The Impossible Standards of College Admissions
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Күн бұрынInternet Analysis: the college application process is hyper-competitive, unfair, and unhealthy. Thanks to today's sponsor, Amino! Please download the app and watch my series, Life After High School! aminoapps.onelink.me/4eRt/tif... // Thumbnail artwork: center animation of student and college campus by Vivian Shih for NPR, juggling artwork on the left came from (mor.news/2019/01/24/stretched...) but the artist wasn't named.
#internetanalysis #collegeadmissions #highschool
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 - intro
1:37 - all students are told they need a bachelor's degree to be successful
2:03 - shout out to today's sponsor, Amino
2:56 - what exactly is expected of students to be considered "competitive" ? highest possible GPA, as many advanced courses as possible, and tons of extracurricular activities
4:36 - your family income level and where you live definitely impact your ability to be a competitive applicant. socioeconomic factors add additional obstacles
5:53 - sharing my perspective - living in an affluent area as a low income, first generation college student, taking advanced / AP courses
7:59 - it's crazy to expect all students to be perfect and well-rounded
8:50 - I also want to address accessibility and privilege. Quality education and certain opportunities aren't available to everyone
9:31 - where do these high standards and pressures come from? self, society, and parents. for example: TIGER MOMS!
10:55 - let's talk about GPA and how APs raise a weighted GPA. Top students these days aim for GPAs close to 5.0.
13:06 - access to AP scores is very unequal. There are income and race gaps in advanced courses
14:42 - grade inflation is also a thing!! private and suburban public high schools are awarding higher grades (while SAT scores have actually gone down)
17:54 - let's talk about SAT and ACT testing, and the privilege of college prep
20:12 - extracurriculars!! gotta balance a dozen activities to make yourself look well-rounded! students feel compelled to spend every spare moment doing something productive, for the sake of creating an "impressive" college application
23:08 - if you're not the strongest academically, though, ECs can help boost your application
24:34 - CONTENT WARNING, self-harm and su*cide (censoring in case youtube's algorithm tries to automatically demonetize / flag this video) -- there are real dangers of being overworked, especially as a high school student
SOURCES:
Do You Have A 'Tiger Mom'? | NBC Asian America, video - • Voices: Do You Have A ...
Access to AP courses often elusive for low-income students - ctmirror.org/2018/05/14/advan...
The Two Most Important College-Admissions Criteria Now Mean Less - www.theatlantic.com/education...
Silicon Valley, Palo Alto article - www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...
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@NayNay97xoxo 4 жыл бұрын
*also no one is talking about where the problem lies: COLLEGES ARE RUN LIKE BUSINESSES*
@bernicebiju2312 4 жыл бұрын
colleges are businesses
@bernicebiju2312 4 жыл бұрын
Naomi Wanders they’re all just trying to take our money
@luciabee 4 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate a bit on how? Do you mean like their purpose is to make a profit, or that the classroom setting is more like a business setting?
@NayNay97xoxo 4 жыл бұрын
@@luciabee my college has claimed that they operate on a break-even business model, but that has not stopped them from raising tuition by $1000+ with no additional aid over the past 3 years that I've been attending. they never say WHY they're raising tuition, only that the rate is consistent with past tuition hikes. like wtf??? I go to a private college so not sure if its the same for state schools. I also learned that the chairs of the board for my school get a fat bonus every year but this past year they decided to use it for a gift for the school which is great and all, but its not something they do every year or even often. the problem is they shouldn't even be getting a bonus at all. that money should be put back into the school on things used for the students
@bernicebiju2312 4 жыл бұрын
LuciaBiggles i think one of their main goals to make profits
@ToastyJunebugs 4 жыл бұрын
Calling someone 'the full package' is the same line of thinking as calling someone 'damaged goods'. I freaking hate it. People aren't products.
@smilesxo06 3 жыл бұрын
1.2k likes and no comments?
@henryanderson6752 3 жыл бұрын
@@smilesxo06 The comment said it perfectly.
@smilesxo06 3 жыл бұрын
@@henryanderson6752 yeah but normally people would discuss the comment but I guess your right
@user-oo6vr1ky5f 3 жыл бұрын
People have value though
@gn2630 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-oo6vr1ky5f sure, but we arent fucking products being sold in a god damn walmart
@pokelover02 4 жыл бұрын
My childhood friend/academic rival ended up being valedictorian of my high school class. During her grad speech, she talked about how she didn't have many friends and that the library was her home. She ended up going to Berkeley, and when I asked about how she was doing, it turned out she was doing the same thing. No social interaction whatsoever. And she was super lonely. She ended up speaking at her college graduation ceremony too, and it was the same exact speech about not having friends or having a social life in general. She just spent the whole time studying, and she wasn't even joking about it. She looked genuinely sad.
@jasminejelly6882 3 жыл бұрын
oh noooo i feel bad but i just wonder how she didnt get fed up with it. i would be so frustrated and just goof off for a day not caring about tomorrow even if its just for a short moment
@Yvp13 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is over a year later but how is she doing now?
@jamesbedukodjograham5508 2 жыл бұрын
Sell that is the life of the Nerds but those bunch are the ones that create amazing innovations to benefit the whole of Society.
@Zulantie Жыл бұрын
How is she doing now?? Hopefully better than before
@lazerlightening 4 жыл бұрын
Student: I'm the top of my class, well known with my teachers and peers, I help run my families business, I started an organization to help with poverty stricken areas after natural disasters leave them struggling, NASA has approved me to be the first human on Mars and I- Colleges: Yeah but according to your third grade teacher, one of your friends made a joke about Anna's hair and you laughed. So... :/
@chloee.6495 4 жыл бұрын
“But you saw what they were doing to Tyler and you did nothing!” “Because I was over ON THE BENCH.” And then my dad said, “Just explain to me this. How are you better than a Nazi?” -John Mulaney
@annawhiting 3 жыл бұрын
HEY! stop making jokes about my hair!
@robbiesilverwolf 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not how it works
@berkay1773 3 жыл бұрын
@@robbiesilverwolf its a joke
@robbiesilverwolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@berkay1773 point is when people say colleges have ridiculously high standards they are talking about the over priced colleges that lie to you that it matters what college you went to
@daliaelhanan 4 жыл бұрын
the nine dislikes are from harvard, dartmouth, stanford, cornell, duke, brown, princeton, pen state and yale
@Eibarwoman 4 жыл бұрын
And maybe Pensacola Christian College which is a whole other crazy institution. Not as much competitive as restrictive
@anyarendahl9958 4 жыл бұрын
they all made second accounts lol!
@emilybear1098 4 жыл бұрын
UPenn...
@DexiDadzie 4 жыл бұрын
Eva Schenker she meant UPenn I’m pretty sure
@shreyofsunshine 4 жыл бұрын
i think you mean upenn
@westworlds 4 жыл бұрын
The tragedy of this is is that does not stop after high school. In fact, it some cases it gets worse because now you are trying to deal with a college load while dealing with internships, and joining clubs, homework and graduating with honors so you can land an elite job post college because for some reason they expect you to have years of experince right after college. God forbid if you have to work full time to support yourself in school. And let's not even start with the ethical implications of internships. It's more like slave labor.
@westworlds 4 жыл бұрын
@Cassandra Pentaghast I see where you are coming from, but for me, since my parents can't help me out at all with school, I have to work a full time job and jump through non stop hoops to qualify for honors, scholarships, internships, homework, all while working full time. For me, it is just a continuation of high school BS.
@SUD8800 4 жыл бұрын
Unpaid internships are really awful, I feel like there could be a video about that. I had three internships during college and with all of them I just did all the routine errand stuff, nothing that would actually be pertaining to my major. So, on paper, I have "experience" but when it comes to actual skills, there are none. It leads to great insecurity during job applications, because you feel somewhat inadequate or don't meet the expected criteria
@tessmoffett5512 4 жыл бұрын
So TRUE! I'm applying for jobs fresh out of college right now, and every single ENTRY-LEVEL position I have applied for requires 3-4 years of experience in the field! They also request Master's degrees a lot of the time, too. Can someone explain to me how that could be possible for anyone at an entry level?!
@mikaela4180 4 жыл бұрын
Most unpaid internships are illegal based on Dept of Labor standards, they just don't get enforced. If the focus of the internship isnt educative for the intern or the duties can be replaced by a salaried employee, its technically illegal.
@Yvp13 4 жыл бұрын
Who said you had to join clubs? You just put more stress on yourself if you're going through all this.
@ScarletBegonia1974 4 жыл бұрын
My 17 year old daughter was labeled gifted in 1st grade and it has haunted her since then. She never feels like she’s “living up” to what she should be capable of. We are not the type of family to push anything on our kids aside from morals, so it’s all self inflicted with a large dose of guilt piled on by her school. I’d love to hear more about your experience.
@someperson5137 4 жыл бұрын
I was labeled "gifted" in second grade and it just didn't bother me much. It was a small town and there were many people in the program so I didn't feel special or anything. Then I moved to another country and now I'm back but in a different state but there isn't a program like that, at least not that I know of. So I guess it neither had a positive nor negative effect on me
@rebeccaa3869 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 16 and have been I the GT (gifted and talented) classes my whole life. I’m currently ranked 2nd in my grade for my school. I have been taken from 4th grade classes to be put into 5th grade ones and skipping over whatever I should’ve learned for an entire year. I’m taking AP Calculus and still don’t know how to divide fractions or my fast facts. Every summer other gt kids ask what you will be doing the summer. I’m talking internships at Johns Hopkins university or engineering camps. Every end of the quarter you stay up until 4:00 am to finish projects and work you never had time to get to then wake up at 6:00 am for school. I take college classes on top of my gt and ap because I don’t have time to take classes such as gym in my schedule. My parents NEVER pushed me into anything but rather tried to talk me out of harder classes. The school system will try to push you into harder classes to brag how many kids are taking AP classes and compete with other schools. GT culture is so toxic but the problem is that teachers treat kids in standard classes like they aren’t even teenagers but toddlers. You don’t care about your mental or physical health when you have projects due. I like to think that I don’t care about my grades more than myself but I have had mental breakdowns when I got a B. We live off of coffee and complaining about how much we don’t want to do this shit anymore but keep doing it. I hope this helped.
@MarsCBG 4 жыл бұрын
I was labelled gifted in 3rd grade and absolutely failed in the gifted programs in my district. I was getting C's in grade 5 and it shot my confidence in the foot. I also struggled with not living up to the expectations that my teachers and my mom placed on me even at the age of 10. It led to a full breakdown at age 15 that I'm still recovering from. I managed to get my grades up via intense internal pressure on myself during my last 1 and 1/2 years in high school and after I had that graduation with honours and acceptance to university I burnt out for my first year of uni and have ended up with remedial classes for my next and second year of uni all because of the internal and external pressure from that gifted label.
