That is life

And this might have been true considering it was just found out that it wasn’t stolen it was deleted

Couldn’t we just get the animators who worked on the original version and just make a better version that cuts out the nonsensical mess of the 2012 Version and add some of the scenes from the 2002 Version along with new footage to make a new version of Foodfight that’s actually good.

@@superfelipestudios8104 It wasn't deleted either. It turns out the whole theft story was made up by Larry and crewmembers were using those files even after the theft. In comparison, the only source for them being deleted was some random anon Reddit account.

Why can’t someone make a movie base on the history behind the movie.

That would be interesting. A movie like The Disaster Artist about the making of one of the worst movies of all times. They should do that with Foodfight

Even creeps from the dark alleyway look normal compared to the characters from Foodfight.

In order for that to work, the movie would’ve had to have had a history before production. In other words, it’s pretty much impossible.

"Redoing the whole thing" The 70 million dollars that went into the movie: why... Why can't i be useful??

Like What happened with George Lucas with the Star Wars prequels on an astronomical scale.

Yep. Sometimes an artist needs some restraint.

The whole project just seems like a cash grab as well, like they didn't care about the story. I was reading an old article and somebody was bragging about possible bidding wars for rights to merchandise, only money was on the brain.

@@TheRoomforImprovement if that's the case, Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams, and Rian Johnson are also the case because they made the sequel trilogy worse.

No kidding. How about the fact that the final project made you the laughing stock of the industry? Now it seems like everyone is picking on them, in spite of their Disney simulators and Lego specials actually being really enjoyable. I'm sticking by them with their Tetris movie they're working on, and am looking forward to it. I just hope (after this pandemic is over, at least) that it doesn't have to many production problems too.

Recent crewmember interviews have debunked that anything was stolen and that anything beyond a 8 minute showreel was ever made for the "original version". So we felt bad for nothing!

MrStickman1997 then the animation would look 🤢

hmmmm you are right!

Because Alien Space Bats do not obey the whims of the people.

Simple. It was worthless to every thief with this it WAS valuable for the time. Everyone knew the emoji movie would suck. no one at the time of this original release it would be viewed as the worst animated film of all time.

So apparently this movie was directed by a guy who never even directed a single movie in his life? Why am I not surprised?

+meganecraz And Lady X didn't have dead lifeless eyes.

I know, it has good squash and stretch and no motion capture.

+0deadx21 Agreed. Lady X actually looked attractive and sexy like she was intended to. (For a computer-animated character from the 2000s, anyway.)

+Katarina Kinumi I don't think she looked either of those. However, she did look good, what I mean by that is that she didn't look pretty but as a character model the animators did good on her. Like, she didn't have super lifeless eyes.

That's why I said for a computer-animated character from the 2000s. During that time, making a computer-animated character that looked that way was pretty difficult, so I think they did a good job with what they could manage. (and she was actually blinking!)

Quite a pity that it had ALOT of problems it suffered. If I was in-charge of the entire movie, which I am not in-charge of the movie, I would make sure to fix everything that happened during the film's production and make sure it becomes a very perfect, funny, enjoyable and wonderful animated CGI cartoony movie to watch! Just saying.

@Chase Studios I know

Same

so I wasn't the only one who though that

XD ik what you meant XD

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You know what, actually it is easier to do that. Just put the artwork in fridge for about 30 minutes and I am sure Kasanoff would be pleased.

"little bit" it is better than the 2012 version.

I wonder If that footage from the original cut is still around?

@@bagelq2028 They weren't stolen. Kasanoff lied and made that story up.

