I believe that they mayd it to angel beach

Along with Fred Breezie

I believe they made it, too. Those guys were quite intelligent and weren't your average convicted dummy. If I'm not mistaken, I think I watched a documentary years ago that said the one guy (Frank, I think) had a genius level IQ. Hell, they had to have been fairly intelligent just to pull off the initial escape. I believe they made it but the authorities try to say they didn't because they wanted to save face. Don't want to admit that the "inescapable Alcatraz" was, in fact escapable.

You know it🤠

What makes you so sure??

@@basquehound1999 The FBI suppressed a report for 50 years, in which 3 sets of footprints and a stolen car was recorded on Angel Island. Plus other bits of evidence here and there. There more or less has been a conspiracy to maintain how infallible and perfect the Justice Department is in the USA even doubling down on harsh and wrong punishments meted out to unfortunate and disadvantaged people.

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​@imagination370 he said the prison, not the island. They did escape the prison. That's a fact. Now if they successfully escaped the island is another question

Me too

Of course they did, think about it the guy they had reenacting the swim only gave up cause he could because he had the option to quit so he took it but they didn’t have a safety boat to give up they had no choice but to keep going and they’re adrenaline was probably through the roof

@@floridanick8434 plus the adrenaline

Well the documentary didn't exactly do a good job at showing otherwise. Mostly it was making assumptions throughout and that's not scientific. If they want to make a case with science they need to remove the assumptions and weasel words. They made statements that are factually incorrect. Someone did make it to shore from Alcatraz alive. They said this is not possible but it is. A prisoner did. He was taken back there but he made it to shore which this documentary states otherwise. It is a lie even if unintentional.

@@xexyz0xexyl Exactly. It seems to me the powers that be don’t want to be embarrassed and want to try their hardest to put it out there that they drowned. I think it’s fairly obvious that they did make it & they beat Alcatraz.

I personally think they made it too

The amount of resources dedicated to catch them was flat-out ludicrous.

Facts

That’s what im saying!! All three life jackets found but not one body? They’re gone 😆

⁠@@jamarmiller3608there were 45 suicides off the golden gate from 1960-62. 17 of the bodies were found. So they could not find 28 of the 45 bodies EVEN when they had a much more precise search area in the bay. I want to believe they made it, but the raincoat wallet being left behind with the addresses, numbers is just tough for me to ignore. I wouldn’t necessarily call it a smoking gun that no bodies were found. I just think it’s more likely then not they made it. I’m very interested in learning about the reported boat sighting and a piece Of evidence was found near angel Island which makes you think

I think your right

Definitely possible, odd why that theory is never mentioned.

There's another documentary where they are sure coming from a different angle that they had seen a boat but I can't find that documentary anymore

@@derekfraser7397cause they most likely thought about it already

Me too

It was a missile silo in the process of being decommissioned, so very low staff at any given time, as well as boats they could have used to get to the mainland. Makes perfect sense if you spend more than 30 seconds on it.

If they did, that couldn't have been arranged from inside the prison, like I explained above.

No genius it was filmed after he passed. It’s his ghost speaking in the documentary.

congrats Sherlock.......

Outside help would have been "sheer luck". No waiting boat could have been arranged from within the prison.

Helicopter

That body was viewed over a month later and not reported until the Fall. There is speculation that it was someone who jumped off of the Golden Gate Bridge a few days earlier, so I don’t think it was Morris. It seems unlikely he’d still be floating on the surface after all that time.

Me too I think they want to the golden gate way just before it

Did you even watch any of this on how cold the water was and that it would take 2 hours to get there? Anyone who thinks they made it is an idiot

Me too. They just told other prisoners they were going to angel Island. If anyone snitched they would be on the wrong path

That mail was probably fake

@@bherber probably but it was never proven either so it's a mystery. My understanding is they did not further pursue it which of course is exactly why people believe it can be real. That's also exactly one of the reasons conspiracy theories are created: to fill that lack of information. I hope it was real but I obviously don't know.

I heard the same thing.The one that sent the letter was dying also and his brother and Morris died of old age and in the letter they made it and he's dying of cancer at the age of 81

@@michaelkawell3300 yes something along those lines. One of them made it into the 90’s (age) and send a letter. Just remember they made the place to technically feel secure but they have an iron man in those waters and nobody gets eaten by sharks and plenty make it out alive.

Me too

And then if they;d made it rob and steal again and maybe do something worse......would you still be glad they made it?

I'm sorry mate, but a raft does NOTHING in the water outside of the prison... Which was the point and problem I've reason they picked that spot on the first place.

@jibv4867 ya know I kinda thought so...at least that's what my heart wants to believe. Gotta love the human drive and persistence 😎

They didn't need a boat. Stealing a car was easier.

Into the safety nets below

@@user-yu6pw6dk9p I think they survived and I think other escapes survived as well.

@jibv4867 - A high IQ is not going to help you in that situation... The water temps were not warm either lmao

Or the raft could have been hit by an outgoing ship. Supposedly, they recovered what was left of a wooden paddle after it was damaged by something, and they recovered shreds of rubber that could have been from the raft. They also found a deflated life vest.

The Anglins did not build the raft as Morris designed it. Morris designed it to have four pontoons but the Anglins built with only three. Morris was very angry about that, claiming that the raft would be too unstable. He was probably right about that. It also would have been less buoyant.

