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The Inglenook Shunting Puzzle - Pickwick Yard - 00 Gauge Model Railway Layout

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That Model Railway Guy

That Model Railway Guy

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The Inglenook Shunting Puzzle on Pickwick Yard my 00 Gauge Model Railway.
Today's running session is one with a bit of a twist. The Inglenook Shunting Puzzle is a shunting game you can play with your layout that requires you to shunt wagons into a randomly selected order before a train can be dispatched. It's great for micro layouts and small shunting layouts like mine since you only need three sidings and a few wagons and it adds a real purpose to the shunting on your layout.
In this video I quickly explain all the rules (repeated below) before doing a very quick demonstration to show you how it all works in practice. Some people like to treat this purely as a puzzle that has to be solved as quickly as possible or others like to use it to add a bit of variation into their operating sessions and realistically shunt a train into whatever order is required. Either way it's great fun that definitely keeps you occupied!
The Inglenook Shunting Puzzle:
With 8 wagons on your layout, choose 5 at random to be shunted into a train in the order specified. (Fewer wagons can be used to make the puzzle easier!)
The Rules:
-Only use one loco.
-Wagons must be selected at random. Either use cards as demonstrated in the video or assign each wagon a number and use a random number generator.
-Wagons must be shunted into the same order as specified when selected.
-You are allowed to use three sidings to shunt your wagons. Two of these can hold three wagons at maximum while the third siding is allowed to hold five.
-The headshunt can hold your loco and three wagons at maximum.
Some people choose to build their own Inglenook Sidings layout that matches these rules (ie: only three sidings, sidings only long enough to hold three or five wagons, etc) but you can also use your own layout and play using honour rules like I'm doing. The sidings on Pickwick Yard for example can hold more than three wagons but to play the puzzle properly I still stick the rules.
You can also remove wagons from the layout to make things easier. For example I only use seven in the video to make the puzzle easier to solve and definitely not because I forgot I needed to use eight wagons! In the meantime, I do hope you enjoy this video and let me know if you give this a try on your own layout.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:51 - The Rules
02:59 - Demonstration
10:08 - Final Thoughts & Conclusion
Thanks for watching!

Пікірлер: 140
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Want to see see more trains running on Pickwick Yard? Here's a handy playlist for you: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i5OgYLdpzNm3gJc.html 🚂
@russellbenton2987
@russellbenton2987 3 жыл бұрын
Good one . Yes very restful and therapeutic shunting . I used to love watching shunting at model railway exhibitions . Better if there is some purpose to it , which is where the game comes in .
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Russell. Yes I find you can only push wagons around aimlessly for so long before it gets a bit old so that's the beauty of this puzzle. Not only does it give the running session a purpose but it makes it feel more realistic too! Thanks for watching 😃
@Trainsvr
@Trainsvr 10 ай бұрын
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@StandardGoose
@StandardGoose 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting idea. I enjoy shunting as a logic game. Shunting in general is basically the classic thought exercise about the man trying to carry a hen, a dog and a bag of corn across a river.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You know I’d never thought about it like that before, that’s a great comparison. It definitely makes the layout feel more realistic to me as there’s a purpose to the operations instead of just moving wagons around randomly. Thanks for watching 😃
@CraftyFoxe
@CraftyFoxe 3 жыл бұрын
Great analogy, though isn't it a fox not a dog?
@StandardGoose
@StandardGoose 3 жыл бұрын
@@CraftyFoxe I've heard both, but I've never heard of a chicken farmer with a pet fox.
@CraftyFoxe
@CraftyFoxe 3 жыл бұрын
@@StandardGoose pah logic! :)
@HamStrains
@HamStrains 2 жыл бұрын
It's an idea thats been around since 1979 in this form, but probably existed in other forms before this. Think it sorta passed a lot of youtubers who do railways by until very recently because its not a train going around a track. But it certainly involves more brain power and can be a lot more fun on a budget than trying to set up a layout where you can run 8 coach trains around and around.
