School and normal jobs are so full of pain and still you don’t get paid like celebs sorry i will never feel sorry for famous people

Desert Moon lee Most kpop idols are actually in debt to their record companies. They’re forced to pay back the company for anything they were given while they were trainees (let’s not forget they’re often trainees anywhere from 2 to 10 years) like room and board. Sometimes they don’t even get proper royalties from albums sales so they might never be able to pay them back or they don’t get paid for the work they did for YEARS. Imagine working these grueling hours and not getting paid a cent till years later. It’s really gross.

@@dramaqueen465 but they chose to do this job, it’s not for everyone.

Ten’s Favorite Fruit No those are predatory practices and inhumane working conditions. Therefore for it’s not “right” for anyone. A lot of them sign young (usually teens) and desperate to make their dream come true. The companies take advantage of that. I don’t think they fully understand what they’re getting into even if they’ve heard and seen things. They might think they can tough it out for their dream. We shouldn’t accept bad things just because they’re the norm. Some of these idols are even forced to be escorts to the wealthy or even do sex work. It’s really messed up and something needs to change. Hollywood had similar issues back in the 20s and 30s when it was new (still does to some extent) until artists started forming unions that would advocate for their rights. Now they have strict laws in place for how long people can work and how they get paid. The same needs to happen in Korea. And one day it will, once the artists have had enough. Though, with K-Pop getting more popular and lucrative I’m sure it will get worse before it finally gets better. Just want to include that idols and actors have died from this treatment. I can’t remember the group but several members of a girl group died in a car accident a few years ago. They had been working from sun up till the early hours the next day, going from a shoot to filming for a show. The members and their manager had not had any sleep and for some reason many companies have the manager playing chauffeur. The manger fell asleep at the wheel and there was a car accident that killed several of the members and injured the rest. I can’t remember if the manager had survived. A similar accident happened to an actress because her overworked and exhausted manager had been driving. Luckily survived, sustaining a broken arm. She also suffered with PTSD and had to go to therapy because she was afraid of getting into cars. Let’s not forget that many idols/actors have died from suicide. Clearly something needs to change. Edit: clarification

@@phansaxtiger They didn't choose to be ripped off. For example my cousin worked for Whattaburger (they were hiring) but they often short changed his check. It took him a couple of years to change jobs.

It's because there being coached, groups like big bang, twice all went through the same thing too find there voice and style. Yg it's just better at bringing out the singers voices, jyp said the same thing in shows "every one can sing, its just finding the right sound and technique . They might just want to evaluate the way they help there trainees discovering there voices.

But they even mentioned that the girls are not attractive then other bands

@@flamezodiac5736 um.....SORRY WHAT. DID THEY EVEN SEE THEIR OWN FACE??!!!!

Its the same with every girl- or boyband in the music industry anywhere in the world.

Slim, tall, pretty..........and STUPID............you forgot that.

They use these young kpop idols as profit nothing else.

interesting who these parents are that sign this

and blockberry creative are even hurting the members who were able to leave by trying to get them banned from the industry it is horrible what they are doing to the loona/ex loona members

its horrible because the only foreign member vivi wasnt able to visit home for years

When I visited Seoul a few years ago, I stayed in my country's Embassy. The talk amongst the Embassy people that day was, parents of a 18/19 year old girl asked the Embassy for help, because their daughter ran away from her home, flew to Korea to join one of these K-Pop groups. The Embassy located the girl, but unfortunately for her parents, she's of legal age, so the Embassy couldn't just send the girl home. I feel for the parents.

the audacity 😤

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yes they don't care their trianees mental health. everything push & quick pali pali system 😢

I said the same thing but my fiancé believes it’s because they know that this doc won’t change anything. And it hasn’t sadly. There are still so many fanboys and girls horny for kpop. They still keep pouring in tons of money on merch, tickets, meet and greets. The money is all that matters to these awful companies so until tons of kpop fans boycott the industry, NOTHING will change.

The managers are happy to play the villains because this movie is a form of promotion for their girl band. It's meant to humanize the members, making them sympathetic & heroic figures who are overcoming strife in pursuit of a higher purpose (to succeed in their art/ music). The company behind the band releases this video allowing you to see the girls at their lowest moments, so that you will develop empathy & bond with them. That will (hopefully) make you a loyal fan. 😄

@@BleachBlue04 Yes it will, its changing now.