@@bagelq2028 This is what I surmise happened in September 2002. Larry Kasanoff has the money from investors ready to green light the almost finished product although Chester Cheetah is in the product as a cameo, there's other icons he wants to use so he goes to Dole, Frito Lay, Sun Maid e.t.c and asks for clearance to use the likenesses, the Companies then have their laywers order Threshold Entertainment email and mail them a draft of the script. The Lawyers read it to the companies, a response is sent back to Kasanoff "We Decline, This script and humor is not representative of family values and thus it is not in our interest to associate our brands with this type of film, we ask that you omit any planned models of our brand icons or we will take legal action" . Kasanoff is stymied, with clearance from the Food companies DENIED, and with the risk of legal hell if he ignores their warning, he has no choice but to shelve the project until further notice. He doesn't care about the script, he feels its fine. And so in December 2002, the project is postponed. The drives containing models and grocery icons are stored away in his own File cabinet. To bide time, he fabricates a whopper that they were stolen. June 2007, 5 years pass, Kasanoff is ready to start over again, but Threshold Entertainment doesn't want to pony up money for newer rendering software, so they order software from 2003. To make matters worse, everyone is behind schedule so there's no time to overlay the CG animation or finish the new models for that matter. March 2009, Food Fight is finally completed after 8 years of production hell. Kasanoff sends the shit looking product to Hollywood studios and Movie companies everywhere. But they THEY had standards. The prints are sent back to him with scathing rejection letters and TE, some even have responses like "Are you serious?", "Okay, go buy out McDonalds first and then we'll do it" "HELL no!". For 2 years, Kasanoff is left with nothing. Hollywood has rejected Food Fight. November 2011, for some reason a UK studio and investor agrees to distribute the film in the UK for a early Summer release. June 2012, Food Fight is released in the UK theaters, it bombs badly. September 2012, Food Fight finally gets a quiet Direct to DVD release in North America. It becomes one of the biggest DTV/DVD release commercial failures of all time.

@@bagelq2028 You're welcome!

I get the feeling that the custom texture packs for each model, shadow coding and possible some of the motion smooth and motion fill were the resources lost.

Imagine if they actually rebooted this movie and turned out good.

@@donvitocorleone2098 that wouldn't sound bad

I can't help but think about how fun this movie would be if it was remade. The concept is good.

Thanks for telling me

+Balbys23 It's a throwback to the old Looney Tunes cartoons where at night the consumer products come to life. Terrible animation but it must have been a good sales pitch.

Balbys23 Me too.

Christopher Lloyd takes literally any movie given to him, no matter its potential, so I think he's just not picky.

Dez Keiz so did Tim curry

@@vergilmaurice5883 he's not the Third Reich Brand X guy. It's just a really good Tim Curry impersonator.

At least he had a good role in the Back to the Future trilogy

+Kate McSpadden It at least would have looked better.

+GameAndWatcher96 Final Fantasy The Spirits Within has amazing photorealistic animation, but it was a huge fail.

And Don’t forget about ReBoot, even though the animation didn’t look that great by today’s standards, at least it had a compelling premise, likable characters, good humor, and compelling villains as well

@@nickytembo4112 That was animated by the guys who were supposed to do the “Sly Cooper” movie.

@@spaceboyctstudios2934 I know but I’m talking about how not to judge a book by it’s cover

Maybe, though my theory was that it was another person or people working on the movie who was fed up with his attitude.

+MysteryMii215 +Billy Barnett or maybe someone who worked on it, stole the hard drives and turned it into Wreck-It Ralph. I know, because the plot is similar to Foodfight, where the place is closed at night and comes to life

Oscar95451 The concept for Wreck It Ralph came about in the 80's.

+Billy Barnett yep, I know. a guy worked on Threshold stole the hard drive and move to Disney

Oscar95451 Stop telling us Talltales.

Sounds more like a nightmare!

I wish I could've seen that.

Was the film in the right hands? Done by an actual down-to-earth person?

Cyberbrickmaster1986 in hell!

That could've happened, if only it was in the hands of a competent director.

+jmantime Well, at least he looks less poop in the 2002 version

+imantime I agree but the original looks like whatever the guy that pooped him out ate was way different from the final product

roberto landeros ate nutella instead of taco bell

Mmm

What's worse, Poop Squirrel/Weasel from Foodfight! Or the poop spider from the Mia games?

I would prefer the 2002 version of Foodfight. At least its better than how it ended-up in the 2012 version.

