The Hot One Trope, Explained: Why She's Chosen | Friends & Beyond
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Friends' Rachel Green, Monica Geller, and Phoebe Buffay are all beautiful - but the show singled out only one as the "hot one". For a long time, there was a trend on screen where, within any group of female friends - regardless of what any of them looked like - one was always upheld as the hot friend (pretty much always because she was the main love object of the story.) But this trope split off from other ‘hot girl’ tropes for one key reason: her friendships. So where did the ‘hot one’ trope even come from, and how did Rachel (with the help of Monica and Phoebe) change it for the better? (And have we finally gotten rid of it altogether?) Let’s take a deeper look at the ‘hot one’ trope!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
00:37 Why stories choose the "hot" one
02:32 How the "hot friend" & general "hot girl" tropes differ
04:22 Thank you to Factor!
05:25 Friends' framing
06:16 Phoebe vs Ursula
07:32 Friends' 'hot one' switch up
08:15 The freedom of not being the hot one
09:06 Growth through friendship without competition
10:11 Everyone's hot now!
The Take was created by Debra Minoff & Susannah McCullough
This video was written/narrated/edited by Jessica Babineaux
Films & shows featured in this video:
Friends
Riverdale
Gossip Girl
Skins
Dawson’s Creek
New Girl
Misfits
Grey’s Anatomy
Jennifer’s Body
Transformers
The Idol
Heathers
Pretty Woman
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes
How to Marry a Millionaire
Gilmore Girls
High School Musical
Euphoria
Sex Lives of College Girls
Legally Blonde
Mean Girls
Pride and Prejudice (1995)
The Princess Diaries
Shrill
Bridgerton
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Booksmart
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@TeamPaul17 20 күн бұрын
A male version of this trope exists as well. I think a Take on that is warranted. There are differences in how the Hot Girl is treated versus the Hot Guy.
@magma4168 20 күн бұрын
"Let us introduce you to 4 characters that look way better than 98% of people you'll ever meet in real life. Now, please believe that just one of them has the pretty privilege and the other three are kind of mid."
@nansiipii9018 16 күн бұрын
Yall white people really see a bunch of white girls and say they are better looking than 98 person on the whole world ? Yall know how many popele ar in the world ? Average woman of color in asia looks better than a lot of them
@tamiausten873 12 күн бұрын
Yeah. I loved Phoebe and her evil twin Ursula. And Monica was trolled to much for her past, when she was so fit, like the Brits would say.
@yundorphin 20 күн бұрын
The concept of female friendship through the male gaze is wild...
@sammyvictors2603 20 күн бұрын
How does the Male Gaze view female friendship? like.... friendly until a man shows up and they go catty? if so, Yikes.
@yundorphin 20 күн бұрын
@sammyvictors2603 they describe it early on in the video - but basically "female friendships aren't that deep and secretly everyone is competing, usually for a man." XD; I was listening to a researched video essay yesterday on the difference between male and female friendships (this is all largely due to socialization than anything inherent to our biology btw) and it seems male friendships tend to be more "surface-level" with an emphasis on shared experience (in the physical, active sense), rather than developed through conversation and deep connection, which is encouraged in girls from a young age.
@robynmutema5830 18 күн бұрын
Totally. what you said comes through a lot in HIMYM with Robin and Lily's relationship. Lily is either making jokes about wanting to make out with Robin or being jealous of Robin because Robin can eat whatever she wants and only gains weight in her boobs. The most of the writers on that show were men and it shows.
@antithoughtpolice7497 15 күн бұрын
Tbf, girls do it to guys, too.
@badaboum2 14 күн бұрын
As far as Friends is concerned, one of the main creative forces in the show was a woman. Marta Kaufman was a (co-)creator, showrunner, writer, executive producer and casting director of the show.
@mbanerjee5889 20 күн бұрын
"Hot" is not about looks it's about behavior (or perceived behavior). Rachel was the popular cheerleader, Monica was the fat friend, and Phoebe was the weird homeless girl. Regardless of how they looked, Rachel is perceived as fitting the cool girl trope.
@R_S747 15 күн бұрын
Exactly haha there isn't exactly a shortage of times the show points out that Monica and Phoebe are beautiful. A whole plotline is that a famous movie star finds Monica more beautiful than Rachel and so many men fall in love with Phoebe just based on her looks so I think it's kind of a poor example.
@antithoughtpolice7497 15 күн бұрын
Literally. It's that she acts the role, too. Monica had to develop into it, in her 20s. And Monica outdid her a couple times.
@luzvazquez4189 13 күн бұрын
Yes and that's exactly what the video said lmao
@ssissigui8846 20 күн бұрын
I always thought Monica was most beautiful. Happy to see it's not only me
@s010s 18 күн бұрын
Same
@lalaland7961 15 күн бұрын
You’re falling into the trap by trying to shine light on whose the “ most beautiful” again
@nightlove5642 15 күн бұрын
@lalaland7961 a lot of people in this comment section are doing this unfortunately.