@@BleachBlue04 youre bias. Its the idol themselves that aim to be a star and its not easy to break the highly competitive kpop market. There are tons of potential idols fighting to be on top. If you cant meet the standard you wont make it

Thats so truth!

Thats what I think so.

@@bezymjannaja I really hope you're joking because otherwise you deserve jail time

@@percy_coro_cos Nah, death penalty at his case.

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oh do you know why she was kicked out?

@@hemdem1074 she demanded more creative freedom for the members, then later she found out that she's no longer part of the group through a news. Basically the company didn't told her

@@ffa28882 thats horrible!! thankyou for sharing

I think I read that, she was kicked out cuz she wanted the company to make their concept less proactive!!

@@ffa28882thats so sad,….

Looks like horror movie.

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Totally agree

Don't forget being creeped on by obsessive fans and lack of privacy online

Why are these KPop music industries male dominated and controlled? What is wrong with this picture?

more raw and brutal

I think all documentaries should be that way. Putting a specific emotion into it to tell you how to think isn't real journalism. If someone watches this and thinks these actions are okay, then they are a person I wouldn't want to associate to and if I was friends with, would question what kind of person they actually are. Thinking that hitting people is okay is a red red RED flag.

I've personally always thought that type of background music is a cheap tactic when it's a documentary so I am happy about this

Having to choose different music every 5 minutes sucks so i am glad for this trend

but at least we are a bit more aware.. it still sucks for the trainees and idols i hope they go to therapy if needed.

Whats even worse is that the company didnt see anything wrong with what they were doing

It's probably even worse in big labels knowing that even if the idol complain for abuse, their name is so huge that they're untouchable

9muse is also one of the most mistreated kpop groups in history.

I think this is still nothing. They must've treated them much worse off-camera to have them quit for real after few months.

@invisible diamond no, ex-9 muses member sera ryu herself said that the treatment of idols has gotten much better. not only that, but even for this time period, 9 muses were treated especially horribly. i don’t know of any group that has lost as many members as them.

i thought this was the ONLY honest and raw documentary about a kpop group.

@invisible diamond yes, this is how the kpop industry works, it's always shady and manufactured to some extent no matter how cute your groups look on the outside.

They think we manage pple like we sell a product in a company ...they forgot that aside their career and role play ...those girls are human , women , wifes to be ....have emotions , values , limits and being 100% working in a circus without a break ....a space isn't being hardworker but mis placed and litt breaking ...like animals within a circus Litterally they dt regard them as talented or good they are just over trained and forced to be perfect and good at everything like doll machines ...i dt think i will be able to reach such resistance strenght and be good at dance , have wonderful vocals but those lazy guys ....they dk wht it is they wrote the songs ? No ...they're just giving orders and make sure their autority allow them to sleep and drink coffee while those singers killin it

You're right, except if any of these girls had self-respect then they would have had nothing to do with these thugs and perverts the moment they found out that they were thugs and perverts. Instead they accepted the abuse.

@@brianlittrell797 they sign binding contracts you knob

@@brianlittrell797 accepted??? Just say you don't know what contracts mean and how it works and go.

am i only one who think hyemi look like taeyeon?

everything's fine now..

I think I remember her in historical kdrama 'Sunkyukwan Scandal', she's a good actress too. I subscribed to her youtube channel now. Gosh she has so much potential and have everything to be success. Sadly she was in shitty company.

Hyemi lasted until 2019 when they disbanded Hyemin and Minha lasted until Sleepless night in 2016 It's crazy and I have so much respect for them to stick it out for so long

It's so tough watching this. The girls got all my respect to get through this..

It's sad to watch. I really like some kpop groups and I like discovering new ones because I like the music but this is just sad. Wish I knew a way to still listen to kpop but not make it possible for these heartless people to take advantage of these girls, but to treat them right instead

Our western pop music stars and hollywood is just as bad, if not worse.

@@VodkaSelekta We don’t really do the boy band thing anymore. That’s very 90’s

@@LouiseHultcrantz You think male K pop stars are treated better? Men are abused worse. Men are the ones who have to die in wars, like in Ukraine. Women are allowed to leave but anyone with a pen is has to fight. Its unfair.

