The history of the KOH-I-NOOR DIAMOND | Why does India want the Koh-i-Noor back? Famous royal jewels

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Жыл бұрын

It’s arguably the MOST FAMOUS JEWEL in the world, but it’s also supposedly been CURSED and STOLEN from its true owners. The Koh-i-noor (also called the Kohinoor or the Koh-i-nur diamond) has had a fascinating and contentious existence and one which we’ll explore in this royal jewels documentary from History Calling as we sift fact from fiction.
Originally from India, it supposedly curses all men who wear it and so the diamond is now only worn by women. It is currently part of the British Crown Jewels and kept in the Tower of London within the Queen Consort’s Crown, but the story of how the Koh-i-noor (which means Mountain of Light) came to Britain in 1850 in order to be presented to Queen Victoria is one of the great controversies around the stone, as is the issue of who owns the Koh-i-noor diamond today. As part of the colonisation of India by the British, the then 11 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh was supposedly made to hand over the jewel to James Broun-Ramsay, Lord Dalhousie, who was then the Governor General of India. Though he did confirm a few years later that he wished for Victoria to have it, the circumstances of its original removal from India and whether he was even empowered to give away something which arguably belonged to the state, were and are deeply fraught debates. Indeed if you’ve ever wondered, ‘Why does India want the Koh-i-Noor back’ this complicated history is the reason.
Once in England, the stone was displayed in the Crystal Palace during the Great Exhibition of 1851 and worn as jewellery by Queen Victoria, before eventually being incorporated into the coronation crowns of Queen Alexandra, Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother. It is expected to appear during the coronation of King Charles III and Queen Camilla. So sit back, relax and enjoy hearing about the history of perhaps the most famous diamond in the world, the Koh-i-noor/Koh-i-nur/Kohinoor.
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@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Who do you think should own the Koh-i-noor diamond now? Let me know below. You can also find me on Patreon at www.patreon.com/historycalling and on my Amazon storefront at www.amazon.com/shop/historycalling

@mimsicle1 Жыл бұрын

The country that has had possession of it for over 100 years.

@barbaralindhjem2488 Жыл бұрын

It's bad luck.....send it back to India

@jillkearns525 Жыл бұрын

@@mimsicle1 What about the people that owned it for 100s years before and was forced to “gift” as the British took custody a child heir to the throne…

@tudorrosey76 Жыл бұрын

Great Britain should keep it! It belongs to them! Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 ⛄️🎅🏻🧑🏻‍🎄

@alicerivierre Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas History Calling! 🎄🎅

@ballenboy Ай бұрын

The supreme court of India a few years ago has ruled that the Diamond was not illegally taken, making it not a crime and not seen as illegitimately aquired.

@rosyface_ Жыл бұрын

A gift given under duress is not a gift. The diamond should be returned.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

That's definitely a fair point.

@dfuher968 Жыл бұрын

But was it a gift or a ransom? And is a ransom considered a legitimate transfer of ownership? Coz if its not, then u have to go back further in the ownership chain. Im not saying, just keep the diamond and screw every1 else. But its a very complicated proposition to find who, if any, of the claimant would be the rightful owner. It would require probably years of historical research, and even if u were able to construct a complete ownership chain, u would then have to consider each transfer of ownership for legitimacy. And all of that should still start with actually having it analyzed to establish, where it was mined in the first place. It would be a huge mistake to just say, that India says, its there, ok, give it back. Just consider, if the police has arrested a burglar and found some stolen jewelry. They then have to trace the rightful owner. 3 ppl all claim a certain necklace. Do u just give the necklace to the richest person? The 1 shouting the loudest? No, u have to figure out, who is the rightful owner. And thats very hard for a diamond, where u dont even know, where its originally from, and which has changed hands under murky circumstances more than once. That doesnt mean, u shouldnt try. The police in my parable wouldnt just keep the necklace and give up finding the rightful owner. But it may be extremely difficult to trace the rightful owner of the diamond back through the centuries, and ultimately it may be the politically least damaging thing to keep it and display it, but not use it, as no matter who was given the diamond, the other claimants would be furious. Again, they should definitely try to establish, where is the diamonds origin, where was it mined, and established the chain of custody and each claim to ownership.

@di3486 Жыл бұрын

No 😂

@peterzimmerman1114 Жыл бұрын

Every transfer up to then seems to have been some kind of ransom or under duress. It was just a continuation of tradition it would seem.

@pskrishnamurthy5321 11 ай бұрын

Especially when the donor is a minor. Any contract with a minor is void ab initio

@bettyir4302 Жыл бұрын

Ack, it is nothing but a rock. Never understood why everyone goes all gaga over diamonds and gold. Ridiculous that lives are lost over such.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

I agree actually. They only have worth because we give it to them. They certainly aren't worth people's lives.

@ABC1701A Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the two court cases in India where the COURTS decided that the diamond legitimately belonged to the UK, allegedly it did't originally belong to the Maharajah either as they nicked it in the first place. There is a great video covering this stone.

