highly sceptical that in the time before law enforcement in remote and rural areas was adequately resourced and fairly administered, dominant influence over communities by powerful men and their families wasn't the norm, at least outside of the very few major cities that existed at that time.
@marbleman52
@marbleman52 5 жыл бұрын
LtCol....I want to be sure I understand what you said...that in the remote & rural areas of our country's beginnings, that the dominant influence ( meaning laws & law enforcement..? ) WAS by the powerful families..is that correct? I will agree to that, in general terms. I would want to be careful, however, when saying "powerful' men and their families, that the understood implication of that term 'powerful' did not automatically refer to unscrupulous and dirty-dealing, violent men....such as the Allens. Yes, our Country's History certainly has plenty of examples of these kinds of men and their treacherous, greedy influences upon the local population, but I believe that there were also plenty of good and just and powerful men and families that really cared for their communities. I know how my ancestors behaved and how important they were to the local community and the economy...and it sure wasn't like the Allens. I appreciate your input, it makes for an enjoyable and civilized discussion...thanks.
@pulaski1
@pulaski1 5 жыл бұрын
I was trying (while trying to be brief) to suggest that men and families who had dominant influence over their communities in the era before more enlightened approaches to law enforcement, often, likely invariably, fell short by some degree, of our expectations today. Sometimes they would have fallen short by a little, sometimes by more, and sometimes by a LOT. Bear in mind that horrible cases of corrupt and unlawful influence over law enforcement and the judicial system in the US wasn't uncommon in many rural areas of the South as recently as the 1960's.
@richardputz3233
@richardputz3233 5 жыл бұрын
Your right ,52 a couple of degrees more and they would have been the James Game only with crapper attitudes.
@robertsymonds2366
@robertsymonds2366 5 жыл бұрын
All of your videos are fantastic sir.
@peterisaacs1344
@peterisaacs1344 2 жыл бұрын
I love your stories. You tell them very well
@kholt275
@kholt275 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this story. I think there are still some remnants of that clanishness here in rural NC and rural Va.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, do one on Rick Rescorla, his history definitely needs to be remembered, he's on the cover of the book "We were Soldiers once and young", he died in the South Tower on 9/11.
@artkoenig9434
@artkoenig9434 4 жыл бұрын
A truly fascinating story! Thank you!
@cyranobuckminster1970
@cyranobuckminster1970 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this channel! Bravo!
@brabham74
@brabham74 5 жыл бұрын
Another first rate history lesson. Thank you!
@FlexBeanbag
@FlexBeanbag 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! kzfaq.infoBmc9NFfhx74?feature=share
@jimhays2772
@jimhays2772 5 жыл бұрын
A 100 fine and an hour in jail for shooting somebody! Gosh gee ..the good ol days huh.
@biggiebaby3541
@biggiebaby3541 4 жыл бұрын
My grandaddy killed a man "who wronged him", he got 11/29 for manslaughter. He was a man not to be triffled with.... He was given a private room, the job as dispatcher and could come and go as he pleased. I even spent the night plenty of times and had the run of the jail. This was in '71 or 72 I was around 5 years old.... I even saw a deputy get shot by a prisoner... But, that's another story. Marion county Tennessee.
@michaelweeks9317
@michaelweeks9317 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Sir! Anything that ignites the love of history I applaud!
@crazioma6648
@crazioma6648 4 жыл бұрын
You are a wonderful teacher. Excellent diction, cadence and tonal change where appropriate. I hope The Great Courses company hires you to do similar nearly-forgotten pieces of history. I'd buy it right off. Heck you could do your own. Thanks for keeping me rivited to the screen. Few do.
@anthonygreene5560
@anthonygreene5560 5 жыл бұрын
History Guy, man you always got something good. Thank you bro. And that mustach on my man Floyd is epic
@matthew2h2o40
@matthew2h2o40 5 жыл бұрын
It started out with a kiss How did it end up like this (It was only a kiss)
@catsordogs_lh
@catsordogs_lh 4 жыл бұрын
But oh wait, he did miss.... And now we just have this.
@BrucesPhonograph
@BrucesPhonograph 3 жыл бұрын
This is the price of destiny
@foamer443
@foamer443 3 жыл бұрын
@@markdavis7397 Refrain (It was only a kiss)
@steventhorson4487
@steventhorson4487 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating story!! Thank you, history guy.
@MrTruckerf
@MrTruckerf 5 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this outrage. Very interesting; thank you, Mr. History!
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