What's the alternative then Louis? A WINDOWS laptop? Please, just no. It's only recently that linux destops have grown to provide a decent alternative and even they lack the smooth integration to the backups and media sources. Apple is not just a hardware producer, it produces an ecosystem that works far better than the competition. When it works.

@@dingdong2103 Wish linux laptops become a decebt and fast option one day. I don't want a laptop that i would want to get rid of 3 years later bcs of not enough performance for me 💀

This video, 3.5m views speaks the truth and still doesn’t have enough views it should.

@@texrot9781 you must not be married yet stay safe young person

@@barryoverson4988 Thanks kind sir

and a little more broken

Apple fans: Shut up and take my money!

And every year you'll queue up 5 hours to buy new shit from us! ... so, why not?

And every year you'll buy it!

Because we are Apple and you will buy any shit we put on disply.

Mix in a little bit of 'courage' and you got a winner that will sell like hotcakes.

+ Ony stupid selfish egoist snob buy "less for more". All for public. The center of attention is cool for biznesmen or idiot.

Apple. Last decade's technology at next decade's prices.

Elfferich, "you're marketing skills" = "you are marketing skills"

I liked it, But then i removed the like. At this point you are at 666likes and i wanna leave it like this, so here is your like +1... Also i am getting a T-shirt with this on it.

Same age and same situation. ;)

I'm 32 and I won't own another crapple product .I had one iPhone 5 for a few years and I hated how limited it was in so many areas... especially the fixed storage...I hated it.

When the real issue is dust protection of the joycons

Ikr, what kind of a piece of shit controller breaks from regular use? Literally every controller I've ever had for any system, including other nintendo systems, lasts forever unless I drop them or lose them, I've used gamecube and xbox controllers so long that the rubber on the control sticks eroded away, but they still work! Meanwhile this Fisher-price trash joycon malfunctions within a few months. Ninty is really slipping, hopefully that class action lawsuit pays out soon

@@tongpoo8985 Fisher-price lmao. I think even Fisher-price products last longer

@@tongpoo8985 I got a lot of controllers. Some are even over 20 years old and they work like day 1. My Joycons on the other hand... They broke after a month of playing(I got bigger hands, the only controller that fits properly is the original duke controller for the OG Xbox)

Only an asshole gets emotionally attached to their purchases.

#Don’tthinkdiffrent,thinkbetter

#dontthinkdifferentthinkbetter

Think different? Think better or Think different? Just think!

Knowing big companies like Apple, they would probably send a cease and desist for using those words in their own slogan lol

"They don't expect people to buy Apple products even after all their problems that they have, do they?" Yes... yes they do...

Lmaoo

But the spilled Starbucks would increase the value!!

If someone uses Starbucks and Apple positively in the same sentence avoid them at all costs

I recently went to eBay in hopes of replacing my deceased 2011 MacBook Pro. They were selling it for just as much as it would cost to buy a 2019 MacBook Pro. Madness.

JOEmega64 Buy a PC man, so much better

Ur boss was just sucking his bosses dick. Don't take it personally. That's how it works in corporations. Its one big dick sucking fest

Basically liberals. “I hate Capitalism ! Support my small business though !” How do you hate he who gives you a job. If Apple didn’t exist Louis Rossman’s youtube career wouldn’t exist in the caliber that it’s in. Let’s be real. But just like it’s cool for a community to love Apple, this is a community where it’s cool to hate Apple. Ironically, they don’t understand that they’re on two different sides of the same obsessed coin.

@@patrickhenry1249 Why somebody would try to repair a product with no issues? That does not make sense :-D

@@KjvYaBoii you are a dickhead

big pp play

@@KjvYaBoii How fucking crazy obsessed are you that you took this to political and economic labels....capitalism vs yada yada yada. These are corporations, they manufacture goods and there is a predictable failure and defect rate of every part and a lifespan. These corporations, like Apple, mix and match their part selection to make their products disposable and short lived, many reaching obsolescence within a year of release. And Apple...Apple is special with this because they try to take COMMON technology, make it attractive to you so you buy it, even though it's more proprietary than a car(you technically don't even own the entire device, you're a licensee), so no one can touch them, like they're some kind of medical device manufacturer. They aren't selling you a product, they're selling you a business relationship with them, where so long as you have their product, you are stuck with them for maintenance and upkeep. And what better way to repeatedly pressure resale than to get you when you're vulnerable and without the device you crave connection to. This is what this man is showing you and folks get on here, though in small numbers, and try to talk about Apple being his paycheck...He's a electrical engineer idiots-he doesn't need a corporation, he has skills not tied to any single manufacturer. He's in insider trying to tell you you're sheep and MOST the things he's seen from Genius Bar and Geek Squad are freebie fixes so don't trust them. This isn't how free trade and capitalism are supposed to coexist, so why you would bring this to politics is beyond me. Apple is a prime example how Capitalism is NOT suppose to work in the US. Monopolies are supposed to be banned, huge corporations are not supposed to be allowed to control entire markets.

Siri wont laugth.

Oops your warranty has run out. Please buy an extension for $950

I'm sorry. Apple does not repair 'vintage' hardware. You'll have to buy a new house to put that light in.

@ Alan Rizkallah What certified Apple Technician ??? Are they really able to identify real malfunctioning issues, or are just there to swap components until it works again??? In that case, anyone can do that....Oh and don't even start me over the "Genius-es" at the Apple stores....I would just loooove to catch one and strangle him a little with one power cord from a macbook 2013 model, the MagSafe :-)))

Jokes aside, _Apple_ actually *is* a textbook totalitarian cult. Deliberately built this way using a cult-building manual. It's same as Scientology, probably inspired by it.

Your G’s are designed to control or kill you.