@guillaumedupont7565 17 күн бұрын

Dont make me laugh !! England obtained this diamond illegally during colonial war thanks to odious blackmail due to its rapacity and keeping it is as dishonest as if Germany had kept the works of art stolen during the last war and if the diamond was stolen before that does not change the fact that the English have always plundered half of the planet and they themselves are the biggest thieves in the world and sad shopkeepers..The English bought back Louis'XIV ' Blue Diamond stolen and recut it to cover their tracks...It is now the Hope diamond.. End of story

@2010Tigresa Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much HC for another great video. I wish you (the viewers too) a Happy Merry Christmas from Uruguay.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Patricia and Merry Christmas to you too 🎅

@csh43166 Жыл бұрын

I find the cut it had before Prince Albert had it recut very interesting. Even though it may not have maximized it's potential, I find that cut intriguing and beautiful in it's own right. And who doesn't love a good "cursed jewel" story?? I think it's hard to know at this point who should own the diamond. I think there are many things that should be returned to their country of origin (Nefertiti's bust is always the first that comes to mind), but I'm not sure this is necessarily one of them. Regardless of whether it should or should not possess it, I don't see the British Monarchy giving it up. Another great story!!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, I'd love to be able to see the original as well. I'd also love to know what happened to the bits which were cut off.

@donna25871 Жыл бұрын

Of course England need to return it to India (as well as everything else that was ‘gifted’ to them). And that they haven’t really shows how out of touch the British Royal Family is.

@a.t.c.3862 Жыл бұрын

@@donna25871 Nothing should be "returned" unless EVERYONE returns EVERYTHING.

@jimjam6598 Жыл бұрын

@@a.t.c.3862 exactly. Which is unrealistic

@SkinnerNoah Жыл бұрын

@@a.t.c.3862 I can't speak for the British, but I'm not parting with my relics

@stephencarrillo5905 Жыл бұрын

👏👏Love the mix of legend and letters, HC. Fascinating as always. I found it very interesting that some journalists questioned the legality of bringing the diamond to England even in the days when colonialism was prevalent and accepted by most. You're finishing up the year strong; can't wait for next week's offering. Be well, HC.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen. Yes, it is interesting that there were eyebrows raised about the stone even in the 19th century. 🔹

@jackwatsonepic626 10 ай бұрын

I found out about this diamond when I worked in an Indian restaurant and they were telling me the story so it shows you that the Indian people haven't forgot . 🇬🇧

@annmoore6678 Жыл бұрын

Happy Holidays to everyone who enjoyed this richly entertaining post! We are currently under ice and snow, so what better way to pass the time than watching History Calling?

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ann. Stay safe and warm and happy holidays to you too.

@lorrainecasey749 Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas to you too Ann😘

@cindiloowhoo1166 Жыл бұрын

Have not various Indian factions fought one another for millennia, with the victors taking the spoils of war?

@LMD2915 Жыл бұрын

I love your videos so much! I have long been a fan of history, in particular, English history (and I have NO IDEA why, but there it is). Regarding the jewel. It's a freaking rock. Why people fight over rocks, even pretty ones, I will never know. It's part of what is wrong with the human race in general, to fight over such stupid things, when there are much more important things to worry about. Still, I found this video intensely interesting, as I do all your videos, and I love your voice and accent. Thank you so much for these!

@di3486 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Let the damn rock where it is and focus on the real problems of the people!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much and yes, I agree, there are many much more important things in the world. Diamonds only have such a high value because we say they do (as opposed to things like water and food which have an intrinsic value in keeping us alive).

@ddmaharaj5359 Жыл бұрын

If someone takes your car, you will want it back even though it's only a bit of metal plus other. It serves you; the same with the diamond from India.

@SUJAMUK 9 ай бұрын

If the kohinoor is so unimportant why doesn't Britain return it to india.

@amymahers2957 Жыл бұрын

I hope you have a good Christmas and the New Year a continuing success for you. All of your videos are well thought out and interesting. As for the Diamond, I can’t see that it’s possession increased the “good” of anyone who owned it. It’s a rock, a pretty one, but a rock. 🎄🥰

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Amy. I hope you have a great 2023 too.

@shanemcknight6472 Жыл бұрын

An intersting, insightful and well researched video with the perfect about of detail.

@michelleoverall5937 Жыл бұрын

Love watching your stories… totally intriguing and interesting ❤ thank you

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Michelle. I aim to please 😀

@jamesmackey2120 Жыл бұрын

Hi HC, thanks for bringing us another interesting video. I think that the diamond should have remained uncut and left in its natural beauty. Rather than have been cut into to meeting the latest fashion. Also as to who should own it now, I wouldn’t want to open that Pandora’s box. Have a Merry Christmas and I look forward to more learning in the new year.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks James. Yes, I think the rebutting was a big mistake too.

@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын

I love Fridays because it’s the magic combo: you post and History’s Forgotten People also does. Merry Christmas!!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks AElfgifu (I can't get my phone to type the first two letters of your username correctly - sorry about that 😯).

