The Kalevala (According To Scott Sandwich)

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Tom Hogan

Tom Hogan

12 жыл бұрын

The Kalevala is Finland's epic poem. Rooted deep in the Suomi culture, everyone in the country knows the stories, the characters, the poetry...
But the English translations have never been an effective way to communicate the complexities and power of the epic poem. The English vocabulary can't seem to handle the poetics of the Finnish language, nor the forced 8-syllable structure of the Kalevala runes.
... Until now.
Rather than trying to modernise The Kalevala, in this performance Scott Sandwich brings to light the awkwardness and impossibilities of translating The Kalevala into English, exploring the difference in language and culture, in a fast-paced and energetic live performance. This is a unique take on academic poetry and performance, incorporating humour and a virtuosic handle on performance poetry.
This performance was created by Scott Sandwich (aka Tom Hogan) in January 2012, during his residency at Arteles, Finland. Scott Sandwich is an Australian performance poet who performs rants, readings and awkward hip hop, telling stories about dates, death and the apocalypse. scottsandwich.com - scottsandwich@gmail.com
Created by Tom Hogan in January 2012, during his residency at Arteles, Finland. Featured at the New Performance Festival, Turku (www.newperformance.fi/en/index...) - as part of MUU Gallery's "Performance Voyage II" (muu.fi/site/?p=5951&lang=en)
Visit scottsandwich.com
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@oldinion
@oldinion 8 жыл бұрын
Kalevala should be a tv series.
@huntersmith8586
@huntersmith8586 7 жыл бұрын
oldinion so should the Ring if the Nibelung and the Silmarilian.
@DocEonChannel
@DocEonChannel 6 жыл бұрын
I saw one back in the 80s. It was all in Finnish, of course.
@haliaeetus8221
@haliaeetus8221 5 жыл бұрын
That would be some trippy extended visual Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
@iirovaltonen4258
@iirovaltonen4258 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe an AAA video game would do
@akechijubeimitsuhide
@akechijubeimitsuhide 2 жыл бұрын
@@huntersmith8586 I'd love to see a filmed version of the Ring with all the special effects that can't be done on stage, like flying horses, proper giants, dragon and everything.
@MestisTheManiac
@MestisTheManiac 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that when Lemminkäinen's mother stitched him back together, she used a bee to reanimate his lifeless corpse.
@TheNugettinage
@TheNugettinage 9 жыл бұрын
So before you can really understand a lot of the stuff behind Kalevala you need to know what all the singing is about; as was the case in a lot of cultures back then, knowledge was passed on through song. Therefore the eldest men in towns and villages knew the largest parts of the song, and therefore they knew more of the world. From these wise men there grew the idea of magic; with the knowledge that the wise men (and women too I guess) could impart to the ones asking, "miracles" could be made. There's two good ways of showing this from the Kalevala, the encounter between Joukahainen and Väinämöinen and the encounter between Väinämöinen and Antero Vipunen. With Joukahainen and Väinämöinen, Joukahainen hears of a wise man who is great at singing (AKA he has memorized many, many verses). Joukahainen goes to meet Väinämöinen and sings what he knows to him, but Väinämöinen says that what he sings is what babies would know already, then wrecks his shit by singing for ages and ages about all the knowledge he has, which is a large amount since Väinämöinen is the oldest human alive. With Väinämöinen and Vipunen, Väinämöinen needs information on how to build a boat, and Vipunen the giant has this information. Therefore he meets Vipunen, and Vipunen sings him the verses he needs, therefore "gives him the magic". Väinämöinen now knows the parts that he needs to know about building the boat, and finishes his quest.
@vaahtobileet
@vaahtobileet 4 жыл бұрын
Kalevala seems very gnostic, and I suppose your first paragraph explains why gnosticism was such a popular idea. I'm Finnish but I didn't really think about that aspect of the Kalevala before reading The Silmarillion by Tolkien, where such ideas pervade the story everywhere (and which otherwise heavily and directly borrowed from Kalevala, for example of the song-battle between Väinämöinen and Joukahainen). I know this comment is 4 years old, but I'm interested if you think there's anything to this idea. Maybe I just see gnosticism everywhere.
@Camelwrestler
@Camelwrestler 4 жыл бұрын
Love your comment. Thanks for singing.
@onerva0001
@onerva0001 2 жыл бұрын
Both men and women sang these songs.