Yea those were the extremely oppressive days of the Kpop industry. Recently its improved for the better but people should learn about these kinds of horror stories so history doesn’t repeat itself

Even though industry has improved no fundamental thing ever changed at all. It's show business and they are more pruduct than human in managers eyes. This approves every other group. I don't wanna be harsh or something but this is what you do when you choose show your body, voice, face and talents to people. This hardship is essential unfortunately. They aren't making art, they are just like factory which is trying to exploit public attraction. This isn't my thoughts, or I don't support this. This is harsh reality. The more modern we become more inhuman our art forms reach. I'm sorry. But even now (by watching this documentary (you know they always knew that there was a camera that follows them. And managers give them more hard times so we watch this documentary until the end. By emphasizing with they and feel sad about them, and suddenly hoped to entangle with them...) ) we are still support their doings. This is absurd isn't it. AND EVENTUALLY THIS IS US WHO MAKES THEM SAD. Ironically

Its been improving slightly and nowadays a lot of companies are actually giving much more freedom to the artists (although it depends on the company). Though, fundamentally.. a harsh training is still necessity as they need to be extremely good at their own abilities.

@Werewolf they weren't a bad group

It has improved a lot

Perfect wording 💖

Yep, that is the arc of this doc, so sad. Sera just conforming.

Sera worked hard and is now the Boss of her own successful company. I hope it has a different culture. GO SERA

@@squirtleyujeong Which boy group was it lol?

@@squirtleyujeong which group

@@nevi676 i mentioned what exactly to google but I guess they deleted my reply ?? Weird ....?? If u can't find it just type her name w these words: netizens , reaction , back lash ...

Honestly I watched her on miss back and saw his her company literally broke her spirit. Because of them she developed panic attacks at being in big public spaces

She and the girls did NOTHING to deserve this. It makes me angry and disgusted beyond measure. She deserves to be happy now and not live in fear. She is a beautiful soul and I can't imagine how broken she was after all of that.

Star Empire: Treat the girls like garbage and regularly pit them against each other 9Muses: Have no confidence and struggle with teamwork Star Empire: *surprised Pikachu face*

There's no "breaking people down", it's not the girls fault, they couldn't sing. Some ppl. can sing, some not. I'm in the "not" category. I'd love to sing, but I can't. Either could those girls, except one. It's not their fault,

She is not a leader. The position would have made her really sick.

Do you know which song it is? I’ve been trying to figure it out for a while

I wish I did!

@@springss1861 jewelry any longer

all of them are gorgeous and very hardworking ❤️❤️

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IKR I noticed that. All of the managers too. Idk if they were trying to put up a face but throughout the entire documentary the things they said seemed so useless that it was like they were coming right out of a Kdrama. They have no useful tips to give. All they say is "you need passion blah blah blah". Okay...so what? Can you define passion? Or what one does when they have passion? I agree that the idols were pretty irresponsible. When the girl at the beginning described all the members it did seem like many of them did not really want to become idols. They have the same attitude I had towards school, but the difference is that I HAD to go to school and they CHOSE to become idols. On that front I can empathize with the managers but the managers were just terrible at communication. They talked to the girls like circus animals.

Honestly he acted like most therapists I've had - absolutely incapable and would rather rugsweep.

Zero training apart from handing out pills, or forced to behave with emotional cruelty because they think this is the only way that works.

Probably none. A fake psychologist or a really incompetent one.

Yes, Whenever someone tells me to be more confident I literally lose of my confidence.

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No, it’s not about them gaining confidence, it’s about power. A girl that gets beat down and belittled at every corner, won’t be able to stand up for herself. They’re supposed to do what they’re told and earn money, they’re not supposed to think for themselves or, god forbid, have an opinion. These girls are little more than glorified slaves.

YEAAH! Men who run this industry are the very worst!

They treat women like dogs since the day they're born and dictate and critisize their every breath and then want them to be confident... lmao. And on top of sexism, ageism is also very strong in Asian cultures... You're lucky if you have personality left by the age of 18 tbh...

So true!

because Black Pink and Twice are from big companies , they didn't want to show their dark sides

I actually enjoyed TWICE’s one, you saw a very vulnerable side of the girls during their interviews and their point of view of their iconic world tour. And how they dealt with Mina’s absence.

