Somehow Marine did it right with less cost.

@@aizseeker3622 Because the Marines were smart and weren't concern in flashy uniforms like the Army and Navy

Except for your grandma her couch 😝

Digital grey? It’s mint leaf green.

UCP= Useless Camouflage Pattern. Blends in everywhere- gray rocks, gray plants, gray sand, gray grass, gray sky.

I still have my OPFOR uniform from all those years ago.

I was stationed at ft Irwin from 1982to 1985 in the OPFOR and we wore the old OD ,s

Opfor still uses BDUS or any other uniform

I've got both tricolor and Multicam Arid patterned stuff. I just can't get the idea of my head that Multicam Arid is a logical continuation of tricolor. Who agrees?

I'm in the Air Force, and basic training field Instructors (known as cadre) still use this uniform for OPFOR purposes.

Then imagine scrapping all of that time, money, and research for a shitty grey digicam.

Depending on region it may actually be beneficial. In Ramadi we did a lot of operating in farmlands of Sofia so the green was better than any tan.

@@SonOfTheDawn515 thank you for your service. Yeah it's pretty green there. Guess you have to be prepared for arid and humid conditions

Meh, sometimes camo is better when it’s broken up like that

Not like they were fighting in the Sahara where there’s no plant life at all, a mixture of woodland and desert camo works really well, especially in the brush, idea of camo is to break up the outline of the body not so much to conceal a mix of patterns and colors would work very well than one consistent color gradient

The first ACU's sucked, I was there in 2005! Did you guys have the problem of the crotch ripping out from just climbing onto a humvee, or bending over to pick something up?

@@hellomjb Ours did in 2006. We cut up tops and made patches for the crotches. Allegedly they went back to double stitching in 2007/2008.

@@SonOfTheDawn515 Good thinking, we used fishing line to fix a couple pair. I was back again in 06/07 and they still sucked! Haha

They were like pajamas. Had the same crotch problem. I couldn't believe how fast they just fell apart. And a terrible pattern too. What a waste of money and lives.

SOCIALIST DISTANCING ucp was the result of corruption and greed, that pattern didn’t even go through the full battery of testing

It beats the living snot out of UCP.

@@budmeister Almost anything beats the snot out of UCP. I though the Navy Blueberries were bad, then I saw UCP.

@@budmeister I forgot about couches. Yes, it is strangely, surprisingly good at hiding on couches. And some rocks.

@@budmeister Everything does.

Some of us wear it as hunting cammo in the fall in open fields

I do

Yes!

I've lost count the amount of times I've asked for him to do a DPM video!

@@Liam1991 Don't forget jungle and desert dpm variants

I do

It's not as horrible as people make it out to be. It works good out in the mountains.

@@rc59191 Does it work universally like it was intended to? Is it even decent in the desert where it was deployed and people's lives depended on it? Was it a failed project that cost millions to impliment, failed and cost more to replace? Sounds pretty horrible to me.

@@FoxtrotFleet camouflage is intended to breakup your outline to make you more difficult to see at a distance. So in that sense yes it did do its job I've also seen it work. Theres even videos you can watch on here explaining it.

@@rc59191 No shit. I guess that's why they're keeping it.

@@rc59191 No, it doesn't. Didn't work at Fort Carson in the mountains, it didn't work in Iraq (except at night) and it didn't work in Germany.

Google pink panther Land Rover

Also used as USAAF desert paint.

Because everybody in the US military had moved on to new uniforms. In the case of the Marines, we adopted MARPAT which came in both woodland and desert patterns. The Army came out with UCP which (in theory) eliminated the need for a dedicated desert camouflage uniform since it was supposed to work anywhere. The Air Force adopted the ABU which utilized the same colors as the Army's UCP but in a Tiger Stripe pattern so it was also (theoretically) supposed to work anywhere. The Navy in turn developed 3 new patterns, one of which was a desert pattern similar to desert MARPAT but in slightly different colors and orientated vertically instead of horizontally.

@@Riceball01 I know, I still think it was a poor decision.

@@Riceball01 Multicam Arid and A-TACS AU are the ultimate desert color patterns

@@LoneWolf051 Ok, and what does that have to do with my comment. I never said that any of the patterns I mentioned were the ultimate desert/arid patterns, just what the US military moved on to after 3 color desert.

