The Israelite Priestess in the Nile Island’s Temple - A Groundbreaking Discovery | Dr. Gad Barnea
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Күн бұрынJoin us in this episode as we explore the groundbreaking discovery made by Dr. Barnea regarding Israelite priestesses in ancient Egypt. This video delves into the intriguing world of the Jewish temple at Elephantine, Egypt, challenging our understanding of religious and cultural practices in ancient Jewish/Yhwistic communities.
Dr. Barnea unveils the significance of a unique ostracon from Elephantine, which stands as the first direct evidence of a female priestess officiating in a Jewish temple - in fact, it is the only direct record of any cultic observance in ancient Judaism/Yahwism. He reveals the poetic nature of this artifact and its implications for our understanding of ancient Jewish/Yhwistic liturgical practices and the role of women in these ancient societies.
This episode is a captivating journey into the past, offering an in-depth look into the daily life, religious observances, and the significant role of women in ancient Jewish communities.
👤 About Dr. Barnea:
Dr. Gad Barnea is a Lecturer at the department of Jewish history and Bible at the University of Haifa, where he also completed his Ph.D. He is also a Research Felllow at the "BEST" project of the École biblique et archéologique Française de Jérusalem. Dr. Barnea is currently working on a new critical edition of a Qumran scroll (4Q550) for Brill’s DSSE collection. In addition, he is co-author of "Hosea-The Word of the Lord that Happened to Hosea," for the collection “the Bible in its traditions,” and is co-editor of the forthcoming volume "Yahwism under the Achaemenid Empire, Prof. Shaul Shaked in memoriam.”.
🔍 What You'll Learn:
The historical and cultural significance of the ostracon discovered in Egypt.
The role of women, particularly priestesses, in ancient Jewish religious practices.
Insights into the religious and daily life of ancient Jewish communities in Egypt.
The evolution and variations in ancient Jewish liturgical practices.
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@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Dr. Barnea's article: www.academia.edu/108339234/Justice_at_the_House_of_Yhw_h_an_Early_Yahwistic_Defixio_in_Furem
@rodney1818 6 ай бұрын
I guess he's not going to take into consideration the fact that the Israelites it many times turned away from God and started doing things they were not supposed to according to the Bible as well but let's not look at that keep your attention over here
@leviashanken2506 Ай бұрын
How or why did these Jews go to Elephantine? Due to the Babylonian exile? And did they stay in Egypt, end up in Alexandria?
@brianeibisch6025 6 ай бұрын
What a great presentation on a Jewish diaspora in Upper Egypt during the Saite dynasty and reign of Cambyses. With Yahweh as chief deity, it is obvious that the religion has moved on from having El as chief deity, in its pantheon. But relative to Biblical requirements for a priesthood, the very Egyptian mode of having a female high priest at the Temple is quite amazing. The seeming lack of Biblical guidance for this community is also a startling fact. Also the demographics is really interesting too, with Elephantine and Jerusalem populations being about the same size, seems to indicate a bipolar aspect to Jewish religion and community back in this time. Great discussion, creating even more questions to be answered. Cheers!!
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! 😊
@heqaib 6 ай бұрын
This was the 27th Dynasty. The Persians [ Achaemenid Empire founded by Cyrus], defeated the last Saite King (Psamtik III).
@hondacbrification 2 ай бұрын
@@KEDEMChannelJews-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople are NOT a pastoral,tribal...alliance called Israelites that where in Egypt 3500+ years ago just a later Mediterranean SeaPeople cult that originates from Northern Africa.
@barblc3202 6 ай бұрын
Alex, you really know how to pick great subjects and specialists on the cutting edge. I thoroughly enjoy each video. Thanks.
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind words, much appreciated!
@amadeus_k2466 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating interview, thank you very much!
@KEDEMChannel 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@TO-Aloha 6 ай бұрын
Please put link(s) to Dr. Barnea’s papers. Thank you. Excellent work here!
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏😊 Just pinned the main paper (academia.edu/resource/work/108339234).
@TarninTheGreat 5 ай бұрын
Well, this was fascinating and amazing. I knew about half of this, but the other half is enlightening. I'm so glad someone sent me this video!