@DianaKaulitzListing 4 жыл бұрын
I was in the same situation as your daughter. Schools and teachers do tend to guilt trip gifted students if they're not excelling in literally everything.
@bebetter6403 4 жыл бұрын
Is your daughters name Scarlet? Lol
@meredythpowellcohen1496 4 жыл бұрын
The expectations are insane. Society acts like if you don't have a high gpa and are "well rounded", your life is over. It wasn't until after high school, that I learned specifics about trade school and starting businesses.
@leerose8628 4 жыл бұрын
Takes a serious toll on the mental health too.
@malarkeylaboratories3658 3 жыл бұрын
what does "well rounded" mean anyhow
@user-dd8bh2ou3u 3 жыл бұрын
@@malarkeylaboratories3658 ridiculously high test scores, a gpa over 4.5, and 72 different ECs including sports, clubs, charities, volunteering, part-time jobs, etc., that's all. :) oh, and don't forget having the ability to answer and write the countless essay questions asking you 800 words on your passions outside of school and ECs. (as if those are even physically possible to have)
@malarkeylaboratories3658 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-dd8bh2ou3u i really hope you are exaggerating
@rishabhanand4973 3 жыл бұрын
@@malarkeylaboratories3658 i feel like it may have started off as something well intentioned, like "don't spend all your time on coursework, you should do other things like take up a sport, volunteer, join a club, etc" but it turned into "you have to not only excel in your coursework, but also all those other things in order for me to take you seriously".
@tamaraboensch2644 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, so I'm from Germany and it's such a fucking concept to me that you literally have to pay to take a test. Like, I don't understand how anyone could see an opportunity to make money in that.
@alexusmorrison4195 4 жыл бұрын
I live in the states and I've been wanting to go to an international school in germany or somewhere in central Europe because it wouldn't be the death of me. My family is pretty poor and the tests alone would hurt us financially. I'm a sophomore and I'm already burnt out from American education. So many people say I'm ungrateful for the "opportunities I've been given" but I seriously can't see myself living, working, or going to school here much longer.
@sageseeker9197 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexusmorrison4195 I know, I've been thinking about this for a while now, and I think I'm really going to pursue it if I can't get a scholarship here. There are so many more opportunities for me, and my preferred major (Anthropology) abroad than I do here, and at a reasonable price in comparison to the US, where I would be spending myself into a corner of debt that I would realistically, be fifty by the time I actually pay off.
@Jamie-zl6mw 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexusmorrison4195 you could likely get a fee waiver in your income bracket
@lissa4750 4 жыл бұрын
Lol you can only take the abitur once.
@KiraDaBeastNY 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to America where corporate scum will privatize any and everything.
@LivingInChrysalis 4 жыл бұрын
Former "gifted child" here... I never "lived up to my potential". But I'm okay with it.
@princesseuphemia1007 4 жыл бұрын
I'm right there with you. So much "intelligence" but I don't "do anything" with it. :P
@Wendy-je9zf 4 жыл бұрын
MOOD
@pokemontrainer5177 4 жыл бұрын
You are living your potential right now, you are worth it and you don't need to prove yourself based on expectations. What you are is enough!
@ladysuznuk 4 жыл бұрын
Amy Living In Chrysalis same! I live in Australia and faced immense disappointment from teachers and family when I decided not to apply for university, currently working as an accounts assistant and studying with a TAFE (not sure what the US equivalent is) and I’m so happy with my choice. If I want to go to university I’ll do it later. Will never push the narrative that a university degree is the only way to be successful.
@LivingInChrysalis 4 жыл бұрын
@@ladysuznuk at least here, it's a trap. I'll NEVER hee able to pay off my student loans short of a mega-jackpot lottery win!
@emilyslack6209 4 жыл бұрын
this is so critical. high school and college start an unhealthy "hustle" focused life. it's not one focused on happiness or joy, but on monetary contribution
@elizabethgatsby3442 4 жыл бұрын
I was so freaking stressed at the end of my senior year I was legitimately suicidal. Between the pressure of keeping up with my grades, working after school, college and SAT prep classes (which my mom worked extra hours to pay for- isn’t that a whole new level of guilt) and extra curriculars I was absolutely drowning. I felt like I was always behind. I thought that Everyone was doing better than me, everyone was getting scholarships, everyone was getting accepted to better schools etc. My immigrant parents made me feel like every decision I made was the wrong one and I could be doing better. It got to the point where I was crying myself to sleep almost every night, having panic attacks over the smallest things, and developed an eating disorder. I’m now going to a college that wasn’t my first choice and you know what? That’s okay. In fact it’s more than okay, it might not be an Ivy League or even #1 in the state but I’ve learned to be happy where I am because if I continued going down the path I was headed down I wouldn’t be here right now.
@Yvp13 4 жыл бұрын
Ummm couldn't you just idk drop the extracurriculars?
@kalisworl 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yvp13 Ik this comments a year old and yea they couldve...and then what? Look bad in the colleges perspective because they didnt keep consistent with their extracurriculars? Its unfair but those are the expectations.
@Stormaggedonx 4 жыл бұрын
The moment I realized the acceptance system is completely f***** was when the second ranked student in my graduating class was rejected from a top school in California. If anyone reading this doesn’t get into their top pick/s remember, it’s not you it’s the system. You’re worth more than what school does or doesn’t accept you.
@esmesal6006 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I neeeded to hear this. Now that I didn’t get accepted into a college I applied too
@graceperez8759 4 жыл бұрын
*sees title* Me, a high school senior: this is gonna be good
@thienthien444 4 жыл бұрын
ok mood
@brightbluesummer3981 4 жыл бұрын
Mood af, I’m so stressed about my future
@KB-xx2sn 4 жыл бұрын
OOF yea 😭
@sashareid7843 4 жыл бұрын
A whole ass mood
@jaminwaite3867 4 жыл бұрын
Me: *college junior in debt* 😬
@ninaj3662 4 жыл бұрын
I always want to encourage people to go to community college first because it saves so much money and you can still transfer to a 4 year college after. You can easily get accepted into community college so then you don’t have to worry about all those expectations while you’re in high school. I never took the SAT or ACTs and I didn’t take any IB or AP classes because I simply didn’t want the stress. I graduated high school with a 3.6 GPA which I thought was really good (especially compared to some of my peers) and got my AA at community college with a 3.8. Now I’ve been accepted into the University of Washington as a transfer student. I can’t begin to imagine how someone would get over a 4.0 and the toll it would take. I feel blessed that my parents were always proud of me and didn’t pressure me to be a “perfect” student. Not saying community college is for everyone, but it worked amazing for me and many other people I know!
@giovanniherrera6037 4 жыл бұрын
In California, you’re guaranteed a spot a university or state school if you graduate/ transfer. You also get priority to schools you apply to
@mbm759 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I’ll be applying to UW this year! Question, you said you never took the SAT’s or ACT’s and went to community college first, I’m currently a senior in high school and am in running start. I’m in my second year and I still haven’t taken my SAT’s yet but am debating about doing them or not because I’ve been confused on if I even need it since I will technically be a transfer student and be in my junior year by the time I’d get there. Do you think if I just focus on getting a good college GPA that I could get in even without doing the SAT?
@mbm759 4 жыл бұрын
I’m also a full-time student and will have my AA by the time I graduate but I’ve just been stressing about my SAT’s and have changed the date twice because I’ve been super busy and I thought I should ask you since you’re going to the exact same school I want to go to 😊
@ninaj3662 4 жыл бұрын
Marc Myron That’s awesome you did running start! I’m pretty sure as long as you got your AA, they shouldn’t require your SAT or ACT scores when you apply. For me, they just needed my college transcript and high school transcript. I had a 3.8 GPA in community college and a 3.6 for high school and I got in just with that! I’m going to the UW Bothell location instead of Seattle so I’m not sure if they have different requirements (I doubt it). But just to be sure, I would recommend calling or emailing an academic advisor or admissions specialist to ask. Good luck!
@chrispham4347 4 жыл бұрын
@@mbm759 I'm in the same situation. So I was suggested to apply as a freshman and still took the SATs. My SAT score made my application stronger, so it helped me
@poniesandproteins 4 жыл бұрын
The GPAs I've found are meaningless at actually predicting student success. As someone who teaches college freshman biology, the high school GPAs of my students each year are on average going up, but the quality of work has they produce has gone down. The students get so caught up in checking these boxes and overworking themselves to meet impossible standards, that they miss out on learning and understanding the material. They get so hyper-competitive and obsessed with doing everything by the book and making sure everything is perfect for med school applications in the future, that they immediately shut down if something didn't go exactly to plan. There's too much of an emphasis on quantity of activities that the students lose the ability and the time necessary to focus and learn things deeply, and GPAs get padded by the high schools themselves to make up for this, so the newer classes look better on paper, but are coming in less prepared every year. I teach at a large public state school, so I only imagine it's even worse at more competitive colleges.
@lucia7234 2 жыл бұрын
I had a terrible high school gpa I got Ds and even Fs. I am now a phd candidate.
@NayNay97xoxo 4 жыл бұрын
dont forget that even WITH AP classes: many colleges want you to have a super high UNWEIGHTED GPA and many non-public colleges do not accept 3 scores on tests, some require 4s or even 5s
@eira839 4 жыл бұрын
aka: AP classes are a waste of time :(
@boreddude3898 4 жыл бұрын
I know its ass, I was told that theres a cap on AP tests theyll accept too, so now some of the tests I've taken wont even mean shit to them
@ryanduffy6089 4 жыл бұрын
@@eira839 You'll be glad you took them when you get to college (if your college accepts them). I took one AP class and two dual enrollment classes (which are much better because I didn't have to take a test at the end of the year) and now I don't have to take as many classes each semester, which not only saves me time, but also saves me money
@longliveplanetawesome3223 4 жыл бұрын
A Person At my high school, students don't have a choice in whether or not they take AP classes. If the class can be AP, you are definitely taking it as AP. The school will pay for your tests, which is cool, but studying for 4 AP tests as well as the SAT and ACT at the same time, WHILE keeping up with your classes in Junior Year is kinda stressful. Thank goodness I don't have a life that would interfere with my studies! [Somebody save me!]
@jaminwaite3867 4 жыл бұрын
If they even accept your dual credit classes too...esp for private schools
@joshmakesdrinksandjokes 4 жыл бұрын
THIS!!! I removed my videos on my statistics as a college vlogger / student accepted to an ivy league school because I realized how toxic the culture was and how, by making those videos, I was perpetuating it. Even one of my best friends at college told me how her dad would compare her to me through my videos before we even met. It's toxic for everyone, parents and kids.
