The Kill Them Where You Find Them Verse Explained

The Kill Them Where You Find Them Verse Explained - Nouman Ali Khan

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Nouman Ali Khan - Official - Bayyinah

10 жыл бұрын

Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan talks about the poor translation "Kill Them Where You Find Them" and what that ayah means.
Thank you Dr. Hisham for facilitating this recording.
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@basmapandor3992 10 жыл бұрын

This is the beauty of seeking knowledge! Seek and you shall find, ignorance is not a bliss, it's IBLEES

@mr.a1285 4 жыл бұрын

IBLEES = SAITAN

@sunilchoudhury8957 3 жыл бұрын

Want knowledge? Read and scrutinise the quran for yourself. This guy is lying about the context.

@hisamyouhana2650 3 жыл бұрын

@@sunilchoudhury8957 really?? I have read it by my self the whole chapter is what he is saying in the video

@sunilchoudhury8957 3 жыл бұрын

@@hisamyouhana2650 then you're not reading the entire context into the text. I've read it a number of times. I last read surah 9 in it's entirety last week. The context provided in the quran itself implies a lack of provocation on behalf of the pagans. It also stipulates no warnings, nore does it imply them... once the treaty months are fulfilled, the order is clear- kill them wherever you find them, make their lives hard, ambush them, and besiege them. Beseige them. I can't emphasise that part enough. This is about establishing a treaty that permits followers of Mohammed to surround the pagans in their own land without them knowing that they will be slaughtered or forced to pay charity to Islamic causes. If they are willing to submit to Islamic rule on their own land, only then may they seek refuge under Islamic protection. This verse was also written much later than the famed "no compulsion in religion" verse... so by doctrinal abrogation, it over rules the verse. I'm sorry to say it, because I know how uncomfortable reading something that so boldly challenges your faith can make you feel, but I urge you to read the surah again.

@sunilchoudhury8957 3 жыл бұрын

@@hisamyouhana2650 please don't take this as an attack on you. I don't believe you share in common with your heart the words I criticise here... you're most likely as lovely as most Muslims I know.... but the words I criticise are indeed what the quran teaches.

@Mkay1808 9 жыл бұрын

Nouman Ali, I'm very pleased with your explanation about this verse, as put in the right context. We can also see, if any verse taken out of context can be detrimental to Al Quran. Thanks

@YousifAtique 10 жыл бұрын

Question answered in the BEST way possible. Very beautifully taken care of. These are the kind of questions that are TOUGH to answer when being among non-muslims... this SPECIFIC ayah has been VERY WRONGLY TAKEN by current media and non-muslims and CONTEXT is what needs to be understood. Jazakallah khair Br. Nouman Khan. May Allah(Swt) bless you and help us be like you in out communities and families. Wa Salam u Alaikum

@JW-ec1to 4 жыл бұрын

@Jeffrey Pinsoy No actually. They are recognised as either 1 of 2 in modern day Saudi Arabia; 1. They wish to work there, 2. They wish to live there. (Peacefully) Those verses is with regards to war which the Muslims hadn't started initially back then, which show us the historical context. If there is war than such measures must be taken is the message of the verses. Not a universal declaration of war now.

@aarfeenanees9147 3 жыл бұрын

@Addi Abebba Humans choose not to be intelligent and take the verses out of context.

@aarfeenanees9147 3 жыл бұрын

@Addi Abebba God need you to put in effort. God could've made man without providing him free will and man would've never sinned. But God choose to give us free will so that we can overcome the bad temptations and willingly abide by God's rules. Similarly, you need to put in a little effort to gain knowledge of Islam. People these days don't want to learn about Islam. They have a pre conceived notion that 'religion is a myth' 'Islam is evil' etc and interpret text that way. The verse he was talking is Surah 9 At tawbah and verse 5. Even if a low IQ person would've read the entire surah from start, or from verse 4 to 7 he would've got the context. But people are quick to jump and attack Islam. They'd watch a guy on youtube explaining them Quran rather than sitting their ass down and reading the English translation.