@KEDEMChannel 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@darksaurian6410 6 ай бұрын
I want to watch all of these and read all of their books. I really need to start reading more than one book a year.
@williambranch4283 6 ай бұрын
Bless. But reading a good book is critical.
@jdlotus8253 6 ай бұрын
If you only read 1 book a year, I bet you read it carefully.
@user-uq4hh1xh3y 6 ай бұрын
Thank you I enjoyed learning about this.
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you 😊
@blankfrancine 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic presentation, so much to ponder.
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
@richardforster5394 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Really fascinating! Thank you.
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Our pleasure! Thank you 🙏
@williambranch4283 6 ай бұрын
There were Jewish temples at On and Elephantine just after the start of the Exile. And Judaism at that time had Asherah worship.
@PAN77769 6 ай бұрын
HAIL ASHERAH!!!!!!!!
@andysawyer647 2 ай бұрын
Yahwe comes from Iah aṣá Rah. This is Iah imbued with Rah's power. The aṣá is the headdress holding the sun headdress.
@veridianacarvalho9209 6 ай бұрын
Thank You!
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@PrometheanRising 6 ай бұрын
The Egyptian flood origin story shares an interesting, perhaps suspicious, parallel with the myth of Noah's Flood. Specifically, the idea that underground water reservoirs were a source of (some of) the flood waters.
@heqaib 6 ай бұрын
It's more than a 'story'. When you go to Elephantine you can visit the exact spot of the cult origins.
@yakovrapoport7531 6 ай бұрын
Surprised that he didn’t mentioned Passover letter. So something from the Tora they did know A number of the Aramaic papyri document the Jewish community among soldiers stationed at Elephantine under Achaemenid rule, 495-399 BCE. The so-called "Passover Letter" of 419 BCE (discovered in 1907), which appears to give instructions for the observance of the Festival of Unleavened Bread (though Passover itself is not mentioned in the extant text), is in the Egyptian Museum
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
This interpretation is highly debatable among scholars. Prof. Yonatan Adler speaks about the subject in his interview with us (“When did Judaism really begin”).
@elioxman8496 6 ай бұрын
The fact that Elephantine community asked Jerusalem religious authority (i.e. Persian rulers supported community) about the holiday of Passover does not tell they knew something about it. On the contrary, one may interpret it as showing interest in adopting Jerusalem-based Second Temple customs to hopefully strengthen relations with Jerusalem (read Persian rulers) in order to get protected by Persian/Jerusalem authorities in the hostile environment of Persia subdued but rebellious Egyptians. It did not work out well as we know and their temple and community were destroyed as a part of Egyptian independence movement against Persian rule.@@KEDEMChannel
@contemposuits1983 6 ай бұрын
I find it fascinating that things like Passover were not even mentioned in the Elephantine texts. I am also curious as to how and why Jews ended up on that particular island to begin with.
@bill9989 6 ай бұрын
Doesn't he say that they were actually proto-jews and it's technically incorrect to call them Jews?
@gabitamiravideos 6 ай бұрын
I seem to remember they hebrews (or proto-Jews, since they spoke Aramaic) arrived to Elephantine with the Persians, as part of their army. The community was centered in a garrison. OTOH, even though early researchers spoke about asking instructions about Pesach, that word was not present in their letters . Rather, it was a retrojection, a reading made by modern scholars based on the fact that one of the letters had questions concerning “the feast of unleavened bread”, which was the very first bread made in spring (as no leavening agents were left over from before winter). Scholars agree that what we now know as Pesach was combination of two different festivals.
@cuebj 6 ай бұрын
Depends what you mean by 'Jews'. The Pharisee rooted Judaism that won out over other varieties after destruction of Jerusalem as the synagogue model developed in the Babylonian exile proved durable in the AD70 and following diaspora. In the Christian New Testament, 'Jews' tends to mean Jerusalem-centred elites such as the Sadducee dominated priesthood and the more mixed Sanhedrin, as distinct from other followers of Mosaic traditions, eg Nazareth and Galilee who are called Galilaeans. The inter-testamental period included extremely violent wars between different groups of Hebrews based in what we now call Israel.