@aurorahietanen5354
@aurorahietanen5354 7 жыл бұрын
My English teacher showed this to our class (in Finland) and I'm only back here because I had to come and drop this video a like because this guy just compared Hotel California to Kalevala and to me that is incredible but also kinda insane because that song is a legend and when I heard the line about it dropped my phone in class and everyone thought I was weird and crazy. Anyway yeah great video and thank you for making it!!
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 7 жыл бұрын
You = Hotel California.
@creativevisualvideoartist
@creativevisualvideoartist 2 жыл бұрын
this guy deserves a beat producer to make some dope instrumentals tracks for his unique story telling interpretation of our Finnish epic
@angelinejohnson9511
@angelinejohnson9511 2 жыл бұрын
make it traditional: some sami-type hand drums, a mouth harp, spoons, some joiking. awesome.
@creativevisualvideoartist
@creativevisualvideoartist 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelinejohnson9511 nice idea💡... anyways, our Finnish epic Kalevala is maybe more associated with Carelian instruments, like Vainamoisen's string instrument Kantele, with it's typical sound, accompanying the Kalevalan story telling style of allitteration, parallelism, rhythms etc. The traditional sami joiking would do of course as well as the artistic form is always free. ( the Sami people's northern areas in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia are a regional independent part of itself)
@ssalovaa
@ssalovaa 6 жыл бұрын
1:36 I'd like to add that väinämöinen bled the equivalent of 7 boats.
@juniperthewolf5624
@juniperthewolf5624 2 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely dying, here. 100%. Excellent.
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
But I'm trying to help you LIVE.
@angelinejohnson9511
@angelinejohnson9511 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomHogan and live much richer lives, indeed.
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 10 жыл бұрын
Sooo... My video of The Kalevala has just hit over 20000 views. Weird. I'm also really really happy about it.
@catherineterracini8944
@catherineterracini8944 10 жыл бұрын
this is the best. the actual best.
@catherineterracini8944
@catherineterracini8944 10 жыл бұрын
Now do the Mahabharata. Go.
@cloneofgramsci
@cloneofgramsci 9 жыл бұрын
Catherine Terracini That would be wonderful to watch
@wfcoaker1398
@wfcoaker1398 8 жыл бұрын
+Tom Hogan (Scott Sandwich) That's because it's brilliant, old man. This rocks!!! You make the meter work, it's excellent!
@katjathesaurus3800
@katjathesaurus3800 8 жыл бұрын
how da bleep ya from land down... ah!! ... must b cultural insight by disobediance or fruit regulations.
@sammakkotonttu
@sammakkotonttu 11 жыл бұрын
The kid in the end represents Jesus. In the end of the poem Väinämöinen leaves and says that he will come back when he is needed and this newly born kid becomes the King of Carelia. It reflects the situation when christianity came to Finland and our ancient gods were set aside and partly forgotten.
@59Lemony
@59Lemony 4 жыл бұрын
Jewsus
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 11 жыл бұрын
The original English translation contains 8 syllables to every line, in rhyming couplets, for 1000 pages. I pretty much stick to that structure in this translation, but as it's being performed, I naturally vary and colour certain phrases. :) (However, the installation text version I composed is much more strict in form.)
@randomaccount6387
@randomaccount6387 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this! It's extra funny when you've read the Kalevala and know this is pretty much what happened. (I never understood why people believe old epics to be boring.Just look at all this wonderful weirdness!) Using the same metre as the poem is a really nice touch, BTW.
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
That was the hardest part! Thanks for noticing. :)
@MikaelKKarlsson
@MikaelKKarlsson 7 жыл бұрын
HBO, just do it.
@petrusinvictus3603
@petrusinvictus3603 5 жыл бұрын
So its all in the Game of Thrones! This guy has some serious teaching skills.
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 11 жыл бұрын
hahaha.. best compressed form of kalevala i have ever seen/heared well performed.. best regards from finland
@tietosanakirja
@tietosanakirja Жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to read Kalevala. Thanks for this.
@taleofsampo3104
@taleofsampo3104 4 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. Love this rendition
@southwestjacque
@southwestjacque 8 жыл бұрын
I really love this. This was my first introduction to the Kalevala before I picked up the actual text, you perform it so well!
@gerbstoy
@gerbstoy 9 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. Love it.
@uterauch3433
@uterauch3433 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.a.lot.! Amazing !!!
@HooDatDonDar
@HooDatDonDar 8 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a photo in the background. But the ancient epic bardic awesomeness of the Kalevala turned it into a real forest, so you walked into it. That's what happened, right?