@bebbycute 14 күн бұрын
@@lalaland7961🎯🎯🎯 thank you for saying it
@maze2253 13 күн бұрын
Like Chandler said to Mon, "You're the most beautiful woman in most rooms." The pretty one trope usually implies that she is from a privileged background and didn’t have to work a day in her life. Neither Monica nor Phoebe had that luck. Rachel did in the beginning, which is why she is the 'pretty girl' of friends.
@trinaq 20 күн бұрын
I always thought that Rachel, Monica and Phoebe were just as gorgeous, yet Rachel was the designated "hot" one. It's likely because she was more into her looks than the other two.
@roadrollerdio565 20 күн бұрын
Child me watching Friends with my big sister thought Monica was the best looking one and crushed on her, so revisiting the show as a teenager, I was taken aback to realize the show marked Rachel as the hot one. Also in hindsight, how did I not see I was gay! 😂
@MatildeVallespinCasas 20 күн бұрын
I feel they bought in the dynamics of the 80s movies which haven't aged well
@samf.s.7731 20 күн бұрын
That's actually a good thing to point out, but that's also why she's designated "the spoiled one" or "shallow". She gets dragged for that on and off screen. It didn't come without a price, just saying! And she hates it when people call her that. When Ross puts it on the infamous list, she admits that she knows she is that but she's very insecure... I don't know how Leonard and Sandra treated their daughters, but I'm not surprised that Rachel has insecurities. And she's still a much better person than Jill and Amy. Edit: Welp, except I do know and it seemed very ... The kind of stuff that would mess you up.
@Shadow-zf5uc 19 күн бұрын
Two things that singled out Rachel as the hot one were: 1. Ross was a very popular character at the time and his love for and his on again off again relationship with Rachel was central to a lot of storylines. Plus Ross was in unrequited love with Rachel for the whole first season of the show. So the idea of men being incredibly attracted to Rachel was introduced early and frequently during the series. 2. In real life Jennifer Aniston, who played Rachel Green, dated and married the guy who was considered literally one of the hottest men, if not the hottest man ever in Hollywood, Brad Pitt. If Jennifer Aniston is good looking enough to attract the attention and "commitment" of a young, hot, and famous Brad Pitt she must be the hottest "Friend." Note how in both of these examples what makes Rachel the "hot one" is not any innate personality traits she has but just popular men being interested in her both on and off screen.
@MatildeVallespinCasas 19 күн бұрын
@@Shadow-zf5ucall that plus the fact that Rachel was meant to be an archetype before the casting and when Jennifer was chosen they carried on with the initial idea. In fact, Courtney Cox auditioned for the role until they realised that personality wise Monica was better match. Also, and talking about Ross, the creators wanted to make the cliché in movies of "geek gets the hot girl" and they had to play along(DS and JA are mote than average attractive people and she is not much more noticeably attractive than him for the trope to be believable)
@frankinsaneandmyrrh1202 19 күн бұрын
I always thought Monica was so stunning. I'm drawn to men and women with dark hair and blue eyes. But it's true, the three women were all gorgeous.
@Alannameyers 20 күн бұрын
I always thought Phoebe was the most attractive but still I think they’re all beautiful
@leapintothewild 18 күн бұрын
Lisa Kudrow is still gorgeous to this day, and no weird plastic surgery!
@R_S747 15 күн бұрын
Now Monica is the prettiest one to me personally because I prefer the dark hair and blue eyes combo but growing up Rachel was like the most beautiful woman ever to me
@llandriell 18 күн бұрын
I would love to see Lisa, Courteney and Jennifer do a scene read in which they play the Character they were initially intended.
@Justrachelll 14 күн бұрын
That would be cool
@PJsReads 20 күн бұрын
AKA: The woman men are supposed to want and the women woman are supposed to want to be
@tajanaecole1246 20 күн бұрын
Rory Gilmore, Elena Gilbert, and Serena van der Woodsen fit the Hot One trope. The hot one and main protagonist (Syndrom) tropes are sisters.
@sofitocyn100 19 күн бұрын
Serena is a sister to an insignifiant character...
@kiddorot3848 18 күн бұрын
@@sofitocyn100she meant the tropes are sisters. Like they go hand in hand.
@miranda_turtle0566 16 күн бұрын
I noticed this and it's funny to me because in if Gilmore girls was in real like I don't think rory would have been the hot friend in a group of girls she would've been the nerdy one, but I guess in a show full of characters like that she is the hot one
@R_S747 15 күн бұрын
@@miranda_turtle0566honestly idk about that Alexis (the actress for Rory) is extremely beautiful. Her beauty is the only reason she has a career in the first place God knows she couldn't act for crap when she started starring in movies 😂
@miranda_turtle0566 15 күн бұрын
@R_S747 I know she's beautiful but she has a very soft beauty, I wouldn't consider her striking or the "hot" friend
@signalfire15 20 күн бұрын
I’ve never once watched Friends and thought of Rachel as “the hot one.” All three girls were good looking and got multiple sexual partners.
@AsMr-km6ex 17 күн бұрын
Same but all men I knew were obsessed with her
@signalfire15 17 күн бұрын
@@AsMr-km6ex Yeah, I think in real life most men had a crush on Jennifer Aniston but I don’t think that she was the perceived “hot one” in the show. They established that she was the “popular” one in high school for sure, and Monica was heavy back then, but in terms of male suitors, Monica and Phoebe had A LOT and got a lot / equal admiration for their beauty by the male characters in the show.