@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Haha no problem :) we blame the phones :-)

@lfgifu296 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling My actual name is Amélia, by the way, Ig that’s more possible to type hehe

@reidx512 Жыл бұрын

I just LOVE, LOVE your work, thank you for helping me continue to learn. Blessings and Merry Christmas.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thank you and you're very welcome. I hope you had a lovely Christmas and have a wonderful 2023.

@nathanfisher1826 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, very good! So much history

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thank you too! 😁

@ns-wz1mx Жыл бұрын

merry christmas HC! a year of amazing content down 🙌🏻 since it is -3 degrees F here, i’ll be spending my evening watching this and trying not to freeze 🤣 you know i love a jewel video!!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Stay safe and warm. I'm literally just watching a news report about all the extreme weather in North America at the moment.

@ns-wz1mx Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling it’s hitting us really hard here in ohio!! i hope it lets up soon 😭

@tonyk1584 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff as always, but.... the jokes on you all. I bought this stone and a rare Rolex watch from a guy on the street in London some five years ago.😀 Got a great deal too!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

😅

@Aparajitha... Жыл бұрын

I am not really sure if the kohinoor should be returned to any of the 3 countries , considering there is not much care for historical artefacts or history for that matter ( until some war breaks in between or political unrest occurs ) , but displaying it as a possession of the country does leave a sour feeling ( especially since Dalhousie was involved ) . As for matching the English aesthetics, it does make sense that Prince Albert chose to do that since it all comes down to displaying it to a common man who would have not known what to appreciate in something that doesn't fit his definition of a diamond . Could've been handled with care though

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, someone else suggested displaying it in a museum rather than the crown jewels, which might be a better option.

@Magund1 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCallingBut museums can’t be trusted to safeguard any of their items. It would be stolen for sure. Still, England shouldn’t ‘own’ it.

@ZackRekeSkjell 8 ай бұрын

What an interesting piece of history! I unfortunately don’t see any way the stone can be returned to any one land or region without resulting in mayor conflicts and possibly wars being fought over it. I am conflicted when it comes to it being right for it to be kept by the UK, but I do deem it to at this point to be the best option.

@Moebian73 Жыл бұрын

Very exquisite video of a very exquisite piece of beauty. Well done HC. Have a Merry Christmas over there! :)

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Sean. I ended up rather sick with a vomiting bug on Christmas night actually, but at least I had the whole day before that. Have a happy new year :-)

@Moebian73 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling My family gave me a bloody cold when I arrived home from visiting them, THEN my heater started to croak yesterday so it's 13 degrees (Celcius because I know we yanks only use the F word lol) in my house. lol

@wendybell422 Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas and a lovely new year and many new videos xx

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Wendy. I hope you have a great 2023 too. :-)

@michaelturknett5017 Жыл бұрын

I see a History Calling upload I CLICK!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael 😁

@twiley3530 10 ай бұрын

You have a beautiful voice and do a great job. Thank you

@s1nb4d59 Жыл бұрын

Hi from new zealand 8),you have such a lovely voice to listen to and your pronunciation is superb,looking forward to more vlogs.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much and greetings from Northern Ireland :-)

@RetroAiUnleashed 4 ай бұрын

Thank you, bravo well done! 😊🕊🙏🏻

@david_walker_esq Жыл бұрын

I don't think any one country should own the Koh-i-noor. The diamond is the gifted property of and surrendered in treaty to the Crown. King Charles III is the head of the Commonwealth and heir to the Crown jewels. The diamond is a part of our collective Commonwealth history, not just England or the United Kingdom and certainly not just India, considering its relationship to Pakistan. I think it is unfortunate that the diamond was re-cut under the direction of Prince Albert. Maintaining its Indian style, regardless of its lack of luster would have at least shown greater reverence to the diamond's origin and India's place within the Commonwealth of Nations.

@fakeaccount3627 Жыл бұрын

It was literally stolen from a 10 year old 😂😂

@laurae.1298 Жыл бұрын

If another country packed up and moved Stonehenge or [insert native to British Isles object here], I would be shocked if there wasn't agitation for its return. The Stone of Scone has only been returned to Scotland since 1996...

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Excellent point. You're right. People would go crazy if Stonehenge or the like was taken.

@dfuher968 Жыл бұрын

But as I have commented in other threads, its different. There would be zero doubt as to the origins and rightful owners of Stonehenge, just like the "Elgin" Marbles and other such treasures, that were stolen from their known place of origin. Its much more complicated to establish rightful ownership to minor items, that have gone through multiple owners/"owners" through centuries, coz u both have to trace the chain of custody back to the origins of the item, and then u have to analyze each change of custody for whether or not it was a legitimate change of ownership. Many smaller items, especially jewels, ornaments, paintings and such have stolen more than once or used as ransom or bribery or such. So who along the chain were rightful owners, who were not? Thats very hard to establish. The origins of Stonehenge.... not so much.

