dude totally

It's because there's a different kind of projector that can be raised into the same spot in the exact center of the dome theater. That other kind is the star projector that draws all the stars for presentations about astronimy. Because most of these domes were built for astronomy before IMAX existed.

This is what happens when you throw money at engineers and lock the accountant in a cupboard.

Not like they could just have a pannel that pops up to block the light. No move the whole machine

@@wetlettuce4768 as things should be!

sunnyspeed studio yeah with VLC as default

GregLH0 wtf are u saying

IMAX 70mm is equivalent to 18K, so there's no comparison of digital format. yet.

A C he's trying unsuccessfully to sound smart

ll jj at least he tried though

The dvd replaced the 4 track studio tape. They used to have a 4 track tape player like your see in a mastering studio and used the 4 channels of audio for basic surround sound.

Some people may hate me for saying this, but digital has caught up with analogue years ago for quality. Then I'm not saying an mp3 is better than vinyl, but to a signal to noise ratio, there is much less noise in digital in general. Uncompressed (or lossless), 192kHz 24bit audio cannot be matched with anything analogue.

I’m only surprised it wasn’t a blu ray.

@@nextlifeonearth the movie is on film not for any quality reason, it's for storage and archival reasons. You can chuck a film in a cool dry dark cave with no power for centuries and it'll be fine. You're right about digital, but analogue still has it's little niche.

@@alec4672 I was mostly talking about audio. There are digital CDs made of non-organic materials that can last ages too.

so you jinxed the guy

Patrick Howie Good catch. Corrected. 👍

@@Patrick.Howie. we all make errors. Yes, you can tell people to correct them... Just do it politely

here in Australia they're on drives, all digital

@@justdazr5950 Ah nice. Are the movies downloaded or delivered to you?

You would lose a ton of resolution using a digital file. 70mm is equivalent to 18K digital.

Senior Tech of a circuit in the USA here, movies are usually 150GB to 300GB depending on 2K vs 4K. The files are not compressed at all as every frame (24 per second) is its own uncompressed TIFF file, but the color formatting does change anywhere from 8bit to 12bit. Most movies are 12 bit unless they are 3D where they have to drop the color resolution due to playing technically two movies at once (left/right eye) on the processors. I'm not sure 70mm is equivalent to 18K due to the digital editing nowadays along with prints no longer being optically transferred as the days of old, they are printed onto the film with high res printers. I just so happened to have dinner the other night with one of the fathers of IMAX. Not trying to disclaim your findings as certain directors have produced optically transferred films recently such as Tarantino and Nolan in which resolution goes down to the molecule level, way better than 18k.

​@@HighOrbitMediaVideos You'd lose no resolution, you'd just have an enormous file, around 130TB uncompressed according to my napkin maths. While thats large, you'd definitely not need a forklift to move it. Each film would fit into a shoebox.

Jessica It is incredible. Our screen is 82 feet in diameter and covers over 9,000 square feet. Standard theaters seem so small in comparison.

Jessica Our IMAX in Bradford, UK has recently gone digital. Watching the countdown in 3D is utterly stunning! So clear and razor sharp.

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Nope most movie theaters nowadays use digital projectors. Film projectors are a thing of the past.

Hahaha:D

probably only platter systems. Christy > *, BTW

Projectionists have ALWAYS been loyal and quite snobbish when it comes to the better engineered brands. Guys who have Kinoton projectors in their booths are snobs about them,;guys who have Norelco Philips AAs or DP70s think they have a projector that was dropped from heaven directly into their booths. Even the guys who ran Eastman 25B in college thought it was beneath them to even touch a Bell & Howell or Eiki or Elmo...and of course they were all eminently correct!

Fantastic idea. Please share this so we can make that happen.

No, not amazing. Outdated. Not used much anymore, and for a good reason.

You're probably the type of person that goes to vinyl meets and tell them CD is better

what if they had a live stream of them preparing the movie while the crowd waits?

It won't be outdated until we have digital cinema cameras, projectors, and everything in-between in at least 8K resolution.

Are you sure about that?

Imma need sauce for your profile pic bro.

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4K DLP digital projector. You won't need something capable of projecting an image 6 stories tall with a 2000 watt light bulb at home.