@td2884 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched your videos. Your ability to reflect on this topic AND respond compassionately in a way that is aligned with your values is what makes you successful. Well done! Take care of yourself and keep showing love to your community♥️
@lamiije 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s messed up that the dad did that. :PPP I would feel bad if my parents did that
@periwinkleadidas 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I love your vids! And as I study for the SAT on my own to get a steep point-increase, videos like yours and tiffanyferg's ground me and keep me from going into the deep end this year :)
@dellacrawford3731 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joshco didn’t expect to see you here
@DaGoodVybe 4 жыл бұрын
heyitsjoshco [Josh Ocampo] good for you👏👏👏
@sushi523 4 жыл бұрын
In my school, and I think in Austria in general, there isn't that much pressure. Sure, you gotta graduate, but you don't need extracurriculars and that kinda stuff to get into university (we don't have college). The unis make you take tests which vary from uni to uni. Also university isn't expensive. It's either for free or about 300-400$ a year. I am so glad I don't have to put up with this kind of BS. We don't even have AP's and I still don't understand GPA's. Also, who tf PAYS for a test?! That sounds so stupid.
@zvachalka 4 жыл бұрын
I also live in Austria and the pressure depends probably on in which school you are going to. I attend high school for chemistry (HTL). Even the 'gifted' students struggle to do all the stuff that we are supposed to do and to get good grades. But with the rest I completely agree. If I compere the educational system to the USA, I'm really happy to live in Austria and be able to afford education.
@jasonrask4085 4 жыл бұрын
Susi H 400 dollars Jesus Christ my state college with scholarships is around 20,000 dollars a year
@nehapalle5797 4 жыл бұрын
Wha-
@jaminwaite3867 4 жыл бұрын
$46k/year for my basic private school
@ErikatheEchoTech 4 жыл бұрын
I skipped college and went straight to a trade school for ultrasound (cardiac and vascular)about 18 years ago... best decision I made. College is not for everyone and that’s OK.
@mj-f7135 2 жыл бұрын
How
@TimeBunny 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly wish apprenticeships and trade schools had been more of a thing when I left school (or I’d been told about them) 20 odd years ago. As much as I liked college, I was pushed into it by my dad and felt I could only do certain courses rather than what I actually wanted to do.
@katerinamudrova7928 4 жыл бұрын
As a European person, I cant stop wondering about how bizarre the American school system is. It seems to have zero focus on actual education, but all the focus on the money. No wonder so many Americans think university is unnecessary....
@jasonrask4085 4 жыл бұрын
Kateřina Mudrová American school is incredibly stressful I don’t know about European schools but there’s so much pressure coming from every angle
@victoriaumukoro116 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonrask4085 no
@isabelannie8414 4 жыл бұрын
yes it seems absolutely unnecessary...i feel like jn italy where i live school is pretty stressful and it’s difficult to get top grades in the final exams, but then for like 99% of italian unis they don’t care about the grades as much as an entrance exam that will determine itself if you get in or not
@Emily-ky4tv 4 жыл бұрын
Im from Austria and i feel like the unis care more about how u actually do in school and not about what you do outside of school with clubs and stuff but to be considered 'good' u only have to have about a 2.0 average (in Austria 1 is the best, 5 lowest and u pass with everything better than 5) And to get into uni u just have to be average (about 3.0) only some courses require very good grades (like law and medical stuff) idk just thought id share that
@savannahfrancinestorms7480 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, if you dont do a lot of sports and clubs and volunteering it doesn't really matter what your grades are 🤦♀️
@emma4718 4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE make a video on being a “gifted kid” and the repercussions of that identity omfg
@rmarr1163 4 жыл бұрын
yesss
@agnetafelicia5961 4 жыл бұрын
here. for. it. Please Tiffany!
@parishayes2075 4 жыл бұрын
Yes omg! Are group projects more like you carrying the weight projects because you're the "smart one"? Or is that just my school?
@RingTheBella 4 жыл бұрын
Frrrrr had my first breakdown at 14 and dropped out of school all together at 17, was too insecure to even get my GED until I was twenty. A lot of things can go wrong when that kind of pressure is put on a kid
@RingTheBella 4 жыл бұрын
@@parishayes2075 at a certain point I started demanding teachers let me work on my own because I didn't feel it was fair. Of course some things needed a group, but those activities were always the kind that everyone HAS to participate, somehow (dissecting a frog, doing a skit in health, etc). It happens everywhere
@saipat9118 4 жыл бұрын
My school’s valedictorian took all the AP classes offered at our school (16 classes) got an A in all and was still rejected from the school she wanted to go. But she did apply at MIT so that’s probably why
@lefaek3720 4 жыл бұрын
wow this sounds like good news for me lmaooo, I'm doing 3 AP Tests this may 2020 (self study) and am a junior. Im planning on doing more next year, but if she got rejected from MIT I don't know how im ever going to suit the part
@chrispham4347 4 жыл бұрын
I graduated HS with an AA, got in the 90th percentile for SAT, was a club president, worked a couple jobs, and got rejected by every Ivy League.
@musfiramohamed6322 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrispham4347 how did you get an AA in HS?
@chrispham4347 3 жыл бұрын
@@musfiramohamed6322 There’s programs in my area that allow me to take college classes in replacement for high school classes. Only a small fraction get an AA. This program is rather rare
@dantemwatibo3517 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrispham4347 i don’t know why you’re saying 90th percentile like that’s some insane Ivy score cuz I know for a fact that low 1400’s is still 99th percentile. Don’t mislead people by hiding your actual SAT score behind a percentile
@kaylieherdman2660 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a high school senior, and one of the most toxic things about the college admissions process is one's class rank. A top university in my state will automatically accept the top 6% of students in the graduating class. This has lead a seriously unhealthy behavior of comparing class rank (which is based on weighted GPAs) between students and a ramped-up sense of competition- even between friends
@francescafernandez3885 4 жыл бұрын
This happened at my school as well, It got so bad tot he point our teachers don't tell us our class ranking
@PartyRocker-bz2ip 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I kinda hate the texas system cause some of my friends who were sub 6 (like 7-10) just got flat out rejected. And some of the 6% kids didn’t even get their major!!?
@wisdomnova4317 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I hate that. I remember in high school many students would ask each other what was their class rank as if we are defined just by one number. It’s so unhealthy.
@hayleerobinson2909 4 жыл бұрын
i hate how hard it is to get privileged people to understand this. people with privilege don't want to know that they're privileged cause they want to feel like them and their peers are better and when you take that away from them, they get defensive.
@yeontanseyebrows5588 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's also their brains hearing "these people have it harder" as "you didn't work hard". It might make them feel that the person is dismissing their possible hard work, which obviously isn't the intention, but when people focus more on how the argument reflects on them rather than on the people it's actually about they tend to get defensive
@JordanSedai 4 жыл бұрын
I think people are generally just frustrated that they arent all on an equal playing field. If that were the case, the world would make simple sense and let people advance with merit. (Some people would want to be able to buy merit and would be frustrated that they couldn't, but I really think most people are just annoyed that the results aren't all that matter when they often have nothing to do with their own circumstances, which are used to gauge their overall value.) But an equal opoortunity merit based system simply isnt reality, and that causes wierd and unpredictable (and also seemingly unfair) dynamics for people in various kinds of privilege, or even lack thereof. It's just hard to cope with that, especially being so young and not knowing all that much, on either end of the spectrum.
@TheMurrmursonbottle 4 жыл бұрын
Yeontan's Eyebrows That’s exactly what it is. People can recognize that their circumstances might benefit them more, but when people call out others’ privilege, they do it in a way that’s almost derogatory to the privileged person, so the privileged person gets defensive. It makes it sound like it’s a bad thing to be privileged, and like privileged people don’t work hard. Everyone should work hard and be proud that they do, but everyone should also recognize that some people have to work harder to get to the same level, and they can be proud of that as well.
@sanjanan7109 4 жыл бұрын
privilege can be anything though. it can be that you are rich, or that you are extremely attractive (pretty people have it much easier to get jobs they want). almost everyone has some sort of privilege, and it's unfair to discredit their success and say it's all because of their privilege. obviously, it's unfair that some people have more privilege than others, but it's not like they can change it. shouldn't we be happy for the privileged people, and help the under privileged ones? bring everyone to a higher level, rather than saying that privileged people don't deserve their privilege and they should be brought down to the underprivileged level?
@diamondurey1433 4 жыл бұрын
Sanjana N this!
@swimmyswim417 4 жыл бұрын
The generic 4-year college degree is the world’s most expensive participation award. If you don’t have a plan for your major and what kind of career you want to pursue after you get that major, you’re just throwing your money away. If there’s any doubt as to whether or not you’re ready for college... DON’T GO! It’s that simple. Get a job. Join the military. Go to trade school. I’m a “formerly gifted” student who dropped out of an elite engineering program after two months because I wasn’t mature enough to handle the pressure and responsibilities. I dropped out of college altogether a year later and started working as a home care aide. I’m back in school now, I have more years of maturity under my belt and I have a clear long-term path ahead with my intended Nursing major. My brother floundered around for a year after he graduated, he took some college classes but he wasn’t ready for university. Nobody at our private school talked with him about alternatives to the typical 4- year university. He joined the Marines, and he’s flourishing. If university is the right path for you, go for it. But college is a means to an end, it shouldn’t be a goal in and of itself. We need to make sure high school kids are fully aware of all the career-oriented options available to them after graduation, not just university.
@eurekamreum5458 4 жыл бұрын
As a Med School dropout who had to deal with severe depression/suicidal thoughts for years and is about to start a degree in Translation being happier than ever, I 100% agree. Take your time, get your priorities straight and never stop learning. You are your only competition.
@jbiebs1001 4 жыл бұрын
The fact is not everyone should go to college. Pushing everyone to go to college is why colleges are so competitive these days. Colleges like you said are means to an end. Military programs and trade school should be highly advertised and less looked down upon. This would take pressure off of universities and the students who feel pushed into them.
@brycebeverly9537 4 жыл бұрын
I kind of believe the inverse? I have an English degree and I'm going to grad school for English Literature soon. I went to be educated and know everything there is about books. While I do eventually want to be a professor or author I also recognize that those careers are few and far between and not necessarily always the ends of getting my degree. I think education should be about intellectual curiosity in some cases. I also fully believe if you want a job and that's all, it's important to see if a degree is even required ie. trade school, etc. I found too many of my peers in my classes were unengaged and learning absolutely nothing because they thought in the end they'd win a piece of paper and go straight into a perfect job. Sorry bud, an English Literature degree doesn't translate into much, you better be here because you love books.