@robertmyers5269
@robertmyers5269 2 жыл бұрын
I love the hidden pauses to throw the points and uncouple. Give a really smooth non-distracting demo of the puzzle. Nice slow speed on the loco too.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert, yeah the layout was never built to be displayed so everything is done manually. As you noticed though, a little bit of camera trickery allows me to keep the video moving without having to pause every few seconds 😊 Thanks for watching 👍
@KC-shunting
@KC-shunting Жыл бұрын
This is the sort of shunting I love watching (and doing). That layout (and the story behind it) is fantastic.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын
The Inglenook puzzle is a good one for keeping a layout fresh. I must do another of these videos soon! Thanks for watching 😃
@vikingofengland
@vikingofengland Жыл бұрын
Look like a great time killer! Something I might look at building in the future.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it's a great way of giving your running sessions a purpose too if you're not keen on mindless shunting. Thanks for watching 😃
@thomasedwards5700
@thomasedwards5700 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea. My son will love playing this game on my layout.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Problem solving for kids with all the fun of model railways - sounds like you'll both have a lot of fun. Thanks for watching 😃
@MrLosttheplot
@MrLosttheplot Жыл бұрын
hi, another great video. ive been playing with the inglenook on my shelf layout, youve inspired me, thanks
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to hear it's given you some inspiration. I definitely think the inglenook layout is a great starting point for those who don't have a lot of space. Thanks for watching 😀
@MrDCWood
@MrDCWood 3 жыл бұрын
Goods Van with Birds-Eye Fish Fingers… Nice. 👍🏻
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, indeed! I've had that one since I was a kid so it's a bit beaten up but it runs well and who doesn't like Fish Fingers! 😂 Thanks for watching 👍
@petertate5741
@petertate5741 3 жыл бұрын
Great little puzzle on the best small shunting layout I've seen 😎
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter, you're too kind! I'm always amazed at how much of a following Pickwick Yard has built up. Just shows that some basic techniques and recycling old materials can still capture people's interest and imagination. Thanks for watching 😃
@Theoriginalborgy
@Theoriginalborgy 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not normally a fan of running sessions but I enjoyed this. I like the cards you made for randomizing the train. I need to look up layouts for this puzzle.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Leigh, yes it's nice when there's a bit of a purpose or a puzzle to solve. The cards are very handy too, you could achieve the same outcome with a random number generator but it's nice to have something visual to reference. Thanks for watching 😃
@darkfrag83
@darkfrag83 2 жыл бұрын
Just revisited this video, prompted by the latest live stream.....made me realise I could operate my own shunting plank as an Inglenook....don't know why I didn't realise before.....
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, you'd be surprised at just how many layouts can be used for the Inglenook as long as you play by honour rules. It's a good game, hours of fun and stops you from just doing mindless shunting too! Thanks for watching 😃
@rodvisman5984
@rodvisman5984 3 жыл бұрын
That was great to watch, and a terrific demonstration on how a micro layout can still be engaging. Inspired to have a go at building something similar now!
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank Rod, really glad you enjoyed it. Great to hear that's it's inspired you to have a go a making something yourself too. For reference this layout only took me a couple of days to build so you could have trains up and running in no time at all! Thanks for watching 😃
@SouthDown
@SouthDown 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's quite an impressive yet compact set up. The flat structures on the backdrop really blend in nicely with the cardstock buildings. Big fan of British-style layouts, they have had a huge impact on my own. Looking forward in keeping up with this channel.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! So glad you like the layout, it does provide a lot of interest for something so simple. You may be interested in this video I made recently which shows how Pickwick Yard all fits together: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ecyRarlly960YaM.html Best of luck with your own layout and thanks for watching 😃
@davidsheriff8989
@davidsheriff8989 11 ай бұрын
Steady work....love it...
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 😃
@sailingschooners8668
@sailingschooners8668 2 жыл бұрын
Neat idea for shunting....