@chihabahmed5207 4 жыл бұрын

Context Very true If you see a man hitting a woman in a video clip you would think, the man is a woman beater right? But if they show the whole clip which shows that the woman started it and she grabbed a knife and she wanted to kill that man but he managed to punsh her. It's a silly example but you can see clearly you can Photoshop even the Qur'an by taking it out of context

@fitoor66-vy7cm 10 ай бұрын

May Allah bless you brother Nouman and guide us all to the straight path. Ameen

@MantashaSultanECBOA 3 жыл бұрын

may allah bless you and ur family

@teachUS87 10 жыл бұрын

"Im gna get u" HAHAHA! Brother Nouman please come to London, and when u do can u please share dates on this channel so i knw..

@Dialahh 10 жыл бұрын

So proud of my beautiful deen. Everything is clear and has an answer.

@thejai28 4 жыл бұрын

Can you share the link to the whole Vid? i remember this had a part where the good Ustadz even explained the concept of "Surahs" and how they lose some of their meaning when translated into "Chapters" in English

@saminyasaranabil1238 3 жыл бұрын

This man is a gem❤️

@spaceghost8995 2 жыл бұрын

He is a liar.

@SMW484 2 жыл бұрын

@@spaceghost8995 No one asked for your opinion you should leave

@Crazy88277 10 ай бұрын

He white washes and deceives. Please see the Apostate Prophet video on this or Al fadi even. Mohammed often insulted ppl from his own tribe for not recognizing him as a prophet and for idol worshipping.

@mabdullah27 10 жыл бұрын

God bless you Noman

@zabaletta1 10 жыл бұрын

so beautiful. wish i was there

@MsPrincessTx 10 жыл бұрын

Yes pleassee come to london insh'Allah

@Pondering-Queen 10 жыл бұрын

Salaam we need the full lecture please!

@hisamyouhana2650 3 жыл бұрын

3:58 to 4:50 here is the answer and Background history of the context and the verse thank me later

@MsTuba42 10 жыл бұрын

I want to see it all. Please upload the complete talk. JZK

@jeremynx 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for explanation

@IHeartPeace07 10 жыл бұрын

Jazak allah!!

@gihad697 Жыл бұрын

that was beautiful

@AhamedKabeer-wn1jb 3 жыл бұрын

Jazakallah..

@salmanmemon1000 10 жыл бұрын

Masha Allah.I am so jealous of u Ustadh Nouman!!! May Allah give barakah in your efforts.

@edgespear101 10 жыл бұрын

Upload it all please.

@abz0909 10 жыл бұрын

Informative :)

@ladymim89 3 жыл бұрын

what was the verse and surah cited by Ustadh about people manipulating the verse of the Quran?

@elijaha6564 10 жыл бұрын

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah! Br. Nouman recites an ayah at about 9:05 and I wanted to know which surah this ayah is form. Thank you and JazakumAllah khayran in advanced.

@faisalkamal9299 5 жыл бұрын

It's surah tauba

@haamidsemiyan5111 2 жыл бұрын

It is surah baqarah 26

@Neophantom00 10 жыл бұрын

Surat Al-Baqarah 2:26

@bilalanwarb3 10 жыл бұрын

MashAllah beautiful loll

@MeedyOfficial 10 жыл бұрын

jazakallah

@kainatfatima8740 9 жыл бұрын

Does anybody know the reference for the ayah he used at the end about guiding and misguiding. I know that it is mentioned several times in the Quran but I need that specific one

@nuux1560 5 жыл бұрын

Quran (2:26)

@amalhussein8426 4 жыл бұрын

Kainat Fatima 9:5

@JW-ec1to 4 жыл бұрын

2:26

@mohammedaslam2756 4 жыл бұрын

Subhanallah

@ahmedw5 10 жыл бұрын

Where is the full lecture?

@aljubaiar7733 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nb1orapjxp7WdIE.html&ab_channel=IslamCafe

@xcaliber6027 3 жыл бұрын

Quran [2: 26]) Behold! Allah is not ashamed to propound the parable of a gnat, or even of something more lowly.28 On hearing these parables the believers know that it is the truth from their Lord, while those bent on denying the Truth say: “What does Allah mean by these parables?” Thus He causes many to go astray just as He directs many to the Right Way.29 And He thereby causes to go astray only the transgressors,30

@friendsofallah2136 3 жыл бұрын

Still everyone is miss understood this verse 😔

@sunilchoudhury8957 3 жыл бұрын

The verse is crystal clear. It demands unprovoked murder. The only misinterpretations that exist are ones where people add context that isn't there.

