Spit in my boipussy, Alan

Well, That escalated quickly

=D

Yep Max and Chad are always great. They should get a better guest next time though

Congrats on hitting 2x bodyweight lifts after nearly 2 decades of lifting Alan! Congrats on hitting 1.5x BW bench too!

Me too :)

Middle bar all the way bro

Thanks man

Hahahaha

lol

Don't do what works for you, work on the stuff that doesn't work for you till it works for you if it will be useful for your training goals.

"Don't do what works for you, work on the stuff that doesn't work for you till it injures you if it will be useful for training injuries." Fix'd?

Same here

Trading knee problems for back problems.

I do low bar in oly shoes with the Low bar form Sheiko tends to encourage, not because I do his programs, it was just very middle of the road. Lead to me not having a squat morning and allowed me to avoid knee issues as I'm to prone with high bar.

I wager it was building up for a long time, and its clear Jordan was prepping for it. It is interesting to see their own beginner programming and contrast it to SS though. Extremely different. Much more volume and variety.

@@JackgarPrime And their clients get better results. Funny how that works.

JBDB35 didn't do John Lennon any harm. Until he got shot anyway.

Ramon Suarez sometimes it's funny cause him or Baraki will deviate from the dogma and Ripp will be smoldering off to the side, but especially when they start gettin academic he keeps his mouth shut

@@xinsanedefeatx You think they're why he tries to shit talk doctors more lately?

You are the guy they are talking about at 13:30

Mongoosemcqueen he looks like a peter sellers character too

andre silva amen brother. Chad and Max should refrain from talking to feigenbaum and rip until their system has produced athletes as strong as starting strength

@@jackn9951 which starting strength athletes are seriously strong?

Agree... the idea is get STRONGER and then use that strength for whatever sport of for whatever the fuck they want... it's like these two guys are INTENTIONALLY misunderstanding Rip.

@Chaitan Reddy " Rippetoe is an idiot that hasn't coached anyone that's worth talking about" Does anyone really think the world class mathematician that lectures to Phd candidates is necessarily the guy you want teaching freshman algebra? Then why would anyone think that a guy who is working with genetically gifted competitors in their prime, that have both the motivation and time to structure their entire life around training, is the same guy you want coaching middle aged soccer moms and busy professionals? If you read the book you would also know he give full props to Star. Rip is not a guy I would wanna hang out with, but Starting Strength has made thousands of people stronger, including me. That’s the only qualification he needs. What have you got to show us?

Al G Legos

Getting them strong or fat and mediocre?

Yea, people bet I wouldn't do it....but I did haha

Neil Sneddoncrest To be fair, the conversation was more or less guided in that direction by the hosts from the onset of the podcast. In this instance, Jordan was used primarily for his ties to Starting Strength rather than for his own endeavors, achievements, and specific methods.

Scott Ohlms I agree with you. I don’t blame Jordan.

omg pleeeeeaaaaazzz

"I could do a podcast, but that's gay" - Mark Rippetoe

It would feel like the Eric Andre show of fitness. They'd just troll him till he storms out of the room lol

I'd front the Van Winkle to see that. Or maybe Rip thinks it's overrated.

Zatsiorsky and Issurin

Don't forget chasing tail.

They actually have an episode of their own podcast where Jordan and Austin each talk about their time in med school.

xinsanedefeatx we have 4 mics but only brought 2 with us for that trip.

Juggernaut Training Systems I don't watch every episode, I've just never seen 2 mics at a time. Cool podcast nonetheless, loved the banter

Brandon but then all 3 would be talking at the same time, instead of just 2

jasoncrashtech Tendonitis goes away anyways. Just deload but don't stop lifting- Jordan feiganbum

Continue squatting (likely), adjust volume, intensity, ROM, tempo, and possibly technique until resolution. Also use knee sleeves

What you gonna do? Not train?