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely keeps things interesting! Thanks for watching 😃
@zacharyspinks6207
@zacharyspinks6207 3 жыл бұрын
One word, Genius!, that is well done.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
The puzzle itself or my ability to shunt it? 😂 It is a great way to pass the time on a layout though, endless combinations so more than a few hours of fun! Thanks for watching 👍
@kmanison
@kmanison 3 жыл бұрын
I have a couple of Inglenook apps on my phone and play while waiting in Bank lines or to check out at the super market! I like to form trains of 5, 6, 7, and8 wagons in sequence. The lines are long here! One day I will build a shunting layout, but getting stuff to Jamaica is expensive. Pickwick has been a real inspiration for me. The only change I would incorporate is a run-around loop somewhere. Keep up these wonderful videos! Thanks.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
That's brilliant, it never even occurred to me you could play on an app! Certainly a good idea if an actual layout isn't possible at the moment. Really glad to hear Pickwick Yard has inspired you though and fingers crossed it won't be too long before you can build your own layout. Thanks for watching 😃
@JAMESDEMU-RailwayModeller
@JAMESDEMU-RailwayModeller 3 жыл бұрын
Done quite a few of these over the years. Always fun to build and operate.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
They are good fun! I've never built a layout specifically for the inglenook puzzle but I do enjoy playing using "honour rules" on my existing layouts whenever I can. Thanks for watching 😃
@JAMESDEMU-RailwayModeller
@JAMESDEMU-RailwayModeller 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy every time anyone has asked me to design and/or build them a layout I always try to include an inglenook or time-saver puzzle into the design. Guaranteed operation and hours of fun with only two points and some random stock. Have you done a tuning fork layout yet?
@ingor.522
@ingor.522 2 жыл бұрын
I am still planning a combination of a timesaver with inglenook sidings and a railway traject ferry on my fictional private coastal railway company in the year of 1908 close to the baltic Eastsea at Luebeck in northern germany. Additional passenger service makes it more interesting for me. I enjoy such shunting or marshalling layouts very much.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, definitely sounds like there's a lot of interest there in one layout! Thanks for watching 😃
@chriswilson2431
@chriswilson2431 2 жыл бұрын
This looks great fun!
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
It certainly is Chris! If you like shunting it's a good way to have fun with a model railway in a really small space so definitely worth a go. Thanks for watching 😃
@josecordoba5621
@josecordoba5621 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks for sharing. I have a purpose built Ingelnook layout. It's only 900mm by 300 and it's actually my first micro layout. It's amazing how much fun you can have with such a minimalist track layout. Also I have introduced this game to a few friends with no room for any real layout. That's until they had a go at my layout and ended up building their own! I'm more then sure a few more will join in the fun of the Ingellnook shunting puzzle after watching your video. Great stuff!
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jose, that's great to hear you have a purpose built Inglenook layout and are inspiring your friends to build their own. I do think it challenges the idea that a layout has to be a big circuit in order to have fun. But where there's a purpose or a puzzle to solve, shunting wagons around a yard can be just as entertaining - if not better. Thanks for watching 😃
@keithpenfold9151
@keithpenfold9151 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I started with model railways in 2019 and created a small test layout. The idea was to see if I could lay track, do ballast, etc. Anyhow the design was on the Inglenook puzzle idea, but I was not sure about the 'rules', so this has been very helpful. Keith
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear this Keith, so glad you found the video helpful. Hopefully it'll will open up a whole new world of operations on your layout, I know it did for mine. Thanks for watching 😃
@Sandlingjunction
@Sandlingjunction 3 жыл бұрын
a lot of fun and creates purpose as you said, cheers Paul at Sandling Junction
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. Absolutely, keeps the mind working too so it's good all round in my book! Thanks for watching 😃
@CraftyFoxe
@CraftyFoxe 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to try this out one day
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely recommend it! It's great fun and a really easy way to get started considering how small and simple it can be. Thanks for watching 😃
@davidparker2724
@davidparker2724 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy I have been quietly looking at the model railway hobby for years, not daring to dip my toe in as i wasnt certain which way to go. This idea however might just be the way in i need!!!! I thought an Inglnook was a type of layout not a puzzle.... learned something today!
