What‘s so funny about it? I have bought only 3 synths this entire year - up to now …

It's funny to me because it's relatable. If I can go several months with out buying more gear that's a good thing.

It is 20to September as I leave my comment in this thread. The last time I bought a synthesizer was in March 2020. I’m actually resisting getting another, even though both Hydrasynth and Take 5 are calling out to me.

Definitely don’t buy this one ! It won’t sync or track pitch correctly 👽

​Kurzweil can¡!🤔° dude(s)​@@christoroppolo8742

Oh no, don't stop watching everyone else on my account!!

I didn't say everyone, it's just a couple.. time is finite after all, this is me saying something nice about you without taking away from other KZfaqrs :)@@ScottsSynthStuff

Sounds like a good plan! I’m hoping to get a deluxe very shortly 😮

The Hydrasynth is digital, it is not an analog synth.

@@LaurensLeurs I think they meant _analog style_ synthesis, which is one of several styles Hydra can do. Whether it's truly analog or a digital model, that's mostly just an implementation detail. Digital and analog sound virtually indistinguishable these days.

Yup you got it! I pleaded with Claudio for almost a year to get a Hydrasynth!

​​@@ScottsSynthStuff i like your studio setup better than Dr.Mix's what all ya got there¿Scott thanx dude

@@angelog.spicolaiii8021 I think I'd take Claudio's studio over mine! I have a couple things he doesn't have, but he's got some AMAZING gear! You can see my studio in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nK-JasqQ3L3VpZc.html

Hah, I got mine because of Claudio's video on it too... and related to this video, it's the only synth I own. I was looking for something that was versatile and I could grow into and as a guitar player the polyphonic aftertouch was a must.

I think you're in Toronto - I grew up near there, and visit often, but I actually live near Cleveland.

@@ScottsSynthStuff ahhh cool. Perhaps our paths will cross one day. Loving the channel man. 🍻

in the hydrasynth menu now, with original factory presets sorted by name. there are two starting with "grass": Grassland DA (A071) and Grasslands (A047)

The Summit is a beautiful synth. The sounds it produces are alive and rich. Love mine.

The Summit 😂 with a Hydrasynth If you have a Roland Integra and Summit.. you have a full studio 😉

​@@antoniocalimero1173I'd love both but hey my pockets are empty at this stage 😢😅

Well, it's a subtractive VA/wavetable synth, it was never intended to be able to play piano - but the fact that you can get piano-ish sounds out of it is due to the flexibility of its synth engine.

I've vascillated on the Virus - it sounds amazing, I'm less enthralled with its user interface, and REALLY not impressed at how it has been utterly abandoned by its manufacturer. Plus the fact that they are still charging $2600 for a synth that has been essentially unchanged for over 14 years.

I've got a Virus B and love how it sounds. Fortunately still have an old PC to run the long-abandoned Sounddiver editor that makes programming it sooo much easier. Apple bought their parent company and shut it down. Iirc, Waldorf actually went thru bankruptcy/sold.

avoid the explorer, the other models are metal and heavy af, and have literally half the menu diving

Agreed, some of the third-party sound designers have made some amazing sounds. I actually have a better piano sound in my Hydrasynth, but I figured I would show the factory one that everyone with a Hydrasynth already has.

I usually am! It was a great show last night!

@@ScottsSynthStuff I found out about the show quite late, but they're always great live! I'll keep my eyes peeled for when they play next. That reminds me that I need to re-listen to the CD Rob gave me when I saw them live last. That's a while ago when Don Berns was still alive. Don introduced us and I went with Don and Dave 'Marsbar' Marsden.

OK.....but from what I'm hearing I wouldn't sell my Jupiter X or Oasys or Kronos 2 for a Hydrasynth........

I'd want two simply because some songs are easier to manage on two machines than one (e.g., Depeche Mode). But it seems one could be the Hydrasynth .... hmm ...

I have had both, though I had the Hydra 49. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what you’re looking for. They’re two completely different beasts. If you have the ability to test them out, I would encourage that. Otherwise, maybe watch more KZfaq videos. I ended up feeling both were too hard for me to use to their full utility. Hydrasynth is far superior when it comes to quality…hard for me to say, as I tend to love Korgs, but I don’t like the quality of the Wavestate. Would not buy another one. I will probably buy a Hydrasynth Deluxe at some point.

Love that song. :)

I think that was my "best synths for beginners" video, and the Hydrasynth I thought would just overwhelm someone brand new to synthesis.

@@ScottsSynthStuff - and probably correctly so. That said, I only know the basics of subtractive synthesis, and my ready-to-practice setup is simply a Yamaha piano and the Hydrasynth

Ah, gotya, thanks!

