Bodyweight to height ratio | Ask Rip #51

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A very dense Starting Strength Seminar Q and A in which Rip and staff field questions about training vegans, programming considerations for intermediate women, making weight for high school sports, the use of orthotics for barbell training, and the optimal bodyweight to height ratio for powerlifting.
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@dylanl9532
@dylanl9532 7 жыл бұрын
I spotted Alan Thrall from untamed strength in the audience.
@Sean-ly8fm
@Sean-ly8fm 7 жыл бұрын
Dylan L He said he is a Starting Strength coach now.
@verfugbarkite
@verfugbarkite 7 жыл бұрын
Dylan L spotter! Well done
@adamuntz1130
@adamuntz1130 4 жыл бұрын
Good eye
@mattmosier6642
@mattmosier6642 4 жыл бұрын
TRAIN UNTAAAMMMMEEDDD!!!!
@kylefee4822
@kylefee4822 3 жыл бұрын
What time
@askdhuwuw
@askdhuwuw 7 жыл бұрын
His chair looks SUPER comfortable
@jordemort5359
@jordemort5359 3 жыл бұрын
Poor dude in the blue sitting in the metal folding chair 😂
@crankymcgee
@crankymcgee 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordemort5359 lol I was gonna say...he's probably an intern or something. The dude in the baseball cap is probably Rippetoe's right-hand-man and gets the decently comfortable chair.
@Jordan-hz1wr
@Jordan-hz1wr 3 жыл бұрын
MercuryNSJ Haha he’s the youngest of the bunch which means he gets the crappy chair
@billmiller2308
@billmiller2308 3 жыл бұрын
@@crankymcgee that’s Austin Baraki. Definitely not an intern. Check out Barbell Medicine to see more of him.
@Nokaut600
@Nokaut600 7 жыл бұрын
Rip's been hitting the doughnuts for sets across
@BryonLape
@BryonLape 7 жыл бұрын
Sets of fiveh with hip driveh.
@benjaminx7822
@benjaminx7822 7 жыл бұрын
Bryon Lape dip driveh
@BSFree-es5ml
@BSFree-es5ml 7 жыл бұрын
He has a donut eating disorder
@bennyboy968
@bennyboy968 6 жыл бұрын
supa set!
@hadhad129
@hadhad129 5 жыл бұрын
can't have just 4 gotta eat fivvehh
@dawgsmycopilot
@dawgsmycopilot 6 жыл бұрын
I so wish I'd been there for the fat client question! I'm that person ya'll are talking about. Starting Strength was a perfect program. I wasn't naturally athletic so I didn't feel like I could play a sport. I couldn't do a whole lot at that weight. (550) But I could stand there and pull heavy shit off the floor and I could push up heavy shit. So I did. And it forced me to eat correctly. I had to address all the shit that got me there if I wanted under that bar. So I lost weight and I've gotten stronger. I took notes, experimented with it. Did all the HIIT shit and cardio but it's just not as efficient as barbell training. I do activities. I garden, I swim some, I walk my little dogs. But I'm not doing the "exercise" that the women at the gym whose bodies haven't changed in six years are doing. They always ask me what I'm doing but when I tell them they mostly tell me reasons they can't do it.
@MxBell212
@MxBell212 4 жыл бұрын
While I don’t think all vegans have an eating disorder I developed one by becoming vegan I’m vegetarian now and I eat all of the eggs and mike and butter and ice cream and I’m fatter stronger and happier
@robertlevy4613
@robertlevy4613 4 жыл бұрын
dawgsmycopilot how are your results now?
@dawgsmycopilot
@dawgsmycopilot 5 жыл бұрын
My fellow vegans bitching about Coach on here need to realize some things: 1) That ain't his area. He ain't there to teach you how to eat, he's there to teach you how to lift. If you need nutrition information go to another vegan who happens to also lift. Patrik Baboumian comes to mind. If you aren't vegan he has others on his forum who discuss nutrition- go check it out- there are even some vegans on the forum. 2) So what he thinks we have an eating disorder. It doesn't make his lifting information any less valuable. And if you are stupid enough to set aside good lifting advice because he doesn't agree with us on nutrition then fine but that's only hurting you. He's not here to coddle us and be open to our ideas. He doesn't owe us anything. But if you want to lift, he will help you. Listening to him will help you put weight on the bar. 3) He doesn't recommend everyone drink the gallon of milk, ya'll need to read the program. There's plenty of us who don't need to do that. He recommends the milk thing for underweight people, especially young men and people who have a hard time gaining weight. You do not have to drink the gallon of milk a day to do the program as it is written- it's a lifting program not a drinking program.
@MixedMartialHelp
@MixedMartialHelp 7 жыл бұрын
11:30 I agree 100% that kids should not be cutting weight or dropping weight categories, and that anyone who makes them should go to jail. People chuckle after you say that, but I don't think it's funny, I honestly think Rip is right, and that it is a problem, not only in the USA.