@swimmyswim417 4 жыл бұрын
The Beautiful Little Fool I totally get where you’re coming from. People shouldn’t be half-assing college just to get that piece of paper, there has to be some sort of motivation beyond that. I needed to get out of the academia bubble to find my motivation, and now that I’m back in school I’m engaged and driven to succeed. I can totally respect folks like you who pursue subjects out of love for academia, but I’ve met too many people who are just trying to check off boxes for an “easy degree”.
@ItsAsparageese 4 жыл бұрын
This is encouraging! I've wanted to return for a Healthcare Administration degree for more years than it will take me to earn it, so I feel great about my level of commitment and I know I'll use every bit of information in the career I've been planning for myself for years now, but I worry about whether I'll still be a terrible student since I always was. It means a lot to read a story from another "gifted kid" (personally I identify as "severely gifted" lol) who dropped out of their earlier higher ed attempts and went into trades (I went straight into healthcare as well) and now has a healthy relationship with going to school!
@mardiyas 4 жыл бұрын
I think we should also talk about how cheating is so rampant in our schools. Because students are forced to get high grades ALL the time, they think they have no choice but to cheat.
@Petitfleur_ 4 жыл бұрын
Oooooh as a high school teacher, I have so many thoughts & feelings on this subject! 1. As someone who went to a very small, rural, poor school, I grew up legitimately thinking things like AP/honors courses were just like TV/movie bullshit that wasn't real, like how all the kids in high school shows just spend hours standing around in the halls between classes, because we didn't have anything like that & no one around us did either. It was so weird going to university & finding out those things were real. Anyway. 2. Definitely parents will pressure the HELL out of teachers to give their kids higher grades! We will get calls/emails from parents all the time wanting to know why their child doesn't have an A, or what they can do to earn an A in a class. & it's complete bullshit. 3. Which is why I absolutely HATE GPA's & grades overall! Like, the American education system needs a complete overhaul. Grades mean next to nothing when each teacher in each school across the country has a different idea of what "A work" looks like. They're arbitrary! They're meaningless! Which is what I try to tell my students all the time - doing the work, trying the exercises, that's way more important than getting a high grade the first time around. I've had students who got like a 98% ask me what they can do to improve their grade further - & percentages don't even matter since anything above a 90% is all the same in your GPA. Oh, that also might be one of the reasons why students are graduating with higher GPA's too - I know when I was in high school in like, 2008-2012, our school had what I thought was a pretty standard grading scale that 93% & above was an A, but the school I teach at which seems to be pretty common now it's a 90% & up. Which hey, whatever I again think grades suck but still, could be a contributing factor. Children are under way too much pressure, I just really think we need to change the way high schools & colleges function.
@ppjskh 4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I decided to go to community college and it was probably the best decision I've ever made. I remember senior year they put so much pressure on college admissions and maintaining a high gpa that was unattainable but two years later here I am debt free, chilling and transferring in the spring as a junior. 🙌
@rowdywizard2071 4 жыл бұрын
That's the way to do it! That's what I'm doing too. So much less stressful, especially if it's a smaller technical/community college.
@J3anie 4 жыл бұрын
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@valid4880 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@tessmoffett5512 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is so smart! I went to an incredibly affordable school as well (not community, but very heavily subsidized), and I believe my education was of just as good a quality as any other school. Now, when talking about networking and connections, obviously, you can't beat those Ivy Leagues, but when it comes purely to the education aspect, I believe you can get a great one at tons of places. I think the whole "top-tier school or bust" attitude is completely unnecessary.
@ImmaURq 4 жыл бұрын
Same! And if you can get a job and save up a little it’s so nice knowing that you have that cushion
@amyevans9618 4 жыл бұрын
I love learning and I am ambitious, but I am sick of the idea that you have to check certain boxes in order to 'prove' you are committed to education. It feels sometimes like there is a never ending list of things you are expected to do...
@jack.1. 4 жыл бұрын
And the list is a secret which everyone who is admitted claims to know even though their lists are different. It just seems like a lucky dip to me.
@jaminwaite3867 4 жыл бұрын
I get this esp. bein a person that just likes learning (and doesn’t want to be a teacher)
@user-mt7bt3gs9y 4 жыл бұрын
i can’t believe you have to PAY to TAKE TESTS i- America is so weird
@franziska9260 3 жыл бұрын
There's been one time I had to pay for a test as a Filipino, and it's to take a full ride merit-based scholarship exam that would give the student complete tuition, book allowance, uniform allowance, monthly stipend, housing allowance, and even transportation allowance if you have to move to attend your school. And what I paid for that would be, converted, less than 4 dollars!!
@samanthaemory650 3 жыл бұрын
That's capitalism for ya 😬😬😬 (we are not okay and those who say we're fine are very privileged people).
@samuelgunter 3 жыл бұрын
@Angel S always*
@samueljett7807 3 жыл бұрын
my school paid for everyone to take the SAT. And if finances are a concern, you can get a fee waiver. Other than that, everything College Board has is more or less a scam (AP courses for example)
@appleslover 3 жыл бұрын
Not just America
@DimaRakesah 4 жыл бұрын
When you compare this to the information in the book Kids These Days about how colleges are spending less and less money on professors and quality teachers and more on administration, fancy buildings and sports programs and it really makes no freaking sense. More and more students are being required to reach ever higher standards yet the quality of the education they receive is decreasing. As is the monetary pay off for education, with jobs following the trend of schools and requiring higher education that was never previously needed for those jobs, but for little or no increase in pay. So graduates are working harder to get into college, spending more on college, getting less quality education for it, and making less money with that education. It's completely and utterly nuts.
@DimaRakesah 4 жыл бұрын
@@tiffanyferg Exactly! Yet the need to have a college degree for a decent paying job is going up, even though the quality of education is going down. It's become a system in which the illusion of higher education standards is more important than the actual quality of the education. It almost seems manufactured to cater to the wealthy who can afford all the special classes, the testing, the extra curriculars, not to mention a little bribe here and there just to get the name of a fancy college on their kid's resume.
@jaym6367 4 жыл бұрын
I feel this soo much because I just graduated high school. I had a nearly perfect gpa, took biology AND organic chemistry at a local university in senior year, I had a 34 on my ACT and I was a National Merit finalist all while doing track. I had so many breakdowns and it got soo much worse when i got rejected from my first choice and waitlisted at my next two choices
@juula9469 4 жыл бұрын
My graduation finals cost me a piece of my soul aswell, I feel with you
@dlgraves97 4 жыл бұрын
I had a high GPA and a 35 act, international science fair and varsity athletics and got rejected from all of my “reach” schools and ended up staying home for school at my local university. And after watching my friends at other institutions, I’m so grateful that it worked out this way. I feel like my local school supports me and I feel at home here. I’ve been able to thrive! You never know what will happen. And no matter what it is, you’ll be okay
@raventrunite6459 4 жыл бұрын
overachieving in school ruined my life. i’ve always been an aggressive overachiever, spreading myself incredibly thin with school work, extra circulars, theatre and sport. don’t get me wrong, there were a bunch of other environmental factors including on going mental health conditions, but essentially at the end of year 10 my body couldnt take it anymore, and issued a psychosomatic cry for help. i developed a chronic pain condition, and this disability has forced me to drop out of all activities, attend school part time, postpone my highschool graduation by a year and go on medication with various harmful side effects. so,,,,uh,,,,not saying this is going to happen to you or anything, but these kinds of conditions disproportionately effect teenage girls with a high achieving and anxious personality type ://
@xiiioet3556 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry :(
@aliyahcook3063 4 жыл бұрын
I feel this! I put myself through hell junior senior year just to have a tiny chance of getting accepted and it really hurt when I got rejected from my dream school. I felt like I had wasted the last four years of my life.
@web7014 4 жыл бұрын
I think Asian and African parents went to the same parenting school? The PRESSURE jesus
@chewychibi03 4 жыл бұрын
Willy Shookspeared god. my mother was intense.
@gisellalopez3403 4 жыл бұрын
Latino parents too lol
@kittiikamii 4 жыл бұрын
Right o my god
@bellagl 4 жыл бұрын
Willy Shookspeared AND Hispanic parents smh
@amayapapaya5146 4 жыл бұрын
*all minority parents
@efass6289 4 жыл бұрын
Just got a deferral from yale... honestly perplexed. I’m the valedictorian of my class, captain of sports 2 teams, in all ap’s, almost perfect SAT and subject test scores, run charity clubs, have won both science and writing awards, had an amazing interview at yale, had an internship over the summer at yale, and conducted my own scientific research and received awards for it. Like what more could I possibly do? Give them my right arm and my soul?
@lenatran300 4 жыл бұрын
o. fass deferred isn’t rejected tho!!
@haunting_holly Жыл бұрын
You need to “donate to their library” if you know what I mean.
@sarahhllly 4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I went to a community college. Even though I didn’t get the typical “college experience” my freshman year, I was able to get a 3.5 GPA and get a scholarship to my dream school!!! But if I had applied straight out of high school I probably wouldn’t have even gotten into that school in the first place.
@meijelly 4 жыл бұрын
same!
@nattyvice 4 жыл бұрын
i was also one of those “gifted” kids and by the time i finished high school i was so burnt out from the expectations i had for myself and others had for me. i graduated with a 4.2 and took 6 aps. i’m going into my second year of college and my first year i completely tanked. it ruined my self esteem and confidence in my abilities and it’s still something i’m working on getting back and i really do blame it on the whole gifted student thing. can’t wait to watch your video on that!
@swimmyswim417 4 жыл бұрын
I had a very similar experience as a “formerly-gifted” student, and I quit school altogether for a year after 15 consecutive months of steadily declining college grades. When I came back to school, I started off with just one class to build up my confidence, and built up to more intense courseloads in subsequent quarters. I managed to get all A’s and B’s so far, a significant improvement from the 1.5 GPA I had when I left school. It’ll take me a little longer to get my degree, but I don’t mind taking the extra time if I can preserve my sanity. Idk what your specific situation is or what your course requirements are like, but being able to start off concentrating on excelling in one course and building up from that was really effective in helping me regain my confidence in school. It might be worth considering, especially if you’re open to taking summer courses 🤷♀️
@raventrunite6459 4 жыл бұрын
overachieving in school ruined my life. i’ve always been an aggressive overachiever, spreading myself incredibly thin with school work, extra circulars, theatre and sport. don’t get me wrong, there were a bunch of other environmental factors including on going mental health conditions, but essentially at the end of year 10 my body couldnt take it anymore, and issued a psychosomatic cry for help. i developed a chronic pain condition, and this disability has forced me to drop out of all activities, attend school part time, postpone my highschool graduation by a year and go on medication with various harmful side effects. so,,,,uh,,,,not saying this is going to happen to you or anything, but these kinds of conditions disproportionately effect teenage girls with a high achieving and anxious personality type ://
@HomeAndHappy9999 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh fucking same. Here's to sophomore year being a time when we're a little kinder to ourselves. Are you lightening your load for the fall too?