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 8 жыл бұрын
+HooDatDonDar I do it everywhere I go. My living room is just a green screen, and every morning I just recite the epic narrative of my workplace.
@jamiepeirce526
@jamiepeirce526 5 жыл бұрын
Amazinginen
@carov2782
@carov2782 3 жыл бұрын
Also Väinämöinen was also already an old man when he was born because he was in there for so long
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
I relate.
@longhorngirl17
@longhorngirl17 11 жыл бұрын
Completely and totally amazing.
@sillilaari
@sillilaari 10 жыл бұрын
That was awesome!!! :D
@sharibommarito5939
@sharibommarito5939 10 жыл бұрын
I love your translation...brilliant - Thank you
@cecichalave
@cecichalave 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Rearda
@Rearda 10 жыл бұрын
That was very, very entertaining!
@onerva0001
@onerva0001 2 жыл бұрын
I like this version! With love from Finland :-)
@jodivrose
@jodivrose 11 жыл бұрын
Truly brilliant! I've always wondered about that story but could never quite make it out...
@inkerlot
@inkerlot 10 жыл бұрын
awesome work thankyou :)
@Chiros666
@Chiros666 10 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@toddgilens6878
@toddgilens6878 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes: the Mahabharata! Pleeeze...
@blixten2928
@blixten2928 4 жыл бұрын
A wonderful satire by some-one who really knows and loves the epic!
@KaregoAt
@KaregoAt 8 жыл бұрын
Actually, with Kullervo it was both wolves and bears that he made into cattle, but otherwise a very good video, I just had to be a bit nitpicky :D Plus it sounds cooler to control both wolves and bears.
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 8 жыл бұрын
+KaregoAt Agreed, obviously. But the bear gets a highlight at the end, so I was holding poetic restraint :) Cheers!
@mahajurkus
@mahajurkus 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Some shrooms back then
@yourFuel
@yourFuel 10 жыл бұрын
I wondered myself all the time if the background is real or just a photo.. Thanks for solving it. :D
@lillisgjertson5804
@lillisgjertson5804 8 жыл бұрын
I have tried reading this and just couldn't get into it-thanks for the translation-it was much funnier than I thought-loved it
@Nowhere788
@Nowhere788 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt know this tale.. but i sure like Kalevala the band.🇨🇦👍
@JenxRodwell
@JenxRodwell 11 жыл бұрын
Man, I really need to go read that damn book already.
@NotOrdinaryInGames
@NotOrdinaryInGames 6 жыл бұрын
This was the best.
@Chokwik
@Chokwik 6 жыл бұрын
loved it, kept it 95%-correct all the way :) and in under 10 minutes... well done i want to mention about the ending: after the 2-week old baby spoke to people against väinämöinen, a man (of a cross) stated the baby is now king of karelia etc., väinämöinen got upset, he walked to sea shore, and sung/ manifested a copper boat (umpipursi), sat on back and sung as he drifted off: "let the time go by, and i'll be needed again, to bring a new sampo, new song, new moon, new day, when there's no moon, sun, no free fun.. from there he sailed to upper (hmm..) earth wombs, to lower skies, there he stayed, and for the finnish people he left the kantele and powerful songs"
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
It's so lovely! And weird. And lovely!
@LotharOfTheHillPeople
@LotharOfTheHillPeople 11 жыл бұрын
Wish this would've been around years ago. Way better than reading the fucking thing.
@GeorgeBuzinkai
@GeorgeBuzinkai 11 жыл бұрын
This should have 1,000,000 views. Bullshit that the world hasn't seen this.
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
I've closed the gap on this comment. Getting closer!
@TheDreamer_Awakens
@TheDreamer_Awakens 5 жыл бұрын
This is fucking brilliant.
@juhahaapala6835
@juhahaapala6835 4 жыл бұрын
Miracles are made
@Kuurakettu
@Kuurakettu 10 жыл бұрын
I`m a Finn, but I have never been that familiar with Kalevala, so this was really amusing to watch/hear.
@stromagedon
@stromagedon 8 жыл бұрын
I was doing research on the kalevala and was dreading reading the whole thing this has saved me so much time
@audreylaurent581
@audreylaurent581 9 жыл бұрын
I actually need to do a work on The Kalevala at school and I did'nt know what it was at all but some kind of poem or epic thing and... omg, if what you say is totally correct then, 1st, wow you're so good man ! what a crazy memory and all !, and 2nd, I'm in the biggest sh*t ever...