FARGIN , I have a hard time not training

I just got over SEVERE tendinitis from my patellar tendon in two weeks. For your squats you can do the same amount of volume with the same weights, just do more sets with less reps. Also if you can compress right under your knee caps during the movement it will help with the pain. Also I did high rep leg extensions with low-moderate weight for high reps(2 sets of 20 or so) only on squat days along with foam rolling only on squat days. Also during those two weeks I substituted one of my squat days a week for another deadlift day. This along with during my daily activities trying to use my quads to the point of feeling the tendinitis without it hurting made it go away very quickly

Mark Wurtz Chad Wesley Smith . Max Montana Aita

Blake BernsteinFit hey blake from insta lives to youtube!!

Murderface? (just guessing)

Pa Jenn probably

Bullwinkle

GoodtimeHolzy g haha i was scrolling the comment threads and saw this. Shit was funny when Jordan went off

GoodtimeHolzy g I dont understang. What happened, lol.

Darknight526 SS is better imo. Read the book

It's actually the same, but with different cues.

No it isn't. Look at the SS how to squat and then Max and Chad showing Megsquats how to squat.

Darknight526 I'd rather listen to the guy with medicine and anatomy degrees

Do they teach about squatting in med school? Jordan is a great guy. To compare the squatters I have coached compared to those from SS though... 1-Brandon Allen 937@SHW (Wraps) 2-Brandon Allen 870@SHW (Sleeves) 3-Andy Huang 843@275 (Sleeves) 4-Evan Mensing 840@275 (Wraps) 5-Jake Johns 821@SHW (Sleeves) 6-Jordan Wong 804@242 (Sleeves) 7-Adam Rodriguez 804@275 (Wraps) 8-Tee Popoola 793@242 (Sleeves) 9-Tee Popoola 788@275 (Sleeves) 10-Steve Gentili 771@275 (Wraps) 11-Travis Nelson 749@242 (Wraps) 12-Adam Rodriguez 727@275 (Sleeves) 13-Alex Deken 705@198 (Wraps) 14-Alex Deken 694@220 (Wraps) 15-Brogan Williams 683@SHW (Wraps) 16-Walker Bradshaw 661@105kg (Sleeves) 17-Kevin Torres 639@165 (Wraps) 18-Luigi Fagiani 600@220 (Sleeves) 19-TJ Kropp 600@242 (Sleeves) 20-Kevin Torres 584@181 (Sleeves) 21-Ronald Tarvin 562@165 (Sleeves) 1-Kristen Dunsmore 381@63kg 2-Marisa Inda 330@52kg 3-Jo Ann Aita 297@63kg 5-Sierra Angelina 292@57kg 5-Lizzy Picardi 286@57kg 6-JoAnn Aita 275@57kg Can add my own 970 in Wraps and 843 in Sleeves to that as well.

You will never get real strong if you only take his advice! That's the reason you never see him train elite and best athelets. He's full of himself and always believe he's right is absolutely childish!

@@ek7473 and yet people get rest strong on his program all the time

@Chaitan Reddy Everyone knows where it came from. Rippetoe did use Starrs program to a degree. He was a Starr disciple himself. He changed it to help beginners gain general strength. And for this. It works. The continual loading every session takes advantage of newbie gains using primarily the main lifts. I do not understand why people hate on this program. It works. You use it till you reach a point of diminishing return and you move on at which point you should have a decent strength base and understanding of the main lifts. You then switch your programming and lift selections for specific goals. It's not lifetime program.

@Chaitan Reddy I can tell you as someone who owns has read and followed the program that it does include pull ups/chin ups tho not weighted. Though I dont know any complete novices that have never lifted that would require additional weight for those particular movements. Hell many cant even lift body weight at first. Also core stability can sufficiently be achieved through proper bracing during the execution of these movements for complete NOVICES which again is who the program is geared towards. Those of us who now need additional accessory work and added weight for continued progress in what are traditionally body weight exercises are no longer novices do not need this program. So to judge the program based on that is unfair.

@Chaitan Reddy They wouldn't would they. That would be bad business for them. Also most beginner strength programs? Such as? And what studies pray tell? Let's just site studies and programs without identifying them. You know studies show that most people who reference studies and then do not site those specific studies are blowing smoke. Also there are 4 major movements in the Starting Strength method along with accompanying movements. Again as I see you have never read the actual program I'm not sure why you're so against it.

