The Inglenook Shunting Puzzle - On The Modular Model Railway

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I take on the Inglenook Shunting Puzzle on the Modular Model Railway.
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Last year I made a video where I attempted to solve the Inglenook Shunting Puzzle on my smaller layout Pickwick Yard. Well as this simple game has a huge amount of possible combinations and puzzles to solve I figured I'd have another go at it, this time on the Modular Model Railway.
The Inglenook Shunting Puzzle is a great game you can play on your model railway, especially if you're the sort of person who prefers shunting over watching trains run round in a circle. If like me though, you get a bit bored aimlessly shuffling wagons back and forth then the Inglenook Shunting Puzzle is a great way to add a bit of realism and purpose to your model railway running session.
The aim of the game is to make up a freight train of 5 wagons in a specific order out of a possible 8 wagons. These 8 wagons are spread out over 3 sidings, 2 of which are long enough to hold 3 wagons and the final siding being able to hold 5 wagons. To move your loco between sidings you also have a headshunt (Platform 2 of the station in my case!) and in this you're allowed to have 3 wagons plus your loco. You then have to use the loco to shunt the wagons into the correct order while adhering to these rules before you can dispatch the train.
While some people build layouts specifically to fit the rules of the Inglenook Shunting Puzzle you can also play it on an existing layout using honour rules just like I am here. So if you want to add a bit of variety into your own model railway running sessions, why not have a go at the Inglenook Shunting Puzzle yourself. If you do, let me know how you get on... good luck!
More info on the Inglenook Shunting Puzzle: www.wymann.info/ShuntingPuzzle...
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:45 - The Rules
02:36 - Wagon 1
05:04 - Wagons 2&3
06:50 - Wagon 4
09:32 - Wagon 5
13:34 - Adding A Brakevan
14:57 - The Completed Train
Thanks for watching!

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@andrewharrison5983 2 жыл бұрын

I think heritage railway modelling is probably the best anyone can do, mixing different era's and regional stock

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, it certainly gives you plenty of options! Thanks for watching 😃

@adam_fordham 2 жыл бұрын

That was a great video, love the inglenook shunting puzzle, I play that on my layout and it's always good fun to play and I like watching it as well 👍🏻

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adam, yeah it's a great way to give shunting a purpose on a layout. I find otherwise I just end up shuffling wagons around randomly. Thanks for watching 😃

@eddyweller4503 2 жыл бұрын

Nice little video, enjoyed very much. I'm teaching my 6 year old grandson about shunting ive build a small 4' x 18" board a we have great fun with that, each wagon has a number and we pick or train with a throw of the dice. I'll enjoy watching this again with him it's so nicely explained take care of yourself Eddy xx

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Eddy, that's really great to hear you're getting him into model railways! That sounds like a fun little game in itself so I might try that in the future. Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching 😃

@mandbhomestead 2 жыл бұрын

Job well done. Love watching a running session. Throw in the inglenook shunting puzzle, even better. Thanks for sharing, stay safe. Ken

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ken, really glad you enjoyed it. The Inglenook Shunting Puzzle does add a nice element to a running session, makes it just a little bit more realistic. Thanks for watching 😃

@PebProductions46 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love the Inglenook puzzle so of course I want to see more! I think it would be interesting to do multiple Inglenooks in a row to make up a large freight train for a bigger engine to pull, something like 15 wagons with three puzzles. Maybe you could even use three different shunters for that?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Ooh interesting idea. I like the idea of forming one big long freight train out of multiple completed puzzles... I may have to get a few more wagons though! Thanks for watching 😃

@SouthDown 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant. Thank you!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 😃

@loispadgett6306 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed watching you do the shunting puzzle. Slow and steady means on derailments. GOD BLESS 🚂❤🚂❤🚂❤

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lois, it's certainly good fun and I do like running it at a nice realistic slow speed. Thanks for watching 😃

@redversb2347 2 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks. I have a 1F half cab version and it is a lovely runner.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Ah brilliant, the cab detail is exquisite so I don't blame you! Thanks for watching 😃