2002

Why would someone steal it though? Sabotage or not the story was still the same, I don’t get it. God that animation looks so much better

Now since alternate cuts of films are successions I guess if 2002 foodfight was leaked it would be the next who framed roger rabbit

@@masonwhite4262 Sadly, it wouldn’t, because even if the 2002 animation still looked better, the movie would still suffer from terrible writing, no consistency, disgusting sex jokes, awful food puns, unlikable characters, and a story that’s just all over the place.

That sounds plausible.

Pizza cancer

@@superhandsminiatures1673 I don't blame him. I would go through the same thing.

and cool cat

That sounds like a brilliant idea!

I've been working on a more adult novel under the same premise of Foodfight.

yeah it would be great

***** hmm that would be interesting

I think they should've stuck with the Looney Tunes-style squash & stretch overall.

And what commercial mascots moves like a hyper realistic character anyway, other than Mr. Clean I guess.

Two words. Jim Carrey

Wouldn’t ImageMovers cancelled “Roger Rabbit” sequel do the same schitck with combining motion capture with cartoon-y animation.

Cheshire cat OMG That True 🤣 🤣

I like your comment.

Wah Tek Lim Thank you.

From what I've read in the comments, I heard they said that Larry added in too much innuendos which explains the delays. They even said Larry was too overconfident in which he decided to direct and produce the film, probably to show how good he is despite having no animation experience before. He and the animators were speaking in two different languages and kept saying things like make it more awesome.

Kido the Koala wow.... I didn't think it was possible to make Foodfight a almost emotionally invested story, but you did it

They should've handed the project to you!

It does sounds better, but what about the animation and the way the ikes come to life when the store is closed? Also their should really rename the market's name

Through in a better animation style, likable versions of the other characters, and a better use of the official icons, and more consistent world building and you'll get a waaaaay better film.

That would be 100x greater than the 2012 film

+mr_snow2003 0-0

UNACCEPTABBLEEEEE!!!!!

+TheMarioFanatic258 🍋

+Taco Bella l-/ adventure time reference!

That being James Cameron's production company, Lightstorm Entertainment.

Me, a true Foodfighter

Me too

Who knows, Let's just hope we find the original files of the animation.

Yeah, I just hope the story was better back then. Chester Cheetah was in it (and does more than make bad bald and fart jokes), so maybe there were some things left out of the final product (or maybe the company behind Cheetos got impatient and called it quits.b

@Kyke Morello I read that there was a scene where Mr.Clean actually spoke, but it was cut.

Or better improve upon the Idea and story like make how the characters come to life more specific and rewrite basically the whole story to make it more coherent and compelling, hell make it a bit like Shrek where it is self aware with it’s own idea which can give it’s sense of humour a medda, witty and unique style to make it funnier. Like the post credit scenes can make fun of the fact that the characters in the better movie have seen the horrible version and the main character will have a vivid nightmare of his supermarket become the worst movie ever made. I can imagine this literally being more funnier than the entirety of this film, as for the animation. I would redesign everyone and experiment with the medium of animation by having different characters have different animation and art styles as all supermarket icons are drawn or illustrated differently. I would do all of this if I have my own animation studio or a lot of money...:(

Basically remake the whole movie to be a classic! Seriously I have a bit of a soft spot for this movie’s CONCEPT mind you... It really has potential to make itself a animation or movie classic!! I hope someday there will be a reboot of foodfight, a version with great animation, great compelling characters, great humour and most importantly an interestingly unique story! Seriously this Low-key deserved to be rebooted and improved upon! :)

+Catty Mintgum lol XD

I don't think you mean bad opposite day.

I don't like this comment! XD

+LarsEMou99 ok. It's your opinion. :)

What makes you think the 2002 Foodfight had a different script? Did anyone even say that online? Is the 2002 Foodfight tailed different? Did you find any leaks?

True, that's why Chester Cheetah wasn't in the final film

+Wah Tek Lim many others too like lucky charms. I just can't help but to think "how much different would this movie have been if they hadn't pulled out, or lost the files?" Because the 2012 one definetly has some obvious budget issues and feels like pieces are missing.

Was Chester Cheetah actually crucial to the plot? The brand mascots that were still in the film didn't do anything, so it's a little hard for me to believe.

Batter Sempai If the movie released as planned, I think that it would’ve gone by as another one of the bunch Cgi animated films of the early 2000’s. (And maybe be remembered fondly due to nostalgia).