@subhanbaig4461 3 жыл бұрын

@@sunilchoudhury8957 The context is needed to understand why whats said is said, also if it demands unprovoked murder why don't Muslims carry out this murder and don't refer to terrorists groups as first of they are such a small percentage of the population and second of all they also do not use this context.

@sunilchoudhury8957 3 жыл бұрын

@@subhanbaig4461 also, the law of theological abrogation means that any earlier verses are abrogated by later written verses if there is any apparent contradiction, and the verses Mohammed was given by Gibriel before he died were the violent ones In context, the "you have your religion, i have mine" attitude was preached when Islam was a minority in Arabia. When the numbers were big enough, and islam had greater authority in the region- the violent verses came to be. And as the violent verses were written last, they forever hold more authority than the peaceful verses. I know what I'm saying isn't easy to swallow... but this is the historical context. So please, be honest with me as I have been unapologetically honest with you. What happened in the 300 years before the Crusades? God bless

@sunilchoudhury8957 3 жыл бұрын

@@subhanbaig4461 wow my first comment responding to you got deleted. I wish it didn't, I spent time crafting my message carefully so you'd understand my criticism isn't of muslim people but is of the religion, its scriptures, and the history of it. I spoke with regards to the context in the tafsirs not being consistent with the context that both history and many hadiths provide, and that most Muslims understandably trust the tafsirs... but sadly that means they're trusting a false history and false context. So long as the tafsiral context isn't in the quran itself, there will always be people like ISIS who take the violent verses at face value. They may be an absolute minority in the west, but this isn't the case through middle eastern and African countries (and to a far less dramatic extent, east and south east Asia) I hope you understand that I know this won't be embraced with open arms, but I'm saying it with love in my heart for your eternal souls. I pray that this inspires some to look outside of the mainstream Muslim sources to see for themselves what the truth actually is. The example Mohammed left in history was that of a political tyrant who exploited religion for his own gain (i know how hard this is to read, and im sorry... but I must be honest). The tafsirs record a very different context... but the hadiths when aggregated are actually closer to the truth. The question I want to ask you is this... What happened in the 300 years leading up to the Crusades? (i condem the crusades, but the question is important, and researching the answer may lead you to understand my point better)

@crausmasala8572 3 жыл бұрын

The verse is clear even the hadith proves that because it is explaining the verse and there is no place saying if provoked

@shafi.j 2 жыл бұрын

We cannot do anything if they taken it mistakenly . Some verses is not valid for today it is to those who were present at that time . For faith in allah one verse is enough Because Allah who guide all .

@khfir6209 3 жыл бұрын

Wonder watching this video after 7 years.

@diyorbeksadullaev 2 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for sharing! I couldn't help myself but say this: the background music is too loud to be a background music. Maybe it is just me and I apologize for that. However it is very distracting. :/

@ivanos_95 8 ай бұрын

Keep in mind that the Quran doesn't specify anything in case of those disbelievers who should be killed right away, except that the killing should be avoided near the Masjid, so the order to search and kill is directed to every Muslim, and applies to any disbeliever, who don't want to convert right away, while the exile is a different case, which applies only to those disbelievers who chased you out, instead of killing you, so it's only an act of gratitude.

@hallohallo72 3 жыл бұрын

So did he just say that islamic gods wraft also includes killing through humans?

@calebwalker7619 Жыл бұрын

Look at it this way for the non muslims I personally am not religious but spiritual however Let's say someone barges into your house takes all of your stuff and is threatening to kill you so you leave your own house. A couple weeks later you go back kill the people who evicted because they have weapons and your threatened and in danger but their in your house you pay the bills in. Its the same here muslims were kicked out of their land and were being threatened and persecuted so they went back to their land gave the people 4 months( which is awfully generous someone kicked me out of my house I woulda killed em without question) to leave and don't come back or join them otherwise they would use lethal force. Makes perfect sense to me thank you for the explanation truly wonderful 😊💯

@goddessr3065 5 жыл бұрын

Quoran is such a beautiful book you can interpret it thousands different ways, you can translate as you please. I love this, I am going to be a Muslim, such a freedom, never mind Allah, Muhumad is a man I like, so mercifully, and forgiving, but if I desplease him this what what happened to me sura 111,I wonder who is more important Allah or Muhammad?