@squidneythesquid2487 4 жыл бұрын
I crashed my junior of high school (last year) I just got to a point where I lost the motivation to even make myself do the easiest of work, I just wanted to slow everything down. Honestly it was one of the worst years of my life, I’m so done with this shit, I was always towards the topic the class, one the best gifted students, straight A+ , and organized student for my elementary and middle school life, then I went to high school and I’m no longer even close to the top, even tho my gpa is an a average... All due to AP classes that people take to pile up their gpas, AP Physics was the death of me as much as I absolutely loved the teacher,(I got a 2 score on the test, so I’ll get to do it all over again). And as I got older the classes didn’t necessarily get harder, the work load got larger. I have adhd and anxiety and it’s an added struggle to fit the school standard. I hate school
@spacebars9677 4 жыл бұрын
madgirlmuahaha ftc
@Carlos-ln8fd 4 жыл бұрын
I live in a third world country but going to college is really straightforward. Public institutions are well-regarded and tuition free. private ones are expensive but basically free when compared to anything in the US.
@ItsAsparageese 4 жыл бұрын
Hey uhh so tell me more about this third-world country :P
@Carlos-ln8fd 4 жыл бұрын
@@ItsAsparageese Ecuador
@eurekamreum5458 4 жыл бұрын
It's the same here in Mexico, although getting into the country's best university is really hard
@louismartinez9363 4 жыл бұрын
@@eurekamreum5458 Not nearly as hard as here in the US. In the school district where I live 50%+ students are from Latin America (including me) and I've seen cases of students having easy access to places like UNAM, Universidad Nacional de Colombia, UBA and many more suffering to just get accepted to UF. The standards are astronomically different
@Jeanjellybean13 3 жыл бұрын
One of my teachers in my high school found out that if you have weighed GPA below a 4.0 then you are already in the bottom half the class, which is insane. Also as someone who has taken AP classes and came from an AP-heavy school, I will tell you that they are a scam. You hardly get credits and even if you do, it doesn't necessarily mean that you are ready to jump into the next level in your freshman year. The college board literally uses desperate students as a way to make money. I hope that company goes out of business soon
@whospilledmybeans 4 жыл бұрын
when your weak in academics, don’t have extra circulars and low income 😂 AND McDonald’s rejected my application
@someperson5137 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Ma got rejected from KFC It's okay, you'll get there
@emmapierce2807 4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do a video abt gifted kids. I’m very sad and stupid now
@steff6146 4 жыл бұрын
You are not stupid. The notion of compartmentalizing young children into gifted versus non-gifted is inherently problematic, and it's not your fault that you never 'lived up to your potential' because this notion is toxic!! YOU are exactly where you need to be, and you can only focus on becoming better everyday. Don't worry about this arbitrary categories.
@Polynerdeia 4 жыл бұрын
I am sad and stupid too. Internet hugs my friendo
@Wendy-je9zf 4 жыл бұрын
I feel so attacked rn >:,(
@Abc-xm8pb 4 жыл бұрын
Gifted didn’t make a difference in my life I would have still developed good habits for school. I was never competitive or really smart to. Even for most kids in it, it never made a difference in the kids in my school.
@malarkeylaboratories3658 3 жыл бұрын
she did
@kylesugarman 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for talking about this. I worked so hard in high school to get into my dream school and I eventually did, but at the cost of my mental health and my self confidence. I was so busy trying to stay on top of everything that when my best friend suddenly died during my senior year, I only had a day to grieve before I had to jump right back in to keep my grades up and maintain my extracurriculars. That mindset made my first year of college very tough and I wish there wasn't such a high bar set for EVERY applicant to these selective schools.
@jesminea6925 4 жыл бұрын
It's too bad I can't give this a million likes. I'm now exactly where you are busting my butt to get into a namebrand university like the Ivies at the expense of my mental health, overall quality of life, and wellbeing. School is the only thing I care about. I've been so set on the idea that going to Harvard or Johns Hopkins will make me feel like I'm good enough. So, though I have excellent grades, going to school everday breaks my spirit and now nothing makes me happy anymore. I wish things were different. If I had higher self-esteem, I wouldn't feel the overwhelming need to prove that I'm good enough by getting into a single university.
@raventrunite6459 4 жыл бұрын
Sydny Long overachieving in school ruined my life. i’ve always been an aggressive overachiever, spreading myself incredibly thin with school work, extra circulars, theatre and sport. don’t get me wrong, there were a bunch of other environmental factors including on going mental health conditions, but essentially at the end of year 10 my body couldnt take it anymore, and issued a psychosomatic cry for help. i developed a chronic pain condition, and this disability has forced me to drop out of all activities, attend school part time, postpone my highschool graduation by a year and go on medication with various harmful side effects. so,,,,uh,,,,not saying this is going to happen to you or anything, but these kinds of conditions disproportionately effect teenage girls with a high achieving and anxious personality type ://
@JadestonePony 4 жыл бұрын
Raven Trunite Wow, sounds similar to me, though my "Great Crash" happened in college. All of that strain over the years gave me a long term digestive/fatigue disorder, and I had to take a lot of time off, watch all my friends graduate before me, and not achieve all the things I had wanted to achieve. I'd dream of the things I could have been doing if I hadn't been stuck in bed, my body feeling like a worn out old dishcloth... Hang in there friend, it takes time and healing, and a lot of introspection about what you truly want to do with your life (and likely your overachieving brain will try to concoct a lot of lies about what your life is "supposed" to look like or "should have" looked like), but you can still find fulfillment in life. It's just a matter of figuring out what your natural strengths are, what things bring you a sense of fulfillment even if they're little things, and learning how to stay within your limits. And it's ok to take it slow and be imperfect and messy and bad at doing all that. My own road to recovery and self-discovery has taken several years now and is still going on, but my outlook on my life and my prospects has vastly improved as I've gradually shifted my priorities and how I evaluate myself. I believe in you! Your life isn't ruined, you are simply starting a new chapter. It might take several false starts but you can find a new path for yourself. Take care of your health and be kind to yourself, treat yourself as though you were someone you loved and were looking out for them.
@XSandYYYfan 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you addressing how socioeconomic factors can affect what type of pressure/stress you experience as a HS student and I really related to your experience of going to a good school (I went to private) but not having the knowledge and resources that my more affluent peers had. My parents immigrated to the U.S when they were in their 20s and had no knowledge of the U.S college application process. Ultimately it was up to me to figure a lot of those things like financial aid and ACT/SAT test taking while my peers could go to their parents or siblings for advice/aid. One aspect that I think is a huge privilege in the college application process is the ability to travel to visit different schools around the country. I had peers flying or taking road trips during the weekend to see schools on the East/West Coast and my family did not have the financial means to take me anywhere outside of Illinois.
@loganelizabeth4965 4 жыл бұрын
I am going to the school of my dreams: a tiny, liberal arts school in Pennsylvania that happens to have a high acceptance rate of about 65-70%. I went to high school in an extremely well-off and academically superior town, where if you didn't have a 4.5 GPA or 1560 SAT, you were stupid. I got mostly straight As in high school and got a really good SAT score, and chose my college for its superiority in my intended major, for which the program is one of the best, but my classmates continuously put me down because it wasn't a traditionally "good school." They seemed like they pitied me when I said where I was going, as if I couldn't get in anywhere else, rather than just wanting to go there. College admissions culture is extremely toxic and led to an unhealthy environment my senior year of high school, where everything became a competition, and an attitude that anything but an ivy was a "bad school."
@eleanorsmedberg3210 4 жыл бұрын
Logan Elizabeth are you going to juniata?
@JohnPorsbjerg 4 жыл бұрын
the concept of a 5.0 GPA is so silly, your high school GPA says very very very little about what kind of value the work you can do once you graduate from uni is. I failed my maths midterms in high school, i got terrible grades, like i just barely passed, and now i have a 3.5 GPA in uni with somewhat low effort. I meet so many people who did awful in high school and are now the most clever people in their major or make the coolest bachelor projects.
@rinward172 4 жыл бұрын
in my school, the “gifted students” were hand picked to take the gates test. in elementary school, i was really bummed that i didn’t get picked to take the test. now, i’m so glad i never got a chance, since all the gifted kids have either fallen off the bandwagon or are under immense pressure
@jasonrask4085 4 жыл бұрын
rin ward it did nothing for me at all now I have that voice in the back in my head telling me that I should be avoid average even though I’m not
@amiralamb 4 жыл бұрын
I think “tiger parents” are common in both Asian-American families and African-American families. By African-American I mean the African immigrants who came here by choice! There’s a big difference between the two.
@aaliyahfoster2705 3 жыл бұрын
Nigerian parents are the real deal. They expect nothing less than to achieve and balance everything in the world.
@pierceschuyler1517 2 жыл бұрын
YESSS!!! I’m Caribbean-American and it’s the same for me. My Jamaican mother!
@MushroomReaper 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah... don’t I know it, I was labeled gifted with a “high IQ” and it truly messed me up. oh, on top of that... I have AD(H)D that was untreated as a child, which just compounded my feelings of failure. How quick adults are to turn from “your so amazing!” To “what’s wrong with you just pay attention, are you even trying?!?!” Ugh I’m getting ulcers just thinking about it. Edit-typos.
@Jmp599 4 жыл бұрын
MushroomReaper I FEEL THIS omg. I had that with me too; I had like 3 different learning issues (including ADHD) that weren’t diagnosed until May of my junior year lol. Until then it was a lot of being yelled at for my bad habits and just not being happy. Thank god that I found the right college and I’m doing well now, but high school was borderline traumatic for me
@yeeyee5698 4 жыл бұрын
When you think you have pseudo-adhd from depression but your parents refuse to acknowledge it’s existence so you suffer and watch your grades slip as a consequence 👊😧👋😜
@abigailsmith2087 4 жыл бұрын
My high school offered no AP classes, not that I would have been taking them. My school just wouldn’t have enough students/teachers to fill classes. I definitely saw grade inflation at my school. We had 4 valedictorians in my graduating class and that should not be possible.
@kelleyreeves965 4 жыл бұрын
My graduating class had almost 10 😭
@soniacervantesvazquez4428 4 жыл бұрын
I had 4 too, defs feel u
@yeeyee5698 4 жыл бұрын
Ours has none because they got rid of the position after one made a pipe bomb
@driff7146 4 жыл бұрын
yee yee storytime????