@Missmagazinebura 17 күн бұрын
I thought Rachel was the popular one
@signalfire15 17 күн бұрын
@@Missmagazinebura she was definitely the popular one
@nansiipii9018 16 күн бұрын
@@AsMr-km6ex a lot of men are obsessed with a lot kind of girls
@Gabster1990 20 күн бұрын
My brothers and cousins said Monica was the hot one physically but her personality was off putting.
@magma4168 20 күн бұрын
And Rachel's wasn't?
@NotAnotherKuromi 20 күн бұрын
I always said Monica was the hottest but everyone always said it was clearly Rachel. I feel vindicated!
@josephine1465 20 күн бұрын
I still prefer Monica's personality instead of Rachel's selfish and cunning nature
@magictravelkitty3440 20 күн бұрын
I think monica was way preetier too .
@macLoscope 20 күн бұрын
I love Monica. I think she is beautiful, but also very loving, caring, funny and kinda cute
@iprobablyforgotsomething 20 күн бұрын
I thought Phoebe was the prettiest but it was mostly disguised by her eccentricities, and 'weird-hippy-girl' wardrobe. Not that she always dressed oddly but moreso than the others, her outfits were less flattering, as that's the vibe the show seem to frame her with. Like it was subtly saying, "she *could* be hot if she was 'normal' but she's not because she's 'kooky' eh?" I feel like, in any other show, or just played differently on Friends, Phoebe would've been designated the snobby, hot, tall blonde model-chick or some-such.
@caras4766 19 күн бұрын
Yeah for sure, they often dressed Phoebe in clothes that were purposefully unflattering (her worst colours, for example) which, as you say, goes some way towards showing us that Phoebe isn't someone who cares about looking Hot, at least not in a conventional sense. (But she still of course looks attractive)
@Imokayluv 18 күн бұрын
They were all hot and they knew it and was confident in that fact., phoebe and Monica both got whoever they wanted throughout the whole series.
@lisehoover 18 күн бұрын
Phoebe was the prettiest. Actually at the beginning she dresses hippie and stuff but she totally glows up around season 6-7 (If I'm not mistaken)
@caras4766 18 күн бұрын
@@Imokayluv you’re right, they were all hot and did know it and were confident in their ability to attract the guys they liked. I don’t think it was portrayed that Rachel was better looking than the others, but she was framed in such a way as to be The Hot One. I’m not sure how to articulate it though! I suppose it’s partly that she was portrayed as the most conventional (personality wise, and most focused on current trends) and therefore the most stereotypically hot.
@destinychild4659 18 күн бұрын
I didn't really see Phoebe hot, at all. Both Monica and Rachel were. But I guess it's matter of opinion. It's not just looks, it's also personality amd how they are written.
@arabellamileham9978 20 күн бұрын
Jennifer Aniston is also a better actress than the original part required, first the spoilt one then the 'hot' one. She grew out of' playing one facet of the character
@healthibons 20 күн бұрын
I always found Monica more gorgeous even though Phoebe and Rachel were beautiful in their own right. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder? But marketing and strong PR team can help you outshine too.
@nataliaalfonso2662 20 күн бұрын
Monica had by far the best face. It was even often mentioned in the show, but she had been a big girl before so she still had that chip on her shoulder.
@NotAnotherKuromi 20 күн бұрын
I am happy to see other people who thought Monica was the prettiest. I'm beginning to think everyone who insisted it was Rachel fell for the shows framing rather than their own eyes.
@vins1979 19 күн бұрын
I TOTALLY agree. Monica has such elegant features and looks. Rachel is just an average cheerleader.
@harleen222 17 күн бұрын
Are we not seeing the irony of trying to pinpoint the most gorgeous or ”best face” out of these groups of women once again? 😳 I do agree with the OP that beauty is in the eye of the beholder though and that is why these responses don’t make much sense to me. Literally all of the women mentioned in the video are beyond gorgeous! 🥰
@vins1979 17 күн бұрын
@@harleen222 nobody is trying to pinpoint anything here. If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, each beholder may express their opinion.
@LaLayla99 20 күн бұрын
Has it really changed, though? Nearly every younger actress in tv and movies still appears as though theyre hotter than anyone else regardless of their character type
@xensonar9652 20 күн бұрын
I'd say Rachael edged out in front because of her character. Hotness is more than just being pretty. It's the way you hold yourself. Monica and Phoebe were more oddball archetypes. Rachael was a mess, but in a more relatable down-to-earth way.
@NotAnotherKuromi 20 күн бұрын
This is amusing because I always found Rachel so unrelateable. I do agree that Monica and Phoebe were both written to be more quirky which is often on the opposite end of sexy for a lot of people.
@xensonar9652 20 күн бұрын
@@NotAnotherKuromi I dunno, I found her quite sweet and warm, and easy to root for. She has more of a character arc than the others. Monica was prickly, set in her ways, and hard to live with - that was the joke. Phoebe was Phoebe, an almost child-like pixie, and is a whole alternative lifestyle choice.