😂but 4g coming out that recent is completely useless since like 5G when it came out, their was barely any towers resulting in spotty signal

Guess what, nobodg gives a damn, it's tech - let people buy what they want not what you think is better. Sad how you believe tech companies define the who people are .

​@@DanielTheMathematicianHow old are you? Do you know what a scam is? Do you understand the video or the comment?

​@@lexluthor3811 Can't 4G enabled devices also use 3G, and 5G enabled devices use 3/4G too? Adding compatibility with promising nascent technologies to your devices is futureproofing, and it's great. I wouldn't judge someone who bought a new phone that wasn't compatible, but I'm gonna squint a little at a company who charge _a lot_ of money to their customers for regular upgrades not using the latest technology.

They don't. Apple just keeps shaming them into it. It's like, "Heeey, you don't want everyone at Whole Foods to think you aren't keeping up with them ... do you? It would be a shame if , you know, you walked in with such an old phone. People might wonder if you only buy organic ... every now and then... Hmm We'll just mass text everyone and let them know you'll get your budget together soon, mmk ... maybe see if they can donate any spare charging cables and adapters since they won't need them ... ever."

Like how the majority of Muricans wants Trump to screw them over again in the presidential election of no one in the world cares of 2020.

Apple’s more successful because they finally made Mac’s worth buying for more than their first-party software. Questionable upgrade prices aside, their performance, engineering and value are leagues better than the dark ages of the mid-2010’s. (This is from a non-Mac guy)

My family’s been using Apple products for years, so all our photos, videos, documents, etc are stored in the Apple cloud; we’re basically having our data being held hostage, and that’s the reason my dad gives me whenever I propose a switch.

@@1337Superfly Not an easy switch if you're my parents I guess.

Holy shit you're right

Its a luxury item made for degenerates

they’re*

The new iSock Starting from $999999.99

when a fashion company releases a 6000u$s desktop cheese grater last year.

oooohhhh, you will never believe just WHO was that dude) Here is the link in case you are interested) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZiPhr1l2cywnqc.html

Who fixed it was rossman lol it's in the same channel you are watching this video from

That dude was this dude dude :p The dudest of all dudes

Imran Hossain I figured that out like a week later

That was Rossman. I saw the same news story too.

I have a samsung notebook that my parents gave to me in 2011. It was slow already in 2011, with a simple pentium dual core and 4 gigs of ram. I remember the laptop struggled to run cs go but I still gamed a lot in it. I did everything I could so I could use it far beyond its potential. I have a picture using an external monitor, cooler, external mouse and keyboard, headphones etc and there I was happy as I could be. I eventually upgraded to 8 gigs of RAM and put an SSD on it and it still works perfectly whilst being almost 10 years old. I just recently opened it to clean it and it's still a laptop I use just to watch videos or something

I've also got a HP laptop that was puchased before my daughter was born. Shes 10 now, and that cheap laptop still works fine.

I've heard a story of a person accidentally dropping their Lenovo Thinkpad from the rafters of a stage. They picked it up and it was still running, no damage other then some scuffs. with a macbook the screen would probably be separated from the computer.

Ok. But it isn't said that a Mac can't do the same. I have been an Apple user since the Apple II which my father brought home. And i have never had any issues with any Mac i purchased. And i purchased a lot of Apple products over time (several releases and sizes in iMac's, several releases and sizes in MacBook and MacBook Pro's, several releases and sizes iPhones and iPads). And i even own a 12 inch MacBook 2017 with butterfly keyboard which i use daily and no issues with the butterfly keyboard. So having an HP, Samsung or Lenovo does not mean that they can't have similar issues as well. Ok, Apple could have handled warranty and service better. But it is often also Apple bashing by mainly Windows users who never even used an Apple device. And my girlfriend has had many Windows notebooks by Acer, Asus, HP and Lenovo. And they all had issues. I installed Windows on a 2012 MacBook Pro 15 inch for my girlfriend which runs a lot faster with Windows then any Windows notebook from that time and over time there is always the issue that Windows will start to run slower. And she can't figure out how macOS works which is a lot easier to use than Windows IMHO. But Windows users are so stuck in the Windows way of working that they can't figure out how to work with macOS. I can do both but i ditched Windows years ago. Because despite all the Apple bashing Windows still sucks when you use it over a longer period of time. It gets slower. And macOS just does not. So every manufacturer be it hardware or software has faults. Not only Apple but also HP, Samsung, Lenovo, Acer, Asus, etcetera. And some of these companies also lack in warranty and service.

When they start manufacturing quantities in the millions, there must be some kind of cap or curve that shows what percentage of these products will fail over time or in specific parts. My guess is both PC and APPLE are obligated to a kind of CHAOS function that results in failures at a certain percentage. You make billions of M&Ms and maybe ther'll ba a percent of packets with all geens, all reds etc., and all else ok. But with pcs and macs, with thousands of parts (thousands of m&ms in one machine, that failure rate soon appears). I've used APPLE since the original mactintosh. Only recently since 2017, have I started seeing these types of failures. My next machine will be a Dell or Lenovo? and will compare. While traveling in Asia, I dropped my iphone 7 on cobblestone in the RP, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF sidewalk repair setups for pc's, cellphones, gaming hardware in the philippines. Took my iphone there asked for a price, $25 to replace screen 3rd party, $45 for new Apple screen. Not bad I thought and I didn't bargain. Iphone still works. My Huawei is also still solid, but Android sucks is all I can say about that.

bro you look like hawkeye

@@shahtayyib hawkeye look like me

Apple repaired all 2009 models with the Glue issue for free, also unhinged displays. Dont believe everything you hear online.

@@Batsot You may have forgotten to mention that this SHOULD NOT HAPPEN for the price tag of 3000 dollars.

@@Batsot why should i believe you then lmao

Apple Inc. is an American multinationaltechnology company headquartered in Cupertino, California, that designs, develops, and sells consumer electronics, computer software, and online services. Wikipedia

@@Almin88 The joke Your head

@@Almin88 r/whoosh

+OrangeOctopus Clearly you do not think differently...