Hey hey I agree that these documents are very important and good to watch but don't go dissing on Twice and Blackpink because of how theirs were directed

agree

The voice is an incredibly delicate instrument and no doubt the intense stress and lack of true vocal training took a toll on those girls’s opportunities to become better singers. I believe all of them have voices with the opportunity to be at least decent singers with enough training and nurturing, very few people cannot be trained to sing at least decently.

The troops were actually perfect. They didn't try to jump on the stage, they sang along, and they smiled and cheered loudly for them while and after they performed. They were just like regular fangirls, only with deeper voices. I found them to be quite adorable, you could see they loved the performance.

@@Anna-dh1iy I agree- I didn't really see a problem with them, but maybe I'm just a pollyanna

@@andynonymous6769 what's a pollyanna?

@@Anna-dh1iy someone who's excessively optimistic to the point of naivete

@@andynonymous6769 ohhh I see! Thank you for explaining

it s all they got: pretty girls, otherwise no one will care about bad music

Sex sells. Money is what's being lusted after here

"These old men" don't care what they wear, lol. Maybe you missed the part where clearly 99% of the audience is young females. Women wants to be attractive, this is just basic biology of female brain. No one forced these fake singers to be a K-pop idols. The whole industry is driven by the demand, basic business 101. "These old men" are doing their jobs for which they are hired. FYI there are old women too, lol.

@Yoongles Lajibolala you can cry all you want but the fact is that they are not forced to join a band. It's their decision, if uncomfortable then leave, who's stopping them? Your feelings are irrelevant.

@Yoongles Lajibolala lol, why don't you learn the meaning of "contradicting" first? Blaming women? Lol. These women choose to work in K-pop bands, they wanna be famous and make money. I know it's difficult for women to take accountability of their own actions. It's easy to blame everybody else and your replies show your IQ, lol. Keep crying, no one cares.

Sounds like they met my mom

So sad😔

that was the one i was looking for and a whole lot more but they deleted my comment immidiatly LOL

LOl....ain't that the truth

Right on

@Ash Wolf is it? I think it's very easy to motivate people to work hard and do well without treating them badly - strictness=/bad treatment, etc. Also, I wasn't commenting on the characters 9Muses as people, just on the actions and attitudes of the executives, producers, and managers towards them. It's also worth noting that all of those people have considerable power over the 9Muses members, and just because the girls are willing to put up with that treatment for the sake of stardom doesn't mean that they should, or that it's appropriate for the people who are in charge of taking care of them to treat them that way. Ultimately, it's clear from what Sera said that the way 9Muses was treated was not something that they were expecting or wanted, and although this harsh, I would also say that 9Muses were never popular on the level of superstars, so it's not like this treatment got them there anyways.

Why??? They were hard working. They were so driven to be successful. It was the girls who could not. They succeeded coming from no where and without resource.

Agreed

I think the manager has a good heart though. He just had bosses with bad judgement. Even agreeing to the documentary was a poor sight by the boss i would say.

@@KenziePerth Definitely. Workplace studies have proven that. It seems pretty basic but some still believe they’re making things work by being abusive.

Yess

Actually, based on how contracts work, They wouldn't have been able to be sued successfully.

i doubt other trainees get treated much better. i think it's more about how much money they make the company

Dont forget TS too😡😡😡

star empire and ts bottom 2 kpop companies i think... ts win tho because they couldn't even give their idols a decent place to live and didn't pay for the bills either 😣

@@lvnsuji5672 yeah ts is TSHIT😏

It's sad the doctor violated their privacy by saying what specific girls problems were ....on camera. If this was the USA he'd be sued.

@@Beldan4 isn’t that only an issue if it’s done without the patient’s consent

@@cneer17 without their consent.. you're telling me all of those girls not only consented to have their mental health issues discussed with everyone else in the group but for it to be recorded and broadcast to everyone else. I would love to see (translated in English of course) that contract they signed.

Work so hard? This is at the end modelling and entertainment

@@naomijanelle7146did you watch the video

@@trollrat2828 Look into a company that smiles to your face & sells you the lie that they're not as bad... why don't you blame the local cashier for harassment from the manager, too?

But was severely overworked at some point in time that they attended 3 events in one day.

