Forget Guilliman, I want the returned, changed Lion to catch wind of not only the Inquisition, but the deathwatch's actions here.

Kryptman was excommunicated for more than "just" Octarius" he purged hundreds more loyal worlds as to creat a fire-break for the Tyranids. His excommunication was very valid. Octarius is an enormous problem, it's not solved, the fighting is spreading, the Nids appears to be winning pt. So yes, he failed and is now hunted as a traitor.

Forget Guilliman or even Johnson finding out about this. If the Kharn, or worse, Vulkan returned and learned of this, civil war would be absolutely certain.

Nevermind gulliman, the inquisition now has to worry about *The Lion’s* wrath since he’s taken it upon himself to defend baseline humanity.

I think a confrontation between the Inquisition and The Primarchs it’s inevitable.

The situation in the Octarius system had been drawn into a stalemate. The cordon that the Inquisition established after Kryptmans downfall, was full of holes. But to add to matters, Khorne took a brief interest in the Octarius situation. A brief appearance by a Khornate deamon army to break the dead lock, things took a turn for the worst.

The Inquisition vs Guilliman and likely the Lion is think is inevitable. As much as he hates the Ecclesiarchy and the Imperial Faith, guilliman has come to accept its importance in maintanining the imperium so far. He knows it is all lies but sometimes that is what people need to hear to keep them fighting. The Inquisition provides no such service and can be quite reasonably viewed as a threat to the imperium itself. The question then becomes who has the higher authority: those who claim to carry out the Emperor's will or the ones He calls his sons.

Not gunna lie, as much as the Inquisition is one of my favourite factions in Warhammer, I would like to see a story where they get a big ol preverbial Spanking or serving of Humble Pie and that it be Public knowledge and not a hidden fact!

loving inquisiton lore at moment, can't wait to see how it pans out with the lion.

This situation could be used as a starting point for healing the rift between the wolves and the lions. As for Gillman, I doubt he would openly do anything against the inquisition do to their power base at this time, because it could spark a second civil war. Also, he's to pragmatic and will treat this in the same way he treated the gods blight virus. The Lion on the other was built for situations just like this one.

I just want Russ to return and discover they tried to attack Fenris. The Inquisitions leadership is living on borrowed time.

So... they excomunicated Kryptmann and than began to do basicly the same thing he did... fascinating.

You didn't mention the best part of him lying to Uriel, see the Ultramarines had found these refineries over a gas giant and placed in the path of the hive ships that were coming to that planet, waited until one of the hive ships were starting to eat before detonating it instantly killing one and a huge number of hive ships allowing them to easily take out the other. This mission probably had the fewest casualties of any mission Uriel ever embarked on and it was for nothing because the planet it was buying time for was bombed out of existence. Them taking those two ships out being helpful is dubious at best because it also caused the Imperial Guard to try the refinery trick again in the final battle not realizing that Tyranids know what happened last time and won't fall for the same trick twice so the Tyranids hurled it into the middle of the defensive lines and set it off taking out their flag ship.

I want a second civil war between the primarchs and the eclesiarchy/ inquisition. Having Johnson smash some inquisitors would be awesome and cathartic.

Kryptmann: "exterminatus is excessive in the moment but will save the imperium in the long run" Deathwatch: "heretic!!! ... so anyway, we gonna nuke 20 planets to save the imperium in the long run" I dont know why I am annoyed, its not like the inquisition hasn't been hypocritical af in the past already.

Excellent content and views as always. The scale of these conflicts always erked me. Millions? New York City today has Millions. A solar system of humans would count into the Trillions or more. Million lives? Nothing. Love when the Nids and Orcs clash!

We can see an Imperium civil war if even another Primarch returned. Taking out the Inquisition, & Eclisiarchy alone would be a monumental task with their fingers in every planet & eyes everywhere. If the Imperium wasn't facing just overwhelming external threats the internal issues would be an amazing story arc as the Primarchs try to rebuild the Emperor's dream.

Okay, this point has always seemed extremely derpy to me. How did BOTH the tyranids and the orks emerge stronger while fighting one another? The orks are extremely vast in number but not infinite, especially not when sustaining very likely massive casualties fighting the tyranids. And likewise, the tyranids might be able to grow with each devoured world but how many worlds do they get to devour with an entire ork empire battling them?