@nathanielsoh7783
@nathanielsoh7783 6 жыл бұрын
The people we're talking about here is probably different. You're looking at kids who are probably putting in 8 - 16 hours a week training. I'm quite sure most of the kids here aren't overweight or obese.
@daxisperry7644
@daxisperry7644 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with losing weight. But people need to get off this philosophy of the number on the scale has to be lower. So many people I know who are not fat want to lose weight, not fat, just weight. I told him he should train strength because muscle mass and lifting weights would help him burn calories. "But if I gained muscle and lost fat, I might still go Up in weight." His response blew my mind.
@timlamb1156
@timlamb1156 3 ай бұрын
Most people chuckle because the sport specific training of wrestling will cause you to drop weight, most states if not all has alpha to deal with weight cuts
@MrWillDart
@MrWillDart 2 жыл бұрын
God bless coach Skip Johnston, he had us basically on starting strength in high school. I wish I was smart enough to continue it for the next 7 years. I’d be much stronger than I am now. But live and learn 5x5.
@matthewharris2971
@matthewharris2971 7 жыл бұрын
When you are sedentary and obese, barbell training IS cardio. Start with barbells. Supplement light cardio as needed to facilitate the barbell training. Once they are strong enough to handle serious cardio activities without their fat bodies destroying their joints in the process, increase cardio.
@Francesco-cj3oi
@Francesco-cj3oi 4 жыл бұрын
I guess what they meant is that nutrition makes an obese person, or anyone actually, less fat. Resistance training will help if the person is able to perform the movements, but I quote what Mark said "The nutrition becomes the training" meaning that for an obese person the amount of will ti takes to adhere to a diet plan is already pretty hard, so adding strength training on top of that right from the start, might interfere with their adherence to the weight loss program
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 4 жыл бұрын
Cardio is overrated. As long as you are strong and walk enough during the day, you should be fine.
@00Noontide
@00Noontide 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content guys, thanks!!
@CyrillicTM
@CyrillicTM 7 жыл бұрын
Alan Thrall! :D
@Scoot12321
@Scoot12321 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome
@ExtendedPachiderm
@ExtendedPachiderm 7 жыл бұрын
I see you there, Alan Thrall. Don't think you can hide from me.
@Sean-ly8fm
@Sean-ly8fm 7 жыл бұрын
So what is a good general guideline for body weight on Starting Strength? Maybe wrongly but I thought the main topic would be that.
@idpagroup6525
@idpagroup6525 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative also entertaining !!!
@BitsOfEternity
@BitsOfEternity 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the question about an obese person and how strength training can help them - and yes, this video is from 3 years ago, but the point is still relevant - I have to say that, when I first started working out, I learned enough by reading and watching videos to educate myself on the subjects, and I came to understand how diet matters, because, after a workout, I knew my muscles were going to grow, even just a little bit, because of the workout, and they needed good nutrition - they wanted good nutrition - and I had worked so hard to get them to the point where they were sore, that I wanted to reward them for working so hard, and the only way to properly reward them was to eat properly. I set my mind to understanding the relationship between the workout, with the intended result being to become stronger, and the diet that was required to do so, and it became a self fulfilling prophecy - I didn't want to eat garbage after I had worked my ass off in a heavy duty workout - my muscles were sore, and it was a good kind of sore, and I wanted to be able to do that again, and so I changed my eating habits. It really does work, if your client understands the purpose of 'soreness' of the muscles after a workout (during recovery, not due to injury) and the relationship between that soreness, and the gains from the workout, via that soreness, and the power that a good diet has over whether or not the gains will be what they could be.
@scottmoyer3854
@scottmoyer3854 7 жыл бұрын
Best ask rip yet
@rickscheck5330
@rickscheck5330 5 жыл бұрын
17:00 Question 17:20 A: Pronated feet. Flat feet need support. Keep knees out. Orthotics can help support "medial arch".
@l7521Opp
@l7521Opp 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry bro, theres something called "Light Infantry" we walk everywhere.
@drycell_gaming
@drycell_gaming 7 жыл бұрын
Allan thrall on deck
@erickellye.k.3686
@erickellye.k.3686 6 жыл бұрын
I see Alan Thrall Train Untammmeedddddddd!!!
@RoadToDocByRoidAlex
@RoadToDocByRoidAlex 7 жыл бұрын
12:44 the way he looks at Austin 😂😂
@Alex-lu3pn
@Alex-lu3pn 4 жыл бұрын
His thinking: You look at 198, 181lbs men? Every man should weight at least 200, regardless of height. He actually said that weight doesn't depend on height in another video.
@lim974
@lim974 7 жыл бұрын
Hey there. Could not you guys get microphones for Matt and Austin as well? It is sometimes hard to understand anything, especially when English is not your mother tongue.