OrangeOctopus clearly you are susceptible to their marketing

But what will you buy instead. The other ones are even worse

@@Nooely framework

@@Nooely its not a coincidence that dumb women and kids prefer Apple products

@@Nooely 🐑🐑🐑

Yea OK.....LMAO

Yeah, their Mac software hasn't been really advanced either. I will agree that iOS is written in Objective C, so it consumes less RAM than android per app. But Linux, Windows, etc are all written in C, assembly and are highly optimized. Windows has better support and software availability than macOS Mac OS doesn't have any "optimization". they keep changing their chip sets and have never supported graphics properly. Windows has proven to have better gaming performance and boot up times as well. It's so bullshit that apple prevents their software (final cut Pro and others) from being used elsewhere, cuz it's one of the only reasons to buy their PC's anyways.

Shoe rubber is some high tech shit.

Actually, a lot is laptops from lenovo and dell are similarly priced, in my country apple is cheaper compared to xps or thinkpad

@@arunthebuffoon4554 Advanced rubber shoe

@@adwaitsharma6915 Yeah, I have a Lenovo and it's much cheaper than Apple, works better too.

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You did do something wrong. You didn't shove the Mac up your friend's ass like they deserve one-another!

Did you hold down the GPU constantly even though it’s not supposed to come off? No? Well, then that’s your fault. In all seriousness, this is horrible. Absolute bullshit. Making money is more important than someone’s future, apparently.

@@Pigninjius "It Just Works!" Remember that?

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More like the opposite

@@marinap5345 yep costs more does less and lasts half as long

No lol

Lmao wtf time has really changed that

it think depends where u r from, in my country iphone 6s+ (which i have rn) costs 620$ meanwhile in usa iphone 11 is nearly the same bruh nice economy

Yep, that's that we called it at my various jobs....trash can Macs. It was probably one of the worst designs for a computer. In a professional rack mount environment, you can imagine how the trash can Mac would fit in or wouldn't ...and it didn't. We had to sit them on rack mount shelves, taking up much more room in the rack then it should. Had to design/get... custom made rack mount hardware for them, sometimes. This is what I thought and said when they came out first...what was Apple thinking when they conjured up this design? The rest of Apple product lines through out the years were never a cup of my tea anyway....design and reliability -wise. They are totally out of the server business now...remember the X-Serve?

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@@MegaSunspark tell me of computers with good software too also please? I have people that I have to stop from forcing me to have Macs!!

@@pgum123gonowplayread4 Try out Linux Mint, or Ubuntu, those are decent

MegaSunspark Probably because Apple is so obsessed with the “form over function” BS.

Apple fanboys are coming lol

Exactly, and to go even further: Every industry, even before Apple was around, takes advantage of the system they run on. Freedom of choice is always there, but the obstacles to get started or even survive with a new/competing product are stifling (cable industry comes to mind). We can pass the blame around to whomever, the point is there is always this problem, and I'm with Louis about looking into solutions. Not just for consumer electronics, but business- and customer-handling as a whole.

The new XPS from Dell are designs rip off of Dell and are actually better XD However, no matter how much you prove, you come out with fact, you do whatever logics you want, the power of Apple's marketing and brand will always shade this. Making people think they have the best product is more powerful than having the best product overall. And I agree with you and since I, being myself an independent technician, refused to work on Apple products my life has got easier.

Luckily, certain countries (like Norway) have laws that protect customers from the "it should last only 2 years" mentality (to a certain degree) Here's a direct excerpt from The Consumer Purchases Act in Norway: "If an item is defective, the consumer must, within a reasonable period of time after he or she discovered or should have discovered the defect, notify the seller that he or she intends to submit a formal complaint with respect thereto. The deadline for submitting a complaint can never be shorter than two months from the point at which the consumer discovered the defect. Any complaint must be submitted no later than two years after the consumer took possession of the item. If, when in normal use, the item or any part thereof is meant to last substantially longer, the deadline for submitting a complaint is five years. This does not apply as long as the seller, by means of a guarantee or other agreement, has assumed liability for defects over a longer period." Phones and laptops are actually examples of items that are meant to last longer than two years. So you have 5 years protection against defects (like some of those Rossmann mentioned in the video) I think that's pretty awesome.

Thankfully we can build our own PCs so at least Windows/Linux users don't have to put up with shitty company policies. And if you can afford an expensive laptop, then you have the option of getting a customisable Clevo laptop (or equivalent) from a reputable computer store.

Surprise Mechanics

@@imdone8243 Lmfao

Pull that out of your ass did you?

@@elkiddo1114 I meeeaan... It is getting apple money. And apple isn't fixing it. Soooo. Yeah he's pretty much correct.

@@Hexcede Dude, Dude, the earth isn't flat. deal with it

Apple doesn't make thier own OS. OSX and iOS are based on FreeBSD. It's a split of the code that they keep updating with new features as FreeBSD releases them then drops their own features on top of. They write a pretty wrapper for it and add in some proprietary stuff on top. The core OS, Apple has never written. Just get that out of your head right now. Apple hasn't written an OS in decades. What Apple creates are what Linux people would call Distributions. A lot of the big under the hood advances come from FreeBSD, not Apple. Here's the real kicker though. All those proprietary Apple connections. Apple HAD to write those themselves. FreeBSD comes out of the box with support for all the industry standards. To create all those things Apple had to set out with the goal of not using standards they already had all the work done for them on and decide to create those proprietary Apple products just to screw customers. It gets worse. Apple purposely removed shell access from the consumer so consumers could not go in and reenable FreeBSD features Apple didn't want them to have. Say what you want about Microsoft. They've expanded shell access. Apple straight up removes it.