@fabulouschild2005 Жыл бұрын

Laura, all I can imagine is some guy just picking up the stones and running off with them 😂

@SkinnerNoah Жыл бұрын

I can imagine twenty indian guys carrying a stone pillar on their shoulders while running from bicycle police 😂

@samright4661 Жыл бұрын

Good luck moving those Rocks!

@Bus_Driver_Jay Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas, my dear Dr Ms History. I hope your Christmas is as amazing as you are. ❤️ How funny. Twice this week I’ve heard about this stone. We were discussing it at work. I’m half Indian, so my work place were asking my opinion on it. I couldn’t answer then, and I don’t think I could now. It’s such a difficult line to tread. On one hand it’s a cultural icon, but on the other it’s absence has done nothing bad, in as far as that the country hasn’t sunk into the sea because the big shiny rock isn’t there. The world is scattered with different countries items that are far from home. Should we return our cars, as the chips are from another land? Where is the line to be drawn?

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jay and Merry Christmas to you too. ⛇ 🎄 You also make some very interesting points about the stone. I'm not sure what the best answer is either.

@Bus_Driver_Jay Жыл бұрын

I fear the stone question will never be answered. There are too many claimants. It’s the same as if the imperial heritage seal of china were to be found. Who gets it? China, or Taiwan?

@elaineharris2315 Жыл бұрын

As the previous owner was Duleep Singh surely his family/heirs have the strongest claim to it.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

I don't think he has any living descendants, otherwise yes, I think they'd have a solid claim.

@be.A.b Жыл бұрын

Since it has so much historic relevance, any private claim would be rebuffed by the government of origin.

@michellebruce5092 Жыл бұрын

Hi, Awesome live video I enjoyed it can't wait to see more soon. Can you do a video about Michel de Nostradamus he was a historical person in the 16th century. Have a great day greetings from Canada 😀

@stephencarrillo5905 Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas, HC!!! Hope there's something good waiting for you under the tree!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

THANKS STEPHEN. My main gift was actually a bookcase, so it won't fit under the tree, though it is made from one if that counts 😀 Have a wonderful Christmas too 🎅 🎄

@hollypedrin3276 Жыл бұрын

Have a wonderful very Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 weekend! Wonderful episode 👏 ❤️ Thank you.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Holly. I've had over a week off work and am just getting back to it now. :-)

@savagedarksider Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas. When my Yorkie dog saw the snow; He became worried about you. He thought something had happened to you. He was gonna to go and find you. Your his second favorite aunt.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you. No snow here in Northern Ireland fortunately. ❄

@tauna8941 Жыл бұрын

Interesting

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😀

@annfisher3316 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for such an informative video, as this has been discussed in the news lately, l am glad to know it's history. 💎

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Yes, the news story was one of the reasons I did the video at this time (though it was already on my to-do list).

@AnnaAnna-uc2ff Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@annmoore6678 Жыл бұрын

I don't really know who should possess this diamond now. However, I think one of the very weakest arguments offered was David Cameron's. He was virtually admitting how many treasures in the British museum were either taken through the demonstration of superior power, or given or sold to a British entity by someone who had a dubious claim to them! [In 1979, I saw a sign next to the so-called Elgin Marbles arguing that they were being better taken care of in the British Museum than they would be in Athens, which was preposterous even then.] There are superb museums all over the world where tourists can go to see cultural treasures curated by experts, if they have the money to travel and like to see things with their own eyes. Moreover, given the high quality of today's visual media, millions of people can get an excellent view of the world's most fabulous treasures through public or private online resources, books or films, regardless of where they are housed. Of course, this particular gem is not only kept on display but used in British coronations, but that alone would not be a good argument for keeping it in the UK. What is needed is for all the countries involved to come to an agreement about the most appropriate and safe place for the diamond to be kept, and that doesn't appear likely to happen anytime soon.

@NinjaGrrrl7734 Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Antiquities belong in their place of origin.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree that would be preferable but like you I doubt any such agreement will ever be reached. You're correct too that a lot of the stuff in the British Museum (and other museums) shouldn't really be there. I wonder if there will be a grand reckoning about that some day...

@cindiloowhoo1166 Жыл бұрын

Humans do not “own” any piece of earth nor what is extracted from it. We are but mere stewards ~ the line can die out, pestilences, wars, greed… Then, some time around three/score and ten, the human soul journeys on, leaving behind such “treasures” for the next generations to fret, fuss, fight and fry… On turns The Wheel…

@suzettecalleja3122 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how many diamonds where cut from the cutting of the stone that no one knows about?

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Same here. Even a fragment of the original Koh-i-noor could be worth a small fortune.

@therexhausens4842 6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@HistoryCalling 6 ай бұрын

THANK YOU SO MUCH for your very generous contribution to the channel Therexhausens and apologies for my slow reply - I'm only just back from my Christmas break. I hope you've had a lovely holiday too.