Yes, you can! :D

Good luck with that.

+Avonlea Durtschi ok

How about you direct the reboot of this movie. Everyone can fund it and people can pitch in their ideas to make this 1000x better

Make a fanfic. We need to read it.

Young earl izdat u

Little Orange Devil Guy yes

+xSonicSeedrian :3

+xSonicSeedrian Ciel!!

Sw0rd Penc1l sup.

Sunshine was going to had a tail and a belt.

@@mariajimenafigueroa8311 I'm aware, yes. Honestly those two details alone made the design slightly better.

I think Daredevil Dan looked cute in the original version as well, how the hell did they go from cute to ugly?

@@billybarnett9518 Cute? How did he look cute? In the 2002 trailer, I think he looks creepier than Pennywise. No offense. I respect your opinion. I’m just confused.

+Dylan May Yes, I need a time machine

+Oscar95451 can I come to? 😋

+A Corner Of The Internet Yes, you can

Yay! ^^

+A Corner Of The Internet I'm sorry your Delorian crashed into a Police box then into a phone booth and the universe exploded…..sorry about that.

Hey Ik you I just watch your top 9 Pink Panther intro video. Btw nice video

+Hewylewis I don't know.........

+Hewylewis Honestly, I think a parody would be much better.

+Hewylewis I would, I'd simply make it better. But I can't because I'm working on a story of memes. But I'm making my story look specific and reasonable. Even better than Foodfight. Would you like to see the novel? Here ya go. But keep in mind it's still ongoing.Trust me bro, I know what I'm doing with this novel. www.wattpad.com/story/37790294-meme-world

I've thought of the same thing, but honestly they'd have to change the script. Take away the food puns, innuendos and have a decent character development, and THEN remake it. But it'd be hard to convince studios to remake it because of its past failure

Would you mean 20% cooler?

+Armin Alert (pico faustus) Yep, we should find the thief

Oscar95451 that would be fun

+Harambe True.

which you Harambe are not able to anymore

difference is ppl love me more than the film

Harambe well that is true

And the villainess actually had movable eyes. That was a total shock to me!

Movie Nerds Pretty much. Didn't America go down the toilet because the president was a wacko?

+Sailor Italy Definetley Where the dead go to die. Food fight was terrible, but WTDGTD...... It was made in a place where Light has never shone.

+Sailor Italy I think Foodfight is the worst animated movie ever; if only because of it's $45 million+ budget. It represents so much wrong with today's animation. It had a blatantly incestuous relationship with sponsors, showed a complete lack of imagination in plot and characters, hired famous actors for character voices to be more marketable, had a ridiculously over-inflated budget, and was made by an incompetent egomaniac. It's at once a vanity project and an exploitation film - except without any exploitative elements people may enjoy. Though it's good for laughs in a nihilistic kind of way. You get to enjoy all the wasted time, energy, and money that was employed to attempt (and fail at) a quick cash-grab.

+Sailor Italy Technically Foodfight is because WTDGTD was made to shock people.

segundo vargas Comdey and Horror I suppose then.

+Sailor Italy Well... As bad as Foodfight is, at least it doesn't have child porn, so I say WTDGTD.

Yeah it sounds like something really shady happened with the hard drive story. How do you possibly lose ALL the hard drives to an entire movie in one incident? Even back then?

It was. Kasanoff made up the story about the Hard Drives being stolen.

What about sonic 06

@@isaacarmendariz2538 and Spyro Enter the Dragonfly?

@@nickytembo4112 and that too

Would you hire Ilion Animation Studios to animate the remake? Because they animated “Planet 51”, and that looks amazing. Also, it’s worth mentioning that FoodFight! is a fetish film, from sexual innuendos to the cat lady.

@@spaceboyctstudios2934 I would hire Blue Sky if they were still open

@@ScratJitZu Why, exactly? No offense.

@@spaceboyctstudios2934 Didn’t Ilion Animation also did Wonder Park?

@@pennysanchez7656 Yes.

