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Personelly I hate the moment when Magneto got rid of Mystique. That was so out of character and it makes Magneto a pure villain.Ite would be much more intersting if he took care of her.

They forced in two different major plotlines (cure, phoenixsaga), they changed directors, they rushed it and it was just a cash grab. Too much focus on Wolverine. Killed off major characters. No character development. Botched the whole Phoenix mythos (She was automatically evil and it was a latent ability suppressed in her instead of an outside force that took over her body)

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In these movies if you aren't Wolverine or Magneto, you are a action figure. You have barely any character, you have no depth, you are there to fill the scene

Personally, I couldn't stand the goth band that Magneto recruited. Especially the porcupine douche who could only kill you through a hug.

You mean 'The Hugh Jackman's: Wolverine' movies. Those movies weren't about the X-Men, the just had some X-men in them.

I think the real problem with it is was essentially trying to be two different movies at the same time. a movie about the cure, and a movie about the Phoenix. both of these are great concepts, but in trying to do them both at the same time, both of them took away from each other to the point that neither of them felt properly developed. the problem with the cure storyline was that it seemed irrelevant to most of the characters. the majority of them just immediately brush it off and deal with other things for the rest of the movie. Wolverine, Storm and Xavier are all dealing with the Phoenix, and Bobby and Kitty are dealing with their relationship. the only main characters who are dealing with the cure are Magneto and Rogue, so it just ends up feeling like an afterthought. the problem with the Phoenix storyline is that it feels extremely rushed. they don't take time to build up her transformation like in other interpretations, she just pretty much goes completely insane right off the bat. because of this and the lack of screen time, they don't really explore her internal struggle at all. they have an interesting dilemma set up in the question of weather or not Charles did the right thing with Jean, but they kill him off right after so that can't be explored. Storm becomes a leader in the end, but she never rejects the idea of it in the beginning when Xavier brings it up, so it doesn't feel like any major growth for her character. the only character arcs that I liked were those of Wolverine and Magneto.

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The Juggernaut line wasn't dated at the time. Those videos were still a pretty big part of the pre-KZfaq internet when this movie came out. This movie is not great and my only vivid memory of it is the audience actually cheering at the juggernaut line.

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Can I just say that 90% of the time I hear "compromise" in the middle of the production of a movie that I already begin to worry? I think you hit the nail on the head with the thing about Phoenix vs. Mutant cure. The movie should have been one or the other, the mixture just ended up being a problem.

There is so much wrong with this movie. But what stays with me most is how totally stupid and contrived the last battle was. If Magneto can lift the Golden Gate Bridge, he should have just dropped it on Alcatraz.

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The Last Stand was a masterpiece compared to Wolverine Origins.

Hmm...didn't know about the studio's take on this. Actually "the cure" being the focus of the movie and leaving Dark Phoenix out might have made X3 much better.

No talk of Kelsey Grammer's Beast?! I don't care what anyone says, I think that was perfect casting!! I loved it!

Its interesting to note that bryan singer would have had cyclops blame himself for the death of jean and build the danger room to train the x-men and become their leader

Nobody at Fox gets the X-Men at all. They have no respect for any the characters. Rogue is a useless brat. Storm is miscast and one dimensional. Angel is a non entity. Scott is wasted, which is a shame because his relationship with Jean is a huge part of the X-Men story. And honestly, Last Stand isn't even the worse entry in the series. That honor goes to Apocalypse

No cap, neither the A4 or FFH trailer has came out.

I think the best thing about X3 is Kelsey Grammer as Beast

"I remember seeing this in the movie theater with my dad when I was 13." STOP MAKING ME FEEL OLD.