@lisaharner3720 Жыл бұрын

It is sad the diamond was recut. And there is too much controversy over who is the rightful owner. If I understand it, there are no living heirs of the maharaja and it is unlikely the British will give it to the modern Indian state. You know what they say about possession being 9/10th of the law…Despite the controversy, it is likely Camilla will wear it. Thank you for another intriguing video! Merry Christmas!

@woodenbeast9337 Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas and thanks for great stories. Did I mention that great accent. Luv from Baltimore Maryland

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. Merry Christmas to you too. 🎄

@BalconyFish Жыл бұрын

What an informative video! As an aside, in hearing the commentary from a Victorian observer about how the gem shouldn't have been cut and judgements about the display really prove that even back then some randos gonna tell the world they know better.

@shanemcknight6472 Жыл бұрын

Do you think it could be possible that the quoted spectator from the Great Exhibition may have written this after the diamond was cut and has skewed a account because the account seems to describe the diamond before and after it was cut??

@cking91182 Жыл бұрын

It DEFINITELY needs to go back to India, it's a shame the U.K has not given it back, it just shows that the U.K has not changed as much as they think they have. It's pretty SAD!!!

@CJ-rx5fi Жыл бұрын

Lots of countries lose things when treaties are signed. If they were all given back as if the treaty never existed, more of Europe would be speaking German, and more of Central Asia would be speaking Russian.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, there is certainly an argument that this is just the way of the world and that everyone gets invaded at some point.

@tiffanyi5645 Жыл бұрын

This sounds like the most colonizing conversation I’ve ever read. That’s crazy. England invaded India, had the nerve to call the resulting wars “unprovoked” and then took the diamond from an actual child! How is this messy or confusing? That’s illegal terrorism by today’s standards. It doesn’t belong to the UK. Someone somewhere in India should have it and India should decide that.

@katjack2780 Жыл бұрын

I think it should be returned to India. You have to think of India as it was at the time. Pakistan did not exist until 1947. So technically, most of the stone's existence was in the historical India. But then, I also think that the Elgin Marbles, more properly the Parthenon Sculptures, should be returned to Greece. A happy Yule to all!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, I think India's claim is stronger than Pakistan's in this instance. I think the Parthenon Sculptures should go back too, but we'll have to wait and see what happens I guess.

@beastieber5028 Жыл бұрын

Good evening to history calling

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Hi Bea. Happy holidays 🙂

@vernon2542 Жыл бұрын

Love this kind of story great job. I think India should get the diamond back

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Vernon. Yes they do have a strong case for it

@beastieber5028 Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas 🎄

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Same to you! 🎅

@sdutta8 Жыл бұрын

Apparently, on being asked the price of the Kohinoor, Maharaja Ranjit Singh had said. “paanch jooti”, which translates literally to “five slaps with a shoe” - a figure of speech common in India for “humiliating application of force”. His prediction was correct. Whether he continues to be correct in the future remains to seen.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

I didn't come across that quote, but I wish I had now. It would have been great to include in the video.

@Ancient_Pollyanna Жыл бұрын

The diamond seems to have moved around a lot - on a pendant, then on a bracelet, then in a crown. Could Camilla have it removed from the Queen Consort crown and replaced by a stone (not even necessarily a diamond - a ruby would be awesome) of her choice? Oh, and I think it belongs in England.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Definitely and I wouldn't be surprised if she does have it swapped out. It hasn't even been a part of the Crown Jewels for all that long in the grand scheme of things.

@cindiloowhoo1166 Жыл бұрын

The Diamond is part of the Crown Jewels and I would think not subject to the whims of an individual, temporal, monarch…

@quokkapirquish6825 Жыл бұрын

The East India Company threatened the 10 year old Maharaja with the death of his mother in exchange for the diamond? It was obtained by crime. It does not belong to England

@warblerab2955 Жыл бұрын

@@cindiloowhoo1166 "I would think not subject to the whims of an individual, temporal, monarch…" You mean you think the Monarch can't even have it removed from the Queen Consort Crown? What about the fact that it has moved around before as said above? It was on pendant, a bracelet, then a crown. In any case, it was removed from the Queen Consort' Crown. Camilla did not wear the diamond.

@bevinboulder5039 Жыл бұрын

Regarding the 19th century cut of the diamond, surely an oval cut or even a pear shape would have been possible without sacrificing such a high percentage of the stone. But maybe they weren't doing those shapes yet. Also given the confused history of possession of the stone, and we don't actually know where it was mined, I think it should stay in the UK, but Camilla definitely shouldn't wear it. Given her _penchant_ for the seemingly largest tiaras available, she probably will. We're finally above zero Fahrenheit (-18 C) here after recording the lowest temp (-24F) in Denver in over 30 years overnight Wed. into Thurs.Happy Holidays to all!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

It'll certainly be interesting to see if she wears it. Stay safe and warm over there ⛇

@bevinboulder5039 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Luckily a warming trend starts tomorrow with temps on Christmas up to a balmy 10 c

@cindiloowhoo1166 Жыл бұрын

A Queen should wear a glue and glitter headband?