@simon.revill 6 ай бұрын

I’ve been recently playing this kind of puzzle with my 8 year old son (before I knew it was a thing and had a name!). We just used two sidings with a short head shunt. Challenges “like sort the mixed rolling stock into carriages and wagons”, or “sort the rolling stock into biggest to smallest”. Good fun and really good to teach problem solving. He aced it straight away!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 6 ай бұрын

Amazing, that's great to hear! I think if it's only two sidings instead of three then technically it's a tuning fork puzzle (given the shape) but in reality who cares what it's called. As long as you and your son are having fun that's main thing - hat's off to both of you! Thanks for watching 😃

@davidcutts2650 2 жыл бұрын

Cool! Do enjoy the shunting puzzle. I have built a dedicated one of my own & it great fun. 👍👍

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing, yeah I do think maybe I should build a small dedicated layout for it at some point too! Thanks for watching 😃

@carltonbirds 6 ай бұрын

Very lovely and relaxing 👍

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 6 ай бұрын

Really glad you enjoyed it. I recently did another one of these videos now that the scenery is done on this section: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLpgZ5l5tpvelXk.html Thanks for watching 😃

@skystriker4459 2 жыл бұрын

I've tried this and it's really hard so props to you for doing it

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

You didn't see all the failed attempts before this one! 😂 It just takes a bit of practice but I do think starting from the back and working forwards is a good trick to get you going. Thanks for watching 👍

@dibsyardshuntinglayout 2 жыл бұрын

I concur about the inglenook. I designed the 3-3-5 inglenook sidings into the track design of my layout. I agree also that it is a great way to give your self a reason to shunt, for those days when you just don't have inspiration, but still want to shunt trains. I have cards printed out so I can pick randomly.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Yeah it's always nice for a layout to have a purpose and the puzzle is so versatile that it could really be used for any situation or theme. I have cards I made up too (I think I showed them in my original video) but visually it was easier to have them on scene for this one so everyone could follow along. Thanks for watching 😃

@lachd2261 2 жыл бұрын

How funny, I did the inglenook puzzle a few weeks back with exactly the same engine! Love the Midland 1F

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, yeah the Midland 1F is a really nice little engine from Bachmann. It's become one of my favourite locos since I put a decoder in it as it's got a really nice consistent slow speed - perfect for shunting! Thanks for watching 😃

@lachd2261 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy yep I managed to get it running nicely on DC on my Kato controller, runs like a dream, probably my favourite Bachmann tank engine. I think people overlook it because of the simple livery

@tomcatable6330 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Great Video, this shows the true potential of a small heritage line station. And you don’t need a huge room to run and shunt your trains. Keep up the great content Cheers

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely and you don't even need a layout as big as this to do the Inglenook Puzzle either, it was originally intended for much smaller layouts! Thanks for watching 😃

@tomcatable6330 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, but thank you for making great content.

@railfanpolska 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work 👍

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching 😃

@nigelcole1936 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video thanks, nicely done with the inglenook shunting puzzle. Would love to see more of the Ruston and perhaps see it running the inglenook challenge please.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nigel! Yes I do need to run the Ruston more. I think it will definitely get it's own chance to take on the Inglenook challenge some day! Thanks for watching 😃

@Nick-vr2pf 2 жыл бұрын

Love the shunting puzzle challenges. Definitely suggest the Ruston for the next one, perhaps with more challenge for the little thing as well!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick, yeah I definitely think the Ruston will have to take on the challenge at some point! Thanks for watching 😃

@StripeyNick 2 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed that! Would love to see a shunting video with the Ruston

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick! I don't think you're alone in wanting to see the Ruston take on the inglenook puzzle so I think once I've got the scenery done in the sidings I'll definitely be doing another of these videos! Thanks for watching 😃

@chrissouthgate4554 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, the Fish Van seems to be prone to jumping, maybe some weight in it? However, you could leave it as is & use it as a track tester. Because part of where its jumping looks like a lump in the track, short length of rail just off the point from the main line. 4:36 shows the location. Hope this helps.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, yeah I'm aware. It's a really old wagon (possibly from the 80s/90s?) which means the wheels and flanges aren't as fine as more modern wagons causing it to jump on the frog of the point. Thanks for watching 😃