Well probably the absence of Bryan Singer is one of the Major Factors.

the biggest problem with the X men films was the lack of X men i stoped watching the films after they started to dry hump logans leg so much that nobody else got to do anything hell they made what 3 separate wolverine solo films

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For me, I hate this movie. It was the first film I remembered having a thought of “Wait, something is not right”, which started with Cyclops dying (that part I will never get over still because Cyclops is one of my favorite characters ever and him getting the axe unceremoniously made me upset). But I also didn’t like how most of the characters, with the exception of Beast who I thought was perfect and the best part about that movie, were shafted or ignored, as well as certain storylines were more focused on than others, which made it an uneven experience. I know there’s worse movies out there, but I remember this as the first big movie that made me feel a great sense of disappointment and frustration. But on a positive note, I loved Beast, most of the performances are solid, the action sequences were good, particularly the final battle, there are some good scenes in it, and the score composed by John Powell was fantastic. But even with the good stuff, I still feel a sense of sadness and anger that I cannot shake 😞

The Last Stand is like the ultimate movie everybody hates that I actually really like. I especially found the concept of The Cure and how individual characters reacted to it really interesting. And the "I'm The Juggernaut, BITCH!" scene? Hilarious. Besides, this film changed my life in that it got me interested in The X-Men which got me interested in comic in general, so I've always felt a bit of fondness for this one. A guilty pleasure for sure, but one that always puts a smile on my face.

Man, I love how you intercut those old commercials in your videos. Takes me back to my childhood.

Not sure if you were aware, but Brett Ratner only took over as director about 3 months before shooting after Matthew Vaughn bailed at the last moment (weird that he ended up doing First Class five years later!)...Cut Ratner some slack, then, since he was taking over someone else’s movie as, essentially, a hired gun

X3 isn't even the worst X-Men movie anymore. That "honor" goes to X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE and X-MEN: APOCALYPSE.

-I'm Juggernaut, Bitch!!! -Yeah...BUT HE IS CAPTAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN MIDNIGHT!!!! It was regular to bad the movie...i ejoyed it but it was a lot dissapointing.

I personally love x men the last stand.. despite the obvious flaws: Scott summers death, the juggernaut, not bringing back Nightcrawler... but overall I disagree that they focused too much on wolverine...there was great focus with storm, bobby, magneto, and pretty much all the rest... this really felt like an x men movie above all else

A single movie on either the cure storyline or the Pheonix storyline would be amazing. I know the next movie is supposedly the Pheonix story, but it seems it'll go similarly to The Last Stand; the producers don't understand/ have faith in the source material, and so will water it down to fit with the tone of their universe.

this entire movie was basically a huge mistake

I don't get a good feeling about Dark Phoenix either.

One of my main issues with this movie was how the X-Men don’t really have any meaningful conversations about the cure save for that one moment between Rogue and Wolverine. Sure we know that Storm is against the cure, but she never elaborates on why. It was also disappointing how Cyclops was dead at that point as him maybe wanting to take the cure could give him some depth. Really such a huge impact on the mutant community should’ve been discussed more amongst the team.

It would've made more sense if X3 was divided into 2 parts. James Marsden did left with Singer to do Superman Returns. So it wasn't Bryan Singer's Fault.

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3:57 It's rare to see the production company in Hollywood right today. But if the Fox really think the cure story line should be the main focus. I think it will be far better than the last stand we got.

In defense of Brett Ratner, he didn't really direct this movie...he had to direct what was left of it...most of it was done...plus there were sequences that he didn't want but the studio told him they were already budgeted for and had to be in the movie...so it's not 100% his vision...he was working under serious time constraints as well and wasn't given enough time to focus and really take over...😊🙏 Great videos and great channel...Thank you Captain Midnight👏👏👏

"I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!" I remember my entire theater erupting with laughter at that line. It was also the first time (in my memory) that a mainstream movie outwardly acknowledged a meme, which still kind of blows my mind to this day. It's not a *great* movie and has a ton of problems, but it was a decent popcorn flick at the time. Now, more than ten years after the fact, it's easier to go back and see the beginning of a transition in superhero movies. Love the video...