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The Lion to the inquisistion "I bet you say its "to save a thousend more worlds" everytime to absolve your sins

The Imperium needs Rogal Dorn to return. Well lets face it. I think it's end times so we need every single Primarch to return. But Rogal is my guy. The Black Templars numbers are going to help save the galaxy.

This method made me think back to Freespace, one of the last classic space flight sims, specifically to the Ancients cutscenes.

The most logical race to me who will triumph seems to be the orks. Orks, like some already said, release spores that grow faster the waaagh increases. Also orks like to pass the word of a guud fight through the galaxy, and warbands and their warbosses come to join. They travel inside asteroids who can easily pass any screening, and also use their "spaceship" to smash into their opponents as weapon. Thats how Ghazghkull has fresh reinforcements in Armaggedon, not only his warband, he only makes clear he is the Boss. Old Ones created Orks to fight the hordes of daemons in the past, and they were effective. Imperium estimated that the number of orks in the galaxy is immense, and that only internal fighting keeps them from uniting, and their estimate of ork numbers is still very modest. (there are ork spores in asteroids floating in space!) Tyranids always had the upper hand against Orks because Orks rarely fought them in a constant waagh, they isolated the Warboss and cut him down, orks went in disarray and were easy targets. But the chilling part is that the Warboss in Octarius, is growing in size, is learning the Tyranids way, and gathering a massive Waagh host... and escapes assassination atempts (maybe learned the hard way with the nids!). At this point only Ghazghkull could smash his head and take the Octarius Waagh! Leviathan Hive Ships if destroyed take considerable time to grow, and its worse if no worlds are there to consumed. Leviathan seem not be able to signal other Hive Fleets to join the fray. But Leviathan seems to be pushed to the limit and adapting fast! But nothing beats Plot Armour!! so... we must wait and see whats best for GW Business! Nice Vid.

That was a good one. Thanks bro.

Love hearing this. Wolf lord painting club!

Awesome story. Thank you. The more stories like this the more Alpha Legion makes sense.

Not even trying to evacuate whatever small numbers they could is where it is no longer justifiable.

Guilliman and the Lion will have to suffer the Inquisition until the Emperor’s Executioner returns. Once the Lord of Fenris meets them. they’ll have no choice but to unleash him to his grim duty.

When the gray knights kill, loyal imperial subjects, no one bats an eye, but when the death watch, does everyone loses their minds

Fanstastic vid as always

Great content as always! With over 300+ books out, can you do a top 20 books/series recommended reads.

To me it sounds like a back up plan in case plan a failed because there’s no guarantee that the primary plan would work.

You should make a video about what two primarchs is the best to if possible erradicating the Tyranid Leviathan fleet together. I would say Dorn and The Khan. If Traitors before the HH are aviable i would say Perturabo and The Lion.

For the Wolflord!

Kryptman: boom time baby! Inquisition: *shocked pikachu face* Inquisition: "lord Johnson! Look at this lunatic!" The Lion: my ni.....

In the lore, I’m pretty sure it explicitly states he evacuated the planets.

Death watch last requisition. 240 nova Cannon shells, 480 cyclonic torpedoes, 500 stasis mines, 5,000 Phosphex bombs, 50 vortex bombs, 5 star fortress.

He went into Commorah with a sould shard of big E and despite what Kitten says, its cannon lol

Kryptman after the sheer failure. "Well, that was fun. Who's up for Chinese?"

And yes Guilliman would crush the Inqusituon if he had the support and if he could not The Lion would. 1 Primarch is a problem for the Inqusition 2 Primarchs and it can be gameover at any time. Lets take an example that the Inquisition tries to Kill The Lion or Roboute the other one would ran amok

'For the War Master!'

Anyone know the source for the thumbnail art?

First like than watch 😁😉

i hope they add more models from 40k to kill team like dreadnoughts and others for example have 1 dreadnought and 1 any other operative like if you have 1 dreadnought or centurion you can take only 1 or 2 additional operative🙂😀

"Yes inquisitor, this inquisitor right here" *Spider man pointing meme*

Ashurbanipal? Last great king of Assyria.