@littleuikiku 2 жыл бұрын

Inglenook is always entertaining! :)

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

It is good fun both to watch and operate! Thanks for watching 😃

@vmddew Жыл бұрын

COOL!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 😃

@WesternSignalman 2 жыл бұрын

You can’t beat an inglenook puzzle hours of fun. I have the game Trackz on my iPad which is based on the puzzle not as fun as doing it on a layout but has few extra challenges such as a gunpowder van which will explode if the you couple the loco next to it or an egg van which will only allow 3 shunts before the goods are damaged. Maybe you could consider similar rules next time? Love the smooth running of the 1F, great stuff 👍

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Oh cool, that sounds like a really interesting way to modify the original game. Yeah I may definitely have to look into adding those elements in if I do this in the future. Thanks for watching 😃

@TheWoodlandhoBo 2 жыл бұрын

I have an 8x2 shunting layout. Definitely trying this. 👍🏻

@darkfrag83 2 жыл бұрын

Wow....thats quite a large shunting layout..sounds fun. If you have more space then as long as the ratio of wagons is kept the same you can add more wagons.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, great to hear you're giving it a go. I think it's a fantastic way to entertain yourself on a shunting layout! Thanks for watching 😃

@TheWoodlandhoBo 2 жыл бұрын

@@darkfrag83 great idea. I could even double head the locos👍🏻

@zacharycave5221 2 жыл бұрын

I've been running Inglenook puzzles on my new shelftop layout and it's a lot of fun. Having some trouble with stalling over a PECO SL-90 double slipswitch at slower speeds though. For context it's most notorious for the Hornby 0-6-0 terrier and the W4 Peckett tank engines. My J15 seems to manage fine. Any advice on fixing this? Love your work.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Zachary, I would check to make sure that the double slip is laid completely flat and not bowing at all. I had similar trouble with mine initially because of this as it would cause the smaller locos to lift some of their wheels off the track. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 😃

@tagsdm 2 жыл бұрын

Nicely done, there, That Model Railway Guy. Most enjoyable to watch. The 1F is a gem. You're sure right in that just shuffling wagons at random can get tedious very quickly. Much better to have a plan of attack, so to speak. However, may I ask if using a second loco to tack on the brake van violates the Inglenook principle? Of course, you'd have to back the whole train to the brake van otherwise. I'll be attempting this on a (virtual) layout shortly, no doubt.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, yeah the 1F is a really nice model - a very simple loco but done to a high standard. When I brought in the Ruston at the end I was kind of considering the challenge over at that point. In the rules for the Inglenook Puzzle it doesn't say anything about adding a brakevan so really I was just doing it to have some fun. Thanks for watching 😃

@samuelives20 2 жыл бұрын

Please show us how you modified your Ruston, and please give us more of these inglenook videos, or maybe have a look at some other puzzles. Great video as always.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Samuel, the Ruston isn't modified at all. The only thing I've done to it is put a decoder inside so I can run it on DCC. Thanks for watching 😃

@gregmacdonald927 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job. Just learnt about Inglenook about a year ago from your Pickwick yard video, and have been enjoying the problem solving fun of it. Can you tell me, is it insulfrog or electro frog points you use? Thanks and well done on your subscriber increase.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Greg, glad you enjoyed both videos! I use insulfrog points on both layouts. Makes the wiring much more simple and I don't have any trouble with locos stalling as long as I keep the track clean. Thanks for watching 😃

@johnland7318 2 жыл бұрын

Someone else commented about the Fish van jumping about, it appears to jump over the check rails on the point leading to Siding 2? One cure could be checking the wheel guage??? I've built a 5-3-3 Inglenook board, as a starting point towards building a modular rail layout. The number of wagon positions possible with 5 wagons picked out of 8 wagons is 6000+, but sorting all 8 wagons !! into a new order has 40,000 combinations, plenty of fun!!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey John, yeah it's just an old wagon with rather large flanges so it doesn't like the more finer modern points. Nice, an Inglenook board definitely sounds like a good starting point for a modular railway and you're right there are plenty of combinations to keep you busy! Best of luck with it and thanks for watching 😃