@@halycon404 No wonder why homebrew is so popular. Yeah I definitely need to play more with Powershell on Windows. If windows could only something better for dual monitors like apple does mission control I think I would use windows more. I would love for microsoft and Linux to beat Apple. I haven't played with FreeBSD except of course the little bit on Apple. I have played with the Raspberry Pi 4 for of Debian Im not sure how that compares to Debian. One of the great things about Linux is that you can run it on practically any hardware. There is no you have to get a new phone or a new computer with pure Linux.

@@jonny777bike Android is based on Linux. There's a low spec mode to turn off all the pretty graphical party tricks and some of the bells and whistles. In which case it runs on anything, it's also more stable than the full feature version we use. For pure usability us rich folks chasing the newest and best phones get the worst version. There's a reason Android phones pretty much have 90% of the global market. Apple is only a concern in the richest countries. There's entire continents where Apple is less than 1%. Globally Google and Microsoft won the consumer space, it isn't even close. And Linux won in server space, even Microsoft runs a lot of its infrastructure on Linux.

I'm not an apple fan and I barely understand what it means xD Then again, I did watch the video on 2X speed so that miiiight have had something to do with it.

@@darrenwalsh5030 don't watch videos in 2x if ur brain can't handle lmao

@@pocketanime Most videos are fine to watch in 2x, but sometimes the speaker talks in a way that doesn't translate well to faster speeds. Also it was roughly around midnight so sleep fatigue doesn't help either.

Ok

You give me r/imverysmart vibes

Oh it's even worse

@@IStMl Steve pls come back one way or another

Same

Honestly, and I’m not excusing the people who got screwed over, but it’s always a very small % if units that have failures in their normal lifespan. OP’s job means he encounters these machines every day, but that doesn’t mean it’s widespread. In my experience macs last way longer than any windows laptop I owned.

Mat Well first of all, I don’t think it’s fair that you put an aura of ease of use “toys” around the mac, because it’s a very versatile OS that’s extensively used by the majority of STEM researchers, many experts in their field. The beauty of it is that a text editor, developer and researcher can all feel like it was tailored to their use. And in any case, don’t you think it’s fine if people want a stable experience with a phone and computer? There is nothing wrong with people wanting to pay a few extra hundred bucks to not get a blue screen if they can afford it. They’re good phones and good computers. Second, I have used many, many computers. In my personal experience, Apple products have lasted significantly longer. I’m not denying that they make engineering mistakes, I just personally have never encountered these “widespread” failures with extensive use and my family members either with simple use. This is why a lot of Apple costumers, when they hear all the time that macs are shit that have widespread issues, respond this way. Regarding the video, he’s a repair man that is constantly exposed to broken macs, so the failure points become apparent. He also makes most of his popularity with videos that paint a negative view of Apple. What numbers do you have regarding the number that fail? A few forum posts and people bringing it in his shop isn’t enough to paint an accurate picture considering the millions of units sold.

whereas pc users don't think at all.

@@elkiddo1114 Because they don't need to, since they build their own machines.

@@Larry82ch Dude, We are in agreement, they don't think at all.

@@elkiddo1114 Apple users don't have the intelligence to avoid Apple products. Their cognitive abilities are just below not thinking at all.

@@Larry82ch Dude, Really? Why does Best Buy sell already put together PCs eh dingleberry?

Just like the phone slow down because of batteries and bricking phones with replacement screens. They make their products obsolete long before they should be.

Noble1xCarter I get the sentiment, but objectively, it's literally the same thing.

planned obsolescence usually occurs shotly after warranty end, with a lot of theese issues here it was 2-6 weeks after purchase

lacucaracha111111 true but considering how much cash Apple has I highly doubt that they didn't notice any of these problems while in testing, the only answer is that they purposefully let this stay.

Erick J. An Android phone keeps getting updates from the company that made it for 3-4 years, which I admit is less then Apples phones but considering how big the Android community is you can install the new version of Android if you want. Phones like the Nexus 4 and 5 are still being updated my fans in the community.

People have simply become stupid and lost their ability to think critically. It's in most parts of the world right now, people think the earth is flat, people think religion is real, people think aliens are amongst us, some people think they should storm Area 51 because "they have aliens there".. People aren't smart.

Puro Area 51 is just a meme - or is it not?

@@OriginalPuro Your first sentence (or it's second half) is correct. But later... Except "area 51" is nothing but a running joke, as are the aliens, religion is very real as it always has been, Earth may, or may not be flat - as a common person, you cannot prove either way. In conclusion, you are the one not sounding very smart mate. Sort yourself out.

AmIgOltu lmao you just fit his description of a fucking tard

@@Gyvulys As a Common man, i can look out the window of an airplane and see the curve of the world, so regardless of if its a sphere or not, it is NOT flat.

Lord's work

cheater00 and yet at Apple there isn't much of a choice either. People don't know because they don't look for it, even this video can't so nothing for them. But by any means: - Any Dell XPS from 2015 to 2018 - Any Thinkpad really - Matebook pro for the style obsessed ;) Etc.

the problem is, every other manufacturer is making almost same shit designs that it feels like that they purposely doing this so that units will fail after couple of years. You cant possibly show any better alternatives to people unless we were in 2010.. Any brand that makes though (do actually works forna long years) laptops or phones already get bankrupt and erased from history. I highly recommend you to read brave new world. Because this is how new world order looks like.

cheater00 // don’t trust apple hardware. That’s why I buy anything else that are compatible with hackintosh

You missed out the massive problem of retina MBPs having their anti-reflective coating peel off and look absolutely horrible, and still not being fixed 5 years later. The screen replacement program has been running since 2015, it's insane

Can you explain how?

@@OG_Gyekye Literally watch the fucking video

@@trugictra I did and didn’t understand so why can’t you explain?