There's a lot of problems we could all bat back and forth about the X-Men movies, starting with the lack of X-Men (they're Wolverine movies, essentially, until they become Jennifer Lawrence movies. Wolverine's far from my favorite character; I have no problem with him being a prominent character, I have no problem giving him a solo movie - he's got an interesting and rich backstory - and Hugh Jackman seems like a genuinely good dude, but there are so many other interesting and diverse characters who should also be featured, like Gambit and Cyclops and Colossus and Storm. Nightcrawler and Rogue. And of course Jean Grey would headline the Dark Phoenix saga, which should be hard to fuck up. Jennifer LawrenceM/Mystique, on the other hand... look, mileage may vary with regards to J Law, but Mystique just isn't that prominent an X-Men character. She shouldn't be part of the founding of the team, she shouldn't be a team leader. She's a secondary character. No shade if you like her, I'm not saying she's not interesting - or has the potential to be - but making her a leader is like making Deadpool a leader; it'd be fucking stupid. And it was.) BUT... my biggest gripe is how they wasted Cyclops. He's far from my favorite X-Men character, but he's in this category of boy-scout heroes that get shit on too much, because lame people think they're "boring" (Superman, Captain America, Cyclops, etc). And we all see how well a charming, earnest, genuinely good dude like Chris Evans embodied Cap in a way that made him a much more popular hero. I have no doubt that James Marsden could've done the same with Cyclops. He just wasn't given a chance, and that's a bummer. I think someone will eventually get the X-Men right, but Marsden won't ever be given an X-Men script worthy of him.

I knew in advance they weren't going to be able to do justice to the Dark Phoenix story, so I wasn't disappointed overall. But apathy turned to anger when the remaining X-Men were assembling for the final battle and it was _Wolverine_ who delivered the pep talk. Storm was the obvious choice to take over as leader; Professor X even said so at the beginning of the movie. Making her an appendage to Wolverine was criminal.

2:00 omg I have that Wolverine toy, in fact I had two of them lmao

Frasier was awesome as Beast.

Yeah, even Deadpool 2 resisted the “I’m the Juggernaut b****” joke, and that’s saying something!

I have ragged on Ratner in the past and have been reminded by other people that he was a pinch hitter brought in to cover Matthew Vaughn's departure and doesn't deserve all the blame for how hilariously badly TLS turned out so I'm glad you covered this in the essay.

If I may add, movie culture was different back then. All you needed to satisfy the geek fanbase during X-Men 1's release was to get the actor casting right. As superhero movies were released again and again, so did the fanbase begin to expect better plot. This is one of the reasons why the MCU was a success, they made a gamble that the future of superhero movies were in well-made plots and intriguing storylines. The fanbase wanted to evolve as an audience, as well as be entertained. This is what the MCU provided.

The moment I heard that name, I can remember Rogue did a Thanos thing all the soldiers and mutants at the prison island and how it terrified me as a kid. That woman was bloody deadly when in anger mode