@johnland7318 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I am gearing up to swop out, some Triang wheel sets for modern axles. My Lima wagons will also be visiting the bench for adjustment, I think a Parkside underframe might be involved, keep up the good work with the videos. J

@meddie79 Жыл бұрын

Are there any other shunting puzzles you tried or enjoyed. Would to see more ideas to incorporate into a layout

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

The only other one I know of is the Timesaver Shunting Puzzle, which it would be nice to base a layout around someday. Thanks for watching 😃

@Trainator33860 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, don't worry about the locomotives from diferent railways because (I'm Spanish) and I use Spanish, French, and German rolling stock (even knowing that it's imposible in real Life because the gauges are diferent) and I've got a British Railway crossing. (Also, sorry about wrong writting I have my keyboard in Spanish so it doesn't allow me to write normaly in English)

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

I think I've already got so many 00 gauge models it would be difficult to find space for an HO collection too 😅 Thanks for watching 👍

@Sparky129 2 жыл бұрын

This is another awesome Shunting puzzle video, but I would like to see if a small tender engine could also do this. I understand tank engines are the best for this, but your sidings in this video seem big enough for a tender engine to navigate as well. Otherwise, loved the video. And great engine choice for it too.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thank You! Yeah it's definitely possible to do it with tender engines too. The main thing for me is that the loco is a good runner at slow speeds so perhaps the Hornby J15 or the new Bachmann 812 would be good candidates for the job! Thanks for watching 😃

@Sparky129 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Yeah, the J15 was the first thing I thought of as well. It does seem very controllable from what I've seen.

@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp 2 жыл бұрын

Good video ... but more fun and easier with "Kay-Dee" couplers

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks William, although it depends on the couplings. Everyone has their own preference. Thanks for watching 😃

@lautanbintangempatlima8350 2 жыл бұрын

I played this puzzle in a free model railway planner (3d train studio v6) and use colored wagon&tankers and used wheel color randomizer(yeah i dont have any model railway) :,)

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, that sounds like a great way of still having a go at the puzzle even if you don't have a layout (yet?) 😉 Thanks for watching 👍

@davidparker2724 Жыл бұрын

Have you got a track plan or plan view of this inglenook? I cant quite understand it from the video

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

Hi David, I'm using my existing layout to complete the puzzle here. If you want more info on the official Inglenook track plan there's a link in the description to a handy website that goes through everything in much more detail. Thanks for watching 😃

@keithpenfold9151 2 жыл бұрын

Love the video. I have a smaller version - 4' X1' with three sidings. My rules are a 5 wagon train in siding 3, siding 1 allows a max of 3 wagons, siding 2 max 2 wagons. All good fun. One question - how do you uncouple your wagons?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, sounds like the perfect little layout for a bit of shunting! As I mentioned in the video I just do it by hand at moment and cut those parts out of the video but I do have a plant incorporate remote uncoupling in the future. Thanks for watching 😃

@axelthebrit992 2 жыл бұрын

lovely video my chap. very entertaining. do you have any tips for modelling.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it! You're in luck, I have a whole playlist of tips and tricks that you might find interesting: kzfaq.info/sun/PLrxCs5t2FkmweZR00co6oAjVnmKC_k_KT Thanks for watching 😃

@axelthebrit992 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy wow thanks laddie. have a great day.

@moorwatch9654 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent as always 👍 Once the modular model railway is complete will you take it to exhibitions?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I never really intended it for it to go to exhibitions (I didn't consider my modelling skills up to scratch!) but never say never. There is a possibility it might make an appearance in public at some point. Thanks for watching 😃

@moorwatch9654 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy lol I think we can safely say your skills are up to scratch!