@sixonesevenauroch8683
@sixonesevenauroch8683 7 жыл бұрын
I have been vegan for 3 years and 7 months. I have been on strength training for about 6 months and can bench 318 lbs, deadlift 540 lbs and squat 415 lbs at 200 lbs (was 155 lbs when I started), still on linear progression, adding (to the training weight, not sure how much to the PRs) 4 lbs/week on the bench press, 10 lbs/week on the squat (recently turned to low bar, Rippetoe style squats, allowing for a newly discovered massive posterior chain usage) and 10lbs/week on the deadlift (recently entered a gym that allows chalk, allowing for my weak link to fade away). My diet consists exclusively of avocado, blackstrap molasses, sesame, linseed, pumpkin seeds, brown rice, beans, pasta, sweet potato and soy protein; supplemented with creatine and B12 vitamin, wich is the only nutrient you need to supplement for, as a tradeoff to the way foods are produced and processed nowadays.
@scottwidiculous
@scottwidiculous 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get the poor dude on the left of Rip a better chair? His back must hurt
@muratuzun9822
@muratuzun9822 3 жыл бұрын
Thats austin baraki
@eisenhorn7588
@eisenhorn7588 7 жыл бұрын
Regarding the discussion on warming up: I was under the impression that, if cold due to weather, doing a very short warmup (3-5 mins depending on the need) on a rowing machine was a good idea. I remember seeing it mentioned somewhere (either in the book or in one of the SS website articles, I'll have to find it again.) I have found it to be useful before starting my warmup sets, but is it the opinion of the coaches that this is not necessary?
@sleepingtube
@sleepingtube 7 жыл бұрын
For very cold temps, yes. Otherwise, probably not necessary.
@pbmackatt
@pbmackatt 6 жыл бұрын
Here is a quote from SS third edition- ..."Warm-ups serve two very important purposes. First, warm-ups actually make the soft tissue - the muscles and tendons, and the ligaments that comprise the joints - warmer. General warm-up exercises increase the temperature in the soft tissue and mobilize the synovial fluid in the joints. These exercises include walking fast or jogging, riding an exercise bike (a better method, due to the greater range of motion the knees are exposed to during the exercise, better preparing them for the squat), or using a rowing machine (the best method, due to its range of motion and the full involvement of the back and arms as well as the legs). Specific warm-ups, like the empty-bar sets of the barbell exercise itself, also serve to warm, mobilize, and stretch the specific tissues involved in that particular movement. This step is important for injury prevention, since it is more difficult to injure a warm body than a cold one.... ...It is foolishness to neglect warm-ups. Many government school programs, in an attempt to implement a strength program without allotting sufficient time to do it, omit most of this crucial part of the workout. The coach in charge of a program that does this commits malpractice. Please heed the following rather strong statement: if your schedule does not allow time for proper warm-up, it does not allow time for training at all. It is better to omit strength training from your program than to suffer the inevitable injuries that will result from lack of warm- up. Yes, warm-ups are that critical." I guess things have changed since the book was printed.
@machomarmot5070
@machomarmot5070 7 жыл бұрын
I found this to be slightly informative and very entertaining! Lol
@Bentley2
@Bentley2 2 ай бұрын
When do you go from novice phase 1 to novice phase 2?
@GrungeRockGod
@GrungeRockGod 7 жыл бұрын
clarence intensifies
@gasbaroni
@gasbaroni 6 жыл бұрын
First of all, he hasn't been vegan for that long, second of all, he's an athletic freak and a work horse, third, he's on steroids.
@Alex-lu3pn
@Alex-lu3pn 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta check if his steroids are really vegan, cause they definitely aren't natural.
@gasbaroni
@gasbaroni 4 жыл бұрын
@@vusaltahmazli5917 He actually adressed this in his previous videos and was very open about it.
@ksurmacki
@ksurmacki 7 жыл бұрын
I beg you Rip, make a new video about front squat
@gettingstrongerfriend2738
@gettingstrongerfriend2738 7 жыл бұрын
Please set up mike so we can hear other people besides Rip. Although I come here for Rip, it would be nice to hear others input and questions not just the sage's answers. Rip the sound quality on a lot of these vids is poor.
@patrickvanmeter2922
@patrickvanmeter2922 6 жыл бұрын
The only thing in this video I can agree with is no warmup and no cool down. Over 50 years of lifting and have never done either. At 76 years old, still don't.
@andrewhezekiahdaniel
@andrewhezekiahdaniel 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of people mentioning Clarence who is an incredible athlete, but he is juiced to the gills, so his example isn't applicable here.
@klevdavful
@klevdavful 7 жыл бұрын
I'm telling you guys And I've never met him in person or talked with him on the phone but rip knows what he's taking about
@zachlloyd9392
@zachlloyd9392 5 жыл бұрын
Actually really big people are surprisingly naturally strong once they lose the weight due to muscle mass gained from carrying thier weight. I have fat guy calves from weighting 315 for a few years, now at 260-280 My calves are huge for my weight and get comments from people on how to get big calves. I tell them get really big for a few years and BOOM! you're off team no-calves.
@phalanx1790
@phalanx1790 3 жыл бұрын
fat people have no more muscle mass than any other untrained person.