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidparker2724 Hey David! Yes Inglenook refers to both the puzzle and the layout - the layout essentially is just built to fit the rules of the puzzle (if that makes sense) but you can play the puzzle on any layout just like I've done here. It's definitely a good subject for a first layout though as it's fairly simple to construct and has a tried and tested method of operation too. If you're considering getting into building something of your own I'd definitely recommend the Inglenook puzzle as a good place to start. Thanks for watching 😃
@davidparker2724
@davidparker2724 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy is there a layout plan of the standard Inglenook design to follow, maybe even giving track peices required?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
David Parker Try this: www.wymann.info/ShuntingPuzzles/Inglenook/inglenook-trackplan.html I used that website when I was doing research for this video as there’s loads of info about the Inglenook puzzle and it’s origin. That link though is to a page specifically about the track plan so hope that helps. 😊
@andrewjditton
@andrewjditton 3 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable as ever. Having seen ‘Inglenook’ banded about so much I never really knew of the science behind it till now. Something I can try with my boxfile layout. As a bit of constructive feedback, while I know we all have the right to try and recoup a few pennies with some Adsense, I did find all the adverts throughout spoiled the flow and prevented getting lost in the content. Hope you take this as it is intended. Cheers.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew, yes it's a common term in model railways but I reckon most people probably think it's more complicated than it actually is which is why I wanted to do a video on it. Thanks for the heads up about the ads too. So far everything's been set to automatic so Google is deciding where the ads show up but now that you've mentioned it I'll have a look into changing that. Thanks for watching 😃
@scottsaich576
@scottsaich576 3 жыл бұрын
This was great to see I will try it myself
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott, really glad you enjoyed it and hope you have fun trying it on your own layout. Thanks for watching 😃
@keithgilham9438
@keithgilham9438 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video inspired me to make one
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome Keith! Best of luck with your layout and thanks for watching 😃
@williamvanalen9414
@williamvanalen9414 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, would love to see another taking it up a notch like David Hyde’s video on goods operations.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’d definitely like to have a go at something like that in the future. Maybe when I finish building my new layout I can have goods trains running between that and Pickwick Yard with shunting taking place at each end! Thanks for watching 😃
@a.r.productions
@a.r.productions 3 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting indeed. I'll definitely be trying this on my shunting layout :D
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It definitely is a fun little puzzle to try out and they don't tend to take too long either so perfect if you've only got 10-15 mins to do a quick bit of shunting. Thanks for watching 😃
@matthew_thefallen
@matthew_thefallen 3 жыл бұрын
Did somebody say shunting puzzle!? :D Wow the P class looks great at shunting! just beautiful! And yes, i will probably use this puzzle very soon, i was just thinking about it a few days ago!
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
The P Class is brilliant, like I mentioned in my review of it last week it's so controllable at slow speeds so it was the perfect choice for this video. Thanks for watching 😃
@davidcutts2650
@davidcutts2650 3 жыл бұрын
Layout looks great. Nice demo too. I am in the process of building an inglenook in oo gauge. Being a n gauge modeller for some time. Just subbed.👍👍
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! That's great to hear, hope you have fun with your new 00 Gauge layout. Thanks for watching and subscribing too 😃
@MrLosttheplot
@MrLosttheplot 3 жыл бұрын
thanks, great video. i will try that later today.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Andy! These little puzzles are fun to incorporate into a running session so hope you have a good time trying it yourself. Thanks for watching 😃
@SvenTSchixe
@SvenTSchixe Жыл бұрын
How does the locomotive know when to couple and uncouple without other car uncoupling as well? Great video buddy!!!🤙🍻🇨🇦
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын
All the uncoupling is done by hand in this video but you can build remote uncoupling into a layout if you want to. Thanks for watching 😃
@handlaidtracksand3dprinted922
@handlaidtracksand3dprinted922 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely layout, looks very nice in operation! I posted a description of the Inglenook yesterday as well. You can make it to any length if you keep the sidings to the proper ratios. I'm adding my Inglenook Wye to that unused track at the bottom of your Timesaver layout. (that is the plan anyway...)