@beanl 20 күн бұрын
That's what the video said..
@kalakings3358 20 күн бұрын
Oh brother
@unionunicorn6776 19 күн бұрын
Also Rachel played the “damsel in distress” role right from episode 1, and some men want to think of themselves as heroes that swoop in and save the day, so that’s why they’re more attracted to her too.
@Anthonycheesman33 20 күн бұрын
There’s always going to be someone hooter taller and better than you
@Someone-dq4zt 20 күн бұрын
I remember whenever I was watching friends with my dad he’d always say Monica is hot and I always found her the most striking even tho Rachel and Phoebe are gorgeous too
@NotAnotherKuromi 20 күн бұрын
I agree with your dad, I am glad to see the Monica appreciation here
@NotAnotherKuromi 20 күн бұрын
When do you think they left the "hot one" behind? You used a clip from Riverdale which was not that long ago, Euphoria has the hot one, a lot of modern media continues this trope.
@unionunicorn6776 19 күн бұрын
I’m sick of this trope because I do not have female friends because of it. I’ve been singled out and “picked” when I didn’t want to be, and that upset my female “friends.” I wish I could form friendships with women who aren’t threatened by the way men treat me, because I literally *cannot control it!!* I envy the kind of female friendships in shows like Friends because I would love to meet people who I didn’t get a sense were secretly competing with me, but rather who actually had my back and wanted the best for me. If you have those kind of friends, never take them for granted. You are truly blessed to have good people in your life. ❤
@parisbeyk 18 күн бұрын
You can definitely meet women who don’t complete with you! Trust me they’re out there ❤
@Sendmetothesky 11 күн бұрын
sweet comment
@FoundSheep-AN 8 күн бұрын
Try to watch some pretty girl privilege videos and befriend only other super hit super pretty girls
@novaste1238 7 күн бұрын
I understand. Sending love x hope you find that genuine female friendship soon ❤
@LillyBelle951 20 күн бұрын
having bridgerton on here when the concept of the diamond is the regency era version of "the hot girl" is wild.
@KatieLHall-fy1hw 20 күн бұрын
Right?!
@yundorphin 20 күн бұрын
That's something that exists in the world of the story, but the framing of the show doesn't have to express approval of that. In fact, with context in mind, of the two sisters they chose, the love interest was the "less desirable" one by that world's standards.
@LillyBelle951 19 күн бұрын
@yundorphin edwina's stock plummets after she jilts anthony because people aren't sure if he wanted to call it off or if she did. it was implied both then and before when anthony wanted to call off the wedding that HE couldn't call it off because it would lessen her value in the eyes of society. her apparent value only rose once more after the queen implies that an even more eligible gentleman, a prince nonetheless, could possibly want her. this was seen by both the show and the audience as a triumphant moment for her with fans still hoping she married the prince. the framing may not express approval entirely (although it does in many ways) but it definitely doesn't express disapproval.
@alyzu4755 20 күн бұрын
As a woman who has some seriously attractive friends, I can say that I'm glad not to be "the hot one". Too many people give them a lot of attention for their appearance and completely miss the amazing, wonderful, funny, smart and kind women they are.
@little_kid_lover_ 20 күн бұрын
I always thought monica was the hottest one! I was surprised that everyone treated rachel as the hottest one. Apparently during filming, however, David and Matthew did have crushes on Jen!
@NotAnotherKuromi 20 күн бұрын
I always thought Monica was the hottest one too but it seemed like everyone else said it was Rachel. I am surprised by this comment section saying it wasn't as rare an opinion as I thought.
@RachelSpicyG 19 күн бұрын
That’s because being hot (IMO) is what you exude also. Courteney has the best facial features in the Friends cast, but it’s not enough to necessarily make her hot. She doesn’t give off that vibe, on or off screen. Jennifer’s got the charms, just a bigger appeal overall, and I guess that’s why so many men want to date her and so many women want to look like her.
@ZZ-qy5mv 19 күн бұрын
I'm still suprised people think Jennifer Aniston is so hot considering how I don't see other women looking like her get called hot (besides being blonde.) I don't mean that she's ugly, but people used to drooool over Jen A. She looks in-the-ball-park like Kristen Wiig. I love Kristen Wiig and think she's pretty in her way, but people do not act like Kristen Wiig is super hot. I've seen a lot of comments on women with softer jawlines than her get called a man. I'm just confused by public opinion and how inconsistent they can be.
@rejectionisprotection4448 19 күн бұрын
@@RachelSpicyGOh yes THAT hairstyle!
@Anansi__ 10 күн бұрын
@@ZZ-qy5mvIn my opinion Jennifer looks nothing like Kristen Wiig in terms of physical appearance. Not that Kristen isn’t pretty but Jen’s definitely prettier, nothing to do with the shape of her jaw, which is in fact prominent but not in a distracting way
@kalakings3358 20 күн бұрын
It also is a way to say "look we have diversity!!!" when they finally add a woman of color. When it's just hyper sexual, sassy and spunky character that traps women of color in a cartoonish character that is supposed to be next to do "sweet girl" who is often white, skinny and blonde.