@mm-qu3ht 4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the disbelievers interprete in such ugly according to their own ugly imagination. Sad.

@crausmasala8572 3 жыл бұрын

No this is crystal clear the Quran is crystal clear and it is a holy book you have to kill them

@sahirebrahim6412 3 жыл бұрын

No you cannot just interpret any way u feel. It is the non Muslims who have been interpreting in a thousand different ways. There's only one Arabic Quran and there are different translations from different scholars who would use different describing words but that's it. One scholar might translate "beautiful" and another might use the word "magnificent" but the meaning is always remains same. This verse of "kill them where you find them" from the Holy Quran is from a specific time and from a specific battle and even though all the Islamophobes know this, they Will not stop using it because it has become a somewhat trump card.

@muhiyadin4377 2 жыл бұрын

@goddess r you cant interpret the quran in different ways thats what deviants like yasir qadhi and this nouman teach you muslim are not to interpret the quran by their own thinking but we learn the prophets seerah so we can learn why some verses and chapters were sent down and we only interpret the way the prophet peace be upon him interpret it in authentic hadith or how the salaf interpret it

@jhalcricket2376 Жыл бұрын

Lol bro our interpretations are only limited to earliest generation of sahabas (the companions of Prophet pbuh)if anyone comes with anything new has always been rejected by Muslim world u have no idea

@faed26 4 ай бұрын

Should the word "kill" be taken into context of the entire spirit of the quran which is to do good, thus "kill" does not mean literally killing people but to "change" the bad to good - also surah 109 applies.

@Lubnamanzu 10 жыл бұрын

Bayyinah Institute, Brother Nouman talked about out of context and you post such a bautiful piece OUT OF CONTEXT. It would be better if you could give little bit of description about where did the lecture took place, obviously it is not in a masjid or dawah centre as we saw non-Muslim men and women. Please provide us the full lecture and a little bit of background of the lecture. Jazak Allah khairan

@sinisterp3339 4 жыл бұрын

Why jizya is required on non-Muslims? Also jizya should be imposed on Muslims in foreign lands? How a threatening verse made it's way to such a lovely sacred book? Did God really put those verses?

@rationalpuppet8163 3 жыл бұрын

Jizya is just a tax, Muslims pay Zakat. Non Muslims pay jizya

@lupus4687 3 жыл бұрын

The threatening verse was just a solution to that specific incident. Quran is not just a book of bed and roses. Its a continuous revelation sent in those historical events. It’s a compilation of everything. A perfect book. It not a nice little bed time story book.

@amerzeb14 10 жыл бұрын

Funny Subhanallah!!

@gabileyonlinetv 10 жыл бұрын

/watch?v=IwyTt3nc5NU this is the complete talk

@Hmonks 8 ай бұрын

Muslims peaceful religion their action speak exclusively on this verse

@avinashmuraleedhar Жыл бұрын

Ok has it been specifically pointed out this "killing" is context depended?no they are just playing every one with it.this is a religion build upon blood of non believers

@mahfoozalamiiita Жыл бұрын

Islamophobes, you will never change.

@sazzatalikhan5371 Жыл бұрын

Go get some brain first 🥴

@pickletime8678 7 ай бұрын

the context still don’t sounds like it’s about peace you come back to the land your were expelled from somehow win a war “peacefully” because of your army size. You give the people an ultimatum but call it a “peace treaty” and kill them when after 4 months🤦🏽‍♂️ idk what would mlk do if he had to lead Islam? how many wars would he be in?