@joshuaworsham120
@joshuaworsham120 7 жыл бұрын
I'll be consuming animal protein until I die, but some people are vegan for moral reasons, which I understand. We had a vegan Olympic weightlifter in the last games. it must be possible to be strong, just not optimal.
@sweetcheex
@sweetcheex 7 жыл бұрын
I don't see how it's not optimal there's no science that's projected in what Ripp is saying. Having 2-500% BCAA profile and adequate protein a day in a caloric surplus is what I'm getting. Exactly how isn't that optimal?
@monkeyxpwner
@monkeyxpwner 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it's very very possible to be jacked, strong and vegan. And if you think otherwise than honestly you don't have a grasp on nutrition. And no I'm not a vegan.
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 4 жыл бұрын
@@sweetcheex Vegans have to supplement with lots of b vitamins and amino acids and protein in order to stay healthy.
@IRONMAN79101
@IRONMAN79101 3 жыл бұрын
Legend
@Jalfred92
@Jalfred92 7 жыл бұрын
I ate 5500kcals, 200g protein plant based fairly easily: I ate microwaved sweet potatoes with guacamole, curried lentils with coconut cream, protein shakes with bananas, mixed veg strifrys with chickpeas and wholewheat noodles. These are all quick and easy meals.
@Bradington
@Bradington 5 жыл бұрын
Compared to what? I'm sure you can eat a lot of processed crap designed in a laboratory, but how is your gut health? What studies do you have that show the long term efficacy of such an unnatural diet?
@rohitmalyala8951
@rohitmalyala8951 5 жыл бұрын
Bradford Bradington none of that was lab food. Millions and millions of people live their entire lives as vegetarians. They’re perfectly fine-you can really get away with a lot when it comes to nutrition
@aymanlafaz
@aymanlafaz 5 жыл бұрын
It took u 5500 kcal to achieve 200 g of protein yet in an omnivorous diet u can get 200 g of protein and not exceed 2500 kcals easy
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 4 жыл бұрын
Carbs lead to diabetes.
@KRSapphire
@KRSapphire 7 жыл бұрын
cue vegan outrage..
@benjaminx7822
@benjaminx7822 7 жыл бұрын
Did all this vegans just GOMAD?
@ezioauditore5616
@ezioauditore5616 7 жыл бұрын
I hate the fact that vegans like to preach and talk BS trying to change people life like those damn Amway People It's people choice to eat what they like, same as people who drink coke or not
@jokecukie
@jokecukie 7 жыл бұрын
Johnz Bobz You don't have to kill to drink coke. If you don't think killing animals begs a moral question you are pretty ignorant. I am not a vegan, but your argument is weak and you sound dumb.
@brianeverill3537
@brianeverill3537 5 жыл бұрын
Cue 'outrage' at bigotry!! What's wrong with outrage at 'bigotry'
@Re3iRtH
@Re3iRtH 5 жыл бұрын
"He's got an eating disorder" Says the guy with the 48" waist.
@patrickdreesenreactions4553
@patrickdreesenreactions4553 5 жыл бұрын
Peep Alan thrall in the second row on the far right
@hjaltalinator
@hjaltalinator 7 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the platz squat?
@johanhansson4574
@johanhansson4574 3 жыл бұрын
Haha butt in the ground for 30reps. Ripoff a toe will explode.
@147DegreesWest
@147DegreesWest 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!! 8 sets of 3 is ok? Thank you!!!
@battledabully
@battledabully 5 жыл бұрын
lav everyone up or us a boom mic bc this is hard to listen with different audio levels lol
@Jasonsprague1981
@Jasonsprague1981 7 жыл бұрын
Allan Thrall!
@altemple5322
@altemple5322 7 жыл бұрын
need to have all staff micd up
@MrWaitwhat1
@MrWaitwhat1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol i cut from 140 to 125 when i wrestled. That was a shit couple years
@tanisj2470
@tanisj2470 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap it’s Alan thrall
@brettpacker2779
@brettpacker2779 5 жыл бұрын
starting strength will get you to the plateau maybe a bit quicker but there's no magic
@fewhavestrength
@fewhavestrength 6 жыл бұрын
Fucking awesome videos !
@verfugbarkite
@verfugbarkite 7 жыл бұрын
Marks answers remind me of his programme, i.e one size fits all. There's no point asking him these kind of odd questions, that's not what he's about
@RustyIronloins
@RustyIronloins 7 жыл бұрын
Who are the other panelists?
@LumberDrum
@LumberDrum 5 жыл бұрын
Austin Baracki (Barbell Medicine) Matt Reynolds (Barbell Logic)
@Rhye_
@Rhye_ 7 жыл бұрын
so he gets a legitimate training question about a vegan trainee, he says he not only calls him a psychiatric patient, he dismisses the person who asked the question, and also refuses to help. my biggest problem is that Austin Baraki started answering but he interrupted him just to dismiss the question, what the hell...