Okay, then maybe if your bank and your money gets robbed, you'll refuse to press charges then?

@@epaddon I wouldn’t lock them up for 20+ years. Then continue to ruin their lives when they are probably out and learned their lesson.

That's exactly what happened but it wasn't a passerby it was somebody waiting. I heard that on a different video and it was from a coast guard that was out there and seen the lights of a boat idling, then the lights turned off and then they turned back on and left.... Plus there was never any bodies and the bodies would have showed up before anything from the material of the boat or anyting else. 😊

How could a coastguard have been waiting for them, either on land or in a boat? Like I said, no contact could have been made with an outsider from inside Alcatraz. If they weren't picked up by a passing boat, purely by luck, they succumbed to hyperthermia and their bodies washed out under the golden gate bridge, into the vastness of the Pacific Ocean, and that's why they were never found.

@@derekfraser7397 Are you mental?? Where do you see me saying a coastguard pick them up LOL. Come on bro make it make sense... I said that a coast guard reported that there was a boat out there. And I didn't mean to say Coast guard I meant to say a cop... It's common knowledge. San Francisco cop reported that between Angel Island and Alcatraz there was a boat on that night at that time. And it's also common knowledge that Jim Morris is cousin has admitted to paying off in Alcatraz correctional officer a bunch of money to get them what they need etc. So before you go arguing with me and getting personal with me about something that has nothing to do with me or you, Just please make sure you know what you're talkin about and make sure you can actually read. I mean why would somebody say that the Coast guard pick them up LOL?? Wtf. That makes zero sense that's not even a rational thought... Sometimes people just see what they want to see and not what's actually there....

@@derekfraser7397 I've obviously done more research on this than you.... Jim's cousin admitted to paying an Alcatraz correctional officer money in large amounts more than a few times... He said if they want to come drag an old man like him he was on his deathbed to prison that may can go ahead and do it.. Dude the picture of the brothers from Brazil, the photo that they claim is the Anglin Brothers is definitely them. One had blonde hair and one had dark hair.. The government even had several agencies that were professional at age enhancement and one of them said that there's a chance it's them but it's slim and I think more than one agency said that it's more than likely the Anglins in that picture. Now another thing.... The Anglins also had a younger brother that was beat to death in prison for not giving up dority's information about where those men from Alcatraz escaped to... They exhumed the body to get the DNA to try to match it to the letter that was written to the FBI.. Family okayed it because they wanted to have an autopsy done so they know if he was beaten or electricuted like the authorities said he was. They said he got electrocuted by trying to escape over the fence, But someone else with knowledge of the situation told the family that they beat him to death. And there's several people from the backwoods of Georgia and Florida that say these guys lived in Florida after the escape and then went to the Brazil because it got hot... You can find people on these videos in the comments who are very old people who say this. Lol. Now I know that you can't believe everything that people say but one of these people I was reading last night but they were saying and there's just no way they are lying. There's way more evidence pointing towards that making it then there is them not making it... And it's always going to be interesting too because I think if they did make it they are dead by now.... That's why you kind of got to take Jim Morris's cousin at his word when he tells you that he paid Alcatraz guards so the three men could have the information and materials they needed. Brother I don't know if you know this but all across this country of the United States there are guards that are being paid right now. That's how cell phones get into prison. Every single day a guard gets caught man, I mean it's not hard for me to believe...

Yes I've seen that picture of 2 men in Brazil, it could have been them. If so, they and Frank Morris must have gotten new identities, fake passports, and maybe plastic surgery as well. We know prison guards couldn't have smuggled cell phones into Alcatraz because they didn't exist way back then. But there could have been a corrupt guard or two who did aid their escape, it's possible. But if that was the case, very little has ever been spoken about it.

2000 as far as I know

Mythbusters have a video on it. They made a raft to see if they could escape the bay

@kaileerawson2804 yea I see that very interesting. The truth will come out one day

Not many man eating sharks there. That’s a myth

I haven’t heard this story. I heard all of them lived years after the escape.

@@shequitadawsey3707 There's one photo of the Anglin brothers in Brazil in the 70's but that's it.

It’s because presumably they lost the life jackets. Or they weren’t effective like the raft. It’s hard to say. Either way the jackets were recovered. The jackets also wouldn’t protect you from hypothermia. They also do account for the life jackets in the drifting experiments as they launch the dummy with and without it to similar results.

The whole raft intact?

@@jamesmcbeth4463 not 100% sure. They found a spare raft not used and the FBI found one washed up on angel island.

​@CanuckTony I looked into it a little further and one report stated no actual raft was found on Angel Island and that was only "FBI teletype evidence, " whatever that means (?). Scratching my head on that one.

@@jamesmcbeth4463yes but flat

@@jamesmcbeth4463I also checked and the raft was found

I’ve swam before and I’m lifeguard trained. Listen the rough water swimmer is going to remain calm cause they have every advantage of knowing they can quit and they have experience as well as it being 4 degrees warmer and during the day. The escapees aren’t experienced and they may freak out sapping their energy and maybe even dragging each other down. I had a friend nearly drown before because someone took them under in their panic of not being able to swim. Scary stuff and it makes lifeguarding hard as you can try to save someone and that person could accidentally kill you.