@briannaFML 4 жыл бұрын
I went to a high school that pushed college and they would insinuate that working a basic entry-level job was useless/bum work/trash along with my parents saying not going to college was a non-option. I went to a community college right after high school because I was guilted into it and, by no surprise, I failed all of my classes. I got a job, I worked for a couple years and then took a couple community college courses on the side to figure out what I wanted to do. Switched jobs and switched to full-time online classes. Keep in mind I was in school on and off never consistently for a full school year. Now I'm transferring to a university and that's awesome but I'm almost 26 and broke. To sum it up: if you don't know what you want to do work a job, move up, travel, have roommates/hate them/find new roommates, get a cat, find love, meet new people. Then when you're 24 (the age to get financial aid as an independent) maybe go to college. Live your fucking life to the fullest.
@alicestocklistockli8394 3 жыл бұрын
This cycle is literally killing me. I go to an ultra high competitive high school and it’s hell. As 15 year olds we bragged about how little sleep we got and how good our grades were. I’m not dumb I got mostly As and Bs but LIED. About my grades so my peers wouldn’t make fun of me for being dumb. High school has gotten way too intense
@WinterWind 4 жыл бұрын
I'm constantly surprised how hard things seem to be in the US while also being easy. Like most countries don't do the multiple question thing beyond primary school and assessments are in essay format or long form for maths. In my personal experience too I didn't find getting into uni hard at all because it was a calculated score you needed based on your results over your final year and with the system we had you could stack your work to allow you to know in advance that you were safe and accepted. Basically everyone over a certain score gets in. The universities couldn't care less about extracurricular activities either, they don't even ask about them.
@ellaolson6670 4 жыл бұрын
C the US education system is a mess that’s why lol
@eleo_b 4 жыл бұрын
C • that’s a good point! For example, I was an exchange student in France and the level of French of the American students was what we would consider far below high school level, but many of them were French majors. They were studying French at university, but were not even at basic conversation level.
@raventrunite6459 4 жыл бұрын
i feel like the system is pretty great in australia too. rankings don’t come into the mix until years 11 and 12 (the final two years), before then you just get grades (A-E) for each subject. your coursework and end of year exams in year 12 are calculated and scaled against the difficulty of the subjects your taking and the competitiveness of your school. there are definitely some big problems with the ATAR system, like boiling kids down to one score, too highly rewarding exam prep which only tends to happen in private/ selective schools or through paid tutors, and ridiculously high bars for selective areas of study like medicine or law, but it sounds a hell of a lot better than the clusterfuck described in the video
@EC-dg6ti 4 жыл бұрын
Same where im from. Universities dont give af if you do sports 😂😂 that seems ridiculous to me.
@WinterWind 4 жыл бұрын
@@raventrunite6459 I'm in NZ and it's even less complicated. All grades you earn through the year are given a weighted score of 1, 2 or 3 and the entry is set at a rank score of combined points. I knew about halfway through the year that I had enough points to be accepted into uni. For the degree I did it even literally says on the website, "you are guaranteed entry to this programme if you meet these requirements" and lists rank score, potentially required certain subjects for certain majors, and UE (which you would generally already have if you have enough points for the rank score). I found it all very smooth and stress free and I'm so glad it was like that, not what's described in this video.
@ScarlettLinLatt 4 жыл бұрын
Just can't believe how colleges rejected you; it is their HUGE LOSS lol. Here you are now intellectually expanding our minds unlike normal college students😊
@OriginallyKieraMarie 3 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the phrase "not low income enough"? The fact that we can even say that is super weird.
@strawbself 4 жыл бұрын
about ap classes: i went to three different high schools. one was small, in a small town, and offered limited ap courses. some teachers taught certain ap classes on an every other year basis (my bio teacher taught ap environmental science and ap bio). this was hard for HER because she needed to keep up with the curriculum in both courses even when she wasn’t teaching it and it proved a nuisance for the kids who wanted to take the courses because you had to carefully formulate your schedule around the availability of the class(es) you wanted to take. oftentimes, a student’s schedule wouldn’t line up and they’d have to choose to not take the class. the second high school i attended was over two or three times the size of my first one. it is located in an orange county suburb, about 20 minutes away from disneyland. they offered so many ap courses that some students would take 6 in a single year (i only took 3 over the spread of 2 years). i moved to the city and school less than a week before the school year was going to start. i had wanted to take an ap course so i signed up and went to the first week of classes but it quickly became apparent i wouldn’t be able to catch up since they had been assigned summer homework for the class. the teacher gave me an ultimatum and said she didn’t think i could catch up so i dropped the class. it sucked. ap summer homework is unnecessary and unfair. what if a student doesn’t have access to the internet? what if they’re busy enjoying their summer? or working?? what if they have mental health issues or disabilities?? the third school i went to offered no ap classes at all. it is an independent study school that offers online courses and one-on-one time with a teacher. their focus is on working with every student individually and catering to their needs to help them succeed. i really appreciated my time there. i wouldn’t have graduated without them. while i was in high school, no one explained to me how the credits i earned from passing my ap tests would translate to my college major. no one told me that different colleges only accept certain passing scores or that certain ap classes wouldn’t help me in my college career. i ended up wasting money. the worst part? those ap classes i took were LEAGUES more difficult and stressful than any college course i’ve taken so far. i’m a former “gifted kid” too and ap never helped me. it’s an elitist scam. any high school student would be better off doing dual-enrollment and taking gen ed at a local community college.
@strawbself 4 жыл бұрын
NOT TO MENTION!!!!! tests are by no means an accurate representation of someone’s intelligence! the fact that ap tests have large writing portions that are timed always put me at a disadvantage because i naturally write a lot and it takes me time to formulate my thoughts so i would never finish the test in time! so i got a lower score!
@kr3642 4 жыл бұрын
I'm white and I had a lazy-ish tiger mom. She is technically my step mom but my natural mom wasnt around much. They're both my mom but my Asian mom was a consistent part of my life. What I mean by lazy tiger is she had high expectations but it was more of a passive agressive sucess 'motivation' style. If I got an A, the response wasn't positive, it was " thats what you were supposed to do". The other things were super OCD scrutiny of everyday tasks like cleaning. I came out with extremely high preformance anxiety and am an underachiever. My brothers that are her natural children are the same. I wont repeat the cycle.
@joshmakesdrinksandjokes 4 жыл бұрын
I did want to say that not every school weighs GPA the same! Students are compared within the context of their schools when it comes to admissions because schools (like mine) have REALLY WEIRD ways of weighting.
@madeleinejeann 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! My school has a weird 4.5 scale, so whenever I compare my stats to people on youtube, I always felt bad, but in reality, there really isnt a way to compare
@odearflannery7781 4 жыл бұрын
My school does a 7.0 scale
@someperson5137 4 жыл бұрын
And my school has a 100 point scale
@thedoublehelix5661 4 жыл бұрын
Just consider z scores or the number of standard deviations from the mean. That's the objective unweighted score (sort of).
@stickymanatee 3 жыл бұрын
Many schools say they have holistic admissions and consider context but then reject a disproportionate number of low-income students that had less opportunities. Which is awful because low-income students can usually only afford top schools because they give the best financial aid. For example, you pay nothing to go to Rice if you make less that 65,000 but 40% of their students are in the top 5% income.
@noorrunnisa6341 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm in junior year of high school and a low income student in AP classes. Last year I was so worried about the test just because I was like if I fail I will have wasted my mother's prescious 90 bucks. I was literally feeling so horrible but then I was able to get it discounted for just 5 dollars and that took so much pressure off me. It was so funny because I was like is this how people with money feel all the time? They just don't have to worry about it? That's crazy.
@abhart 4 ай бұрын
Btw, now what are u majoring in? Which college u go to? I'm a high school senior and international student applying to USA colleges 💀💀🗣🗣
@madelinevlogs5898 4 жыл бұрын
I’m applying to college right now so this is perfect timing! The application process is much more stressful than I thought it would be
@pepper4481 4 жыл бұрын
It is really stressful but as long as you remember/keep track of the confusing deadlines you can make it through! Speaking from personal experience it'll feel really good when you're just done with everything.
@madelinevlogs5898 4 жыл бұрын
Pepper thanks for the advice!
@emmakohlenberg3774 4 жыл бұрын
Good Luck!
@madelinevlogs5898 4 жыл бұрын
Emma Kohlenberg thanks 😀
@Olivia-uq4ls 4 жыл бұрын
Ugh this is so true. My parents are both professors so even with a 4.5 GPA I always feel like I’m not doing enough. I’m going into my junior year and I’m so stressed about getting into an Ivy League
@gabrielzavala9465 4 жыл бұрын
we all have pressure. I wish i had someone to give me that advice. If you come from a working class family with no degrees you will also have the weight on your shoulders of your family relying on you to succeed
@anonnonny3142 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the “I’m not doing enough” is a big ass mood
@Olivia-uq4ls 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I came back to this comment a year later and I was actually just accepted to an Ivy a few months ago
@sofiap.4744 3 жыл бұрын
@@Olivia-uq4ls I’m just watching this video now, congrats!! Any tips on stress and getting in 😅?
@Olivia-uq4ls 3 жыл бұрын
@@sofiap.4744 Thanks! I wish I had more tips on dealing with the stress tbh. But I’d say 1) Always prioritize sleep, it makes a huge difference. 2) Pick a weird, quirky hobby. I’m a competitive rock climber and I think that definitely helped me stand out, plus climbing was an outlet for me to channel my stress. And 3) Start your essays early! I didn’t start my personal statement until a month before the deadline and it caused me a lot of extra stress. Good luck, I hope this helps!
@VeraBogiari 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the trending heritage DNA tests. I can see both their usefulness in some cases but also the dangers their hidding about shaaring our personal dna.
@karlyxoxo2 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this too!
@liz8215 4 жыл бұрын
the evening before the psat last year, my school sent an email out to every student with the national suicide hotline info...
@panda839578567659610 4 жыл бұрын
this really brings back bad memories from my highschool. I remember my 8th grade english teacher telling us that if we didnt go to college, we would end up homeless drug addicts. that kind of pressure was put on us from so young, and stayed until i graduated. I struggled with a ton of mental health issues in school, because of my life situation and a lot because of the stress from school. I always felt pressured to take more ap courses, even though i could barely afford or pass them. i coulnt fluff up my applications with extracurricular because i was so suicidal and anxious i could barely talk to anyone. I couldn't afford to go to college straight away so im stuck at a dead end job, trying to make enough to at least move out and worry about education later. literally all my school ever did for me was make me more suicidal. omg plus, the way schools deal with kids with mental health issues. that would lowkey be a really good video topic cuz schools really fuck up in that area. im angry about school still even after i left lol
@kimberlycarrillosolares2112 4 жыл бұрын
It's so weird how I can briefly remember taking that test for "gifted" students around the time I was in second grade and just what a big shift it did to how I valued my self-worth as a child? Like I'm 20 now and wonder just how much more different my life would've been if no one put that label on me at such a young age. I think the "gifted" title makes kids believe their value = their grades, and that's pretty terrifying when you think about it. I can remember doing the absolute most in high school because In my mind I NEEDED to get into a good college, while my peers who weren't in these challenging classes simply lived their lives and their value was more than what grades they got.