@Tapanitseini
@Tapanitseini 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you just spoiled the whole Epic :DDD
@325icsc
@325icsc 9 жыл бұрын
Really like it :), Maybe the next Hollywood Block-buster with some wre-written scenes. T: Fin :) Son of Wäinämöinen
@indimensy
@indimensy 8 жыл бұрын
This is great! Can you also do the Bible? Would be awesome.
@LeifArneStorset
@LeifArneStorset 11 жыл бұрын
Nice performance! Are there that many iambs in the original?
@dorymypacks592
@dorymypacks592 8 жыл бұрын
The English translation of The Kalevala used the odd meter of trochaic tetrameter. Longfellow was inspired by it to write "Hiawatha", still the best known example of the meter. It's singsongy effect seems to give an Epic feeling to what is written in it. You come close to it in your fun re-telling of the tale. Could you re-record it, sticking exactly to the meter? It would be truly awesome.
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 7 жыл бұрын
I like to play with it, but not stick to it, you know? I turn it into mostly 8 syllables, but toy with bending it a lot more than the original did. It is still in the heart of it though! I just bend the rules to suit the Aussie instincts :)
@stevenduarte7966
@stevenduarte7966 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ha!!! I love it!!! LOL
@jencapraru
@jencapraru 11 ай бұрын
ahhh NOW i get it. excellent. much sisu tom hogan and sandwich
@akechijubeimitsuhide
@akechijubeimitsuhide 6 жыл бұрын
I'm happy beause we have a wonderful translation in Hungarian - much easier to do between related languages :D
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
You win. Does the translation work for you?
@akechijubeimitsuhide
@akechijubeimitsuhide 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomHogan We read this at university, and it's really good. Alliterations and everything :D I really wish this got a good adaptation, not some Hollywoodized mess.
@yetanothermotherf
@yetanothermotherf 10 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, at least for us Finns. The hairbrushing puzzled me too, but I found out that Elias Lönnrot, at that time, had misused some hair products even earlier.
@HoyokuTenshou
@HoyokuTenshou 11 жыл бұрын
I feel culturally enriched after listening to this.
@xwiirastusx
@xwiirastusx 11 жыл бұрын
Fucking brilliant!
@MrChillerNo1
@MrChillerNo1 9 жыл бұрын
jop, a true story.
@Raphtyr
@Raphtyr 11 жыл бұрын
I like the jacket.
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
Just came back to KZfaq to let you know I finally got rid of it this week.
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 11 жыл бұрын
bombadil is actually a good match indeed.
@elisekuijpers
@elisekuijpers 11 жыл бұрын
I love this! :D xD
@FaerieGranma
@FaerieGranma 11 жыл бұрын
Wow I use the same type of synopsis to explain Othello. Do you think you can do Gilgamesh next?
@antonsalminen5853
@antonsalminen5853 7 жыл бұрын
We saw this video on our English lesson Yeah that happened
@riittanewtown
@riittanewtown 11 жыл бұрын
in Scott´s honour, I laid my Akubra over my Kalevala, here in Finland. Pretty awesome!
@zap117
@zap117 7 жыл бұрын
wow that was a trip =)
@silfiriel
@silfiriel 9 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. Do Tolkiens works next!
@momentiummonroe1475
@momentiummonroe1475 3 жыл бұрын
It's like our ancestors had the description of a music video written down.
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
I believe ancient civilisations invented MTV around the year 11000BC, so this all checks out.
@approachingetterath9959
@approachingetterath9959 8 жыл бұрын
i'm so confused right now
@enevalainen
@enevalainen 8 жыл бұрын
To be honest, it's far from everyone who has read it or remembers what happens in it. :) It's a bit of a slog, but the language really is quite... epic.
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 11 жыл бұрын
Gilgamesh is a doozy! I've got a few projects at the moment, one is Gilgamesh heavy - not sure if it'll be up on KZfaq though, and it won't be in the same style I don't think. I don't want to be a one trick pony. Not yet, anyway. - SS
@scherryvalentine9673
@scherryvalentine9673 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Hogan So have you done it yet? I really hope so. 🙏🏻
@MonteGould
@MonteGould 7 жыл бұрын
Tried reading it several times, still thoroughly confused ;)
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
If it helps, I still don't get it :)
@jeffreytuura4337
@jeffreytuura4337 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just here to learn the story of my people.