@contemposuits1983 6 ай бұрын
I know all of this. You are not addressing anything I posted. @@cuebj
@maryjones5710 Ай бұрын
Persians took over all the lands, these people went to Elephantine to get away from the Persians.
@elioxman8496 6 ай бұрын
Gad is obsessed with emancipation...The rest is interesting for lovers of ancient history. Notably, he admits absence of any dating of this ostracon only in the very end of the interview, which makes the whole relation to any particular historical period into more of a phantasy (elephantasy). Also he does not care to relate to the well-known Pesach letter and connect it to the mixed cult on the island of Elephantine he was trying to present, which is in my view can support his thesis of Jerusalem-related cult to a great extent. Thanks Alex.
@Tamar-sz8ox 6 ай бұрын
Just subscribed . This channel is pure quality ! ❤
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thank you 🙏
@alexkalish8288 6 ай бұрын
It's been known since 1900 that there was a Jewish colony on the island of elephantine in Egypt. A Jewish priestess is certainly something strange if it's mot a scribal mistake.
@bill9989 6 ай бұрын
You make a good point. If there are no other references to any priestesses and we have only this one small shard, could it be a mistake, as you suggest, or if a larger context would clarify it otherwise. For example, if in the missing section, there was a reference to actions of a heretic "priestess" or something that would undermine his interpretation. I'm not saying it's so, just that it's a lot to make of a small shard with script.
@leviashanken2506 Ай бұрын
Very fascinating interview! The name Yahwah relates to existence and time. Zeus relates to life. Of course theyre related! Also Jove: Yod, Vav.
@pastor-tom-sims 6 ай бұрын
Fascnating.
@beautifulsoulblue 6 ай бұрын
Thank you sharing this most insightful discussion. Somehow it showed up and caught my attention. Went to read the research paper, but it’s behind a paywall, so I’d like to know more about the Priestess from you here: such as the spelling of her name and its Jewish meaning?, if you’d be so kind to share such information. Also it was mentioned regarding the contribution papyrus that Netanyahu was the leader of the community at the time. I am finding that rather interesting at the moment, because in English or Simple Gematria: Elephantine = Netanyahu = Sunshine (did not know YHWH was once depicted as a lion with a sun disc so that’s pretty significant) = Seventeen = Saturday = Witness = Octopus (Queen Elizabeth 1 has one hidden around her waistline in her Rainbow portrait. Sir Francis Bacon was a genius using Sacred Language Seals.) = RHNegative = GodsChosen = BookOfEnoch = SonOfDavid = KingdomCome = Purity = Wormhole = GodWithin = Worthy ect If you have proof of a Priestess in a YHWH Temple then it supports Miriam and Deborah were Priestesses? Never heard of Elephantine until this interview: now I get the narrative being pushed about Oak Island relating to Temple artifacts. The LORD does work in mysterious ways. It’s surreal at times how Divine Providence unfolds as it does: one thing leads to the next, on God’s timetable. Was there anything significant on Elephantine Island relating to a gateway looking structure, such as a lentil with two side supports? Anything relating to the actual word Sunshine? Where the Knights Templar connected to the Island and or maybe the Templar cross? I know the later exists in ancient Ethiopia so thought I’d ask. I am kinda speechless right now. God’s Blessings 🙏🏼🕊️
@heqaib 6 ай бұрын
I downloaded it. It was not behind a paywall. Try another browser?
@beautifulsoulblue 6 ай бұрын
Thank you I will try again today very intrigued to read it for research I am doing that seems to relate. Did a blog page with several pictures of the location and there was a stone column from a previous building, thought to be carved with a Coptic Cross, but it is clearly a Knights Templar one, unless at one time previously the Coptics were using an exact same version.