@emmacat3202 4 жыл бұрын
I got a 3.6 GPA in my senior year of high school, but I got suicidal after finding out my ACT was a 22. It was the straw that broke the camel's back. It was horrible.
@soniacervantesvazquez4428 4 жыл бұрын
Emma Cat I got a 21 on the act and 1240 on the sat and still got into Berkeley, you got this!!!!
@blossomnessstudios4446 4 жыл бұрын
I feel lucky, my high school has a program called 'running start' and basically it lets you take 2 free years of (community) college during your last 2 years of high school. You can substitute high school classes for college classes and get college credits while in high school while still using the same credit to graduate high school. My 2 older sisters are in running start, one graduated this year and the other is graduating next year. I'm planning to do running start with my best friend when the time comes, college is expensive and there is no way my parents could help all of my 6 siblings and I pay for it. I'm hoping that after I finish community college I can either go to culinary school or start working at a restaurant. It's all so scary and overwhelming, especially after my freshman year being cut short by the pandemic.
@thepinksharkgirl9734 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing with college apps opening on August 1!! Thank you for this haha
@kal-muzel875 4 жыл бұрын
.. I'm learning... Didn't know they reopened just thought they were always open 😅
@kokepasu4583 4 жыл бұрын
While i went to a low income high school, they waived the ap test fee for everybody. They also implemented sat/act prep into our writing class curriculum so that everybody got it.
@absolutetrash8118 4 жыл бұрын
Our AP test fee was waived as well, but our ACT prep was on weekends and many couldnt attend bc they had to work
@musicrase66 3 жыл бұрын
I remember wanting to be a “gifted child” ever since I was in elementary school. I remember being pressured to be the top student ever since the first grade. And it absolutely killed me on the inside that no matter how hard I tried, I was never able to reach that expected “gifted child” status and genuinely felt like a failure throughout my entire academic career because I could only be “average”.
@OliviaLOVESPie 4 жыл бұрын
I graduated high school with over a 4.0, over a year of college, worked 40 hours a week since I turned 16 and moved out of my parents house the second semester of my senior year. I got a full ride to college but I had and have pretty much no life outside of work/school :/ definitely shouldn’t have had to do all of that.
@alidiaz2339 4 жыл бұрын
really learning a lot from you... would love to see an update on personal finance! As a broke college student I have very little knowledge on what I should be doing financially lol
@meijelly 4 жыл бұрын
@jenna bean 12$ or more LMAO WHERE?
@CinnamonToast 4 жыл бұрын
@@meijelly I know this is higher than some states, but in Washington (where I live) 12 is minimum wage. I don't think we're unique in that either, there are others that are the same or even higher I think.
@hisamazingg 4 жыл бұрын
There are currently 3 states with a minimum wage of $12: California, Massachusetts, and Washington. The only place with a higher minimum is Washington D.C. at $14. Twenty states still follow the national minimum wage of $7.25. I make just over $8.55 in Ohio. Of course, location does make a difference because the cost of living is going to be lower here than in California or Washington.
@valid4880 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why I’m happy I’m transferring! Transferring has such a bad rep but, it’s a better and inexpensive option
@Munksfan1 4 жыл бұрын
I really relate to your personal upbringing actually cause I went to a public high school in a VERY affluent area although my family is lower-middle class (single immigrant mom, dad is mostly out of the picture). I am so thankful for my high school because they were very generous to me (as someone who wasn’t as privileged as most of my peers) and I really think they gave me an edge in many ways. It infuriates me that other students across the country didn’t receive the same quality of education and opportunities as I did simply because my high school was better funded due to high property taxes and such. I’m barely scratching the surface of the issue here but the education system in this country is literally so unequal and unfair it makes me want to scream. One day, the rampant inequality and corruption in the American education system will be lessened. Hopefully.
@brianaslaubaugh8217 4 жыл бұрын
Our public school didn’t offer any AP classes. So I signed up for 3 test (that were 2 hrs away) and studied for the ALL ON MY OWN. Rural American schools are just as disadvantaged as some urban schools.
@awesome00ification 4 жыл бұрын
you could make a 45 minute video on the history of farts and i would watch intently and then be fired up about the history of farts.
@micaelalue6441 4 жыл бұрын
Emily Mathison honestly
@JohnPorsbjerg 4 жыл бұрын
in Denmark you just apply with your grades lol. I got into one of Europe's top engineering universities (DTU) with my very mediocre high school grades.
@aaliyahfoster2705 3 жыл бұрын
@Intensive Purposes Copenhagen has a huge gentrification and expensive housing problem like what the San Francisco Bay Area is going through right now. A lot of people don't know or don't even talk about it on mass media. A lot of single, studio-renter people even commute over the bridge from Malmo, Sweden into the city for work. For tourism, it's fine. But if you live there, it adds up. (Source: Two of my cousins have lived and currently live in Denmark for military relocation and work respectively.)
@ccknight900 4 жыл бұрын
My school had a suicide epidemic and I'm almost certain the pressures you're talking about here played a huge part, thanks for making this video, its so important
@cerisakatchmart3604 3 жыл бұрын
yikes.
@Sophia-bf3lx 4 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian I feel there is alot less stress put on us for college/university admissions. It's sad how much stress is put on ppl at such a young age.
@ranipriti 4 жыл бұрын
So glad to be born in Switzerland. All the admission to a university requires is a Baccalaureate. And the semester fees are arround $800 And we have a sensational vocational education and training
@NewBlueTrue 4 жыл бұрын
Rani Priti That sounds so much better
@sallytyler2775 4 жыл бұрын
yeah..... but careet advise coming out of high school is terrible. All anyone ever says is “everyone will find their spot” instead of giving grounded career advice based on the current job market. This results in hundreds of people with degrees in biology or sociology not being able to find jobs because there are non for that job market.
@eleo_b 4 жыл бұрын
Rani Priti • similar here in the Netherlands
@AnnaAnna-st2je 4 жыл бұрын
Rani Priti Same in Germany it depends mainly on your a levels but there are other ways to get into that require for example that you have worked previously in the field you want to study. I would say the system is quite fair
@katherinemorelle7115 4 жыл бұрын
The Aussie to university system is also quite different. We don’t have anything like AP courses, though I personally did do a program where I started uni while in yr 12, it was a very small program, not available to everyone. Also, our unis tend to only factor in grades and test scores (back when I was in high school we had OP scores which would place us in categories overall- with OP 1 being the highest). But they tend not to put so much emphasis on extracurriculars- because what difference does that make to the bachelor you’re doing? You also apply to unis for specific degrees, you don’t get in first and then decide. I overextended with the uni and school thing (mental illness plus only being 15), and I dropped out. But, after about ten years, I went back as a mature aged student, and I had a few Open university online courses under my belt. Our uni is expensive. My Law degree would be about $60k all up, but the government pays upfront, and you only repay when you reach a certain income level. Plus, most of our unis are great for distance learning, because we are such a big country, with some areas being massively spread out (that happens when you’re almost the size of the US, but with less than a tenth of the population). But because we do distance, it also makes it far more accessible for disabled students (like me- I can study from my bed, lectures are put online for everyone to watch, and as a disabled student, I can even do my tests in bed. They send out people to watch you take the test in your bedroom if need be. And I’ve done it before). So I think all in all, we are more flexible, and we don’t have quite the amount of pressure. But still, for those on the uni track in yr 12, getting a good OP can be extremely difficult, and put a lot of pressure on kids. And depending on what you want to do, it can matter a lot. If you want to get into human or veterinary medicine, you’ll need an OP not below a 3. Law is about a 3 or 4, depending. And better unis have higher cutoffs. Honestly, it’s so much easier to go do one thing else, do some online Open Uni courses, and get in that way.
@freethegays 4 жыл бұрын
In Canada you get get post secondary education basically no matter what grades you got.
@desp8161 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah BCIT is an example
@truvy_5544 4 жыл бұрын
*gets a ticket to Canada*
@p0lyxena 4 жыл бұрын
I'm almost inclined to agree with this. Mental illness and PTSD ruined the last two years of my high school career, and I still got into one of Canada's top universities. I only took two AP courses and literally failed one of them.
@The4blu 4 жыл бұрын
I’m American and I was accepted to McGill. The application process was so easy I almost cried 😭
@jordanwood6752 4 жыл бұрын
i was so depressed my freshmen and most of my sophomore year, i really struggled to make it out alive. now i'm going into my junior year with a 3.2 and i feel hopeless to go to a good college
@buttertoast8613 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me especially with COVID I really wanted to die. And now I feel like it’s to late. Since it has been 2 years how are you now
@sleepyaugust2182 4 жыл бұрын
And that is why I am terrified of highschool... Simply failing a class or not taking advanced classes in order to susutain my mental health could completely ruin my chances of getting accepted into a decent college.
@magdalenabaumgartner9546 4 жыл бұрын
grad school admissions are ridiculous, especially med, dental, and vet schools.
@bethanymclean2136 4 жыл бұрын
So is music, albeit in a very different way. I play the flute and most programs only take one or two masters students out of the 50-200+ people who apply. It's also a huge cost barrier because you have to travel around the country to audition at every school that you're interested (and application fees, but that's for everything.)
@magdalenabaumgartner9546 4 жыл бұрын
@@bethanymclean2136 Great point! At least when you send in an application you can cry and the adcom will never know! That also reminds me how I know several pre-med and pre-dental students will try to get into our university's music program because they say that dental and med schools like to see that you have good hand dexterity. They had a super hard time even getting into the intro classes because of how competitive it was.
@bethanymclean2136 4 жыл бұрын
@@samanthalee6522 Yeah I definitely spent more than $800 on application fees, also there's like no chance of getting in unless you take a lesson with the teacher at the school, and some people charge upwards of $150-200
@gayaliens6920 4 жыл бұрын
as someone who literally returned yesterday from a 2 week trip touring colleges and also has no idea what to do with their life, this hit HARD
@truvy_5544 4 жыл бұрын
Play it safe do a community college or trade school if you're not sure
@torirazor4097 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you winded up somewhere you loved! Pancake Gerard passes great blessings
@gayaliens6920 3 жыл бұрын
@@torirazor4097 I have actually!! Currently in the middle of my second semester of going to an out of state university for graphic design. I originally commented right before my senior year of high school started. I love the college I chose and it definitely helps that I got a full tuition scholarship lmao. I hope that you enjoy whatever you're doing, too, kind stranger. Pancake Gerard reigns supreme.