You can, just not 70mm film... Building a 35mm film projector really isn't that hard or expensive.

Most IMAX is just digital with the IMAX brand slapped on which is just a scam.

the real thing would be to see a movie actually shot on 70mm, and then projected on 70mm.... but there are only handful of movies ever shot on 70mm film Hateful Eight was probably the last one ever shot on 70mm.

@@KZfaqUser-nd8qv 70mm and IMAX are not the same thing. They use the same film stock, but use it completely differently. 70mm (what Hateful Eight used) runs the film vertically, with each frame being five perforations high. IMAX runs the same film horizontally, with each frame being fifteen perforations wide. An IMAX frame is three times the size of a 70mm frame.

Imax is a scam

@@eksine Usually, but not always. If you're seeing actual 15/70mm IMAX film projected, it's not. Any form of digital projection is a scam, at least until it meets or exceeds 8K resolution.

Theater I work at uses Windows XP on the projector OS as choice. It doesn't play the content but it's still XP lol.

lmfao

@@pryvisee all the computers on the bridge of the set for Star Trek New Voyages (now the Star Trek Set Tour) are running windows xp. I have a picture of the actor playing Scotty (who does the animation screens) programming the screens with the old green start button.

@@pryvisee XP is still a pretty good OS for use as a small non internet connected OS when HDD space and/or processing power is limited

Only some theaters use film as film is more expensive

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Ariya Mangsanhanh great job dude

Ariya Mangsanhanh looks like the biggest pain in the ass ever

Ariya Mangsanhanh same

Same

I'd probably drop sweat on the film

Oh, yeah. No two days are alike as a film projectionist. Sounds like you had some stressful moments.

I thought the audio was on a DVD, not on the film... suspicious!

I worked at a theater back in the early-mid 90's ( I was 16-17) I remember one day someone forgot to put the platter on "payout". So a few mins later the film wraps around the brain, stops, burns then breaks. Talk about a pain in the ass to fix. My sister was actually in the theater watching "The Craft" came out and told me that it just stopped and you could see a hole burn through the film on the screen.

@@scowell dude that's one type of film most of them do have it on it

@@chabka34 On IMax? Not to my knowledge.

Lucky! I would’ve loved to be a projectionist during like 2008-13 when IMAX was regularly releasing 70mm prints.

I'm glad I could bring back some memories for you! It's a crazy system.

man, i sometimes miss the gentle bob of film from traveling thru a mildly worn film gate. but TOTALLY don't miss scratched prints and missplices

The Imax projector was an example of someone saying "how do we do this without compromise?" But it was a total BEAST! Between the pumps to pump the cooling water, the air compressor to form the loop and fans running, you really needed hearing protection. And a bit of "obsessive compulsive disorder about cleanliness!@@HighOrbitMediaVideos

You tell 'em, Chris.

Tyson L wonder why it isn't put on a blu-ray

Jason Lee Because it doesn't need to be. The audio would have to be extremely large to be on Blu-Ray

Kidboy A.G. you seem to be forgetting that 128 lines of audio as for example specific by the Dolby Atmos standard can be in total more than 100GB. You will be going nowhere with a Blu-ray in those cases.

Well, a number of DVDs actually.

Blu-ray didn't exist when IMAX came out, and this is an older theater. Neither did DVD, for that matter, so not sure what original IMAX movies used to store audio. I would guess it was magnetic tape, but that's a guess.

When I worked at the Imax at Great America Park, we had 6 track sound on 35MM mag film that you synced to the projector electronically. No problem. Find the start point on the film and on the sound track and hit the sync switch!

Melissa0774 did this kid have the surname Casey?

We may never know! :O

Melissa0774 I

Melissa0774 yo that’s literally where I saw iMax for the first time at the Franklin institute and I saw a imax thing about a tornado that’s actually so weird lol

Moacir Führ Me too, very impressed

You saw a digital IMAX version of Dunkirk, not this old fashion crap.

This "old fashion crap" has an effective resolution of 12K, whereas digital IMAX is about 2.9K (yup, less than 4K - most digital films that are shot in 4K tend to end up being projected at 2K anyway). Traditional 70mm IMAX film still blows digital out of the water by a long way. There are also plenty of theatres still showing Dunkirk in traditional 70mm IMAX film so there's no reason he couldn't have seen it in this format.