@@OG_Gyekye they make products that are counter intuitive and literally break themselves while you use them. they often fuck their customers over with bad support and often set very tight criteria as to when you're eligible to send their shit back

@@trugictra is their any proof of this? I need to know cause from the videos I’ve see. They’ve given proof and I just want to under if there’s any proof on the other side before I make my final decision

Lol, it's that true 🤣

Yo I used to have a 4s it had all of those issues

Oh, and the screen is starting to fry itself and darken at the same time

My 3 year old iPhone 7 literally has a battery life of 7 minutes and dies at 100% all the time too, so I felt that

@@chrisjklofton They are called "features"

YEAH! The last masterpiece. S

Its not actually the core i9 that is getting to hot, but the driver chips that provide the power to the i9 cpu, and that is why this macbook is throttling down the speed, those chips can't compete with the "power hungry" i9 chip, so the chip doesn't receive its full power because the drivers are boiling themselves of the board, this macbook will die in about 13 to 14 months, and many will think it is a dead cpu while the actual problem are those boiling driver chips, and these chips are made by apple and nobody can provide those, so apple has made a unfixable machine again that will fail in a very short amount of time, unless repair shops can get their hands on donor boards, but the i9 model is simply to new

kevin12567 ya the i9 is something that would be used in a desktop because it needs a water cooling system

and thats what they were working on for 2 years

you don't need water cooling for an i9, matter of fact is that air coolers are actualyl better for cooling, water cooling is actually less efficient than air cooling, it's just quieter.

That's why HP isn't worth $900bn. When HP also start to make crappy products and charging twice the price - then their stocks will sky rocket

@@lookoutforchris whats cost of ownership?

I have Asus k55vd which is 9 years old and still running. All i did was i have changed hdd to ssd and added a bit of RAM. Epic laptop

My mother had her HP laptop for over 10 years and had to stop using it only because the performance was getting too low.

Tbh I had an HP 10 years ago and it died hard due to a motherboard failure. I'm not fond of HP all that much any more.

S4nari I had a similar arguments of Motorola vs Apple. I miss my little flip phone Motorola. That sucker lasted me 3 years and still worked like brand new, despite being thrown, dropped, and rough handled.

I'd settle for macOS (A certified UNIX operating system) over Windows any-day of the week. Thankfully, I can build a Hackintosh and run macOS on decent hardware. Apple really needs to correct its hardware path.

Agreed.

Apple use to be great machines. I have such fond memories of my Apple II. But that Apple is long gone.

@Evi1M4chine These are all the apple hardware products I've ever used: Macintosh Plus, Macintosh II, iBook, first-generation iPod, Original iMac, Power Mac G4, PowerBook G4 12", iPod touch, MacBook Air, Ipad, Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, ipod Nano, Iphone 6, Ipad Pro. Not listed here is the multitude of mac only software that went along with these machines including things like Final Cut Pro. So yeah, I have experience with their products, both currently and throughout the companies history. Nothing in my comment would suggest that I confuse software and hardware, I've used it all since the late 80's. The pricing of their products are not justified by the return of any extra processing power or availability of exclusive software. Also, being able to run one OS on the other machine is irrelevant.

Elepole Eolis good ole Bethesda excuse except it works for them lol

Lol only apple could sell a product with a fatal flaw and call it a feature. I know your just making fun of them but honestly they could probably legitimatelly tell people its a feature and they would buy it knowing its going to break and tell all their friends "its just a feature" lol.

Per Karlsson I think you have your time off a little bit, I think you mean 10+ months, unlike many competitors that last around an average of 5 years based on either user error, the screen hinges breaking, or just simply becoming outdated.

Per Karlsson tell that to my friend that have speaker problem on his macbook only in his 2nd year of usage

I trust Louis Rossmann and Linus Tech Tips, It is great that you have had a good user experience and your devices are still fine I am truely happy for you but I'll never get one based off the vast majority of poor owner experiences both from what I have read and seen online via credible sources like LTT and LR but also from friends and their experiences. All of my friends that once were Apple fanatics have since moved to Android and Windows based products many years ago. Usually just 1 owner experience is all it took them to make the switch. There is no reason for Apple to make their batteries "non replaceable" at all other than to intentionally make the product performance decline so you buy a new phone. Just a small example of their b.s. they pull.

Nicki Boling which iphone was it?

@@splatooner808 fortnite players dont have an opinion

TheMetalCactus you know some of us aren’t annoying and are actually sensible people

Splatooner 808 no fetuses don’t have an opinion

TheMetalCactus redditors don’t have an opinion

Good on you for having the courage to say that.

Cool story. Fuck Apple

Lets fucking go, yessir!

@@Pigninjius Honestly it was more like blind rage than courage.

I had the exact same experience as you at apple store and like you i went to samsong but about a year later the phone didn't want to charge so went back to the store kind of upset but the saleman said it couldn't be fixt so he just give me a new one

Steve jobs - im so innovative i steal peoples ideas and inventions just like Thomas Edison and sell them as my own a couple years later to dumb people.

Hitesh Lalwani Tim Cook seems very shady. That man is the devil.

Steve job was all 20 heads of the snake....glad he's gone

TheGodfather 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼

@@dragonduel7909 Pretty fucked up being glad someone's dead. Also, the company has only declined since jobs passing, steve dying fixed nor proved anything.

worth

Totally worth it.

Lmao

*Best one minute of my life*

@@indonesia8394 I agree.