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes I'm quite pleased with how the layout turned out considering I threw it together in a weekend! That's good to know about adjusting the siding lengths and ratios though. Could definitely be good for those trying the puzzle on an existing layout which has longer sidings. Thanks for watching 😃
@capmodesty
@capmodesty 3 жыл бұрын
I'm testing out layout ideas and a shunting puzzle was something I played around with. ordering my baseboard soon so am going to definitely incoproate this into the sidings and station of what will be a small rural town my J70 can run around
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds brilliant! A small station with a shunting puzzle built in sounds like the best of both worlds there and perfect for the J70. Might have to try building one myself now. Best of luck with the build and thanks for watching 😃
@Northerner_Transport_Hub
@Northerner_Transport_Hub 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, love the video, really interesting. Will be doing this when my gaugemaster controller comes back to me repaired
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, really glad you want to give it a go yourself - although I'll be honest I thought Gaugemaster controllers were bombproof! Fingers crossed it's back soon and thanks for watching 😃
@Mrkbk2008
@Mrkbk2008 2 жыл бұрын
When I go to my grandad I’ll try this!
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, that sounds like a great idea! You could even set each other puzzles and see who can complete it the quickest! Have fun and thanks for watching 😃
@Mrkbk2008
@Mrkbk2008 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy that’s a really good idea, thank you!
@billybean8911
@billybean8911 3 жыл бұрын
Epic mate once again
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 😃
@awesomealbertt1150
@awesomealbertt1150 2 жыл бұрын
You’re using the same loco that Sam’s trains used in his: The return of the inglenook shunting challenge. Talking of Sam’s trains, you should do a collaboration with him.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes... interesting to note that his video came out a few months after mine 😜 I'd definitely be up for doing a collaboration with Sam in the future though if he wanted to! Thanks for watching 👍
@lewiscartwright3609
@lewiscartwright3609 3 жыл бұрын
For the inglenook shunting puzzle could you use Coaches instead of wagons or is it just for wagons
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Lewis, it was originally intended for wagons so it would fit into the smallest space possible but if you want to do it with coaches I say go for it! There's nothing to stop you and it would be really interesting to see carriages shunted together to form a train this way. You just need to make sure your sidings are long enough to take 3 and 5 coaches at a time, so you'll need a bit more space. Thanks for watching 😃
@lewiscartwright3609
@lewiscartwright3609 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy thank you so much for taking your time to read this comment when I said coaches I meant the 4 wheeled and 6 wheeled coaches
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 3 жыл бұрын
That was really good, I do love a nice bit of shunting. You are right about the P class, did you ever see my slow speed test?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes actually I have seen your video, really impressive stuff. Can't wait to get the P Class on my DCC layout now so I can test it over a longer distance. Thanks for watching 😃
@richardgranados-rueda7077
@richardgranados-rueda7077 2 жыл бұрын
How do you do that awesome hands free uncoupling? Is it part of the loco or track?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, in this video it was being done by "The Hand Of God" so not hands free I'm afraid - those parts were just edited out of the video. Usually though I use little strips of plastic to create an invisible ramp that lifts up the tension locks and gives pretty much the same effect. Thanks for watching 😃
@cadser0engco
@cadser0engco 2 жыл бұрын
Great model. Are the points live frog or dead? How do the couplings un join?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, the points are all dead insulfrogs (many of them secondhand) but as you can see the P Class has no trouble with them at all. For uncoupling it was the "hand of god" but I cut those parts out of the video 😉 Thanks for watching 👍
@stephenfoster7257
@stephenfoster7257 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting BUT are these set rules for the 'inglenook shunting puzzle'? If I were to build a model with a yard having different wagons surely I may have longer sidings yet still have a puzzle to get a train in the right order. In reality there must have been puzzles at some stations giving 'inglenook problems' but not to that siding length. Can someone explain please?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Stephen, I don’t think the Inglenook Shunting Puzzle was ever used in reality - just for model railways. There’s no set lengths for the sidings, in fact I think the rules just state the sidings must be 3 and 5 Wagons long. It’s deliberately vague as if you have a modern layout 3 Wagons will be bigger/longer than the Wagons on a steam era layout. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 😃
@stephenfoster7257
@stephenfoster7257 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy, in a real setting of a station yard, particularly in a rural setting, I am sure a shunting puzzle would exist in that delivered wagons from a 'pick up goods' train would probably arrive in the wrong order for where in the layout they could be attended to; such as cattle dock, milk platform, coal staithes. The inglenook puzzle is probably trickier than the real world, but with a model railway similar restrictions of siding lenth are probable.