It was mostly Big Army fuckery and politics. There was an actual need to improve the cut of the BDU/DCU, because, although the BDU cut was good, soldiers still had complaints. On top of that USMC adopted MARPAT, which got all the branches rushing to have their own "unique" camo. What finally ended up being the deciding factor for UCP was that it looked destinctive, which is what Big Army wanted, and it performed "well enough" to be pushed out as the final product. There's a report somewhere that cites the UCP's superior "night time/night vison" performance as being a deciding factor in selecting. It also performed the best overall when you average its score from each test environment. What this actually meant was that it performed average or below average in most test enviroments, while other effective camos performed well in a couple enviroments, but being terrible in others. From my understanding there were a few camos, that performed better as "universal" camo, such as multicam or A-TACS I think, but the Army didn't select those because of licensing issues and "poor camo night vision performance." AKA we didn't like them because they cost too much and they don't look unique compared to MARPAT. It was all really dumb, honestly one of the biggest military acquisitions scandals since the roll out of the M 16, which the Army also botched due to Big Army incompetence and fuckery. Congress had a whole investigation into this where they basically lambasted all the branches except USMC for wasting taxpayer money on useless and redundant camos. Now they all have to standardize on OCP or MARPAT I think.

I Agree. I just bought a DCU jacket with special forces airborne patches to honor the closest thing to a father I ever had. I don't think he ever wore this pattern but I fell in love with the DCU as soon as I saw it. It doesn't get cooler than that color scheme. I also live in AZ so who knows....it might come in handy some day

Almost all the DCUs I find in surplus stores are Seabee uniforms.

@@olliegoria When I much more into collecting back in 2012-2015, all I ever found was USN and USAF surplus. I suspect those Seabee uniforms are the last large-scale batches to hit the market.

I think 3 color is better than multicam too

The only camo that works better than three color was the Marpat. I can see why the marines switched because the desert marpat just works so much better than the tri color. But I have no idea why all the other branches didnt just stick to tri color or base a new design off the desert marpat

@@troopergio That's the funny thing... UCP was literally the army taking MARPAT and trying to make one pattern apply everywhere, which obviously didn't work.

@@olliegoria yeah UCP is dumb I think we can all agree on that

It seemed to work all right in Ramadi on the IA. Definitely better than the UCP!

That seemed to be how UCP worked too. Terrible if relatively clean, but great once they've been sunbleached and dirtied. I have some mag pouches that barely look like the new UCP ones I have, but closer to a light tan.

I agree. I did my basic and AIT at Ft Sill, Ok. My Battery, Charlie 2, was one of the 1st Batteries to be issued the then new Woodland BDU's. Only thing that wasn't Woodland was our field jackets. They were OD. We had a hodge podge of tee-shirts. Green, brown and white were authorized at the time. I had 3 brown and 3 white. I've got a picture of me by my barricks wearing my woodlands and a white tee-shirt.

Not to mention they look nice

Yes, they extensively studied soil samples from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia to get the colors right.

Your comment implies that UCP worked here.

@@tl5606it did, in the very niche Rocky Mountain cliff faces with granite showing. Lmao

You will only hear the same thing told everywhere like it's developed based on the French Lizard Camo but nobody tell exactly who modified them and when they became those patterns we know and how come one company registered its copyright on one version of Tigerstripes.

I don't know how "Fun" that is.

It's Kim Jong Fun. Fun fact is his thing.

You sure it's a ordinary M16A4 not a SAM-R?

came here to ask, wtf is that camo?

@@Tonka2714 garrison uniform pattern

This uniform and camo is by no way forgotten lmao

@@lil__boi3027 ; Weapons on Forgotten Weapons also aren't, I specifically meant the entire channel and not just this video. Expand your scope a bit please.

@@FirstDagger wigga

Well, maybe in forty years or so when everyone who wore them pass on.

Desert Marpat looks the best in my opinion its the only digital camo that the U.S. got right, same with it's woodland counterpart

That's why some people wondered why we didn't use Dessert DPM, but 3 color dessert. And rumor goes, that Dutch jungle is based on 3 color dessert, only different color scheme.

Capitalize God please and do not use God’s name in vain. 3rd commandment

When the Marines switched to the MCCUU (Marpat) you could have formations with old cammies and tan or black boots, new woodland MCCUU with tan or black boots, new desert MCCUU with tan or black boots... Of course only one pattern per Marine. It was great! And of course quickly reigned in, since too much fun was had.

I’ve heard it called “Titty Pink” from articles about painki NV aircraft for desert use most notably the B-24s of the Polesti raid

Rocking the old school tilley hats too