So...43 years ago..in the absolute infancy of personal computers, you thought that the Apple 1 computer had potential but was poorly designed? You were one of the people that was able to get your hands on one of the 200 units made and critiqued its design? What experience did you have in personal computing did you have at this time? Or..did you just look at a picture of the machine? "People that continue to buy Apple products are just crazy people with no understanding of electronics." LMAO. Is that your statement? Funny..most people buy these devices because they don't..and don't want to understand electronics. They just want a device that works smoothly. They want to turn it on and use it. Which is exactly what Apple provides. This is why people keep buying Apple products...I don't understand how you can have any idea what it is like to own an apple product if you never have had one? How did you know how they treat their customers? I will tell you this. When my son was in college we offered to buy him a mac desktop..he wanted a PC. We advised against it but he insisted he wanted a PC. We bought him a Dell Inspiron. As far as I could tell he never had a problem with the hardware..but he was constantly dealing with malware and virus's. People are willing to pay more for a product that works. Back in the day I had a Dell, Packard Bell and IBM desktops. I liked them at the time. After I bought my first iMac I was hooked. Everything just worked flawlessly. No virus's no problems. I have had 2 iMacs, 3 ipads, 5 iphones, apple TV, apple watch, two macbook pros, ipods, ipod shuffle and a time capsule. The only problems I had were..the first iMac, hard drive failed after 9 years. Apple replaced it at the Apple store for just the cost of the part. My time capsule had multiple hard drive failures. Great product idea but I had a lot of problems with it. See, unlike you I don't care what anyone else buys..I buy what works for me. According to your summation you make me out to a crazy person. Why? Again, if you have never bought an Apple product how can you tell people what that experience is like? So..people that buy PC's and Android products understand electronics and aren't crazy? lol. You see, I can only tell you about my experiences. You talk about products having a built in limited life span? What consumer electronics product doesn't? One last point...everyone that has a smartphone now has more information on it than at home. With that being said, Android is so far below Apple in data safety it is not even in the same universe. Which is part of the reason the android platform is much more customizable. I still get a kick out of reading that you don't like the way Apple treats there customers..lol...saying that and NEVER having owned an Apple product. So..you just read what other people say and make it gospel? BTW..I was 16 in 1976..how old were you?

@@kevinshea5819 are you criticizing an electronic engineer? I can't stop laughing, a simple customer who says at an engineer how he should see things/products with a critical eye... You wrote something unreadable for how long It Is, just to say to an engineer "you didn't have the instruments to see the product properly", well guess what, you surely don't have and Will never have the critical eye the engineers have 'cause you don't want to criticize what you have a feeling for. It doesn't exist you can even think to tell to an engineer how he should see the products/things cause your blindness Is the cause Apple does shitty quality products, and since they know It's their weak point, they take advantage of conditions in their warranty programs to screw the the customer (you). This type of people doesn't demonstrate coherence to criticize someone else's thinking, so live in your Little world and shut up! You have what you deserve; pay a lot to solve nothing, but leave in peace Who doesn't want to do the same.

Anto G Well as a PhD candidate in engineering at an R1, I can assure you that OP is full of BS. Steve Wozniak is a genius and revolutionized the personal computer using innovative circuitry with the Apple I and some Atari games. You can hate Apple today but saying the Apple 1 was poorly designed makes 0 sense. If that was the case Apple would have never grown as it did. Furthermore, a ton of innovation with the GUI and usability happened on the mac. It’s one thing to disagree with the direction Apple took or dislike their current hardware, but denying the impact it had is a whole new level of BS hating.

@@diverman1023 don't make confusion, i'm an engineer and i lived the transformation of seeing something with "new eyes". I replied to the post in which someone who demonstrates to don't have the instruments to criticize products (the customer "eye") tells to someone who can have the instruments to see critically "you're wrong, i'm right", asking about the age and other things which are useless in this topic (attacking firstly the person, not what have been added to the discussion). This Is the attitude which create confusion. You've done the right thing; in synthesis you said: "i don't share what Richard said cause i see those things which make me say that It was well designed." There was an argumentation and you did It without attacking the person, this Is how a constructive discussion Is. Also you replyed to something old (Apple I), i was talking about something newer (post 2008), so don't make confusion; about Apple I, talk directly to Richard, about Apple post 2008 i can participate to the discussion, about what i've said to Kevin don't name Apple cause the subject was the attitude to demonstrate a critical thinking, which Kevin doesn't have; the fact It was defending Apple was a plus, if he tried to defend another brand in the same way i could write something very similar.

@@diverman1023 anyway, what today happens demonstrates that the consensus doesn't come only After quality, so i can say that the reasons Apple has grown so much aren't only in the potential of the Apple I (also because all the big party people who didn't help Apple to grow up, i don't remember specifically the names of the the reference of the PC market, but i remember that most of them didn't accept to help Apple, cause they also didn't see sufficient potential in their project). I don't think these people were stupids and i understand what Richard could have think: something these big names could have think also. So, Apple surely had success but the reasons aren't so simple to find and understand...

Same

Truly underrated comment.

Don't insult the animals like that. At least the food could've been useful for their survival!

😂

@Aran Rasekhi shut up stoopid kid, ur live is prety sad by havin only Apple...

My 2013 MacBook air 11” has those same specs :/ Needless to say, I’ve been planning on switching to pc once I have the money. (The laptop was a Christmas present several years ago)

Kasai i dont know my sister has a macbook air from the 13 or 14 and it might not be a beast but it is very durable. We fling that thing across the room and nothing would happen to it.On the other hand, I got a hand me down iphone 7 and that shit is flimsy and unreliable.

Mali Kali yeah, mines been dropped a few times and it’s got dents but it still works

Mali Kali Huh. I’ve dropped my iPhone 7 from the first floor and it doesn’t have any issue. Jailbroken with checkra1n too. I love this phone.

No Name for most people, the audio fizzles out after a while because some audio chip got loose. The problem happens to a lot of these iphone 7s so as far as apple products go; the iphone 7 and 7 plus aren’t reliable.

@Robin Nilsson uses google....