Look at Psy, dude doesn't fit the "beauty standards" of an Idol at all and he's smashing records... BTS came from a small company too, I don't think these idiots understand that the audience is tired of girl bands sounding the same, looking the same ... Their best female artists are nothing like the bands they're trying to produce. Out of all female K-pop bands, I think 2Ne1 was the best, T they're just wasting talent recruiting good singers/dancers to "look good" -_-.

Also Solar talked openly about the difficulties of being a leader and this is something I truly admire on them. This document makes me think of them and it makes me sick that a bunch of men are holding the power like they know better from how the girls must dress to their dieting plans.

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I agree😢

seriously, this is making me rethink all the times i supported this industry

I've only seen them from this documentary. Sera seemed the most respectable and likeable. Classic video, i return here every one in a while

@@StreetDrilla Sera is now a KZfaqr, her channel name is SERA RYU and she mostly does Kpop reaction videos now.

@@princessmarshellaaur Good to see her but i am not interested in those videos or k-pop in general except for this documentary. This really is a good watch.

@@StreetDrilla same, i used to be a kpop stan and now a lot of former idols also make KZfaq channels to tell all about their experience!

@@StreetDrilla im also not a fan of kpop anymore. These days I mostly listen to music in German, Russian, French, Italian, Indonesian and Spanish when it comes to foreign music. German pop has the catchy hooks and the addictiveness that K-pop has, but in comparison, German pop relies more into the music, songwriting and catchiness of the song without making it sound very forgettable while K-pop's more forgettable and relies more into the visuals, choreography and the aesthetic instead.

It is all necessary to become a real artist. Baptism by fire - the only true way.

Let's be real, if the girls can't handle the harsh criticisms from their managers and coaches, who's job is to train them, then they definitely cannot handle any public criticisms who simply want to tear them down.

@@Justyn_Lim_ well, because of all of that public criticism they should have someone to rely on them and give them support. A good teacher isn't a harsh and rude teacher. It is a strict teacher who knows what is too much.

@@Justyn_Lim_ no. Its true, constructive criticism is necessary and needed, but all of my favorite teachers make it a point to compliment what i did well and what i could improve on and HOW i can improve. This builds confidence along with teaching me exactly what i need to do. Long term it makes me not feel shitty about my abilities, and helps me improve immensely. I believe this is how everyone should learn. These poor women are given cold criticism and no compliments-ever. The ones who do well are barely praised and the ones who do less well are ruthlessly torn down. You can see it in all their faces, they all believe they’re terrible, all their hard work is for naught, when most of them have done well despite the awful environment they’re in.

the lack of accountability, particularly when they started saying they hated the choreography and the song. I'm sorry , sir, but you were there every day for months overseeing both the choreography and the song. all of you made those choices. the girls just executed what you told them to. and now somehow they're at fault that the choreography and song were bad?

Thats what I was thinking they dont even seem to want to be singers. The female at the beginning said herself she cant sing

Not true, anybody can sing with good vocal coaching. Obviously, those naturally gifted will be able to sing while those not able to sing will need to work extra hard to sing. Example are Wheein and Solar from Mamamoo. Wheein was naturally gifted with being able to sing while Solar had to practice a ton to get to the level of where she is at.

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These products (not musicans or artist ) are mirror to current society. In my generation we took a guitar, friends and smash it. It was fun. These kids are not having fun, they are employes. As result they performance has no spirit of joy. Thats is how you kill the music, generation made of plastic.

As a Mine, I know the girls had it rough at the start, they did disband a few years ago, but on a high note. They had a farewell concert, a farewell song, some of the girls were married, members like Sungah had kids, so I feel like it’s a great thing they’re free from Star Empire.

None of them are naturally pretty all of them has at least nose done, there is many beautiful and talented people but probably studying their ass in school for years and still won’t get paid like celebs.

Then you dont understand the reason for this kind of music. They were picked for their looks, very similar to girl and boy bands of the 90s. You don't need to go around life looking making low quality sexist claims.

@@desertmoonlee6631 that is lies

And if they’re aren’t ugly, they might not fit the very narrow criteria of that is acceptable in K-Pop. They are so nit picky when it comes to people’s looks that it’s crazy. Legs are too short, not thin enough, lips too thin or thick, big forehead, too dark, flat chested, weird nose, etc. People that most of us would look at and think are gorgeous are being told those things. Then there are the people that are beautiful and talented but aren’t ridiculously thin like a kpop idol. And they wonder why they struggle to find good singers. Maybe if they loosened up their physical criterias it would be a lot easier

it's not what the industry wants. It's what the public wants. You can't blame the industry, it's only catering to the modern beauty standard.