@foxhillrailway2252
@foxhillrailway2252 3 жыл бұрын
Hi ya Mate... I'm gonna say it I could watch that puzzle all day... Heard abt it before, but never really played it in my layout... Guess where I am going? cheers 👍🏻🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂Neil
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Neil! It's a really great way to keep things interesting on the layout without it feeling too contrived so I definitely recommend having a go. There's something like 40,000 possible combinations too so should last a while! Thanks for watching 😃
@dragonboi173
@dragonboi173 Жыл бұрын
How is he switching points and coupling and uncoupling the trains?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын
Just by using my hands and the power of editing 😉 Thanks for watching 👍
@alfredbarten4901
@alfredbarten4901 3 жыл бұрын
This is great. What do you use for uncoupling and turnout control?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Alfred! In this video the points and uncoupling were done by hand, I just cut those parts out of the video. Usually I use this simple method of uncoupling though: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fuCEZrNj1b_Xo6c.html Thanks for watching 😃
@alfredbarten4901
@alfredbarten4901 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That’s I was planning to do. I’m planning my first switching layout now.
@thiruraj3866
@thiruraj3866 3 жыл бұрын
Shunting do be calming tho
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
It really is! As much as I love seeing a big express engine with several carriages wizzing round there's something wonderful about watching a humble tank engine push wagons round a yard. Thanks for watching 😃
@RoofRailways101train
@RoofRailways101train 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely video, I know your videos pride in their simplicity to follow along for the novice, but do you think you’ll ever do a wiring video for DCC. I’m talking a long prob 30-40 min one going into all the details of DCC wiring
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, really glad you enjoyed it! Possibly but I think I'd struggle to find enough to talk about for a 30min video on DCC. In the meantime you'll definitely want to check out my two latest videos - the most recent Model Railway Basics episode was all about wiring so I talk about DCC in that and the Modular Railway update that I uploaded yesterday has a big section on how I'm wiring up the layout for DCC so those definitely touch on the subject. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 😃
@mewsdo
@mewsdo 3 жыл бұрын
How did you uncouple? Is it one of your invisible plastic ramps...? Very satisfying watching.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Usually I use the ramps but in this instance as I was uncoupling in odd places I just did it by hand and cut those sections out of each clip to keep the video moving. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching 😃
@mewsdo
@mewsdo 3 жыл бұрын
Aha....