@bethliebman8169 Жыл бұрын

Such interesting research and storytelling. As for the 19th century recutting of the Koh-I-Noor, I would chalk this up to British arrogance and racism.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was incredibly stupid to recut it and I'd like to know what happened to the bits removed.

@simon112 Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas HC, you and your Diamonds haha, the diamond should not have been cut it has lost its natural beauty, as for ownership several countries have a claim on it, so it has to stay where it is until a solution is found but that won't be anytime soon. Thank you as always for our journey through the mists of time with you. 🎅🎄😊

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Simon and Merry Christmas to you also. Yes, I think the recut was a big mistake too.

@simon112 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Thanks HC, have a great time. 🎄🎅😊

@lorrainecasey749 Жыл бұрын

This colonial thing annoys me. England was not colonised by Germany,the Romans, the vikings, the French Normans because they wanted to plunder her tin….. no we were conquered and it has happened throughout history all over the world 😡 this is not at you by the way-good video 😊

@MeMe-nw9mq Жыл бұрын

@Lorraine Casey….as has every other country on this planet. The people that hold these countries today are the ones that won the last war and were strong enough to hold it from being taken again. There’s not a country or race of people that haven’t been captor and slave and then traded places. It’s been the way of the world for millennia.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, it is very true that conquests have happened throughout history and might well continue to happen. There's the obvious attempt happening in Europe right now for instance.

@aliencat11 Жыл бұрын

I would have left it alone. The historic cut would have been wonderful to see.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

I know. I'd love to see it as well.

@ethanweeter2732 Жыл бұрын

Make you wonder what happened to the rest? Did they use the rest after it was cut on the crown or did they put in a bunch of brooches.

@shawnacarter4032 Жыл бұрын

Have you even seen it in person? I have not. If you can could you please take some photos of it thank you

@claire2088 Жыл бұрын

seems like everyone who saw it before and after the cut was dissapointed- I wonder what it looked like and also, very suspicious that the offcuts dissapeared 😂 it's bakers priveledge to eat the offcuts of a cake, but I don't think jewellers privilege is 40% of the biggest diamond in the world to take home also, who knoews should have it now- the history was messy enouogh that no one's really got a clear claim but doesn't really feel like it belongs to the british monarchy (I say this as a brit), also, as much as it might be wildly expensive- it's also kinda pointless, like it jsut looks pretty, yes it's big but it's not really doing anything

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, I would really like to know what happened to the offcuts too. They'd be worth a pretty penny as well.

@williambabbitt1204 Жыл бұрын

I have enjoyed your channel every since I accidentally found it. However I do have a question with regard to the diamond that you spoke of in this video. Is this diamond connected at all with the peacock throne which must have by your information started in India and then ended up in Iran or pressure. Am I to understand that and that's a peacock strolling of Iran actually began in India? Also you mentioned there was a curse and connected with this particular diamond, is this the same type of curse that was connected with the Hope diamond which now rests at last report in the Smithsonian institute in Washington DC? I have not seen this diamond that you spoke of in the crown jewels of Edward the confessor's crown has it been removed because they are afraid of the curse or because it is no longer fashionable to put such a crown acquired in such a way on someone's head?

@elisabethhopson5639 Жыл бұрын

The Kohinoor has never been on St Edwards Crown. It has never been on the Imperial State crown either. It has always been on the Queen Consorts crown. 3 completely different crowns used for different purposes by different members of the Royal family.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks William. This video discusses the diamond's connection with the Peacock Throne and if you want to check out my video on the Hope Diamond, you can hear all about its supposed curse there. Enjoy 🙂

@ulyssesbinoya1134 Жыл бұрын

The crown with koohinoor stone was deeply burried in the Philippines till now . Cause King Philip pay it as a dorry to the queen of jolo zulo Philippines .

@ritzee13 Жыл бұрын

I think we have to remember that this is just a carbon rock and belongs to the Earth. I think most of the people fighting over it would be pacified if the British Royals just acknowledged their mistakes in colonising other countries and taking their possessions and put the dimond in a museum.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree that it is just a rock. There are much more important things in the world.

@sukanyaghosh7646 Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more

@soumyajit3517 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling yeah absolutely right there's much more important thing than kohinoor so why britishers are not give it back? They will say that current generation are not responsible for that dark past on the other hand they will glorify and celebrates there past by holding that stolen things. Get a life brits apart from being hypocrates .

@savagedarksider Жыл бұрын

I have three questions. 1. Do you think Henry 6th would have been more successful as A constitutional monarch ? 2. How was the relationship between queen Elizabeth I 's England and Japan ? 3. Do you think if Henry V had lived longer; would England have kept hold of France ?

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

I'm typing on my phone so I hope you don't mind me keeping this very brief: 1) Yes, if he'd lived 400 years later. 2) Don't know I'm afraid. 3) Yes, probably.

@savagedarksider Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling As long you answered my questions- I'm satisfied.