In which video? Could you give me the link please

@@jahdeer505 you can search her name.

@@jahdeer505 ryu sera

She also talked about it in Miss Back, a show with former members of ggs, you can watch it with subs on yt

She is suffering from self esteem or probably PTSD that’s horrible it happened not just to her but for every singer that went through it. 😢😢😢

unremarkable looking lol such a polite and funny diss

Its sad how these companies especially smaller ones treat all their idols

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Same thing happens to the guys.

If you enter the workplace, most of your boss will be middle aged unremarkable men. Don't feel sorry for the girls because your future is as bleak as them.

they disbanded in 2019

she also have a youtube channel. you might want to check it out.

Deadmogui what is it?

@@Mimi-wg7hl Sera ryu

We want good singers good voice kind and btiful caracter ....not this All that mess has nothing to do with art ....but if u want to catch attention ...earn money and grow the business economy yes u need to train like a litlle factory ....i think all this has wasten wht music is for

It made me cry as well

It is very hard to get a high paying job in Korea unless you have connections and graduated from a top university. I think they stay because of it.

They can't leave when under contract as the studio can pursue them to pay back money invested in their training.

@@black101velvet wow no wonder they feel trapped! That's awful.

..... just to be stressed out about bills once you walk off. It's hard to get a high- paying job in AMERICA unless you have connections or graduated from a top university. If it's not one thing, it's another smh. Life sucks.

@@therealkoolaidandkale appalling for a country that has so much wealth.

EXACTLY. This man literally tears them to shreds every time they're practicing, now he's asking them to be more confident? Bruh. With the amount of trauma you've given them and the toxic environment that they've been surrounded in and lived in for several years, confidence will be nowhere to be found cause y'all broke them down so much they don't have any.

Nice point

I’m glad I stopped to read the comments, I really don’t wanna see anything worst of what I’ve already saw (I’m in 36:23 and I had enough already)

like my childhood lol

he literally went out to shop for a replacement member that was so gross

I think the guys are to strick they should go to jail for that they treat the girls bad

OR the girls HAD to debut then because they were going too much into debt and the only way they could make it back is by performing

Right on

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very well said

Right? I mean even the assistants and managers were talking to them like they were trash, like, tf?

The constant berating really bothered me. How hard is it to reassure them about what they are doing right and encourage them where they lack? The constant negative comments about every little thing causes so much mental damage, especially in a society where standing up for yourself is shamed and you are instead expected to always take verbal chastising from your elders/superiors with grace. There is a happy medium in respecting your superiors and feeling valued enough to speak up against bullying of yourself or other members... I can't get over how nonstop the criticisms were, they are obviously working so hard, compliment that effort. Positive reinforcement does wonders to the psyche.

me too!!

he said "why are you walking LIKE an ugly duckling" it was meant to encourage her to have more confidence i guess

@@insomnia20422 i think their CEO has no concept of positive reinforcement, seriously. constant negative reinforcement leads people to depression or even worse.

Similar happened to members of 2ne1

@@insomnia20422 how can this encourage her for more confidence? these girls, back in the days of training, were very stressed, did you not see how in the video they viewed the girls kinda in a sexually way, the managers and the other people..-

@@insomnia20422 defending that piece of crap puts you at the same level as his.

Srsly? So thwy expected the girls to do smth that is out of their expertise?? That's weird

@@strqwbxrryicecreqm.8693 Not exactly. Imagine you're a supermodel, and one day you're scouted and invited to try out for this new supermodel K-PoP group whose focus is that you're all tall and beautiful (subjective). All of them couldn't resist.

@@strqwbxrryicecreqm.8693 I really liked some of their music but I get what your saying

@silly but nice why what happened to Sara?

thing is, it worked for other groups. but not everyone can be at the top

very true omg

Yeah. This explain so much why depression is a big thing in Kpop Industry

ikr, I felt so bad for her

@@siyoiii7709 The one where she was reacting to her old 9muses music videos

Mooラーメン she has a KZfaq channel?