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN 7 жыл бұрын
Being vegan is stupid. I was stupid for almost 10 years and it was terrible for my health. There are things in Animal based food that your body NEEDS. This is why Vegans tend to be small and weak.
@disposablebeast3683
@disposablebeast3683 7 жыл бұрын
Yep. The recipe for being miserable is being a vegan. I know from experience. It was an eating disorder.
@VegetoStevieD
@VegetoStevieD 7 жыл бұрын
Here's the problem. Mark has been asked most of these questions so many times that he needs to be able to draw a line, so he can stay within his realm of expertise. Here are some example questions that cause the same problem- "What do I do with an athlete that doesn't want to squat or deadlift?" "What do I do with an athlete that will only train once per month?" "What do I do with an athlete that wont eat meat or drink milk?" "What do I do with an athlete that doesn't make payments when I bill him/her?" Why should he bother answering those questions? Most of those questions are 'You're not doing the program". If you don't squat and deadlift, YNDTP. If you don't eat, YNDTP. If you don't train regularly, YNDTP. "Hi, Mark, what does a Starting Strength coach do with a client that refuses to do Starting Strength?" WTF, how can you possibly find a way to criticize Mark here? VEGANISM is NOT DOING THE PROGRAM. Mark is only responsible for Starting Strength, not some other bullshit.
@selfcritical
@selfcritical 7 жыл бұрын
There's not reason you can't supplement protein/creatine and do the program. The sum total of changes will be "your food is going to be more expensive than it would otherwise be"
@benjaminx7822
@benjaminx7822 7 жыл бұрын
Khechari Im highly plant based and I cant do nothing but agree whit what you are saying edit:with
@Menello
@Menello 7 жыл бұрын
Need to mic the other two dudes too! Sounded like they had good input too. Appreciated the video though.
@StrongButAwkward
@StrongButAwkward 7 жыл бұрын
Like, how hard is it to just say "eat lots of beans" in response to a question about protein for vegans?
@MixedMartialHelp
@MixedMartialHelp 7 жыл бұрын
Because then on at least a sub-concious level he would have to admit it's not really fair to kill stuff for brotein, when you can just eat lots of beans. Far easier to pass it off as something else.
@MultiSoccerMan
@MultiSoccerMan 5 жыл бұрын
@@ajasen jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-014-0064-5 Here is a study comparing Pea Protein to Whey Protein for muscle building which concludes: "Since no difference was obtained between the two protein groups, vegetable pea proteins could be used as an alternative to Whey-based dietary products." The only protein source deficient in essential amino acids is gelatin which contains no tryptophan. Where do animals get the proteins that build their muscle tissues? Plants are the original source.
@JM-fo1te
@JM-fo1te 5 жыл бұрын
Because he enjoys triggering people. Just laugh.
@c6q3a24
@c6q3a24 5 жыл бұрын
@@MultiSoccerMan Humans are not ruminant herbivores for fucks sake. We do not have the digestion system of ruminant herbivores. Try eating grass all day and see if you can grow the 400kg of lean muscle a cow can...
@stevenzwier8974
@stevenzwier8974 5 жыл бұрын
Rip is a training coach. Real old school. Not the guy to ask about vegan-specific nutrition. Calories are calories, protein is protein. It's not hard to figure out. Get a bag of pea protein and a bag of brown rice protein and mix 1:1 and you have an outstanding protein supplement with no carb, 1 g fat per serving, and no farts or acne. Peanut butter has 2,800 calories in a 1 lb jar, 3 quarters of which is fat. Rice, and black beans with a peanut butter sauce is filling and fuels gains. Don't ask the 60 year old overweight bbq fiend for vegan diet advice lmao
@jabberwock14
@jabberwock14 4 жыл бұрын
What did he say @ 21:10?
@TuomasKivisto
@TuomasKivisto 4 жыл бұрын
Or to look at some people streching
@idkisaidit
@idkisaidit 3 жыл бұрын
Lol rip fielding questions is always so difficult to watch good lord
@christianporter6842
@christianporter6842 5 жыл бұрын
45x5x2 to warm up and whiskey to cool down. Can we substitute with vodka?
@realSpook
@realSpook 7 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that's alan thrall
@rajinfootonchuriquen
@rajinfootonchuriquen 7 жыл бұрын
I like the answer about stretching. Animal dont stretch, why do we stretch?
@michaelstuparich5473
@michaelstuparich5473 7 жыл бұрын
I wish they'd fix the sound issues on these videos. Can hear Rip fine and sometimes the questions, but everything else is a mess.
@dude157
@dude157 7 жыл бұрын
Best weight class is simple. Keep gaining size and strength till your deadlift leverages get screwed, then you know you have gone one weight class too far.
@Re3iRtH
@Re3iRtH 5 жыл бұрын
So 5'11" in the 74kg weight class is too light? My first meet is in one week. Small state so looking to place.