@TimsBitsnPieces Жыл бұрын

That blue "Fine Fish" wagon doesn't like your points, every time it goes over or through a set of points, it jumps.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

Yep it's an old wagon now with large wheel flanges which causes it to ride up on the points. Thanks for watching 😃

@trainswithnickyt Жыл бұрын

A bit late to the show, but I'd love to see anything involving the Ruston

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

The Ruston is great isn't it! I'm undecided as to whether to get an 88DS when Hornby eventually release them but I certainly love my little 48DS - I must give it a run more often. Thanks for watching 😃

@trainswithnickyt Жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy I'm slowly building up a collection of Customs, living in Lincoln it would be almost rude not to

@darkfrag83 2 жыл бұрын

Am I right in thinking you have used insulfrog points despite running with dcc?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Matt, that's correct. The layout is used mostly for DCC but does run DC on occasion too. I found that using insulfrog points made the wiring a lot more simple and even the small Ruston doesn't have any trouble with stalling on them. Thanks for watching 😃

@LeoStarrenburg Жыл бұрын

I'm trying to get to grips with the Inglenook puzzle. At 10:00 you have 4 wagons in the siding, does the "3 maximum" only count for the stationary wagons ?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

Hi Leo, yep the rule is for stationary wagons that you can leave in a siding. If I was on a purpose build Inglenook layout then 3 wagons would be the maximum I could fit in the siding without fouling the points. Hope that makes sense and thanks for watching 😃

@LeoStarrenburg Жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Thank you 👍

@richardclowes6123 Жыл бұрын

Hi, aren't you supposed to pick numbers out and apply them to certain wagons so that you know which order they should end up in ??? Saw the wagon positions at the top of vid but not sure how you came by that configuration. Still enjoyed the vid though. Thanks.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, yes that’s the general idea. This is actually a follow up to my original Inglenook shunting video and in that one I made up cards with a picture of each wagon on which were picked at random. I did that off camera this time with the order being shown at the top of the screen instead so everyone could follow along. Hope that makes sense and thanks for watching😃

@Christiane069 Жыл бұрын

I like rule number one.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

It's a good rule 👌 Thanks for watching 😃

@torefeller774 2 жыл бұрын

Next time you do This challenge can you use the ruston? Please

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I think I'll definitely have to! It's the perfect little engine for this challenge, small but a great runner especially at slow speeds - just what you need for shunting. Thanks for watching 😃

@torefeller774 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy your welcome love your vids

@torefeller774 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy and can you do a running session with the caledonien 812 pulling 3-5 MK1/2 coaches? And other requests?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

@@torefeller774 I usually take requests when I do my livestreams. In fact I think we had the 812 running with some Mk1 coaches on the one just before New Year.

@torefeller774 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy oh My bad

@righteyeblink8996 Жыл бұрын

Layout size, and gauge ? thank you.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

It's 00 gauge and this is on my modular layout so how big it is really depends on how I have it setup. The standard inglenook puzzle layout is designed to fit in an inglenook though - hence the name. Thanks for watching 😃

@righteyeblink8996 Жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy thank you.

@400knockout 2 жыл бұрын

Think you broke the rules, you have 4 wagons in the siding, not the max of 3 as you state.... you have scarwood through to Arnold's sand in the 1 siding

@darkfrag83 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. The front siding is allowed 5 wagons in it in total. 2 sidings are only allowed 3 wagons and 1 is allowed 5

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey there, as Matt Berry has pointed out, Siding 1 (the one closest to the camera) is allowed 5 wagons max... otherwise it would be impossible to put together a 5 wagon train. Sorry if I didn't make that clear when I went over the rules at the start. Thanks for watching 😃

@400knockout 2 жыл бұрын

Yes sorry, I read siding 3 as 5 wagons and siding 1 as 3 wagons. My bad and good job, as always a pleasure to watch regardless 🙂

@dibley1973 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't it funny how we have been groomed by Hornby over the last two years to believe that £70 is a now good bargain for a tiny shunter. I really cannot imagine many parents considering introducing their children to the hobby these days. I assume when my generation and the generation below me die off so will the hobby.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

If you're referring to the Midland 1F that I said was a bargain it's actually a Bachmann model so I think it's a bit unfair to blame Hornby for that. That said I do agree that rising prices are not great for newcomers... I think there's a great opportunity for someone to come out with a proper beginners range of locos and rolling stock - like the Railroad range but with better prices. Thanks for watching 😃