@sarahwatts7152 Жыл бұрын

I say give it back to the Indians. They're the ones who had it last - this isn't the best solution, but it is the most impartial. The English shouldn't keep it, as "finders keepers" has always seemed like a flimsy excuse for keeping other people's things

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if that happens some day actually. We'll have to wait and see.

@sophiatealdo9680 Жыл бұрын

The Diamond has No Owner it belongs to the Earth & She Gaia wants it to go to All the people of the World - for the Good of All that is - and so it is - Blessings.

@monikahasch7441 Жыл бұрын

If we should give back all items which were ever taken (by force or bought) it's ridiculous..where to begin, where to end?...and to whom because most of them changed owners several times in the history...🤔

@ItsSVO Жыл бұрын

This only applies to England apparently

@kirkkaanoranssi2359 6 ай бұрын

Did Cameron inadvertently admit that the great part of the contents of the British Museum were obtained under fishy circumstances?

@roopsai8159 Жыл бұрын

The diamond belongs to Goddess Bhadrakali. Wherever the diamond will be that Kingdom that Kingdom will be destroyed within decades. So better return it to Bhadrakali temple in Telangana, India.

@ballenboy Ай бұрын

No I think the curse has been neutralized by being in Europe, I think it should stay there.

@KairaSol 5 ай бұрын

I wish they hadn't cut it and not only that, but it shouldn't have been taken from india in the first place

@anthonycalbillo9376 Жыл бұрын

It's 4 degrees Fahrenheit, or about 15 degrees Celsius in my home city. A very cold day. Hopefully it's much nicer and WARMER elsewhere. Another great video!!!

@2010Tigresa Жыл бұрын

It's summer here. Nice weather in Uruguay, South America.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

15 degrees would be very mild here in Northern Ireland for this time of year 🙂 We'll not expect balmy temperatures like that until April at least 😅

@anthonycalbillo9376 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling wow, this is totally foreign to me, even though I've lived in Missouri now for almost two years. I guess I'm too used to California Weather.

@di3486 Жыл бұрын

Lol 4 degrees Fahrenheit is not 15 degrees celsius. You mean -15. And that’s not as bad but I am a Montanan😂

@anthonycalbillo9376 Жыл бұрын

@@di3486 Oops, well, I'm an American and I'm not familiar with Celsius....

@heatherbowlan1961 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for this great piece of history, God Bless you and your family.

@debrawilson3791 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting sorry! It was clearly not worth the losses after the cut!

@suzettecalleja3122 Жыл бұрын

Many museums would be empty not just the British museum.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Very true.

@jackwatsonepic626 10 ай бұрын

If the British government give all the artefacts back to the countries of the original origin which are displayed in the museum they would only be stuffed foxes and hedgehogs left .

@lynnadames9526 Жыл бұрын

I'm fascinated by the possibility that it could have originally been the Shamantaka jewel that Jambuvan and Krsna had a great battle over. I have known about this story for decades because I follow all the past times of Krsna. I have really enjoyed this video of the jewels history.

@coolcat3452 Жыл бұрын

By the time the whole world is done with the “royals”, taking back all their stolen diamonds & artefacts; they’ll be left penniless!!!😂😂😂😂

@the_null_hypothesis 11 ай бұрын

Given the past of this diamond in how it has moved from one dynasty to other, and if the legends about the diamond hild any weight, it could be taken away from England. The modern day force would not be colonial or military, but geopolitical and strategic duress.

@janetginger8571 Жыл бұрын

even the sight of the crown makes me sick

@cindybryant1584 Жыл бұрын

I believe Solomon had the answer. Tell each country that claims it that it will be cut so that each country gets a piece of it. Then wait for the reaction.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, then we could see who loves it the most (if my memory of that Biblical tale is correct).

@wendyleonenko8962 6 ай бұрын

No it should not be returned. It rightly belongs to the British crown.

@paulwillard9687 Жыл бұрын

Before the Brits were in India and during the beginning women who had lost their husbands would be sacrificed on a fire by moguls & holy men . So the Empire was not all bad and the Spanish and Dutch traded in more slaves as did Arab states .

@shaunpaul8068 Жыл бұрын

It makes no sense that the this diamond is not worn yet its 2 accenting diamonds (now earings) were continued to be worn for decades and also the lahore pendant? Its very picky choosy

@sandralantau7395 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for another interesting historical gem-stone video! I'm just disappointed that you completely glossed over the fact that the British East India Company was key in expanding and spreading the opium trade. It's wealth came in large part through pushing opium on new populations, e.g. China.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. It's not that I was trying to gloss over anything, it's just that this is already (by my standards) a very long video and it was about the diamond, rather than the history of the East India Company. That would be a completely different video and require lots of extra research using different sources. Perhaps I'll look at it in the future though.