@Alex-lu3pn
@Alex-lu3pn 4 жыл бұрын
@@Re3iRtH that's far too skinny even for women
@StrongButAwkward
@StrongButAwkward 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like if your goal is to have fun as long as you have the time and money you can compete whenever the hell you want to. If you goal is to get strong enough to ever be competitive and actually win on a large stage, interrupting your training to compete too early and too often is going to stop you from ever getting really strong. It's a waste of your valuable training time to hop on a state stage ever 6 months from your first year of training on if you have any aspirations of being on a national team. Take the time to build a base of strength before you spend your time and money to test it.
@roasticle
@roasticle 7 жыл бұрын
need better mic'ing for these... like mics for each guy up front and a free mic for the people asking questions
@GrandmasterFerg
@GrandmasterFerg 6 жыл бұрын
Pumpkin seed has some of the most luecine per gram of any food.
@whatdaheck32
@whatdaheck32 5 жыл бұрын
I HAVE FOAMY MUSCLES!
@teachingsofneville
@teachingsofneville 7 жыл бұрын
Rip, I have a tremendous amount of respect for your knowledge of human physiology, lifting, and programming, and I've learned a great deal from you. To declare that eating a plant-based/vegan diet is an eating disorder....not only is that simply untrue, but its incredibly inappropriate, insensitive, and unprofessional. Dr. B.... As an MD, I KNOW you don't agree with Rip on this one. It's clear that you were going to attempt to actually answer the question with a dose of value before Mark completely disregarded a serious, legitimate question being asked by someone who was genuinely looking to help her client. There are FAR more vegans than you realize following Starting Strength, and I promise the number will continue to grow. I sincerely hope that Dr. B and the other medical professionals in the SS community can find it within them to bring some real value to people following a plant-based diet. Or, at the very least, put a stop to the sort of ludicrous and ignorant statements from Mark at the beginning of this video.
@jk3639
@jk3639 6 жыл бұрын
Moving Millennials no. Veganism for retards
@ghollisjr
@ghollisjr 6 жыл бұрын
Moving Millennials What is an eating disorder? If you have a physical flaw with your jaw, teeth, tongue, etc. that would get in the way of eating, would that be an eating disorder? As far as I've seen the term used, it applies to psychological reasons for failing to eat a healthy diet in a healthy way. Vegans eliminate meat and all animal products from their diets. Some people think this can be done in a healthy way, and others disagree. It comes down to the definition of a healthy diet. Is it healthy to consume industrial products to replace missing vitamins from your diet which would have been supplied by animal products? Rip could make a very strong case for his claim that veganism is an eating disorder if he did so from the perspective of attacking the motivations of most vegans. Are you a vegan because you think animal products are bad for you? Then you're demonstrably wrong, and your refusal to accept your mistake could constitute a delusion and lead to the diagnosis of an eating disorder, just as how anorexic people have delusions about their appearance. Are you a vegan because you believe it is morally wrong to use animals? This would fall closer to religious dogma than psychological problems, but depending on the level of delusion involved in this conclusion, it could also be evidence of an eating disorder. The medical establishment is in the business of being the medical establishment. Psychology is especially prone to quackery followed by sweeping it under the rug later, introducing more quackery, etc. I am concerned about people who seek out radical ideologies and ethical systems such as veganism in general, simply because it is typically a sign of unsolved personal issues that are being projected on the rest of the world instead of being addressed as part of individuation.
@gwarf5555
@gwarf5555 6 жыл бұрын
Vegans have an eating disorder. Their world view doesn't make sense. They are a waste of time.
@shanecorrigan8524
@shanecorrigan8524 6 жыл бұрын
I think he meant the specific case of that person
@0Arman0
@0Arman0 6 жыл бұрын
i agree with you millenial he needs to approach this with the same logic and thoughtfulness that he approaches everything else and he fell short
@dalebraithwaite6890
@dalebraithwaite6890 4 жыл бұрын
Are bbm bbl and ss the same company then?
@tombarry4777
@tombarry4777 3 жыл бұрын
No they had a falling out. Baraki and feigumbaum set up bbm.. thrall went with them too. I guess the egos were too big for one company. I'm more an ss fan
@dalebraithwaite6890
@dalebraithwaite6890 3 жыл бұрын
How about bbm?
@dalebraithwaite6890
@dalebraithwaite6890 3 жыл бұрын
What was the falling out?
@reggie7716
@reggie7716 3 жыл бұрын
@@dalebraithwaite6890 programming protocol was part of it, I believe political opinions might have been part as well. Barbell medicine put out a letter making a statement that kind of addressed the falling out.
@FirstLast-mq3mv
@FirstLast-mq3mv 7 жыл бұрын
Shame that almost all of the discussion in this comment section is about the first couple of mins of a 20 minute video
@duncanshaheen6517
@duncanshaheen6517 3 жыл бұрын
When you spot Allen thrall
@TheJmeier9
@TheJmeier9 5 жыл бұрын
how do I join this cult?
@Delabeled
@Delabeled 4 жыл бұрын
Rip is the best. He gives no shits about peoples feelings. He isn't here to make you feel emotionally safe. He is here to make you strong. He's blunt but he knows his stuff.