@Robin Nilsson Well there is a reason why the other services are going to struggle. From understanding you use an android phone? Well from the moment you accept the ToS you get tracked, its part of the OS. you dont need to invest. The whole world is tracking you anyway. i would say that the huge sums of money is really part of anything these days . Like it or not apple's products arent really of dubious quality, every manufacturer has recalls, do they get the same media coverage nope they dont. anyway i am not here to change your mind, however i am also at least going to set some things straight. Also the Algorithm already knows you pretty well the random searches are filtered out automagically. PS; DuckDuckGO is pretty close

Gtx 1080 Ti iPhones are literally the most powerful consumer phones right now, so they’re not underpowered

​@@petrosdimitriospilichos9195 If google were as restrictive as apple I wouldnt have been able to come close to using 'duckduckgo' webbrowser extension *on CHROME* whose profits very much depends on dissing google and denting their tracking profits nor use adblockers to filter out the ads which essentially very much is google's moneymaker.

@@nitinanku since when do iPhones OR in fact anyphone have a GTX 1080 Ti in them!? Know your facts before you speak out loud.

damn

Ironic. He could save others from death, but not you.

Clearly you're chargin it wrong

Freddy Kabuffke bruh I’m using an apple charging cable and an apple charging base and it says not charging

@@_wheat856 Buy a new charging base and cable. If this doesn't work, buy a new phone. Not Apple's fault, if you handle it wrong 👀

Agreed, hate the way Apples are locked down.

WaterFlam3 are you three years old or something? This is the Internet.

Unlike apple's.

Andre Gon oof

the type of content Apple haters fap too.

‘Cheaply built’ ok, like my lovely plastic dell which shredded my DVD while I typed on it because there was no material between the keyboard and the optic drive. Your argument seems to be simply that Apple products are flawed, and it takes longer than seems necessary to amend the design flaws. I feel your pain, but honestly, I find this is just a growing trend, electronics are today’s version of expensive disposable cameras. Dell, HP, Apple, Samsung. All very flawed and designed to fail. They want you to buy a new one in 2-3 years. And... honestly, by then you wouldn’t really want to still be using the machine as it will be reliant on what is now outdated tech. If you analyze the circuits in any modern product, you will find many flaws. At the end of the day, there has to be such a thing as ‘good enough to ship’. They can’t spend 5 years designing and perfecting the next model, they come out every 6 months anymore. I work in IT, and I know as well as you do; if none of this stuff ever broke down, we wouldn’t have a job. Under HEAVY use, I literally EXPECT failure: Monitors max 5 years Mouse/keyboard 1 year Desktop 2-3 years Laptop 1.5 years major repair, 3 years salvage/dead Hard drive 2 years tops SSD 2-3 years maybe Bottom line is unless you are babying machines, they will break simply from use and wear. In a busy work environment, the data and continued productivity is crucial and downtime or lack of machines far outweighs the comparably small size of doing some repairs or even replacing a batch of machines. Perfect machines that never fail just wont happen.

thejpkotor Dell is the only manufacturer worst than Apple. Get yourself a quality Asus laptop. I still have one running strong since 2010. The battery died sometime ago but that’s expected.

The Chillmaster That is true, but even still. When a reviewer gets a pair of beats headphones, they almost always say it has that "beats sound" (not really a good thing, but it might suit some people's taste) and they recommend to be careful with them since the headphone band can't bend much. In my opinion, beats still need a hardware redesign/boost.

They kind of inherited that problem though

they could try and fix it

Quality is not bad (I've got Beats solo) but they definitely overpriced. No microphone (they're not full headset) it's something they do not advertise. It just uncomfortable when somebody is calling...

The Chillmaster they only got better because as time passes,audio quality gets better. Not because Apple is any good. Any company's headphones get better sound quality for the price as time passes.

...what's hilarious is that I totally "get" that! I'm pissed, too.

years ago i had a girlfriend who got me a iphone for my birthday. I needed a new phone, i broke mine a few days before.. She is no longer my girlfriend.

My only Apple product is an iPod that I got as a gift like 6-7 years ago. And it already had at least 2 owners before me. It still works fine, aside from the "adjust volume" buttons on the side not working anymore and the "power" button needs to be pressed hard for it to work. Screen is shattered but still works (dropped it around a million times over the years). So all in all, that's pretty good for a portable device. My android phone only lasted 2 years before I dropped it one too many times and it stopped turning on. But still, the android had so much better functionality. I could use it as usb drive, I could easily put in and switch SD cards, installing apps was easier, putting music (or movies or any media) onto it didn't require a program (iTunes), and putting music (or again movies etc...) didn't require you to have an exact copy of your library on your PC (otherwise the missing files from your pc will also be deleted from your iPod for some fucking reason), I could take out the back panel without ease, while the iPod can't be taken apart, the iPod has this stupid Apple USB cable that isn't standard for any other company (and more expensive too), while I had around 10 other cables in my home for my android phone that I could use to charge it or connect it to my pc.... I could go on forever but you get the point.... it just sucks that Apple devices don't have these features which are standard for any other device on the market.....

Same here, never owned an Apple product and i am pissed for a good reason. Apple jacks up the prices, and the rest do the same. So Apple screws over everybody, even non-Apple sheep.

It's called, "being human". Apple can't grasp that concept, because their consumers are sheeps!

Steve is a genius in computer, but he is more than a genius in marketing, he use the advantages of people thinking he gonna give them good products, those products were created to fails, and those people still buy more and thinking to themselves: "This product is bad, but it probably the best bEcAusE he was know a genius in computer". So yeah, your statement is absolutely right

I remember seeing a video of those thin women's socks being used for towing a car. Now that shit rips if you flex too hard.

Marketing trick as old as humanity.

its called geplante Obsoleszenz

J P depending on the brand and yea iPhone slows down update after update, my gf iphone 6s is already pissing her off everyday

Nokia DOES still make phones. They release phones with android os and they still have classic Nokia build quality and strength. (and no its not the 3310 disgrace of a remake they made, they make actual phones like Samsung)

Are the android nokias good? I'd never seen anyone using them.