@barrytaylor1060
@barrytaylor1060 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Hi, I really enjoyed the video and was wondering how you uncoupled the wagons as I couldn’t see any ramps, then I noticed the breaks in the video at the crucial moments! I am sure your layout would be ideal to incorporate perhaps just two uncoupling positions using delayed magnetic uncoupling system that I have developed and use on my layout It is demonstrated on a small test track by two short videos under MRTEE DELAY and STAY UNCOUPLING on KZfaq. 😲
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
​@@barrytaylor1060 Thanks Barry, glad you enjoyed it. I usually use clear plastic strips for uncoupling (See here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fuCEZrNj1b_Xo6c.html ) as I like to keep everything on this layout as simple as possible. For this video though I was uncoupling in different places so I did it by hand and just cut those sections out. Thanks for watching 😃
@davidparker2724
@davidparker2724 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. What coupling/uncouplers have you used on this layout? They seem to work very well!
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi David, in this video it was just the hand of god and clever editing. In the past though I have used a cheap and unobtrusive way of uncoupling as seen in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fuCEZrNj1b_Xo6c.html Hope that helps and thanks for watching 😃
@tomward3656
@tomward3656 3 жыл бұрын
A very interesting video. I fancy doing an inglenook shunting puzzle of my own. Roughly how long would the board need to be. Thank you
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom. I think the original was 4ft x 1ft although mine is slightly longer since it was really designed with Inglenook shunting in mind. Thanks for watching 😃
@matthewc.419
@matthewc.419 2 жыл бұрын
What if though the wagons had been in a different order to start with then is it still possible to do ???????
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matthew, yep it doesn't matter which order the wagons are in or which order the cards come out it's always possible to solve the puzzle. That's the beauty of the inglenook challenge, there's plenty of combinations to solve so there's no chance of running out. Thanks for watching 😃
@matthewc.419
@matthewc.419 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy thanks For the demo , iv allways wanted to know just how and why ....inklenook exsist in real life too yeah ??? At the same track lengths ????? Im a complete novice see !!!!!! My track plans !!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I would love to make a small shunting layout ft a scrap yard ....etc Or a small station end , both based in the mid to late 80s when british railways were broke !!!!!! Take care man
@salinibagchi4370
@salinibagchi4370 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a shunting session for the LBSC E2?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there, no the engine I'm using in this video is an SE&CR P Class. Thanks for watching 😃
@stuartclement1506
@stuartclement1506 3 жыл бұрын
How are you uncoupling the wagons?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Stuart, in this video I'm just did it by hand and cut those parts out of the video. If you look closely you can see where the edits are. That said, usually I use this nifty little trick for uncoupling on the layout: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fuCEZrNj1b_Xo6c.html Thanks for watching 😃
@twonkfieldrailways4110
@twonkfieldrailways4110 3 жыл бұрын
This is great though I think my layout might be a little bit too small for 8 wagons it's only got one siding but it dose have a run round loop. But I'm building a bigger layout based on watchet station that has a little harbour which I might build as an Inglenook
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, I do love a run round loop! Part of me wishes I'd included one on Pickwick Yard but then I quite like the challenge of not having one. I'd say it's definitely worth looking into including the inglenook on your new layout if you can though... just don't try to force it in if there's no space. Thanks for watching 😃
@twonkfieldrailways4110
@twonkfieldrailways4110 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy yeah I enjoy a good challenge when shunting but I definitely want to give a nice open feel to my new layout, so I'll definitely use your advice considering how great your layouts are coming out so far.
@AyebeeMk2
@AyebeeMk2 2 жыл бұрын
SAFETY ALERT! No Guards van!
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
No need for one when you're just shunting 😉 Thanks for watching 👍
@AyebeeMk2
@AyebeeMk2 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Ah but when it moves off as a complete train at the end.... hope there are no gradients on your layout...
@roguerailroader4132
@roguerailroader4132 2 жыл бұрын
That seemed a bit too convenient for a puzzle but guess they all can’t be hard 😏
@ThatModelRailwayGuy
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, yeah but wants to see me struggling for an hour to solve a puzzle. A lot of them can be quite simple anyway if you have a little bit of a system to solve it. Thanks for watching 😃
@roguerailroader4132
@roguerailroader4132 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy haha yeah I’ve seen Sam do the same thing and I’m just surprised how easy it can be
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