@MrDmac9996
@MrDmac9996 4 жыл бұрын
maybe mike up the other two dudes as well!?!
@shilohsanders5475
@shilohsanders5475 Жыл бұрын
The vegan question really isn’t a difficult one. Put him on a vegan protein powder and have him blend in a big scoop of peanut or almond butter in twice a day, and make sure he has at least a cup and a half of beans or lentils with lunch and dinner every day and he’ll get results 80-90% as fast as the people without an “eating disorder”.
@anarchic_ramblings
@anarchic_ramblings 2 жыл бұрын
The strongest men in the world DO have the most muscle mass. Brian Shaw is over 200 kg!
@grahamstephenson1505
@grahamstephenson1505 7 жыл бұрын
Does he have the the same attitude towards vegetarians too? Anybody know?
@filipposlioukas2892
@filipposlioukas2892 6 жыл бұрын
Graham Stephenson are you asking so that you have the right to criticise him? Lol
@robbyx6846
@robbyx6846 10 ай бұрын
Calling a vegan having a eating disorder when mark has a protruding gut and multiple medical procedures like his diet is so much superior
@hjaltalinator
@hjaltalinator 7 жыл бұрын
To the first question about the vegan: does he have a problem recovering?
@jms0313
@jms0313 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@gravitatieconstante8974
@gravitatieconstante8974 7 жыл бұрын
Eating disorder? 😂
@WTFisupDennys
@WTFisupDennys 11 ай бұрын
Go somewhere else weirdo
@laynenortonslawyer5791
@laynenortonslawyer5791 6 жыл бұрын
Next time anyone has a diet and nutrition question for Rip I want you to look at his gut in these videos and ask youself, should I really be listening to his advice?
@james_games9684
@james_games9684 7 жыл бұрын
Yea rip may be fat but even in his 50s he is stronger than 90%+ of the kids crying about abs
@georgechristiansen6785
@georgechristiansen6785 7 жыл бұрын
I believe he is over 60, but the real comparison is how fat is he compared to his peers? He is not nearly as fat as MANY older folks and WAY stronger than almost all of them.
@Jmack7861
@Jmack7861 4 жыл бұрын
I love how at IPF worlds almost none of the 181 lifters are under like 5”10’ lmao
@murozman
@murozman 3 жыл бұрын
That's quite surprising. I didn't know that. Almost all record holders seem to be short little guys for their weight.
@michaels7159
@michaels7159 2 жыл бұрын
You mean the opposite right? Your comments is stating that they're all 5'10" or taller.
@averagejoe5016
@averagejoe5016 2 жыл бұрын
Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure they cut weight. So 181ers aren’t really 181
@JergenSplergen
@JergenSplergen 5 жыл бұрын
The really important thing he said about veganism was "it's not compatible with strength training." That's the answer to all the veganism questions.
@dibdap2373
@dibdap2373 4 жыл бұрын
@@simonadventures3727 how exactly is it cleansing?
@jasonblahasfilthyfoot8427
@jasonblahasfilthyfoot8427 5 жыл бұрын
No one in that room looks like they lift.
@JohnDoe-bx1bw
@JohnDoe-bx1bw 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone's so crazy about the veganism point that no one seems to care about stretching/mobility work bs. Of course you don't need it if you don't plan on staying actually healthy and injure-free.
@filipposlioukas2892
@filipposlioukas2892 6 жыл бұрын
Alexey Eremin how does stretching help you stay injury free exactly?
@thesmartguy3523
@thesmartguy3523 4 жыл бұрын
ANOTHER MORON
@ladev91
@ladev91 6 жыл бұрын
JAIL TIME! 5 YEARS MIN!!!
@HammerBlow500
@HammerBlow500 7 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, Austin's legs look like tree trunks! 💪🏼
@MrDtempest
@MrDtempest 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure why Rip doesn't respond to reasonable questions in a reasonable way. Bill Pearl is a vegetarian - he seems to have done OK. Rip is hurting his Starting Strength coaches... He is starting strength, and when he pontificates on things that he's not an expert in - he only sounds like an ignoramus, which hurts SS coaches.
@ChernobylAudio666
@ChernobylAudio666 5 жыл бұрын
Pearl became a vegetarian at age 39 which means for 39 years he ate and trained with a meat diet. That means I could train as a powerlifter for 20 years, break a bunch of records, switch to being a vegan and now I'd be the vegan powerlifter that broke a bunch of records? C'mon now.
@KamSwope
@KamSwope 4 жыл бұрын
Goodbye snowflake go cry somewhere else fuckin buffoon
@michaels7159
@michaels7159 2 жыл бұрын
@@KamSwope LMAO you're clearly the snowflake. Look how triggered you got over a critique of Rippetoe's nonsense. Cry harder.
@michaels7159
@michaels7159 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 Clarence Kennedy has been vegan for years and can outlift everybody in that room. And he looks way better than all of them. Vegan diets are compatible with strength training. Rippetoe is wrong all the time.