You can always build hackintosh if you don't want to buy Apple hardware.

I wish that it was possible with iOS too.

I thought the 2000 Macbook Pro had the little hole by the drive where you could insert a paper clip to eject it... I could be wrong... Was a long time ago... No I'm sure it did have that option...

IMO Apple's undoing was when the iMacs caught on like wildfire and they decided to put style over substance and put a premium price tag on less-than-premium hardware.

@@MementoMori-xx5qo (No hate) haven't seen? There is well built windows laptops, with the same kind of aluminum body (they're more rare ofc) but example new(ish) Dell XPS series could be pretty close. *some new MacBooks have that problem, if you close and open the screen (laptop ofc) the" screen flex cable" will broke in matter of time because the cable is too short...( and Apple's engineering is only the reason why its happening( "its your fault" is their idea behind that.) (Apple didn't even admit it?)*

@@MementoMori-xx5qo "I’ve never seen a windows laptop with better structural integrity than a Apple laptop." - Straight from the description: "1:01 - A1226/A1260 2007-2008 Macbook GPU failures, warranty service refusal 2:21 - A1226/A1260 2007-2008 Macbook Pro hinge/frame problem 3:16 - A1286 Macbook Pro - the "Unibody" myth, glued together pieces fall apart 4:58 - A1286/A1297 MCP power circuit failure due to poor buck converter design: C7771 issue 6:01 - iPhone 4 cellular placement fail 7:12 - iPhone 5 power button problem 7:27 - A1286 2010 Macbook Pro GPU kernel panics due to same buck converter defect from 2008/2009(this gives you a hint that apple engineers doesn't give a crap about engineering good products, same design flaw for three straight years) 10:04 - A1286 2011 Macbook Pro GPU failure, Apple gets sued over not addressing problem. 11:43 - Apple gives out badly refurbished boards as warranty replacements for 2011 GPU failures. 13:06 - 2012 Retina Macbook Pro: another motherboard issue (U8900), due to poor soldering/manufacturing method on the GPU buck converter. 14:46 - Mac Pro GPU failure (again). 16:27 - iPhone 6/6+ touchscreen issue due to structural issue. 18:23 - SSD soldered straight into the motherboard+ chip that would kill the macbook, because a power line would short out to ground when the chip dies. 20:18 - 2016 Macbook keyboard reliability issue. 21:52 - 2016 Macbook Battery failure issue. 22:50 - A1278 Macbook Pro SATA cable failures(yes, really). " Great structural integrity from Apple. LMAO. Have you only seen Windows laptops that cost less than $100 or something?

Scirocco “what windows laptop is made from metal”. You must be good at your job then 😂😂😂

FrostyKaynine tbh android is still crap. System is so unsecure. Is switched to iphone for a reason

@@tripzz3013 at the cost of limiting your freedom.

@@tripzz3013 "Alphabet GOOGL-owned Google researchers recently published a report about Chinese hacking of iPhones to track its minority Uighur community." Yet apple is soo secure?

@@lexort4204 Apple only has the "secure" reputation because, historically, very few people had them and so it wasn't worth hackers breaking into them.

@@tripzz3013 its not. it is the lack of understanding you have of it. it is way more open to the public, for involvement in whats going on. which is not a case with apple. a devlicence on android is a 25 dollar one time purchase, apple is 100 dollars a year.

I'm all for that, we have an administration now that is gutting all consumer protections.

I've been to said Netherlands and can confirm; these guys are great, really

I am pretty sure than that law is tyrannical.

Okay, but consumers end up paying for those costs. I’m guessing computers are far more expensive in the Netherlands than the U.S. The manufacturers and retailers just spread out the costs into higher computer prices.

@@showtimebruin7821 nope, false

Yes. They're computers for people who don't really need computers. The ad campaign with the Mac and PC Guys was explicitly classist, and positioned Apple as a luxury brand rather than a producer of useful products.

​@@pkunkbwok Actually, that's not always the case. I am a PC guy myself. I dislike Apple products, but my mom loves them a lot. She's got, an iPhone, an iPad and a Mac. She uses the latter when she needs to work while traveling, as it is pretty light. She says that that is the main reason why she uses a Mac for this. Also, guess who gets stuck with troubleshooting an unfamiliar system when something goes wrong?

@@interlamer7480 thats my life in a nutshell, except they dont just have apple devices, they sometimes screw up good devices by falling for stupid *U won 10k* shits that appears on random websites. And when it comes to their iphones, i always say, "I own an android tablet, A TABLET, thats a phone, im never familiar with iphones so i cant fix it dead ass"

People just don't want to listen man...

Why does it have a keyboard and trackpad/mouse?

Ask them what graphics card they are using xD I don't treat anyone who uses an apple product seriously, it's a dunce cone on their head.

EarlGrey n

When a month ago I was looking for a laptop(I'm a digital artist) people kept telling me"You need a Mac!!!111!". Like I'm gonna be retarded enough to waiste 2k$ on a shitty machine with a laughable hardware and a display that needs another 150$ device to be calibrated before being good enough to be used. I need the laptop to work and play games, not to show it off in coffee shops lol

It's not the manufacture of a monitor that determines the 'correctness' of the color, it's the calibration that determines that. The monitors at the graphical department of my workplace, while from a cheap source, have good color-reproduction due to being calibrated with printing-press color reference sheets instead of relying on the (never accurate) factory settings.

The thing you have to remember is that most (if not all) millennials were raised on Apple and Apple products. In grade schools, then high schools, etc. And they seriously believe that Apple is the best. Maybe someday they'll wake up to the fact that they've been paying out too much money for over-priced, over-hyped, and under-performing devices, but I don't think it'll happen anytime soon.