I'll bet Scott Wilkins also thinks cell phones sound better than land lines.

Hahaha, I actually miss my landline because it sounded so much better, though my Verizon updated to HD calling like a year ago and it's on par with what I remember a landline sounding like, though it still has the lag.

I ran 35mm through DP75s for 11 years. Absolute child’s play in comparison to what I just witnessed lol

gabrielle marie imperial , right? I figured it took some work but wow, it's really a LOT of work!

Nima Kabir yeah mate I mean the weight of that film is too much 😧

gabrielle marie imperial

@@nkabir12 nothing compares to a quad video tape machine. Makes this look mike child's play

zhafeco I'm scrolling the comments now trying to figure out what they get paid

I was also curious as to what they were paid. At my last theater I managed (before becoming a full time projectionist for a huge corporation), we showed Dunkirk in 70mm and the studio sent out their own projectionist. Dude was stuck there day and night for two weeks. But I'm willing to bet they made it worth his while.

Thanks watching, Mr. Spock. Please share.

Congratulations, you're exactly who I made this for.

Matt McCarthy they are, for 99% of the time. But there are stil film theatres around and 15/70mm IMAX is the leading technology of them.

Matt McCarthy hello my brother

Matt McCarthy me too… i thought it was litteraly just a computer with a big ass oled display, or at least a nice projector… i never thought theyd still go all old fashion…

Matt McCarthy right now 15/70mm film is better, well, until the digital projection companies step up their shit.

I Am Potato I saw gravity and interstellar in IMAX, truly incredible experiences.

I Am Potato me too

Potatoes got no teeth.

Oooh, I think Blade Runner for me... Then perhaps Blade Runner 2049.

interstellar on imax was fucking amazing when i saw it

Kevin Nguyen don't they use hard drives now? Instead of film

Kevin Nguyen don't they use hard drives now? Instead of film

Kevin Nguyen don't they use hard drives now? Instead of film

Kevin Nguyen don't they use hard drives now? Instead of film

Mario lacolucci cant they still use film now? Instead of hard drives

Thaey are doing that now to IMAX films. They are goingf ALL digital

Digital with IMAX film resolution nowadays would fit into 6, 30.72 tb solid state drives

@@imeakdo7 Six 30.72 TB drives? Six thousand thirty 72 TB drives? Six hundred thirty 72 TB drives? Or just one 6, 30.72 TB drive? Whatever that might mean. I ask because I've got a bunch of 5, 89.24 solid state drives here and I'm trying to save closet space.

@@amarissimus29 there's a comma and a space

Hmmm.... now you are giving us ideas..... dirty films on a bigass screen......

@@vallurirajesh MMm..Yeah.

IMAX 3D!

Lmao 😂😂😂😂 Since when IMAX plays XXX movies?

Didlers..

Better get on that before digital takes over!

Why? Digital is better.

Used to think digital was the way to go in the beginning. Now later on afrer warching Chris Nolan, Quentin Tarantino, and P T Anderson on 70 mm film. Film is better. Digital is way too perfect looking. I love film with grain. Its like people who go back to vinyl for the warm tone even with the scratches and hiss. But the kids these days can't tell the difference because now all its all about the streaming.for music and film.

@@cinergi2003 film is just different. Kt better ir worse. Film has a charm (there is a reason for that) both film and video has good and bad points. They are just different mediums

Yeah, I agree. Super unique job.

My dad started working for Dumont T.V. the longest on air television network in the world (and still is on the air, not as Dumont, but Fox) I began my career in video tape in 1955. I habe worked on EVERY model of video tape machine that AMPEX made. I was the youngest ever to be nominated for an emmy for tape editing at the time as well. I am a proud IATSE member. I never fiddled with film, as it was a process that I felt was old and had no place in Television, since television was an electronic medium. I do find that film has a charm that video can never achieve. I am extremely disappointed that movie theaters are reduced to big screen TV's. Gone are the days of huge 70 foot screens where you were immersed in the film. Radio City Music Hall was one if the greatest movie theaters around and I am glad its still in operation (not as a movie house though) Alas because of corporate greed, there will be no more film. IMAX is going to replace the projectors with laser projectors with content comming from servers. Gone will be projectionists, film labs, distribution centers, duplication houses and all the support companies. Shame