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏 Please write me an email if you still can’t download the paper, I will send it to you: baimelhaprof@gmail.com
@beautifulsoulblue 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for offering to email it, that is kind of you. The blog page someone did with the pictures previously mentioned is: Elephantine Island The Abode Of Khnum by Sailingstone. The picture of the Templar cross pillar is towards the end of the read. I briefly researched to see if the Coptic church used the exact same style as the Knights Templar and it doesn’t appear that they have, so not sure why it’s associated with them instead within the read. It’s pretty interesting the island was considered a military base and Jews lived there. Were certain ones being protected during that time?, by others who were mercenaries?, or were all the Jews the later? I haven’t gotten much researching done as of yet, but it’s on my radar to do so now, because that list shared of the Gematria equals is one I’m very familiar with based on a personal experience. At the moment it’s feeling like this island definitely connects. Wondering if Queen Esther / Ester and or Mordecai has connections to the island as well? Did Jesus Christ and or those in his life have connections to it? Where did Mary and Joseph go when they travelled to Egypt in hiding? Not necessarily asking if you know, but if you do that would be cool to be aware of. Sometimes when I ask questions the answers simply come forth, as the truth manifests at God’s will, and I try to document things as they unfold best I can; thus explanation the questions are more of a rhetorical type. I’m not asking you expecting answers is what I’m trying to express, nor do I expect God to reveal the answers, but sometimes from my perspective that occurs: it was simply what I naturally was thinking as I was writing. Proverbs 25:2 “It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out matter.”
@heqaib 6 ай бұрын
@@beautifulsoulblue Yikes, Please stick to the period under discussion. Some ca. 800+ years later, you will find Coptic and other Christian symbols all over Egypt. Many Christians inhabited tombs and temples after the Christians ended the ancient Egyptian religion. If somebody wants to learn more, you can download "The Elephantine Papyri in English." It's available on the Internet Archive. Also, search: "New Aramaic Papyri from Elephantine in Berlin." This book's introduction gives many recent updates to the work on the amazing trove of Aramic documents.
@dessiewatkins1006 6 ай бұрын
I was aquainted with an elderly lady who shared so much anecdotally about her Christian denomination's preservation of knowledge of the Scriptures. So much of this had somehow not been preserved in mainstream beliefs and I was uncertain as to whether this even mattered. I discovered that wherever this knowledge disappeared or faded from living memory it seemed to be replaced with more localized cult like non biblical interpretation of biblical history. I think 20/20 vision is hindsight- it is totally replaced with localized superstition based religious practices. The surviving descendants have to sift through their belief systems and reinvent them to revive viable methods of preserving their interpretation of their inherited beliefs about higher more enduring truth about God. And this seems to be occurring concurrent with oral history vanishing like footprints in the sand. I decided that higher truths are the only thing that does endure the test of time
@cuebj 6 ай бұрын
Like Islam. Most Muslims have little to now idea what Koran says as they can't understand old Arabic. They get their understandings from Hadith and other traditions that have grown up in their area or sub-tradition. Friends of mine who are Muslim and do know old Arabic and do know Koran in original have given up correcting the wildly varying traditions and attitudes derived from those traditions and even stopped going to mosque because it's not safe for them or their families
@Demandroid 6 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what language the Elephantine Papyri were written? Aramaic?
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Yes.
@Demandroid 6 ай бұрын
Ah the answer at 36:17 appears to be yes.
@cookim3899 6 ай бұрын
This is a first class interview never heard about it before non of the historians you interviewed never said anything and I listened to all of them Keep up the good work
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind words!
@cuebj 6 ай бұрын
Temple long known. This piece of text has not been widely known
@KonjanCham 6 ай бұрын
According to Prof Israel Finkelstein Jurasalem was sparsely populated during Persian period until 2 century BC. Whom were these folks writing to in Juresalem? How do we know they were writting to Juresalem or another main temple elsewhere?
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
I don’t think that there is a debate about the location of the “main” temple at the time, but we don’t know all the details about those correspondentes.
@KonjanCham 6 ай бұрын
@@KEDEMChannel Maybe I rephrase my question a bit. Is it possible that the temple of Juresalm was still active and revered by those in Egypt despite the fact that area surrounding Juresalm was populated very sparsely during the early Persian period? Unless we are willing to question the location of the temple the Egyptian Judeans were writing to, or accept that Juresalm area had some sizable population contrary to what Prof Finkelstein says about how sparse the population was in the early Persian period, and up until 150 BC!