Of course it will blow up in the Inquisition's face. Blowback is as old as the first great game between rival powers since the rise of the first states.

Would he dare? That is not a serious question right? He would be calculating and still do what is needed. Nay i hate to see what the lion would do! Their would be no doubt and Robute would be by his brothers side in this!

I think waiting for the world to be lost, and THEN exterminating it would have made more sense than the firebreak methodology

Heresy!!!! The emperor protects!!!!

How powerful would Choas if they got power from the dumb dumb decisions the Inquisition makes?

Thing is kryptman didnt fail. He brought the imperium time, had he not the tyranids would have used their new biomass to snowball into a force that would have likely taken the entirety of the imperiums might to destroy. Lets be honest its unlikely the imperium would ever be able to concentrate and to ignore its other wars enough to actually do so. Add to that hindsight and what would have happened had they actually did, it would have essentially lost at least half the imperium once the great rift happened and whatever military was fighting them was isolated from the half of the imperium on the otherside of the rift. We can clearly say kryptmann saved the imperium for realsies with his actions.

Of course he would cross the Inquisition! He has the gray Knights on his side! And the custodians

Watchmaster was probably a former Marine Malevolent. Also people say Guilliman's reforms failed because "hurr durr mah leahdgionz" while Space Marine chapters helped keep Imperium in one piece while as planned - minimizing scale of any force of space marines going Chaos. Meanwhile Malcador ideas like regular human led Imperium and Inquisition are failing again and again - "MALCADOR TEH HEROEH" - we do not deserve good lore.

What would the presence of even a Primarch accomplish here on the sheer scale of the forces involved? Heck, what would the *EMPEROR'S* presence even accomplish. I doubt even the full powered Emperor would have been able to stop both forces converging upon one world let alone an entire system assuming he had the same resources the deathwatch had on hand. Even if the Emperor could shield the entire world he was on, and kill every xenos upon it, that's saving 1 out of over twenty worlds. And then the 'nids would become several times more numerous in the system and the orcs would rally even greater armies. The point is, even with returning Primarchs, unless they come up with a plan to cut off the 'nid hivemind at the root, then they are done.

The inperial night lords just copyed the traiter night lords, are the death watch traitors now too? raven gaurd night lords?

The inquisition is very odd as are the Astarte loyalty to it. Bunch of mortals playing god with peoples lives and not seeming to achieve a tonne.

Why would the inquisition and deathwatch copy him if they didnt want it the 1st time?/do it because of the 1 that started it?

The inquisition a failure ? Heresy 😂

Theirs no heresy here. What do you think watch brother Alpharius.

Brain wiped ? Has happened before with inquisitors

Wait doesn't 10th Edition state the Tyranids won the Octarius War?

That's why space marines are known as Angels of death.

Still getting the messages that prizes are won.

Please let the Primarchs slap around the inquisition

Damn I'm bad at math what i expected: 1-1=0 what happened: 1×1=☠

I mean .... It did work didn't it....

Genius level move by the hero Kryptman, if not for his gamble the Imperium would already be dead and mankind exterminated.

Ok, so what is so special about Octarius that it can't be Terminated? I mean, we've already come this far. Yes, the populations purged were innocent but they served a purpose. It wasn't murder for murder's sake. It was a sacrifice of the few for the many.

The Ordo Hereticus finds your lack of faith… disturbing.

The Tyranids won the Octarius war.

Sounds awful and I would agree against any other faction, but as the Tyranids are probably the biggest threat, dropping a system doesn’t seem to bad.

CIA: Warhammer 40k

P U R G E T H E I N Q U I S I T I O N

Right or not, it was the correct call. 🤷🏿‍♂️

6:11 Kryptman did not fail. He bought the imperium centuries if not a millenium

Awe I liked the Deathwatch cause they weren't the Inquisitions bitch like the Grey Knights. Now how it goes

Didn't really care on this one

This is boring grimderp justifying previous boring grimderp. Classic GW writing.

If the Imperium kept attacking them in the rear it would make sense leaving them to it would not

Inquisitor lord, is a rank. Lord inquisitor would be a title only one person could hold. 40k doesnt have a lord inquisitor, it has inquisitor lords.