I don't know why but the "I'm the Juggernaut, Bitch!" line always makes me laugh

I think one idea that could have made the cure storyline work is maybe instead of the Dark Phoenix, introduce the Sentinel storyline instead on how they ended up taking over the world. I read a guy’s post on reddit on how the cure could have been enforced by the Sentinel robots that hunt down mutants and they would have made more effective soldiers and weapons than the humans. But here is a few ideas that could have made this a true trilogy ender. Have Magneto’s mindset from X-2 of killing all humans still be here, or at least let him come to a realization that that maybe at the end of the day he is going to have to kill all of humanity in order to keep the mutants safe from them. For at least 2 movies tensions between mutants and humans were growing, but here it could have been at an all time high, or just finally exploded in terms of tension, leading to the most epic battle yet. I mean the reason I say this, is that when Magneto moved the bridge to the island, why did he spared the human family in there? Is it because its possible they are mutants? Does he still have some sympathy for humans when he is at war with them? Does he have a no kids killing rule? Whatever the fuck that is?!!!!!!!! Yes he knows lives are going to be lost, but this also goes to his attack on the island, if there were any humans still on the bridge at the time, instead of sending his forces, why not just hold the humans ransom and demand that they hand over the boy or they kill all the humans? I mean, how in the fucking hell... did he just send all of his forces, or hell just drop the bridge on the facility? Maybe its just a movie in terms of all the plot holes and everything and how we are supposed to overlook them, but there was clearly a wasted opportunity for him to show how much darker Magneto’s character has gotten over the time. Maybe his movement towards the bridge could have been more scary by having his followers kill every human on sight, or use the family as an example, just whatever the fuck they decided to send the “pawns” first, was just stupid when they clearly had other chances to do this. Hell, if he truly did abandoned Mystique and she ratted him out or what not, well then why not have her confront Magneto again before the battle, and then perhaps she says something about his army and how she and them, and even Magneto are still “human”. What I mean is in this case, that they still show kindness towards others, how she got to see life from the other side that she never got to in a very long time, and how she has finally came to realized that what she was doing with Magneto and his plans was just wrong, and that it wasn’t the way to do it, and that they ended up harming a lot more people then they helped, and that his way will only mean the end of his kind. They truly didn’t want war. Other parts can be mentioned that everyone of them is still human in one way or another, they still have moral grounds, they can still get sick, they can still die. They aren’t immortal, and they aren’t gods. They are only mutants because they have some sort of special powers that makes them just more powerful, but they aren’t unbeatable. The X-Men knows that, and they are fighting for the same cause, for all of humans and mutants to co-exist (this would all be against her character, but if she is human, this could give her more motivation for a redemption moment), and if he wants to destroy that, then Magneto needs to kill her, as she will stand in his way, no matter what happens. I mean, a moment that could have challenge Magneto and his followers as they are still human technically, but it would also lead to Magneto’s most evil moment of all. He realizes that he is still human, along with his followers, and that Mystique has called him out on his bullshit, and perhaps because of that if he really does mean his goals, then maybe he should kill her with no remorse at all, maybe becoming a pure monster (not like mutate into creature) and state that when he destroys the cure and the X-Men, they will kill every last bit of humanity on this planet and erase their world all together because as long as humanity exist, they will always be those that will attempt to stop them, and now that they learned about their weakness, they decided to just get rid of their human side and just embrace the hatred all together, and just outright kill them all. Also, if you are going to kill Charles, make it permanent. It’s that simple. Hell, it would have given Magneto the motivation he needed or what not to go through with his plan, and being reminded of his humanity, he could even go more evil by stating that he is “glad that Charles is dead” now. Because he and him are friends and were always fighting for the same cause, and yes Magneto did some extreme things, but this had a chance to continue his actions from the X2 movie in a meaningful way. Where he reaches his breaking point with humanity.

They should've let Mystique stay a mutant throughout the movie. I hated when she lost her powers, and she should've fought alongside Magneto which could've shown a greater side of her mutant powers. I also feel that they could've explored the other mutants instead of focusing on only Wolverine.

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The first date I ever went on was to see X-Men: The Last Stand, it was so awkward, we couldn’t think of a thing to say to one another and he left several times to make phone calls. We never saw or spoke to one another much after, I would find out years later he had committed suicide and I can only assume that X-Men: The Last Stand was to blame.

Finals, eh? I'm watching this on a break from studying. I appreciate this reprieve and empathize with your scholarly struggle brother

Honestly the mutant cure plot line makes a lot more sense for this movie when you look at the story arc of the trilogy. A good adaptation of the Dark Phoenix Saga could make for an excellent film, but it really needs its own space to develop. That's a big problem with this movie overall; a whole bunch of stuff is thrown at us and not developed well or at all. Honestly, from the trailers I thought Angel was going to get full character development in this movie, and he ends up being basically dropped in as a "Look, this is a plot point!" device. By the time the movie was over I really had no connection with the character. Scott's death should have been a big deal that impacted the rest of the film, but it comes off as shrug-worthy for both the audience and the characters. Oh, and also they decided that the caring mentor Professor X that we'd grown attached to in the previous installments in the this trilogy was just going to be kind of an asshole now for no apparent reason. There are hints of what made the previous films watchable such as Rogue's difficult relationship with her mutation, but a lot of The Last Stand felt like the Michael Bay version of X-Men to me; big and noisy and empty.