@@Mimi-wg7hl yesss ryu sera is the name of the channel, she posts covers, interviews and kpop music video reactions

broke my heart seeing her on miss back. if you havent seen it beware it truly is heartbreaking.

I want to be a kpop idol so bad and I’m black I think I have a chance but for so reason the harder it seems the more I want to do and I know I’m putting my self in harms way

There should be a law where minors cant be in the kpop industry...

@@GWSNtheworld yes, totally. it would prevent a lot of problems and help the mental health of so many children, but it's kind of unrealistic, considering so many people think that if someone who is over the age of 19 debuts, they are "late".

@@falsubliminals3983 please don’t… native asians are generally very racist and they WILL eat you alive in the worst possible way

true. As much as i want to experience the fame idols get, i know its only gonna stay in my fantasy world since idols go thru soo much behind the stage

But not WM entertainment (an entertainment where Oh My Girl is from)

I step in the right direction would be for the fanbase, especially in Korea, to stop calling themselves and acting like stans. Stan: "Stalker fan", those that idolize and pursue a person to the edge of criminal behavior and psychological stress for the person stalked. The entire stan mentality is directly harmful, both to singular people and their societies.

@@jarlhenrik its just a word no one actually means theyre a stalker when they say it. it just means a fan that is serious and supports the group no matter what. in korea i dont think they use stan but they do have a word for the stalkers saesangs and most people know that is not ok.

Absolutely! To bad the stans will just say that the company their favorite group is from is completely different and they do not treat their idols these way, I guess some propaganda truly is too strong

dude, it happens in every entertainment industry not just kpop!!!

Thu Nguyen if Twitter was super active like now back in 2009, the 2nd gen groups would soar so well. 9muses could be unfazed

They where popular in Japan and Korea, but not so much international

They're going to get Twitter fans but most fans remembered them as the tallest kpop girl group. In the Eastern US and Canada it might be Miss A > 9 muses. This means Fei February 1987 > Sera October 1987

@@buzzy33 absolutely correct but in 2015 you have Twice

9muses were moderately successful in SK and Japan. KPOP back then was not as global as today.

Yes I love U 🥰🥰🥰

Yeah like Chocolat, one of the members did an interview and talked about poor treatment and her basically breaking down and having big mental health issues. They debuted when two of the girls were 14 and had to do sexy dances and ‘girlfriend’ photo shoots when they were 15 and diet more because they were biracial and ‘western people get fat’. I vaguely remember them at the time but hearing all of that disgusted me

I bus out laughing after that second sentence.

12 years? Nope. That means you'd have to start at like six. You can't train at six for sixteen. Six months training maximum.

@@thegayestgoth "Six months maximum" there has been so many trainees that trained for longer LMAO, with idols like BIGBANG's G-Dragon training for 11 and TWICE's Jihyo training for 10 years. Hell, most idols train for one to two years; unless you're a special case it's rare to only be training under six months.

they meant charming it wasnt well translated

She has a youtube channel!! I believe its Ryu Sera(?) she is doing so much better now

She is ///beautiful 🥰 sera

Exactly

You mean, how not to pick snowflakes for a group.

@@mayc8674 Oh, look - the incel has chimed in.

@@mayc8674 i mean sure if that's your take on the whole thing no one can stop you, but it carries zero weight LOL you obviously lack even the most basic knowledge about the topic what did you even hope to achieve

@@man_guo One thing i know is that i don't go around crying bc someone didn't say what i thought was the right response i was looking for. I let the world be and cope well with it. You on the other hand might only relate and hang out with a very like minded ppl. who won't hurt you bc they know the "rules". I hang out with the whole world bc i can handle.

Which were also their fault, for driving so damn fast (in the video they reach 160km on the freeway = 100 mph.)

This is kpop, the major league of girl groups, where 50 top tier groups are performing at cut throat pace. If you are injured, then you are out of the industry.

Thats the reality, thats why EXO at one time said, they would rather fight with words, because its a team, if someone gets injured, they need to change choreo, or take each others parts. Also, then, each member has a role as center or main danxse etc. Now, most groups are training to be a ll rounders just in case something happens.

@@babylionssirenblack1595 thats expecting to much this company didnt give af about them at all they wouldnt have listened

It's normal to get injuries, that's part of training