@sandralantau7395 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Thanks for your prompt reply. I appreciate it! I must admit to being personally invested in the topic. I’m ethnically Chinese and it really upsets me that most British people (including educated ones) believe that the “evil Chinese” pushed opium onto the rest of the world when, in fact, Britain used its military to force Chinese authorities to permit opium to be sold in China. I recognise that a video about the K-i-N diamond is not the place to go into the subject. But since you brought up the British East India Company and also (which I do appreciate!) tangentially the topic of colonialism, it would have been great to see some slight recognition of the fact that British wealth was also built on pushing opium. Great video on a touchy subject. I really do appreciate that you did mention a couple of the controversial topics 💖

@annecronin8339 Жыл бұрын

Yes. The East India Company started the Opium Wars to destabilize Old Imperial China because the Chinese Emperor would not be coaxed or cajoled to have commerce with England where England had the affontery to pretty much demand that China take the short end of any deal in trade. Chinese Emperor declined and had them shown out for their rude hubris superiority on his turf.

@od1452 Жыл бұрын

The Blue Diamonds ,Tavernier and really any large Diamond are submerged in history, myth, intrigue ,betrayal ,destruction and controversy that I find fascinating . . they are pretty .. But When I reflect on all of it , .... it's a lot of bother for a Rock . I am all for returning stolen objects to their original owners . But I worry that some of these pieces of history and art will disappear .... especially if all our eggs are in one basket. Thanks for another trip through history.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, these things so seem to attract trouble and wacky stories don't they? I agree actually that they are at the end of the day, just pretty carbon. There are many much more important things in the world.

@ot8210 Жыл бұрын

Why does it seem the most important and coolest items always wind up in the hands of British and English kings and queens? It seems most are Ill gotten or mysteriously wind up in their hands. Strange.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

I think it helps that they've outlasted so many other monarchies and been able to purchase some of their items. Some good things are elsewhere though, like the Hope Diamond in the Met.

@ot8210 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling I’ll agree that’s very true. Thank you for your response.

@markmh835 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling -- With all due respect, the Hope Diamond was gifted to and is on display at the Smithsonian Institute's Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C., not the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City.

@johnpeter4184 Жыл бұрын

Well done HC. This bit of history held my interest for the full 30 minutes. England should hold it dear and it should be used in corinations. Merry Christmas!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks John and Merry Christmas to you too 🎅

@kilowhiskeyalpha6078 Жыл бұрын

It would appear to me that the object of the East India Company and the empire was to divest the world of its wealth.

@user-np5ke3wr2w 29 күн бұрын

If India wants it back let them get another Diamond the same size and trade!

@annecronin8339 Жыл бұрын

It would be in better taste if Camilla did not have the Koh-I-Nor in the Queen Consort's crown. She likes blue. Maybe switch it out for a sapphire or aquamarine. Even a grown man made one with better atomic structure quality for flawlessness/brilliance.

@namtran841 Жыл бұрын

Return it to India

@nicolasgruman635 Жыл бұрын

On another note where is Harry flashman!?! Lol!

@joyceneville9214 Жыл бұрын

Of the three claimants, India has the best chance of keeping it safe. When the joyous day comes that there is peace in Afghanistan and Pakistan both should share with India the display of the diamond. A museum full of stolen treasures is nothing to be proud of!

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, it would indeed be lovely if those two countries had peace (in fact world peace amongst humans would be great, but one step at a time!)

@ItsSVO Жыл бұрын

India has the best chance of keeping it safe? Erm, no way it would be stolen in no time I’m sorry to say. The safest place it’s ever been in it’s history is in England where it currently is.

@nicolasgruman635 Жыл бұрын

Makes sense to me. What did all those poor troops die for? Maybe a good weirguild.

@gagansekhon1806 7 ай бұрын

It was not a gift everyone knows that they stole it like other precious things from india punjab. It should be returned.

@ahlamnoori77 Жыл бұрын

I know persian its mean mountain of light

@maryellencook9528 Жыл бұрын

Greetings from Texas, HC. May you have a Blessed Christmas holiday. I agree with you that the diamond should have been left untouched, but we both know what the arrogance of European Imperialism was all about.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mary. Have a lovely Christmas too. 🎄 Yes, I think the recutting was crazy too.

@tudorrosey76 Жыл бұрын

I think that Prince Albert should have left it alone and the stone would be bigger. I think that by cutting it, it made it loose too much girth. Who would care about brilliance, I would rather have had it bigger. I also think that the diamond should stay in GB. I’ve heard that they wouldn’t even have it on display in India but kept away from anyone to see. That is what they do with anything worth any money.

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree that Albert shouldn't have had it cut (though I don't think he intended it to be so much reduced in size). He really dropped the ball there.

@sarahkoch7694 Жыл бұрын

I am undecided about who should have possession of the Koh-I-Noor diamond, though I do believe it should be someone other than the British royal family. Thank you for a most welcome Christmas present; this episode is a great gift. Best wishes to you and yours for the holidays and the coming new year!

@willgibbons1733 Жыл бұрын

Why, specifically, not the British royal family? I mean it was giving to Britain for helping the maharaja fight the 'sikh wars'.

@di3486 Жыл бұрын

Can’t be safer than with the English

@HistoryCalling Жыл бұрын

Thanks Sarah. I hope you had a good Christmas too.