@@rty1955 Agreed. Film has a warmth that video has never and will never achieve, AFAIC. I grew up with film of all types and thanks to a chance meeting with an incredible film expert by the name of Kemp Niver several years ago, I had the opportunity to hold some of Thomas Edison's original motion PICTURES in my hands. His original motion pictures were actually that- strips of photographic paper creating motion by actual strips of sequential images, not the little flip card displays. Kemp also won a technical Oscar award for creating the Rennovaire system, that pin registered each individual frame of the old nitrate films and re-photograph the origiginal onto safe, non flammable celluloid stock so it would survive time and exposure to air. He willed his entire library of Edison's collection to the film library at USC. His equipment is also now in the Smithsonian. I also did a LOT of work with 3-1/4x4 " hand- mounted glass sandwiched slides through the advent of 2x2 slides. The coolest exhibit was using 80- 2x2 slide projectors torecreate full 24FPS motion for the NAVA convention (pre-cursor to INFOCOMM) in 1969. WE cut up a Donald Duck cartoon in 16mm and reshot it frame by frame to 35mm slides. the animation was created by using a 1" mylar tape with puched holes, to change the slides of all those projectors in perfect synchonization. I also installed the first video projector ever used in a federal hearing in Washington, D.C.for the legal hearings of Bob Haldeman (Watergate character) My Dad was also the film editor and projectionist for the Senate hearings into the game show scandals of the 1950s. My uncle was also in the early television industry in the late 50's through the early 80s. He owned his own radio and TV store and installation business in Sandusky, Ohio- 'Bloomquist Radio and TV.'

Good question. It's not necessary as the parts of the film we touch are just the header and tail. There's probably up to 100 feet of "extra" film attached to the movie so we can thread it through the system without touching the actual frames.

High Orbit Media I still feel like he should wear gloves to not damage the film with oil from his fingers.

vamosnippon the part of the film that he touches is blank so it will not be played

Blake Foster ahhh I see it's only the film with those numbers. Cool

vamosnippon pretty sure he knows what he's doing

Appreciate that, Ivan. Please share.

You the man, Nic.

That's true!

I'm not going to lie; I don't mind the digital projections. They look good. And sound wise my sound at home beats any theater anyway, as I prefer good stereo to any kind of surround sound.. But as someone who loves hands on media, I could never work at a digital theater. It just doesn't mean anything to me, really. Sure, it works, sure it's practical and reliable but... Nah. Where's the drama?

@@rollingtroll hahaha... the drama comes when internet is down... But as a former Cinerama projectionist I agree with you give me film anytime. But I have to say at home I have a 2K projector with all the screenformats there are..... also IMAX but flat and 7channel dolby Atmos and DTS-X.... One day I'll be absolete too.... too bad

@@sjoerdbalfoort7170 Let's not forget how bad flat screens once were, and how bad digital video once was (honestly, laserdisc did a pretty good job but that, technically, wasn't all digital). It's gotten so much better already, by the time stuff is obsolete there may be something better. For me personally the only real 'gap' in development of audio/video was vinyl to digital. Sure, digital had its upsides (no surface noise, easy track skipping etc, no wow/flutter.) but the music part of things just wasn't there. By now digital audio has caught up. Sure, there's still not many digital downloads available online that are great, but digital equipment right now is capable of captureing the sound of a vinyl record (it sounds as stupid as it is :D). I'm sure at some point digital video will be good enough to capture the feel of film while being digital. I hope by that time directors will start shooting on film again, mainly, and cinemas will have a digital copy that's (almost) just as good.

Actually today's movies are sent to the theaters on a hard drive to be dumped in the theaters storage system. There is way too much information to "stream" a theatrical movie.

film is an analog format so its resolution is basically infinite. In the same way your eyes dont see at a resolution neither does film.

@@adelinevesecky1817 but the movie ist Filmed Digital. So there are noch sharpness benefits.

@@marcesser4218 depends on the movie but it's not uncommon to film on 70mm and digitize it because you can digitize to any resolution so it's future proof. That's how old movies can be rereleased in 4k

@@81396xman Not the way my local cinema chains work I’m afraid. They have a direct connection to a central server which runs all the films on a high-speed internet connection.