@jeffreytuura4337
@jeffreytuura4337 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Minnesota, United States. my heritage is finnish, so my last name is. I understand it as an uncommon last name in finland as well. Also hoping most Finn's aren't as racist as your handle.
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what the racist handle is! But hooray for Tuura's everywhere!
@Usumgallu
@Usumgallu 10 жыл бұрын
Lacuna parts in Gilgamesh would be interesting to listen. He .... ate ... Enkidu .... ... went there ...
@Raphtyr
@Raphtyr 10 жыл бұрын
Who is this beautiful man-beast??
@petrusinvictus3603
@petrusinvictus3603 2 жыл бұрын
Better story than the Original Kalevala! But I have to stay with the Original. No I dont! So go on have fun. Universal stories for all to share....
@MSTe98
@MSTe98 7 жыл бұрын
Louhi, Louhi, oh mama! We want a Sampo! Ya Ya Ya Ya Ya Ya!
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 11 жыл бұрын
know places where one can do seerious research on the ancient gods, and is there a community in finland?
@kasper88881
@kasper88881 11 жыл бұрын
Where's his pipa and tumput? That is, hat and gloves :)
@jyrkilehto9329
@jyrkilehto9329 9 жыл бұрын
I will respect you if you do it.
@89burni
@89burni 3 жыл бұрын
dont talk to helpful girls... thats what i got outta this. this is great btw
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
Prove it.
@89burni
@89burni 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomHogan prove what?
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
@@89burni haaa sorry I totally misread what you wrote! I didn't mean to come across like an ass :)
@89burni
@89burni 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomHogan hahah no worries hehe
@Losrandir
@Losrandir 11 жыл бұрын
Because they're tough, independent and mean, cutting down men and horses alike, refusing to submit to anyone
@Africanbusker
@Africanbusker 10 жыл бұрын
Can you please put the text here or subtitle the video cause australian is not my mother language and its too speedy for me.Thanks
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 10 жыл бұрын
You should be able to activate the captions in KZfaq - there should be options to have captions in Finnish & English. Otherwise, it's also at the video captioning page at DotsHub here: dotsub.com/view/ba8059a7-0b68-4d0b-99ad-270f2aa08995
@homopetteri7766
@homopetteri7766 6 жыл бұрын
100% true story (HBO plz do a show)
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
It's been three years and they haven't approached me yet. Maybe I gotta pitch it to Netflix.
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 11 жыл бұрын
he used words, that other yankees would understand. few people outside finland know what a kantele is. Harp is the next best thing ..
@Joonavainio
@Joonavainio 10 жыл бұрын
@eightsixzero as I cannot use a direct reply to "old" YT comments. The last canto with the virgin birth from a berry is indeed a christian allegory that has nothing to do with the original myths. Lönnrot just made it up to tie the epic to the conquest of christianity. The "baby Jesus" does NOT kill Väinämöinen. Väinämöinen just gets pissed of these new foolish ways and the brat's insolence and sails away to the West (akin to Avalon or similar myths), promising that when the Finnish people TRULY need him again, he will return. Akin to Arthur. All he leaves behind are his kantele and his songs, so we will always remember the Old Ways despite christian invasion.
@scherryvalentine9673
@scherryvalentine9673 4 жыл бұрын
Joona Vainio Can you prove this? Do you have a link to the original version that you say differs from this one? Thanks.
@williamfoschi7265
@williamfoschi7265 10 жыл бұрын
watching this in half speed makes it sound more like an incredible drunken slur.
@jannemarie
@jannemarie 10 жыл бұрын
Ahhh... Finland.
@lennu999
@lennu999 11 жыл бұрын
I want this to be translated in Finnish.
@James-nv9fi
@James-nv9fi 11 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it's a pretty nice hairbrush.
@juhahaapala6835
@juhahaapala6835 4 жыл бұрын
i am me
@UninenKuu
@UninenKuu 11 жыл бұрын
And Märkähattu is like ''Fuck Yeaah!''
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
I also am like that sometimes.
@Nateh918
@Nateh918 10 жыл бұрын
well
@danielamaya5803
@danielamaya5803 3 жыл бұрын
I had to watch this at 0.75x speed...
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still tired from performing it the first time :)
@kainptz
@kainptz 5 жыл бұрын
not only Finland it is karelian-finish culture most of runs was collect in russian karelia
@gdogvibes1
@gdogvibes1 11 жыл бұрын
Can someone sum this up?