@Pingpinhpinh 9 күн бұрын
What’s the problem with being white ? Lmao
@kalakings3358 9 күн бұрын
@@Pingpinhpinh oh brother 🙄
@samf.s.7731 20 күн бұрын
You're right in that a lot of Jen's screen time revolved around her on and off relationship with David Schwimmer's Ross, which dwindles compared to Courtney's and Lisa's. I liked it when Rachel's family members were on, and she comes off very well rounded when that happens and not "the hot one". Definitely not that way...
@kadesmith3054 18 күн бұрын
When we look at the hot girl, we only notice things on the surface, like her ability to attract men, but we fail to see the downside. While it may be flattering to have men gawk at you, it can also be disturbing, because you have no idea of the kind of attention you are attracting. The lovers of the hot girl love to control her and she is seen more as an object to her boyfriend/husband than a companion. Once Ross got with Rachel he was controlling, always belittled her for pursuing a career in fashion and in the end she gave up her dream career in Paris to be with Ross, while Monica and Phoebe ended up with supportive spouses. Marilyn Monroe divorced Jo DiMaggio after he beat her, it was said that he could not handle the pressure of being married to the pinup girl, Monroe’s next husband, Arthur Miller called her a horrible actress and a slut. As much as they try to glamorize this trope, there is tragedy on the other end.
@zyaicob 19 күн бұрын
You guys are missing one important thing. This isn't about the difference between effortlesely hot and pretty but not hot, it's about universal appeal vs more specific appeal.
@xtraspecialmango 20 күн бұрын
I didn’t notice it when I was younger….But Monica as Catwoman!? Good Lord!! 🤯
@insulaarachnid 19 күн бұрын
I was caught off guard by the inclusion of the MISFITS clips, I love that series!
@salamander8301 19 күн бұрын
Searching back on friends and I'm blown away by Phoebe's beauty, the high cheek bones, pretty almond eyes and oval face . But we were told to focus on Rachel because she had the most white sentric features
@isabellaleite3155 18 күн бұрын
Exactly
@kathryn8543 16 күн бұрын
I think P&P is a bad example to use. Because Jane isn't the 'special' one, she isn't the protagonist or main love object of the story, Lizzie is, who is less pretty. It isn't an example of the 'hot one' trope but actually subverting it where Austen is saying that a woman's personality, spirit and intelligence is more important in making her interesting and finding her 'love' than her looks are. And this sentiment is repeated throughout her books, except for Emma (who would be a better example of the hot one trope between her and harriet - but also a criticism of it), the protagonist or main love object is never the prettiest in the room, it is more about her character and mind that attracts her love interest. more progressive than most stories today! The fact that it is Lizzie saying it to Jane without any jealousy also shows how the sister's don't have that cliche jealousy for each other, appreciate and can compliment each other, and that Lizzie isn't worried at all about being the 'prettiest' - even if her pride is hurt when Darcy calls her ugly, so we know she at least likes to be considered nice looking (who doesn't), this never results in a competition between women
@sarahhollister150 20 күн бұрын
I never took Rachel as being hot. She just looks like the girl next door
@samf.s.7731 20 күн бұрын
Jen has that, both in terms of looks and personality. She's hot for sure, but not in the way where she looks like she won't be your best friend.
@NotAnotherKuromi 20 күн бұрын
I think that's why a lot of people liked, she seems attainable for men and not too intimidating for women (assuming straightness and norms obviously.)
@frankinsaneandmyrrh1202 19 күн бұрын
yeah, I saw an old interview saying Jen had that warm quality that made her lovable and desirable and even though Courtney was beautiful she had more of a cold beauty which didn't put her in that light. not a fan of these descriptions or comparisons, but there you have it I guess.
@amazzonkane 19 күн бұрын
It’s a nonthreatening, approachable kind of hot.
@Pingpinhpinh 9 күн бұрын
She was married to the Brad Pitt ? That kind of status only put her on the map more
@paulojrneto 19 күн бұрын
One who could make the case that Joey is the hot one from the three male Friends. Although we know he has other qualities, Joey's main point of desirability is his attractiveness and while Ross and Chandler are handsome, good catches and date a lot too, they have other points that seem to "lower down" their desirability (Chandler is uptight and sardonic, Ross is neurotic and conceited). Not to mention that Matt LeBlanc fits more the conventionally attractive mold than Matthew Perry and David Schwimmer and his previous roles leaned more into the "hot guy" role than the other two.
@SaunterVaguelyDown 19 күн бұрын
Wasn't expecting these Skins & Misfits scenes. Someone on your team must be in their 30s & a fan of British TV.
@Davey007 16 күн бұрын
Well done sneaking that ad in there, with the food angle. Completely caught me off guard 😂
@hardcandy9880 19 күн бұрын
But Rachel was never really portrayed as the hot one as much as the video implies. She's the pampered rich girl. The hot one in the group is Joey. But okay I get that the Take wants to focus on women for this topic, so they had to pick Rachel. That kinda shows maybe Friends is not the best series to pick a female example of the "hot one" because, again, that wasnt Rachel's main trope.