@KonjanCham 6 ай бұрын
This is a clip where Prof Finkelstein says that Judea and Jerusalem was sparsely populated during the Persian period and that we do not see Jerusalem back to life until mid 2nd century BCE! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f56ZdLJ-ptbIgJc.htmlsi=Nov2waryw4EOBBfv
@andrewsuryali8540 Ай бұрын
@@KonjanCham Jerusalem (and Yehud itself) was sparsely populated in the Persian period in comparison to what it was in the time of the kingdom of Judah and later in the Hellenistic era. As mentioned here in the video itself, the population of Jews in Aswan-Elephantine was about as large as that of Jerusalem at the time. There is no indication that the Jews of Elephantine understood the Jerusalem Temple to have been any kind of "main" temple. They only came to that way of thinking after the Egyptians destroyed their temple. Also, there is no relationship between the centrality of a cultic center and its population. Islamabad is a far larger and many times more heavily populated city than Mecca ever has been. The Muslims there still pray towards Mecca. Even in the ancient world this was true. The Assyrian Empire capital at Niniveh was larger and grander than their old capital of Asshur, but the god Asshur was the mountain the old city was built around, so the kings still had to defer to Asshur for religious matters.
@elizabethorr4814 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. Some fundamental implications here for the hist, of religions
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@davidsavage6324 6 ай бұрын
Trading doesn't necessarily mean no day of rest- it's a non-d'oraita biblical Yerushalayim custom from Yeshayahu that is a universal Rabbinite custom (often assume to be d'oraita). You said one god named Aish-B'Tel is what I heard- that sounds like an Israelite equivalent of pyramid- pyre- amid-- i.e., fire within (fire being ein sof/intelligent infinity and intelligent energy/sefirot- Law of One describes how the intrinsic shape of the pyramid channels energy)-- because aish is flame; bay is in; tell is mound- fire in mound.
@realrasta7178 6 ай бұрын
Graham Hancock,in his book the Sign and the Seal, claims that the Jews of Elephantine flee to Ethiopia after the destruction of their temple.
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Respectfully, but as always with Hancock, this is a claim without any single piece of evidence.
@realrasta7178 6 ай бұрын
@@KEDEMChannel thank you, what is your theory of how judaism came to Ethiopia?
@StephanieSoressi 6 ай бұрын
Respectfully, you are wrong about that. Hancock is not a scientist but a journalist, and does not claim anything. He reports what field experts tell him -- in this case he reports what the Rabbi, Raphael Hadane and told him, which is their traditional origin story. Also, I have seen plenty of evidence of what Hancock has written about -- you are being quite unfair to someone who has brought a much larger audience to archaeology than any scientist I know. Some of his ideas strike one as a bit fantastic, but he has been vindicated on several counts as of late, not the least of which is that the Clovis culture was NOT the first in North America. It would suffice to say that Hancock is a journalist, not a scientist. You do not have to cast aspersions on him as well; it makes you look jealous of him. @@KEDEMChannel
@pasquino0733 6 ай бұрын
At the beginning the scholar noted it was an anachronism to refer to these Persian Yahwistic communities as Jewish. So why then speak in an ahistorical anachronism? It only encourages one’s audience to project onto the past and likely other scholars too. Otherwise, fascinating insights.
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊 Dr. Barnea used the term for convenience (of the audience), he explained that this is not a scientifically accurate term.
@RealUvane 6 ай бұрын
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@user-mc9ds8kn6s 6 ай бұрын
One point that I seldom hear mentioned is the oral Torah and traditions. I am not talking about the extra writing. I am not talking about the Mishnah the Gemerrah or the Talmud. As far as the Northern Kingdom goes, not unlike the Southern Kingdom, there is more than one answer as to where and how they went after the Assyrian conquest around 721 BCE. Simcha Yacobitvchi, "the Naked Archeologist," found parts of the "12 tribes of Israel" east of the Euphrates River. He found them in India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and another Eastern country (not China anymore) were the countries. They were re-engaging or continuing in their ancient worship of their deity as they went along daily life. They definitely had Israelite ethnic features. The group in Afghanistan still wrote in Hebrew (which Simcha read and the tribal people were amazed)!
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
This work must be taken with many grains of salt, a vast majority of the scholars do not agree with Simcha’s thesis, it is actually considered as pseudoscience.