Alex Jordan is Jesus

Speaking for myself, the issue is that when Ripp talks about SS it is dogma which you may not deviate from under any circumstances. Baraki and Feigenbaum are more reasonable. And thing about Chad's way of teaching how to squat- if the lifter has long ass femurs the squat will happen to look like a "SS squat" it is just more emphasized through cueing to keep knees forward and use quads

I have awful proportions for squatting and weightlifting. I'm long limbed 6'3. I figured out how to squat high bar, and weightlifting is my favourite thing to do.

seneca savoie we tried to at Nationals just couldn’t align schedules. Soon though.

@@JuggernautTrainingSystems An entire hour about how the Texas Method sucks and rip doesn't believe in peer review

So what's the whole split thing I'm hearing?

@@JuggernautTrainingSystems 5 years later, has this happened?

TheBlooRayChannel Jordan will troll 531 for days.. he always talks shit about that program How long how you been on 531 ?

Expect for 80% of individuals who cannot make any progress with such low volume after the first 1-2 years.

You mean except?

He will? Rippetoe has hosted Jim Wendler multiple times at some of his seminars. I'm currently on my second cycle. Stalled completely on SS 6 weeks ago.

The thing is that 531 has evolved A LOT with the additon of jokers sets, first set last set etc... It became pretty high in volume.

I agree that the recovery is typically not limited by absolute strength. However, at challenging weights the mechanics of the lift will be those that produce the most force. Dolega's 202.5 (not 205) shows "hip drive" during the recovery portion, as do all of his snatches. I imagine this is magnified visually due to his anthropometry, but virtually all limit snatches show the same mechanics. He also only steps forward about ~1/2 step, so I'm not really sure what video you're speaking of or what your point is.

Dude you're talking nonsense. Why on earth would you lean over when recovering a snatch? You remove quads from the lift and overly stress the low back. The hips are involved even in the ATG olympic squat with vertical torso out of the whole. Emphasising the lean forward is weird. You're trying to turn all lifts into a dead lift.

"However, at challenging weights the mechanics of the lift will be those that produce the most force." Even with challenging weights in the snatch, there still really isn't a need for the legs or hips to produce the "most force" like in a back squat. The weights will usually only represent a relatively light percentage of the lifters back or even FRONT squat (especially at elite levels) so this claim that "the mechanics are dictated by the fact that they're limit snatches" really doesn't make any sense. Leave the weightlifting to the weightlifters and get back to selling more SS books to poor unfortunate people who don't know any better.

Darknight526 lol I dont think so, I think he's just saying it's common knowledge that for specific sports specificity is important

Well, you can't say that it doesn't work for Louie since he has a lot of records. The thing is that geared powerlifting is different, the mechanics of the movements change once you have a suit that modifies the excercise, so the trainning can't be the same as a regular squat, hence the emphasis on box squats and good mornings for example.

Nopy Nope props to Jordan, he knew what he was gettin himself into and he handled it with grace haha- I have a feeling he agrees with their core issues with SS

xinsanedefeatx Yeah props to Jordan for going into the lions den. I think you’re right about him agreeing with some of the issues. Especially when he mentions how Rip has been good to him. Kinda like, I know he’s a little out there but the mans my friend.

imlee888 hahahahahahahahahahahaha you're so butthurt

peppers1616 not butt hurt, just like dafuq at mark. If someone my height had a FFMI of 28 at 10% body weight I'd be 185 ish lbs. not trying to get on steroids and/or be over 30% bodyfat to make marks delusions a reality

imlee888 is he forcing you to be 200lbs? There are obviously exceptions due to height, you don’t need to take things so literally. He’s talking about people of average height or above.

Im 5'8 215 and not fat

Caleb Melton im 5’11 and 210. 2 years into training and i look scrawny. I dont understand what people think 200lb is. You dont need to be 160lb ur whole life lol.