Mine was a little less serious but way way more fun. Monsters Vs Aliens in 3D. Fell in love with movies again after watching it at the Sydney IMAX.

Haha try working a quad video tape machine in broadcast. IMAX is a walk in the park compared to that

Brian Cairns why does it have nothing on a 70 mm? Genuine question.

Rabbitto09 Digital still tops out at 4k resolution (4096x2160) not to be confused with the similar home format UHD that is often incorrectly called 4k but is 3840x2160. Good 35mm prints have more effective resolution than 4k and 70mm being twice as big as that can have twice the effective resolution of 35. So until we have 16k digital projectors (16384x8640) 70mm film wins.

Bullshit. Digital is far better, no matter how "analog" you think you are. I'm not talking consumer digital. Professional digital. How the hell do you think movies are recorded these days????

...Film. A lot are still shot on film because as Daniel illustrated, large format film has much more resolution than digital.

Red cameras 8k 2:4:1 res up to 30fps using a Helium 35.4 megapixel CMOS sensor. They use hotswap SSDs as storage mediums.

thats why most cinemas use liemax or digital imax

Thanks, man. Please share.

I know at my local IMAX (dome type the st. louis science center) theres two reasons. One, for dome types the projection window is actually situated in the seating area because it needs to project at an upward-ish angle. Two, it allows the projection equipment to be an exhibit unto itself in the lobby

@@KingSlimjeezy plus you can use the wasted space under the seating I guess :D

@@KingSlimjeezy Yup, where as normal imax is above the crowd. Because a dome IMAX uses a lens that requires a broad field of view. The projection station is actually central in the seating area. If you made paths to walk there you'd loose seats. So you load it on floor one, raise it to floor 2 and you're good to go.

It depends on design of the building and cost. Is it cheaper to build a second floor room with a heavy lift/elevator for carting all the film reals or to simply keep the room on the ground floor and raise the projector itself, with the film already loaded? I believe the latter is the cheaper option(in most cases).

For a regular flat IMAX theater, yes. For a dome IMAX theater, the projector has to be at the center of the dome, and is surrounded by seats. If you were to build the room high enough to not need a lift, you'd lose the seats on the sides of the projector and above it.

I highly doubt it. Unlike vinyl, the system required to play a 70mm film is huge. It can't really get any more compact than it actually is unless you, you guessed it, make it digital. Anyone can buy a record player but only a select few places can have a fully functional 70mm projector.

High Orbit Media That's a shame. After seeing Rogue One, and a preview for Dunkirk a few days ago, I can say it was a nice experience, and I doubt the closest IMAX Dome to me will show Dunkirk.

And it's hard to find a TRUE IMAX theater these days. Don't be fooled by a digital IMAX. 70mm film still has better clarity than consumer digital. It's best to find out what format a given IMAX theater is playing before you go.

15/70 IMAX FILM ULTIMATE FILMED ENTERTAINMENT

High Orbit Media 125 theatres are getting Dunkirk in 70mm. So it very well could be making a comeback

That's what makes the Everest IMAX film more impressive. Not only did they climb it, but they brought that gigantic camera and film all the up there as well. Incredible.

The cameras are not that big becuase they shoot small sequences and dont have a large film magazine

That projector can only do 24fps.

BigChap J 😂

hornetluca There used to be IMAX film projectors (the system was called “IMAX HD”) that projected 70mm IMAX film at 48fps, but it was never widely used since it costed more, used more film, and put more strain on the projector (Soarin’ at Disney California Adventure and Epcot used the projectors to project the image before it was revamped a couple of years ago).

There is a process called Showscan that runs 70mm film at 60 fps, but it's basically only ever been used for short movies for theme park rides.

hornetluca it's film lol all films are 24fps

Yes, 70mm resolution is better than 4K. It's closer to 18K. The projector is lifted into the theater because it needs to be in the center of the the theater so the fish eye lens can do it's job. So it's not just to show off the gear. We have those giant glass windows to show off the projection booth. Some booths don't give guests that opportunity though.

The Omini theater in St. Paul, at the science museum had a similar arrangement, with a tilted dome. The theater was also a planetarium.

You should look into old quad video tape machines! After working with quads, this is a walk in the park!