Maybe Peter Gadner, because he stole the equipment for Freaky Flickers, so maybe, he must've committed a crime before he forced Freaky Flickers to be cancelled.

If the claim of theft wasn't a bullshit excuse. It's fishy enough that they didn't have any off-site backups for such an expensive investment.

Well I mean, Larry does seem like an idiot, just saying.

It was me, I did it lol

- Zippy - probably Seth Rogen to make sausage party

His making a sequal

The movie was only 60 percent complete anyway I think.

I thought they pulled their support afterwards cause Lawrence wrote in sex jokes like peanut envy for M&Ms.

Yes that is why they pulled their funding. Those things were happening before the drives were supposedly stolen. So from the start the truth of the matter is Lawrence had no clue what he was doing and was stubbornly doing things that were torpedoing his chances of making his idea work at all.

@@Isolder74 This is what I surmise happened in September 2002. Larry Kasanoff has the money from investors ready to green light the almost finished product although Chester Cheetah is in the product as a cameo, there's other icons he wants to use so he goes to Dole, Frito Lay, Sun Maid e.t.c and asks for clearance to use the likenesses, the Companies then have their laywers order Threshold Entertainment email and mail them a draft of the script. The Lawyers read it to the companies, a response is sent back to Kasanoff "We Decline, This script and humor is not representative of family values and thus it is not in our interest to associate our brands with this type of film, we ask that you omit any planned models of our brand icons or we will take legal action" . Kasanoff is stymied, with clearance from the Food companies DENIED, and with the risk of legal hell if he ignores their warning, he has no choice but to shelve the project until further notice. He doesn't care about the script, he feels its fine. And so in December 2002, the project is postponed. The drives containing models and grocery icons are stored away in his own File cabinet. To bide time, he fabricates a whopper that they were stolen. June 2007, 5 years pass, Kasanoff is ready to start over again, but Threshold Entertainment doesn't want to pony up money for newer rendering software, so they order software from 2003. To make matters worse, everyone is behind schedule so there's no time to overlay the CG animation or finish the new models for that matter. March 2009, Food Fight is finally completed after 8 years of production hell. Kasanoff sends the shit looking product to Hollywood studios and Movie companies everywhere. But they THEY had standards. The prints are sent back to him with scathing rejection letters and TE, some even have responses like "Are you serious?", "Okay, go buy out McDonalds first and then we'll do it" "HELL no!". For 2 years, Kasanoff is left with nothing. Hollywood has rejected Food Fight. November 2011, for some reason a UK studio and investor agrees to distribute the film in the UK for a early Summer release. June 2012, Food Fight is released in the UK theaters, it bombs badly. September 2012, Food Fight finally gets a quiet Direct to DVD release in North America. It becomes one of the biggest DTV/DVD release commercial failures of all time.

I wish that would happen. Especially if it had Vivziepop’s artstyle.

That would be awesome!

segundo vargas He certainly put too much faith in the director's good sense to simply abandon the project after that.

Yeah but he was determined because of money, he didn't care about the story, he fantasized about companies having bidding wars over merchandise.

segundo vargas He wanted credit

segundo vargas I doubt it's more than enough, he seems like a prick to me.

segundo vargas Okay.

The original footage was never stolen

Actually, that’s pretty much what happened. The only difference to your version is that it was intentional.

@@rogersstinson4019 thanks for letting me know, do you have any source?

Captain Crunch is love, Captain Crunch is life

Technically, they can't prove it was actually stolen. It's fishy enough that they didn;t have any off-site backups for such an expensive investment.

Drink Bleach Everyday Because Larry is a bad Producer and Director

Fluffy Ninja Did Lawrence Kasanoff ever learn from his mistakes? ::checks IMDB:: Ahahaha....Executive producer for Mortal Kombat Annihilation, Mortal Kombat: Conquest, & Mortal Kombat: Defenders of the Realm.....Huehuehue. (*≧艸≦) Go watch Phelous & the Movies to see how that turned out.

Conquest was a lolcow though. Now that I think about it, "The Journey Begins" was really the worst MK thing. You seen it?

The whole idea of Foodfight was stupid in the first place

Yeah, nothing can beat Toy Story, it will always be the best.