@SuperNovaJinckUFO 19 күн бұрын
It's funny, I never perceived any of the friends girls as more attractive than one another. If anything, I found it refreshing that they were all sort of on the same level.
@celestialcircledance 20 күн бұрын
All things being equal the brunette is usually not going to be pegged as the hot one which could be another reason that Megan got knocked down a peg in favor of Rachel .
@amazzonkane 19 күн бұрын
I don’t think being brunette counts against her in this case. I think a lot of it is the framing by the show, plus the character’s personality and perceived charisma. If anything, she’s a striking contrast and visually stands out next to the others lighter features. It may not have been as common I’ve seen some examples in older media, where brunettes are The Hot One. -Archie Comics has rich brunette city girl Veronica favored over sweet blonde, small-town Betty. -Mary Tyler Moore on The Mary Tyler Moore Show is portrayed as more desirable than “frumpy” Rhoda largely due to her being approachable to the point of getting taken advantage of for favors and sitcom shenanigans. -Lois Lane was one of the first superhero love interests. -There’s a movie where brunette Joan Collins is the hot, threatening love interest over the blonde “frumpy” housewife. I keep seeing clips on Facebook of a scene where the jealous wife, in tears, slaps Joan Collins who isn’t even phased and shoots her an “I already won” smile. - Agent 99 in Get Smart is a rare example of being framed as both hot AND smart - Even in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, brunette Dorothy is not actually portrayed as any less attractive. She just doesn’t play the part of the hot girl the way Lorelei (Marilyn) does. Dorothy gets just as much attention, and the attention she does get is often actually better quality. Nowadays, we’re refusing to be limited to The Smart One or The Hot One. We can be both.
@destinychild4659 18 күн бұрын
@@amazzonkaneBut most of the time 'hot' one is blond. 🙄
@Na-du9fs 18 күн бұрын
Sometimes, it is our bodies chemistry. Let’s be honest even we as women, some men just make us feel in strong chemistry once we meet compared to others. And we regularly find women in love with that man and less with other men. Regardless of looks.
@user-sr2xf9ic1v 20 күн бұрын
Can you do a Take on the 'Black Best Friend' trope?
@Alannameyers 20 күн бұрын
Or the “token black character”
@heloisemiltat5910 20 күн бұрын
Or « anyone from diversity » best friend
@Pinkladyisv 19 күн бұрын
They actually do have that I’m pretty sure.
@SheaMF 19 күн бұрын
I seem to remember watching something on that topic, but quite a while back.
@heloisemiltat5910 19 күн бұрын
I remember having seen the Quirky Black Friend and the Best Friend Trope, but not this topic
@Lime1958 19 күн бұрын
9:51 Maybe im just blind but I've always thought Monica was the hottest among the 3. I thought Rachel was suppose to he the ditzy but loving trope. I think this essay need to ask of rachel is hot accdng to the female gaze or the male gaze.
@epbrown01 14 күн бұрын
Hot is most often just about wardrobe. To make SMG the hot one on Buffy, they had to keep Allison Hannigan dressed as a giant toddler. I don’t think they started pushing Aniston as the hot one until she got “The Rachel,” which came with short skirts and tight sweaters.
@frankinsaneandmyrrh1202 19 күн бұрын
3:52 that was so relatable it almost hurt
@AS-kf1ol 18 күн бұрын
There were so many ensemble cast shows back then. This type of extreme fixation on Friends really undermines what was going on back then. Friends only became big through syndication and eventually global viewership. But global viewers have no idea all the other media that was present at the time. As always when it comes to American media they get what we give them.
@Liusila 12 күн бұрын
Oddly, in reality groups of people will also try and enforce who of the group is to be defined as attractive or not, regardless of what they themselves think or what the minority in the group think independently too.
@asmita2318 18 күн бұрын
I always thought Monica was the hot one. I would literally not let my eyes off her. Also it is speculated that Courtney was supposed to play as Rachel (because courtney is hot and the character Rachel is supposed to be hot) but later she said she wanted to play Monica because she thought she could play Monica better.
@malvavisco10 19 күн бұрын
Lisa’s character Ursula was portrayed a lot more as a hot girl on Mad About You (of course this character later crossed over to Friends but was a lot more exaggerated at that point)
@Elizalustof 20 күн бұрын
It’s all how men see you - and if women are jealous of you.
@narayaniangulo9456 10 күн бұрын
The thing is that being hot is about attitude. You can be pretty but some women just don't have the sex appeal or flirty personality to display being the hot one... That's why some girls get more attention than others despite being beautiful and with rachel and monica the thing that set them apart was personality, monica was too uptight to be the hot friend
@ALuiza-pm2dp 17 күн бұрын
it's funny that clips of Riverdale showed up cuz even before they did, I thought of the redhead -- not sure what her name was since I only saw a few episodes, a long time ago. She isn't shown in the clips but it was hilarious to me that in the cheerleader tryouts or whatever, Veronica's dance thing is supposed to be better than the one the redhead did 😂 as a dancer myself, Veronica's was a bit painful to watch, while the other girl owned it. So even when the directors and story try to force "the hot one" on us, we as the audience can't help but laugh in the face of it
@CriticalCulture 19 күн бұрын
Marnie Michaels from Girls is one of my favorite subversions of this trope
@jumanakilani5173 8 күн бұрын
i think its the stereotype of the blonde being the "bombshell" and it wasnt phoebe because she was seen as the "simple" more comical character, but i do think monica is stunning
@semihaarslan909 16 күн бұрын
Hey, i love your Videos. And i wanted to ask you If you could also do like a: the psychology of Blair Waldorf? Because she is Like sooo iconic. That would be SO Great.