@user-mc9ds8kn6s 6 ай бұрын
@@KEDEMChannel * OK, that seems reasonable. My only hesitation with agreeing with you completely is that he filmed his journey into those eastern lands and his interactions with the tribal people.
@project.anubis 2 ай бұрын
I don't know about Simcha but most of the Pashtuns agreed on the fact they came from ancient Israel.
@Yosaif-israel 6 ай бұрын
The correspondence between Jerusalem and yeb proves Jewish ritual debate and instruction of how to act in exile, therefore eliminating the animal sacrifice on the Passover so won’t be friction with the other cultures and temples around, which is the Jewish law
@educatingwithwisdom7770 6 ай бұрын
Yah and sometimes lah is Egyptian for moon...In ancient Egyptian, a W or U added at the end of nouns meant plural or people, ie moons or people of the moon. Apiru/Epiru/Abiru were people, part of the Sea People evasions, hr.u or hr.w meant Hurrians...The Jews, Greeks, Arabs and others have always taken on other people's identities and written off a more noble people.
@rogerscottcathey Ай бұрын
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@WagesOfDestruction 6 ай бұрын
I find the comment about a jew selling a slave to another jew fascinating.
@StephanieSoressi 6 ай бұрын
Why? Because you think of Jews as slaves in Egypt? There is no evidence of that. To the contrary!
@marna7325 6 ай бұрын
Jeremiah?
@Jeannie.C.Riley-oz5nm3jg6e 2 ай бұрын
23:30 Father, Mother, daughter type of triad at the Island of Elephantine thousands of years before the bible.
@jenathent4840 2 ай бұрын
The only true deities. There must be a mother and daughter to complete the trinity of creation
@markhughes7927 6 ай бұрын
Weren’t they fugitives from the terrible reign of King Manasseh?
@GuyWillson-bu6nz 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if these people came from those who carried Jeremiah away to Egypt.
@andrewphoenix3609 6 ай бұрын
Were these ancient biblical texts found in Alexandria and used in the creation of the cannonised hebrew bible in the 2nd century bce? Incorporating helenistic laws and deities into the telling of their history.
@KEDEMChannel 6 ай бұрын
As far as we can tell, the canonization was a separate process than the Greek translation in Alexandria.
@andrewphoenix3609 6 ай бұрын
@@KEDEMChannel What came first?
@leslieperkel5594 Ай бұрын
The Israelites in Elephantine did not know about the Torah because it didn’t exist yet. Certainly not in the form we have it now just like the Christian Bible was written long after the event so was the Torah the stories in the tour go back far before the Jews and the Israelites they are compilations of many stories from different cultures.
@dadsonworldwide3238 6 ай бұрын
Bro this is way late after known monotheism all around the region. But paganism never goes away its still present just not as noticeable in such ways. But as a ruler and respect for other nations its customery to acknowledge their city gods. Even today this is common practice. So its still after synacrab and Assyrian influences. They also rule north Egypt march as far thebes. 750bc Monotheism has already happened both in summarian and in Assyria marduk.. Long after mosaic Monotheism. Long time after the Egyptian Pharoah famous montheism period..
@project.anubis 2 ай бұрын
You don't speak about monotheism but of monolatry !
@dadsonworldwide3238 2 ай бұрын
@@project.anubis Taking monastic vows to a single God doesn't exclude many from superstition or views or that definable matter is somehow endowed with magical properties once the dots are aligned as opposed to a universal nature building life giving force that is endowed by one unique creater.
@dadsonworldwide3238 2 ай бұрын
Idolatry as if endowed by anything walks on a fine line of soft paganism
@dadsonworldwide3238 2 ай бұрын
@project.anubis God acting upon and moving through at his own discretion is very different than ( god ) is in a rock or under one. And really we only know paganism or monotheism when you get down to the nitty gritty.
@dadsonworldwide3238 2 ай бұрын
@project.anubis monaltry is hard to get into because it's several traditions who are lost in translation or taken out of context who inheret bal ,marduk etc etc but they do seek with pure intent one trie God and to know all they can about a universal power greater than. It's not worth starting wars over to deny or mention outside of your own historic textual critiques .
@MuktiArno 2 ай бұрын
It's interesting how it was written in greek. And no mention of an exodus on elephantine. No mention of any tribes. Seems like someone's been lying for few thousand years.