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You're a bit more generous to this movie than I was. When I saw it in theaters, not knowing how the plot arcs went in the comic books, I felt like it was an okay political allegory A-plot that was hijacked by the B-plot when Dark Phoenix got upset that not enough of the story was revolving around her. I know some people swear by Jean Grey, but I just didn't like her throughout the original X-Men trilogy.

This movie should have been about Dark Phoenix only, and the mutant cure storyline should have been another movie.

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They promo'd angel to death (the website, posters, trailers, he was also wearing an x suit) but he literally only did 2 things in the movie, escape, and catch his dad.

I’m a huge movie addict Comic book geek I love ranking, making lists And The Last Stand is my favorite X-Men movie. Every time I watch it, I try to take into account what everyone says but I love it every single time.

Vinnie Jones was poorly cast as the Juggernaut. They should have gotten a wresler like they did for Sabretooth. In 2006, Bill Goldberg was jsut off of Santa's Slay, and The Longest Yard remake. And Juggernaut's muscle suit was ridiculous.

Almost two and a half years later and I _still_ think, "DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM? I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH!" holds up.

X1&2 have lost some luster with age. X3 maintained its same mediocrity.

X-Men: The Last Stand is my favorite of the original trilogy.

I still think nothing beats the moments on the bus hauling the badies.

Apparently they were gonna have sigourney Weaver be Emma Frost and manipulate Jean to use her powers for magneto and at the end jean would kill her self and evolve as “the Phoenix” as the next stage in mutant evolution which I have a problem with!

I agree with the Fox playing catch up, everybody accuses DC of rushing to the Justice League (which they were) but everyone ignores that Fox and Sony had the rights to some of the biggest comic book characters for almost 25 years and did nothing, took them the Avengers to do 1 billion and see that different characters can still.make bank for them to start announcing other projects that weren't X-Men or Spider-Man

This movie aged incredibly well. I think its better than all its successors with exception DoFP.

There’s too many good ideas in here for it to be bad, but this movie really does rush through everything. Mystique protecting Magneto from the cure only to be abandoned is an awesome scene. The deaths make the movie feel like a climactic conflict. It also plays into a terrible future that needs to be changed in DOFP. Magneto lifting the bridge is the kind of jaw dropping spectacle I want out of movies like this. Even if it isn’t the most efficient way to get his army there, this is a movie! I wanna see cool shit like that. Magneto getting cured is also a perfect way to end his trilogy storyline. It’s quite poetic even if it didn’t end up lasting. Wolverine being the only one who can withstand the Phoenix force and having to walk through her disintegrating him is one of the coolest CBM moments ever. It’s a moment that really sticks with you after the movie.

I completely dissagree with you when you said Storm had nothing to do in this movie she has a much a bigger role in this movie than she had in the last two in fact that's one of the few things Brett Ratner did right with the movie.

Hello Captain Midnight, you know what, there is another old movie trilogy that is pretty cool to review: the blade trilogy. It has it flaws, but I always think it is very unique in its time as a comic movie.