@morbidsearch 9 күн бұрын
I remember thinking it was totally unrealistic when every male character in a TV show would get attracted to the same woman. That was before I met my present day best friend, who gets hit on by every guy she knows, and my gay ass is like "What does everyone see in her?"
@DMMA0726 7 күн бұрын
As someone not a part of the target audience of this show I found none of these people attractive as a kid and still don't (to me). Which is the reminder of how subjective manufactured beauty ideals are.
@---fi2ml 6 күн бұрын
People commenting who they found most attractive of the female leads are missing the point in a hilarious way Its funny if you watch interviews with the fans in the studio audience when the show was originally filmed. The rachel love is kind of on another level frim the male fans haha
@MelanieLaporte1111 16 күн бұрын
I love the series footage from the series Misfits.
@WynnWynn-gl3fk 3 күн бұрын
I never got why Jen was considered so much hotter and cooler than everyone else.
@Patterner 19 күн бұрын
for a long time i thought i was broken because i never favored the "hot one". and i like glasses. and Courteney Cox will always be the One From Misfits O' Science.
@BB25_25 19 күн бұрын
Female characters today are far worse than they were before, relationships and connections are the most important factors of our lives so telling ppl they can be fulfilled through shallow sex and work etc in the same way is a lie for most ppl.
@samfilmkid 20 күн бұрын
I feel like you guys made this video, like, three times already
@koalaeucalyptus 11 күн бұрын
I love the irony that they flipped the idea of girls fighting for the love interest and made the guys have those situations instead! When we think about it, it's funny and a nice twist
@cuteotter2165 19 күн бұрын
All three are beautiful but Monica was just stunning.
@loliviaify 9 күн бұрын
Extremely random question but what is the song playing at 2:38? Is it a royalty free track?
@robchuk4136 19 күн бұрын
Them all being attractive on Friends was why singling out Rachel was funny. I preferred Monica myself, but she didn't have a hairstyle named after her, which pretty much seals the deal. Women saw Rachel as the hottest of the trio just as much as men, because I'll tell you a secret: Guys don't care about hairstyles that much to make it a fad. This video doesn't talk enough about the pride in being The Hot One, and how there can be ownership in that. I think of Sex and the City (really surprised it didn't get a mention), where The Hot One was obviously Samantha. And in secret agent stories like Charlie's Angels, playing up being the Hot One in the group even helps with missions. And from the male perspective, Templeton "Face" Peck from The A-Team is literally this. (Played by Bradley Cooper in the film adaptation, also arguably "The Hot One" of the friends in the Hangover movies). So sure, everybody's beautiful in their own way, and sunshine and rainbows and kumbaya yada yada. But flattening this all out has certainly been one of the contributors to media being a lot more boring to watch and talk about, that's for sure. So let's get down to it: Saved by the Bell- The Hot One: Kelly Kapowski. Three's Company- The Hot One: Chrissy The Brady Bunch- The Hot One: Marcia. Literally drives Jan nuts! Totally Spies!- The Hot One: Clover (I don't make the rules) The Fellowship of the Ring- The Hot One: Legolas. See? A League of Their Own- The Hot One: Madonna's on the team... The Take- The Hot One: ??
@leapintothewild 18 күн бұрын
Poo-poo Madonna --- Geena Davis is the hot one in any room she walks into!
@tatjana7008 9 күн бұрын
I lived in Eastern European country and because I'm Asian, I never have been considered attractive by majority of men and all women. Therefore I could have female friends, because they seen me as no threat. Some of my "friends" even were surprised when men liked me more than them and assumed they have some yellow fever. After moving to Germany, that changed because there is no such thing like "German women are most beautiful in the world". Some women are not eager to be friends with me, since I'm above average Asian for them.Worst was when I studied computer science, and female students were never talked with me because I was surrounded by many male students
@sorafanchick 4 күн бұрын
If you think about a show that really broke the trope, It would be Living Single.
@charlyotte11 18 күн бұрын
My favourite (also looks wise) was Phoebe, although I found them all beautiful
@gabrielhall9099 18 күн бұрын
Hi I wonder if you can talk about the characters from the tv show Lost? 1 by 1 Like you did with the characters from Friends
@emanym 20 күн бұрын
Television doesn’t need a hot one, but it does need hotties because that puts men in buying moods and that’s what everything is about under capitalism.
@RiniDiamandis 16 күн бұрын
omh alisha from misfits i love her smm
@M4RI4TIGER 19 күн бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I don’t think she’s all that tbh.