@yehoshuadalven 5 ай бұрын
Can they be the origin of the Ethiopian Jews?
@theomnisthour6400 6 ай бұрын
IS ra El? Only Ma'at knows, @nd is still tasting candidates
@klasnm_5364 6 ай бұрын
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@bill9989 6 ай бұрын
So, it sounds like the bible was written in Babylon by the hebrew captives. When they were allowed to return, they returned to Judea/Jerusalem and fashioned the bible to give primacy to Jerusalem and Judean Jews. They wrote off the Samaritans (who were not taken to Babylon) and that abandonment exists to this day.
@abrahamcollier 6 ай бұрын
I think we’ve all been through this stage in our evolution of understanding Jewish history. While intellectually tempting, the “Out of Babylon” thesis (I believe) ignores a lot of evidence that Judaism as we know it today evolved slowly over millennia, influenced by (and influencing) most of the surrounding cultures, with surprising innovations well before (and well after) the Babylonian captivity. Evidence for this includes the “Song of Deborah” in the Torah, an apparently ancient work of lyric poetry, or the ancient Egyptian inscription referring to a “House of David.” While this complicates the historical situation somewhat, a more nuanced understanding is necessary to prevent us from falling into the relatively modern fallacy that Judaism is inherently colonialistic, imperialist, and racist. While those strains exist within the culture, as in all cultures, they are no more inherent to Judaism (in my view) than terrorism is to Islam.
@bill9989 6 ай бұрын
@abrahamcollier But was David and the "House of David" even Jewish or Hebrew? Or did he and his House exist from a Canaanite group and was appropriated by the biblical writers?
@PrometheanRising 6 ай бұрын
The Meshe stele is Moabite.
@bill9989 6 ай бұрын
@@PrometheanRising or the Tel Dan stele. The Meshe stele is interesting to me in that some interpretations suggest that the Moabites had similar beliefs to the Hebrews, i.e. that their god punishes or rewards them depending on whether that god is angry or satisfied with them. Perhaps that concept was common in the ancient Levant.
@PrometheanRising 6 ай бұрын
@@bill9989 You are correct. I tumbled those two artifacts around in my head.
@a.rhenen6242 6 ай бұрын
Have you read any of emmanuel Velikovsky's books written in the 1940's Elephantine islands mentioned as having a jewish temple and Anat Yahu (goddess.?) is mentioned
@angelasalgado5069 Ай бұрын
Ra's sister.
@metsingmolapisi2522 6 ай бұрын
Ground-breaking , people are trying very hard to squeeze this non existence history of the so called Jews in these periods. We know that between the 6 & 3rd century BC is yesterday when the Persians, Geeks & Romans invaded Kemete pushing their gods Serapis etc & wearing like black people. That was the start of Septuagint old Testament greek bible with greek mythology after stealing Black knowledge & rewriting Johny come late history.
@karenabrams8986 6 ай бұрын
Huh. Not monotheistic until when?
@project.anubis 2 ай бұрын
He said pure monotheism is an islamic invention.
@patriciawhite9502 2 ай бұрын
Infiltration
@rebeccadagostino6299 2 ай бұрын
I Think you are lying. Ahhh, uuhmm , stutter. You ARE LYING. YOU ARE COMPLETELY UNCERTAIN.
@sophiabarger22 6 ай бұрын
They Jewish at that time they were Greek greek. They were in Egypt 4 2000 years.
@YAHOODABENYISRAEL 5 ай бұрын
Not Jewish but Israelites temple
@robertcarter8868 6 ай бұрын
The bible reflects periods in which the people knew nothing and engaged in idolatry.
@acm01864 6 ай бұрын
Bless Israel 😊 The Jewish Israeli houses are older than most know! The Jewish princes were always integrated through marriage with the main Egyptian royal lines all of different races equally taking turns by agreement in the main dynastic line to rule, the Jews were out of India too. The Egyptian lines were all intermarried with the Indian and Oriental Raj and Khanate! This goes back over 8000 years! These was the main Israeli bloodline in action taking all the Thrones of the World as Prophesied! Seemingly a slow process but here we are!😊
@Shanablueray 6 ай бұрын
What's your source for this?