@Chokwik
@Chokwik 6 жыл бұрын
lol! i'm not sure is it possible to sum it up better., it's like 300 pages of poems.. the big stories are effectively shortened in this video.. :D but hey i'll try if you want to read individual stories, you can start with these: creation of world, story of "miss" air (ilmatar) and water's mother (veen emonen), birth of väinämöinen, his journey from water to land.., lands were empty and pellervoinen is asked to come seed trees, great oak grows from ashes, it grow too enormous and a guy in copper outfit comes and cut it down.. then: meeting/collision of väinämöinen and joukahainen.. väinämöinen ends up in tuonela (underworld maybe).. ilmarinen forges a sampo (sampo create wealth/ salt /flour /?) for the hostess of pohjola, because väinämöinen promised her for helping him out earlier and ilmarinen is granted to marry one of pohjola's hostess' daughters.. from there on, there's tales about all 3, väinämöinen, lemminkäinen and ilmarinen going to pohjola to get a wife, 2 of them have to do near-impossible jobs for the hostess of pohjola, in which lemminkäinen fails, but ilmarinen successes. väinämöinen can't get a wife from pohjola because he's too old to compete with younger ilmarinen.. lemminkäinen got shot during his last task because of his prior arrogance/pride of not even insulting a "wet hat" shepherd when he verbally attacked every other one in illmarinen's wedding.. anyway ilmarinen got a bride, lemminkäinen tried to mess up the wedding, and ends up in years of war with pohjola.. time go and somehow ilmarinen lost the bride(?), he forged a substitute-wifey from gold and silver and finds her too cold to sleep next to and then goes to pohjola to get the hostess' second daughter, and he ends up stealing the maiden, and on the way home the daughter insults ilmarinen, after which he turned the woman to a seagull.. all this leads to ilmarinen going to väinämöinen telling how they're living fat in pohjola with the sampo... they decide to get their 3-headed party of väinämöinen, lemminkäinen and ilmarinen and go to pohjola and rob the sampo to bring it to kalevala.. big magics and battling on land sea and air ends up breaking the sampo while on sea, and luckily waves brought some crumbs to shores of kalevala to enrich the lands. hostess is angry afterwards and sends multiple deceases across world as well as captures the sun, the moon and all the fires from houses of kalevala.. then a fire spark (or a corpuscle) falls from sky to water, gets swallowed by a fish (the fish get eaten by another, and it gets eaten by another), väinämöinen and ilmarinen goes to catch the sparkle from the fish with a huge fishnet and eventually do it.. as the fishes get opened, the sparkle jumps out and burns lands out of control, until väinämäinen catches the fire corpuscle and brings fire back to houses.. they do healing from fire wounds, and after that ilmarinen starts forging a sun and a moon, which did not work as they thought it would.. väinämöinen goes head-chopping to pohjola to get the sun and moon back, but sun and moon are locked inside rock /mountain, behind many locks... väinämöinen goes back to kalevala and asks ilmarinen for metal weaponry with which to go force open the mountain ../ other story says that ilmarinen just starts forging shackles for hostess' neck., either way, after hostess hears this clanging in ilmarinen's smithery, she fears for her own life and lets the sun and the moon out to their original places.. so most of kalevala are going around these 4 characters, väinämöinen, lemminkäinen, ilmarinen and the hostess of pohjola, louhi. besides their story kalevala got story of kullervo, in my opinion separate from other kalevala, as well as story of marjatta, aka birth of jesus.. the story of joukahainen is kinda bit mystery to me but still very interesting.. and feels essential... now, if you did read my little sum-up, you can try to figure the story on deeper level.. if these 4 characters were metaphors, like pekka ervast suggested.. väinämöinen as will power, ilmarinen as thought power, lemminkäinen as feeling power, pohjola as the subconscious mind (or night conscious), and kalevala as conscious mind (day conscious).., you'll get a whole new story..
@petrusinvictus3603
@petrusinvictus3603 4 жыл бұрын
Its all greek and Roman, with nordid twist...
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
Well it's all greek to me.
@asadraza4096
@asadraza4096 8 жыл бұрын
I can't understand it.
@MonteGould
@MonteGould 7 жыл бұрын
no one can...
@Maedelrosen
@Maedelrosen 6 жыл бұрын
no. mention. of. osmotar...oluen seppä.
@FlashBranson27
@FlashBranson27 4 жыл бұрын
...I think something was wrong with the author who wrote this poem 0_o
@TomHogan
@TomHogan 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it.
@FlashBranson27
@FlashBranson27 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomHogan I'm honored by your reply
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