@sophiab5260 17 күн бұрын
I always found Monica more attractive…
@certifiedweeb3720 9 күн бұрын
Can you guys please do a video on Heartbreak High series (2022)? It's got interesting characters and addresses sensitive topics among teenagers.
@QueenBee2314 19 күн бұрын
I always thought Courtney Cox was gorgeous and was confused by why Monica wasnt the hot one, lol!
@vins1979 19 күн бұрын
In Beverley Hills there were TWO hot girls: Brenda and Kelly. Then, in a rather unexplicable turn, screenwriters started to make Donna as the hot girl. And this had nothing to do with the fact that Tory Spelling was the producer's daughter.
@destinychild4659 18 күн бұрын
I see Rachel the 'cute 'one, especially if we compare her to some really gorgeous actresses. Jennifer is beautiful, but not the way that takes you breath away.
@shibu2935 13 күн бұрын
This was an interesting video and might just change society's perception for the positive
@MonikaOum 20 күн бұрын
lol how/why does this perfectly describe the dynamic of my female 'friendships' in middle school/high school? 😅😬👀👉👈
@SilenceSilver 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for pointing out that whilst Friends has some outdated jokes that simply don't fly anymore and it's a very cis white straight cast... it broke ground with it's female and male characters in other ways. Like challenging female roles of "hot", "house-wife" or "weirdo"... And how supportive and LOVING the male characters are with each other - a stark contrast to the way masculinity is usually portrayed, which causes more harm than good as men bottle their emotions and isolate themselves which leads to a sad reality of the biggest source of mortality of young males being suicide. Friends did a lot of good for the time it was created, and that's why I, a 90s kid, love it as much as I do.
@Somelikeitthrift 15 күн бұрын
I miss this trope
@origami6479 4 күн бұрын
What make me laugh is that if girls are supposed being unable to be really friends with other girls because of jealousy, but also unable to befriend men because of hOrNiNesS, my next question is : who are we suppose to befriend with then ? Are we supposed to hang out with non binary people only?
@sharonbalbina825 9 күн бұрын
Just wanted to say....Phoebe with the wavy hair ❤
@badaboum2 14 күн бұрын
As far as Friends is concerned, one of the main creative forces in the show was a woman. Marta Kaufman was a (co-)creator, showrunner, writer, executive producer and casting director of the show.
@tatjana7008 9 күн бұрын
If she was a minority, she wouldn't have much say and power in it. I experienced this many times, it gives illusion of inclusion but overruled by majority
@nightlove5642 15 күн бұрын
Not everyone in this coment section still arguing about who the hot one is.😂😂
@eucalypso 10 күн бұрын
Idk they were all gorgeous to me. I always saw Monica as the most beautiful
@Mel-xk9go 11 күн бұрын
Phoebe is the best character but unfortunately She does not correspond to the beauty standard of society so she is forgotten while Rachel who is very beautiful (no one can say the opposite) will be more highlighted while she is the worst character in the show and that’s unfair.
@jahajahai6204 11 күн бұрын
what is the series from 11:26?
@romigoletto 9 күн бұрын
which show is 2:14 ? thanks
@Rosekushhh 17 күн бұрын
its just styling mostly
@Missmagazinebura 17 күн бұрын
Why do they make some of the hot one kill people like in gossip girl Serena believes she killed some one and Alison dilaurentis pushed Ian in the bell tower . He could have died .
@lar9299 11 күн бұрын
In summary: Rachel, Monica and Phoebe are hot and amazing ❤❤❤
@roxanapop1557 15 күн бұрын
I always saw Phoebe as the most beautiful (funnily enough especially in the episode where the scientist guy leaves, she looks simply magical). But beautiful and hot are nor necessarily the same. I would say Rachel is the hottest/sexiest one. And I would describe Monica as pretty. But of course, I am affected by watching the show many times. As other people here in the comments have said, I think hottness is more than just facial features, it's how you carry yourself.
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 19 күн бұрын
Out of the Friends cast, I always thought Monica was the most beautiful in every way. Rachel was too irritating to be attractive and Phoebe was sweet but too weird.
@tykotate9346 18 күн бұрын
Most people I knew thought Monica was physically more attractive but her character was neurotic so maybe less appealling.
@JSulikowska 14 күн бұрын
I think all three girls Rachel, Monica and Phoebe great looked. Rachel has princess beauty, she has adorable face. I think many pepole thinks she is stunning. But I saw comments too she is average. Monica has more elegant beauty. I don’t saw opinion Monica is ugly. I think Monica has look more affordable to everyone. I think that Aniston „was icon” to apperance. Maybe because too she was a few yeras younger than Cox and Kudrow. Phoebe has orginal apperance, and she has sunny beauty
@booklover466 2 күн бұрын
I thought Monica was the most beautiful one!
@elisabeth4342 17 күн бұрын
In order to be THE 'hot one,' doesn't an EFFORTLESSLY lean, but voluptuous, and strong hourglass shape COUNT BIGTIME when you're in your teens and twenties (your prime years)?? I'd argue that if you have to watch how much you eat or if you're too thin or overweight as a teen or twentysomething, then you can't be considered "hot." A important part of legitimately being considered 'hot' is having an effortlessly sexy bod. That is great genetics, and more special.
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