@torirazor4097 3 жыл бұрын
@@gayaliens6920 congrats !! I seem to be in the same situation you first commented in, as I’ve just started my college search. Oh how silly bands bring people together. Good luck to the both of us 💖
@natalieeuley1734 4 жыл бұрын
I think a very untalked about result of this is what I will call "grown up burnout". So in high school of course I felt the pressure to get into a good college, and then in college there was the pressure to get a good job. And so in high school and college you do the same things- work, classes, extracurriculars, etc. But then I started working at my supposed dream job. Suddenly, I was living alone and not doing more things than I could keep track of. I now had time with my thoughts and all of the struggles that were in the background are now in the foreground. I have my dream job; shouldn't I be happy? Well, if my happiness came from the drive of accomplishment (which it did), then no. I have not done well at work, and I have had a lot of mental health issues. I am improving for sure, but I hit a serious life wall that I didn't know was coming. I say this as a warning to everyone: focus on being you and what you are good at and love. Grades that are good enough will come with that, but more importantly, you will discover who you actually are, and not hit the "grown up" wall that makes you feel like a failure after a life of success
@MathPiHanan 4 жыл бұрын
Jo Boaler does research with gifted students to clarify the pressure those students feel. Being labeled gifted is just as challenging as being labeled with a learning disability
@LoveAndSnapple 3 жыл бұрын
I tried to explain that on Twitter and they tried to roast me over the flames of the internet.
@rowdywizard2071 4 жыл бұрын
All of my friends throughout school were part of gifted programs. However, I was always put into special learning classes from I think 2nd or 3rd grade to 7th grade, so I was disconnected from them because of that. In elementary school, we were very close, but after we moved onto middle and high school, they sort of left me out of everything they did. I would try to hang out and they just said no and would hang out with each other, posting on social media about it. I'm not sure if their actions were because they just didnt like me or that their gifted program made them feel like they were all important because they got to take all of those fancy AP classes. Either way, those 'friends' made me feel extremely left out because I wasn't in their gifted program.
@scaredstiff7176 4 жыл бұрын
I get where you are coming from. Some people have that mentality when they go into gifted programs. I know when I went into my first honors class, there was a lot of people who looked down on me because I wasn't in the gifted classes before. But over time, people will learn that not everything is dictated by what classes you took in primary or middle school. For your situation, I would suggest getting better friends (If you haven't already). I would join clubs that correlate to things you like rather than academics. You'll find a lot of like minded people in places like that.
@rowdywizard2071 4 жыл бұрын
@@scaredstiff7176 I definitely will once I get into my university. I pretty much left high school my junior year (I mostly took college classes instead of a lot of high school classes.) I'm a junior in college instead of a freshman like all my friends from high school are. I'll be joining clubs and whatnot and making friends in my classes. I've already made a few thankfully.
@scaredstiff7176 4 жыл бұрын
@@rowdywizard2071 That's good to hear. Hope the rest of your college years go well!
@rowdywizard2071 4 жыл бұрын
@@scaredstiff7176 if you're in college/any school, I hope you're doing well too!
@sydneyford6248 4 жыл бұрын
I was a gifted kid in elementary school and them moved to a different middle school. They had a school for the gifted but my mom never took me to take that test so into high school I took the same classes as those kids, made the same grades and took the same test. And yet they all look down on me, I wasn't in their GIFTED middle school. They look at the other kids as less than.
@meghanmary4566 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me so sad! I went to an affluent public high school and graduated seven years ago. The pressure was real, but I've learned that those who burned themselves out from applying to colleges weren't successful in college. I was an active student in high school, but didn't burn myself out and ended up going to a community college my freshman year and went to a top state school from sophomore year to graduation. I was able to enjoy and succeed in college since I wasn't completely burned out from high school and it was totally worth it.
@hillareyborg6024 4 жыл бұрын
I remember high school and how STRESSED I was. I went before school to cheer practice (around 6:30am), then did a full day of school, headed straight for the gym for afternoon cheer practice, then rehearsal for theater, and after cheered at occasional games (depending on the season), then I came home to study and do homework, and my mom would yell at us to “do our chores”. Today I’m a college student with two kids and a full blown house to clean and take care of and when people ask “how do you do college with two kids?!” I just laugh and remember how stressed I was in high school and how my stress now is nowhere near those levels.😂🤷🏻♀️ The pressure for high school kids is rough for sure...
@joannesarsam9557 4 жыл бұрын
i wanna shout out those of us with immigrant parents who DID go to college in their home country, but still don’t understand how the system works here. We have to learn the ropes of the college process with our parents because college in their country is very different from the system here in America.
@atrapdr6251 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tiffany, I love your videos a lot, they're always well thought out and interesting. However that I've noticed that you always second guess your points or undermine your opinions by saying "but I dunno" at the end of them. Please don't underestimate yourself. If you saying something, whether it has facts to back you up, you should always be confident in what you're saying. If something wrong was said you can always correct it later, no biggie. I've realised a lot of women do this and it's starting to be frustrating.
@Mel-um5cb 4 жыл бұрын
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@katherinemorelle7115 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen studies proving your exact point- that women tend to speak using words like “sorry”, or “maybe” or “I’m not sure”, to soften what they are saying. It’s internalised sexist gender roles. Hopefully we can move away from it.
@atrapdr6251 4 жыл бұрын
@@katherinemorelle7115 Really? I'm not sure how to Google it to look for such a thing, can you direct me to the study?
@keesalemon 4 жыл бұрын
I always start sentences with "I think" and "maybe" and finish with "I'm not sure". Its true it's a terrible habit and I feel like I get less respect in my work place because of it
@xiiioet3556 4 жыл бұрын
A Trapdøør I do this. Even if I know something to be true and I’ve seen it with my own two eyes I’ll still say “I think” or “I’m not quite sure”
@At22032 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, right now my gpa is a 3.9 and I'm going to be a junior in high school. I'm stressed about that, I have done volunteer work and partipated in two clubs but not sports. My school only offers very few Ap classes. Goodness the pressure is immense. It is also unfair too, it's a shame that my friend couldn't afford the same opportunity for SAT prep. I really think that University isn't for me, but my parents are going to pressure me to attend.
@saber9402 4 жыл бұрын
I’m going into senior year, but I just want to wish you good luck, please get a lot sleep, avoid all nighters, hang with friends whenever the pressure gets bad, and take care of yourself.
@jasonrask4085 4 жыл бұрын
Amy Zhang dude your chillin a 3.9 is ridiculously good you can get into pretty much any non Ivy League school.
@blossomnessstudios4446 4 жыл бұрын
About a month into High School I got a cold that lasted for about 2 weeks, I was so terrified of falling behind in school I didn't take a single day off to recover. I felt like crap the whole time, my nose was sore and raw from wiping it, I couldn't breathe through my nose, my throat was sore and raw to the extent of making just breathing painful, and the cold mornings walking to the bus stop were no help. It was bad enough that my strict P.E teacher let me sit and rest a a couple of times in her class instead of doing anything. My mom has a rule where she will never make me or my siblings go to school, we could stay home any day we wanted and she'd be fine with it but I made myself go to school even though just breathing and walking was uncomfortable and difficult. Thinking about it now, I might've had the Corona Virus then and not known, I was pretty sure it was just a shock to my immune system because it was my first year of public school. I kind of hope it was Covid-19 because that would make me immune (?) I've had a mild head cold a couple of other times last school year but I've never stayed home to recover from them, academics is really important to me and I had a 4.0 GPA to maintain, no way I could stay home. And the worst part is that I would do it again, if I could go back and relive it I wouldn't change what I did except I would bring more tissues.
@jessicaalmondjoy7706 4 жыл бұрын
First-generation, valedictorian out of 680 students (good public school), 4.85 GPA, 12 AP classes with a 4 or 5 on the test, never lower than an A on my report card, 32 on my ACT test, first singles on the Varsity Tennis team, part-time job at State Farm, involved in community service club, newspaper, and Spanish club, no misdemeanors and stellar reviews from teachers. Still didn't get into the two Ivy Leagues I applied to. I think it was because I hadn't done any research with NASA or invented a phone app. It crushed my hopes/dreams/soul at first, but I turned out fine in the end I guess.
@swimmyswim417 4 жыл бұрын
27:20 If that isn’t a word-for-word description of me at age 16, I don’t know what is. I had to go back to therapy in my jr/sr years of high school because of my disproportionate sense of self-worth and academic achievement. Everybody told me I had “potential”, but I struggled so badly (thanks, ADHD and turbulent home life) that I believed it was because I wasn’t trying hard enough to stay on the same absurdly high academic level as my friends. I relapsed into a major depressive episode shortly after starting college when this mentality hit me again, and I didn’t have my parents or therapist with me at university to help me snap out of it. This toxic mentality doesn’t just affect teens in high school, it follows us into college and early adulthood.
@rachelcoxon385 4 жыл бұрын
madgirlmuahaha This is really similar to my experience of school (I’m in my last year of school in the uk). I’m also ADHD as well as ASD and when i was younger I didn’t do particularly well at school academically but I occasionally did do well in a piece of work, and was told i had ‘potential”. This was true in a way as i did do very well in school for a time, but then it got way more difficult. I now feel a bit like I’ve failed those who believed in my potential.
@courtney8997 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the gifted and talented program. I'm currently about to go to eighth grade and it'll be my 5th year of being in it and I really wanna hear your opinion on the pressures and expectations and how we're constantly being scolded when honors/"regular" classes do better than us.
@ToastyJunebugs 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus, that sounds horrible. They're forcing you to base your OWN worth on another person!!
@absolutetrash8118 4 жыл бұрын
Lemme tell you, those classes were NEVER any different than the normal classes in my experience I have been in gifted and honors classes since i was in 5th grade, and ill be a senior in a month... When i went to normal classes for a year, it was the exact same stuff, just a tad slower and more relaxing for my stressed lil brain.
@courtney8997 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, my 5th grade teacher did a good job of explaining how gifted classes are barely any different than regular classes it's honestly all about "expectations" we have to meet.
@grimeeeeey 4 жыл бұрын
The worst part of it all is that 90% of all the things you learn in school are USELESS. Waste of brain space. How about a class that teaches you to file your own taxes? Or how to get a mortgage? How to get credit? How to keep a good credit score? So tired of the flawed school system that has basically become a daycare for parents who have to work 9-5 jobs.
@misstenacity1878 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on how the school system separates students into different tracks like AP, honors, standard ,etc and the repercussions!
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