I've used Yamaha for maaaany years, and I know the Montage inside out. I can do things on the Montage easily that are an exercise in frustration (or impossible) on the Fantom. The user interface in the Fantom is...substandard and frustrating.

No, if you are looking to play piano, this is not going to suit you. But if you need a synth to play out, and occasionally might need a piano sound, the Hydrasynth could pass for it. And yes...my limitation right now is space for synths! I'd need another stand to add any more.

I have not, but I've played several other synths (and softsynths) that support polyphonic aftertouch from my Hydrasynth, and they work great - I didn't have to change anything, they just worked.

Having had both for the past year or more, I can say there is no real contest -- you can do much more with the HS than the S8: poly AT alone makes the HS respond unlike the S8. However, that may be more than you wish to manage, at least in a concert setting. This is why I have the HS at home for fun and exploration, and the S8 as part of my current stage rig. But Scott's video here may change my mind about that :)

You got it! :)

I have a Fantom and a Hydra . I think I'll watch your tutorials. I've yet to dive deep..😬

while this doesn't directly answer what you asked, it does come close and comparing the two synths makes for a very fascinating study. while I don't own the Summit, i own both the Hydrasynth Deluxe and the Novation Peak. That said, I wondered for months on end what the difference was between the two, and i searched high and low online and on KZfaq to answer this question. I think the best way I can put it, is this: - There is some overlap between the two, but they differ enough to make a strong case for getting both. Ultimately, that's what I decided to do. IF YOU MUST CHOOSE ONE, CONSIDER THIS: - The Peak/Summit perhaps shines brightest in the realms of lush pads, snarling basses, and warm leads, all imbued with a certain classic analog character that feels both timeless and modern. If the majority of your use case revolves around that, I'd probably lean towards the peak and not even read the rest. If not, read on. - The Hydrasynth shines brightest in terms of how all-around it is. That is, IMO it doesn't excel in one type of sound better than the peak, but instead IMO more easily produces a wider range of sounds that are executed more accurately than the peak. The only exception that applies is in terms of analog emulation, and for that I think the Peak/Summit tends to have a very slight edge. - In short, the Hydrasynth leans towards a futuristic, clean, and highly detailed sound, with exceptional strength in digital texture and sonic exploration. It's like a digital sculptor's tool, precise and capable of slightly more intricate designs than Peak/Summit. - The Hydrasynth's other features (more clear signal path, module select, ribbon controller, better arpeggiator, and awesome keybed with polyphonic aftertouch) make it both easier to use and IMO the claims of this synth being a "sound designer's dream" are well-founded. - That said, I owned the Peak for almost two years before deciding to get a Hydrasynth Deluxe, and it is also a sound designers dream, as well. Just, not as user-friendly for that particular use case, IMO. -- Hydrasynth has features that will save you time in the long run, as well, such as the ability to easily combine functions into Macros. To do the same on the Peak/Summit is not even close to as easy. Both are exceptional and unique instruments, with not as much overlap as I thought pre-purchase but enough to initiate the comparison. Hope this helps.

I have two. The big mixer you see that does all my recording and connects all the synths is a Behringer X32. Next to it is a Yamaha MG12XU which controls the mix for my monitors.

Absolutely!! I use it as a poly aftertouch controller for my Montage M7, and I also use it to play my Wavestate, because the keybed on the Wavestate is...well, miserable.

Yup, that one is really on my list - the 2.0 version, but the main problem with it is that it is HUGE! I don't currently have a space in my studio to fit it. I also really dislike the idiotic decision to put all the connections on the side. Why?!?

ha ha, the connections on the left: easy to see what you're connecting. But they're recessed just enough that right-angle plugs can't drop down, only up. Why? No good reason. And that's just one of several "features" of the Sledge which make you wonder. That said: it's an amazing value-for-money synth, the hands-on aspect is very satisfying, and you can do almost anything with it -- if you take a deep breath, spend some time with it, and accept it for what it is. Some insist on the black version for the better keyboard but the yellow version is good enough for Jordan Rudess, so who can argue with that? :)

No they don’t sound “awful”. It’s not sampling it’s synthesizing which will always sound different. Good luck hauling an upright to your gigs! 😃

We'll just have to agree to disagree about this @@darryldouglas6004 ! But that's fine, the Hydrasynth is still top-notch synth and has a place on my GAS list,

The Hydrasynth has a lot more modulation and routing options than the DM12. The DM12 is modeled more like a Juno-106, with its two oscilllators (plus noise).

@@ScottsSynthStuff Thanks... this would make an outstanding first synth to accompany my Akai force I bought to learn the basics of music creation. It's been wild ride researching these things!