@profitfever
@profitfever 4 жыл бұрын
Dont get me wrong Veganism isn't something im a fan of. But RIP was rude about that at the start. He could have given a more compationate answer. Also give the dr a microphone for gods sake.
@Jmack7861
@Jmack7861 4 жыл бұрын
If you’re under 200 lbs you’re a woman doesn’t matter height
@InfamousTVHD
@InfamousTVHD 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like your a woman.
@jojojlc7070
@jojojlc7070 6 жыл бұрын
Are these guys fitness youtubers? I can see Alan Thrall or atleast a look-alike on the side, beside the red poster.
@temperedwell6295
@temperedwell6295 6 жыл бұрын
Rippetoe is a primitive blockhead. His entire approach way oversimplifies the most complex machine in the world-- the human body.
@stamperteaching
@stamperteaching 4 жыл бұрын
Many, many, many strong vegan athletes out there (Kendrick Farris and Patrick Baboumian to name two off the top of my head...that hold records). Unfortunate to be so dismissive with that first question. Would probably come across better to admit you don't know something rather than to criticize something you obviously haven't taken any time to research.
@PlugThePull
@PlugThePull 6 жыл бұрын
INB4: "Mark Rippetoe worst of the fitness industry" hahahaha
@NicoDevs1998
@NicoDevs1998 4 жыл бұрын
203 people are vegans
@michaels7159
@michaels7159 2 жыл бұрын
good
@TheBlooRayChannel
@TheBlooRayChannel 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Rippetoe is a very knowledgeable man, but he undoubtedly is also a narcissist.
@oiseo4498
@oiseo4498 7 жыл бұрын
TheBlooRayChannel wow you are soo right. The thousands of people that he has gotten strong and drastically improved quality of life(including me) must have all been accidents.
@TheBlooRayChannel
@TheBlooRayChannel 7 жыл бұрын
You don't get the point I'm making, do you? I'm not vegan. But putting vegans down outright claiming it to be an eating disorder is a bit pathetic.
@HDloly
@HDloly 6 жыл бұрын
Don't eat for guilt is a eating disorder. Vegans thing they are "eating clean", when there is no "clean living" in civilisation. They believe they are saving animals lives even livestock production only grow, and people who eat meat are "killers" when 90% of them never even saw a cow or chicken alive. Veganism "for the animals" is eating disorder. Call honey "bee vomit" is eating disorder. Eating only plants to raise awareness about animal production isn't the same as thing and say meat is poison or murder.
@willnill7946
@willnill7946 5 жыл бұрын
Vegan is a religion
@poomuncherful
@poomuncherful 7 жыл бұрын
Eating disorder my ass
@dard4642
@dard4642 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not vegan but, goddamn, that was a dumb answer -- dumb. In other words -- you're not welcome here. Verrrry 21st century, Pawpaw.. My favorite part was how he kept reiterating that he isn't a psychologist, yet continued to make psychological diagnoses. I'm 100% with him, though, on making kids cut weight. High school athletes commonly suffer disordered eating and exercising for the rest of their lives.
@MrTrenttness
@MrTrenttness 7 жыл бұрын
I Like Rip and have two of his books which really set me right with weight training. Having said that, I wish he'ld loose weight. The labored breathing while sitting is too much.
@tezwoacz
@tezwoacz 7 жыл бұрын
at his age you would not give a fuck, he is basicly retired
@ChernobylAudio666
@ChernobylAudio666 7 жыл бұрын
He's 60 and still lifts more than you. What's your point? Why is everybody so damn concerned about the choices he makes? Worry about your own back yard.
@MrTrenttness
@MrTrenttness 7 жыл бұрын
You two guys think his health is a good reflection of the strength sports? I don't. And he doesn't get a free pass on being two or three years away from a major heart attack while representing strength sports any more than anyone else. This an opinion but it's an opinion shared by veterans of fitness, body building, has well has strength sports. And just has importantly alot of young men looking in at these sports and seeing the broken bodies of out of shape gurus wonder what use is this knowledge. I see becoming strong has part of a deeper search for value, porpoise, and meaning in a person's life has well has embracing masculinity and control over yourself. Has a culture we should embrace fitness, which includes strength, without makeing strength the end all result. Could a person say defending Ripatoe's weight is part of the fat acceptance movment? Yeah, and that's garbage.
@clayemenhiser
@clayemenhiser 5 жыл бұрын
Being vegan is not an eating disorder. If a vegan needs more protein, have them eat lentils. They are the best value food for protein. There are plenty of ways to get calories without eating meat.
@emanuelperono1562
@emanuelperono1562 5 жыл бұрын
Who's that beauty on the right? With that beautiful blonde hair.
@TheFloozi
@TheFloozi 5 жыл бұрын
Clarence Kennedy would disagree with the first questions's answer.
@neemshunter6951
@neemshunter6951 7 жыл бұрын
So post workout stretching's a waste of time?
@filipposlioukas2892
@filipposlioukas2892 6 жыл бұрын
neems hunter yup
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