I just recently re-watched this movie, and it wasn't as bad as I remembered it. I don't have any attachment to any other version of these characters, never having read the comics and only giving the 90's animated series a go this year (2021) when I saw it was on Disney+, so I don't know anything about how these characters could have been or what storylines were missed out on. It is for sure noticeable that they wanted to do something that never happened with Jean, as she pretty much only kills Scott and the professor but otherwise does nothing until the very end, where she is dangerous for about 1 min before dying again, and the last battle is a bit over the top, but it was definitely enjoyable, and does pose some questions for the viewer considering the cure. On one hand, can you "cure" a genetic mutation? Should it be considered some kind of decease? On the other hand, does someone like Storm, who looks perfectly normal and have full control of her powers, have the right to tell someone like Rogue, who sucks the life-force out of anything she touches, not to take the cure?

Back when Synger was set to direct we were going to get Sigourney Weaver as Emma Frost. Sucks we didn't.

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Singer didn't leave X-Men high and dry. Look up Tom Rothman/Bryan Singer for more on why Singer's X-3 didn't happen. As a studio chair, Rothman caused a lot of problems at Fox concerning the X-Men. I only just discovered this info a few years back myself.

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When Disney gets round to putting the X-Men in the MCU they should wait until a third or fourth movie to recast Wolverine and Magneto. Both have been played brilliantly in the past and the former left an emotional impact on the genre that's still too fresh. They should instead make Storm and Cyclops the leads, flesh out the rest of the cast such as Rogue, Gambit, Kitty and Jubilee (possibly her vampire version to make Blade tonally possible later on), to make them more interesting and resemble their comic and animated versions. Also this would allow audiences to focus on other X-Men villains who are not Magneto, Phoenix and Apocalypse until they can do them justice.

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one of the things that bugs me is that they had all 5 original xmen in it and they could not bring us the first image of xmen ever like that would have been so fun

The transitions get me every time

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I think the biggest problem with the movie, but also most X-Men movies, was cramming in too many characters and not doing enough with most of them (the first two movies were the best at not having too many characters relative to the runtime). TLS also gave way too little attention, let alone focus, to Jean and her relationships with Storm and, obviously, Cyclops.

Origins wolverine for me is still the worst one. This one has Kelsey Grammar as Beast at the very least. But since we’re on about opinions on these films, I must admit I find First Class very overrated (other than the performances of Charles and Eric).

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I watched it a few days ago and couldn't understand why it was so disliked. It's awesome!

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Watching this actually gives me a LITTLE bit more hope for Dark Phoenix. I mean it's still Fox so I have plenty of doubts, but perhaps the absence of the mutant cure will make a more faithful adaptation of the Dark Phoenix storyline, therefore a more focused movie. Plus the absence of Wolverine likely means the other X-Men will get more screen time and hence personality. I personally liked how X1&2 made Wolvie the main character. In a time where comic books were basically dead to most people, it makes sense that we have one recognizable and (more or less) relatable character to be our connection to the rest of these stranger characters with more wacky powers. In time of course it got to be much as the other X Men started getting the short end of the stick but it was a fine idea. Food for thought: X3 was a terrible end to the trilogy (not a BAD movie but certainly didn't live up to the mastery that was X2) but then we got First Class. Apocalyse is trilogy finale trial 2 and that also wasn't very good (had it's moments but didn't live up to DOFP). So maybe that means Dark Phoenix is actually gonna be good. And if it isn't....well... New Mutants might still happen and a horror themed X Men movie sounds pretty good to me XD

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Hugh Jackman as Superman.

Saw the film twice when it came out partly because I wanted to see the post credits scene and see it with other family members. It was perfectly watchable but quite incoherent and inconsistent with the trilogy’s peak which was X2. Days of Future Past rectified the mistakes of this movie but even there they changed the importance of Bishop and Cable’s roles for other actors’ screentime. I don’t think Shadowcat’s powers being used to phase Logan’s consciousness through time made sense.

How can you not love the Juggernaut's line? We still use that line in my family. Also...kitty Pryde....ironic.

why does fox keep insisting that the "Phoenix" be a hidden power within Jean and not the proper Cosmic entity?

X men 3 is like my life: not good, not bad, it just exists

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Wow I actually forget this movie happened!

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