@vonroretz3307 6 ай бұрын
And how do the Herod’s fit in with this? And what of the Rod of Jesse ?
@acm01864 6 ай бұрын
Old histories of Egypt while thinking of archeology while yet young. Can't remember the authors but they were direct translations of papyrus from the oldest era of the post cataclysmic era of survivors emergence from some underground city in the mountains where the new dynastic rules were decided by the leaders of multiple race dynasty I will try to find the books but it was in the 1969,s before internet😊@@Shanablueray
@cuebj 6 ай бұрын
You been watching Goodness Gracious Me?
@vonroretz3307 6 ай бұрын
Davidic line went astray in the Babylonian captivity, Hasmoneans assumed power after the Maccabean revolt, Herod the Edomite legitimises himself by marrying Hasmonean Princess, and tries to exterminate Christ child ie. Davidic line. Majority of Jews at the time reject Christ with the priesthood who accept Herod. Jews today think Europeans are Edom, when its the other way around + Jesus renounced the tribal racism of being obsessed with bloodlines anyway.
@francisgruber3638 6 ай бұрын
Eco-feminist and inclusive Temple worship. Graham Hancock found the Ark of the Covenant on Elephantine. One finds what one seeks, eventually.
@GilesMcRiker 6 ай бұрын
Lol I love when scholars on obscure topics such as the discovery of a scrap of pottery in a faraway colony that Time forgot, ss ""immensely important"
@cuebj 6 ай бұрын
It is immensely important for their study grants
@project.anubis 2 ай бұрын
It's called knowledge. And f* yes, it's "immensely important"... 😏
@rebeccadagostino6299 2 ай бұрын
Why Do you Say " UHHHMM"? SO , UHHMMM MUCH!? Makes Me Feel UNEASY
@jimtripman9002 6 ай бұрын
Making up history as they go. He wants to use the word Jewish just to confuse the casual viewers. What a joke.
@Post91GenExit 6 ай бұрын
It's quite evident no one really knows anything about this egyptian/jewish community but by repeating the name yahweh like 15 times this professor can make this interview last for 40 minutes, what a waste of time.
@heqaib 6 ай бұрын
Hundreds of Ostraca (Ostracon) and Papyri documents from this period were found at Elephantine. The talk was centered on only one Ostracon, which was unusual because it demonstrated that women could also have served in a Priestly context. Sitting in the Berlin Museum today, there are, I believe, five trunks of Papyri that have not been opened yet as they are too fragile. There are hundreds more sitting in the German/Swiss warehouse on Elephantine Island today. You have not bothered to open a search engine to learn more about the subject.
@Post91GenExit 6 ай бұрын
There is no subjebt but ruins because none of their descendents exists among us today there is no living proof.What you are saying about the female priest could be concluded in less than two minutes mind you, it's all nothing but dead sources so if you want to speak about dead people be my guest but don't waste time with your nonsense @@heqaib
@a.rhenen6242 6 ай бұрын
Emmanuel Velikovsky mentioned this in his books 60years ago
@Post91GenExit 6 ай бұрын
So what? Anyone can write whatever they please about anything, his dead sources means nothing,unless he was a descendent of that elephantine community otherwise it's just a waste of time really.@@a.rhenen6242
@Post91GenExit 6 ай бұрын
I don't have to open up anything what you are talking about is nothing but conjecture and guesswork,if anyone had real proof of this extinct jewish/egyptian religion of women priests there would be real people of flesh and blood still around us today.So babble your nonesense to someone else allright. @@heqaib
@Yosaif-israel 6 ай бұрын
15 minutes in this guy statements are so outrageous. It’s funny. The thousands of archaeological sites across Israel prove biblical Jewish ritual practice, going back exactly how the Hebrew scriptures claim
@az-wr1lb 19 күн бұрын
// In 589 Nebuchadnezzar again besieged Jerusalem, and many Jews fled to Moab, Ammon, Edom and other countries to seek refuge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yehud_(Babylonian_province)// apparently including egypt. Presumably they returned post-exile
@az-wr1lb 19 күн бұрын
what's interesting is these jews were apparently polytheists. I wonder what happened in jerusalem coming into 600BCE
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