@KingVazay 4 жыл бұрын

So that means if some1 doesnt want to accept the religion he needs to move away or he gets killed. And what if theres no mo ways to go somewhere. Wtf

@KingVazay 4 жыл бұрын

Aya Mohamed yeah im muslim but imagine someone forces u to be a christian and if u dont want to be one u have to leave ur home or u get killed

@muhammad.zeeshanuddin1935 4 жыл бұрын

@@KingVazay No, you have misunderstood. These terms only applied to the worst chief of the enemies of the muslims back then when makkah was taken. They were bloodthirsty. Remember, they were still a threat to the muslims and having them around was risky. That's why in order to take away this risk of a threat, those chief polytheist were asked to accept Islam or leave. If they did not leave, they would be considered a threat because remember, these were the chiefs of the polytheists who wanted to outright slaughter the muslims, had they stayed in makkah as non muslims, they could have made a plot to kill the prophet (SAW) or some of the muslims, understand now. You see, it's important to understand the context (the situation of the time). It's easy to criticize Islam and hard to defend as a large portion of the muslims are uneducated or don't even have access to the internet. Remember, the Quran mentions the "atom". Back then, nobody knew what an atom was, remember all the signs and prophecies of Muhammad (SAW) that came true. Don't leave or doubt Islam now.

@KingVazay 4 жыл бұрын

Muhammad.zeeshan Uddin i dont doubt or leave islam i just have many questions and i wonder why things like war, raped women and children and all that happen. You know i want to understand and i search and pray for answers but i dont know who to trust and what to do

@muhammad.zeeshanuddin1935 4 жыл бұрын

@@KingVazay Ask me questions, I will answer them in the best way possible if not, I will lead you to someone who might be able to answer your question, someone who is more knowledgeable then me. Ramadan Kareem.

@KingVazay 4 жыл бұрын

Muhammad.zeeshan Uddin thank you very much man. Do you maybe have twitter so i can dm you? I dont want to ask all that under this video 😂 have agreat day my bro

@blasianmoistcr1tikal725 8 жыл бұрын

Please help me clarify on these quotes from hadith Bukhari, which is very reliable documented hadith. I am not here to slander and I come in peace. Happy Eid to you all Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " Bukhari (83:37) - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate." Bukhari (84:57) - [In the words of] "Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'" Bukhari (89:271) - A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to "the verdict of Allah and his apostle."

@ridaiftikhar5069 5 жыл бұрын

so it's ok to kill apostates?

@JW-ec1to 4 жыл бұрын

Bible believes in the same idea btw.

@Kai-jz3in 3 жыл бұрын

@Abdinassir Abdi sorry bro i didn't know

@Kai-jz3in 3 жыл бұрын

@Abdinassir Abdi so pls can u explain the reasons?

@Kai-jz3in 3 жыл бұрын

@Abdinassir Abdi yes bro i have read in some hadiths that u kill the apostates only if they have joined the enemy army and not anyone else...... Also in quran it is written that there should be no compulsion on religion

@iceblock1980 10 жыл бұрын

LOL his good

@edwardkumarkenway1875 4 жыл бұрын

3:06 So you are saying The Persians should fight the Muslims because before Islam took over Zoroastrians used to live there?

@alberuni65 3 жыл бұрын

Who are the Persians and where they live now!

@iamdanyboy1 2 жыл бұрын

@@alberuni65 he means people like Ratan Tata and their ancestors who are Zoroastrians that fled Persia to India back when Islam came to Persia.

@Aelioris Жыл бұрын

I know it’s not the context but shouldn’t show non mahrams and have a mixed gathering

@sazzatalikhan5371 Жыл бұрын

I think they are non Muslim learning about Qur'an and obviously it's logical they are not gonna believe in islam and follow the rules of islam until they are satisfied with the answer and ready to accept islam and nouman ali is just doing his job And many scholars say it's permissible for married man to give dawah to non Muslim women i might be wrong tho Allah knows the best 🙂

@walidmariam1997 10 жыл бұрын

/watch?v=lwyTt3nc5NU

@thejai28 4 жыл бұрын

found it! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f92ph9dk08mZfok.html

@nikshaymeghwal4396 3 жыл бұрын

This is written in kuran - Dont make friendship with Christian and jewish

@wawariro2247 10 ай бұрын

no you can have christian friends the translation of (wali) as friends is wrong the correct translation is ally

@sunilchoudhury8957 3 жыл бұрын

The verse isn't about dealing with anyone invading during times of war. You'd only believe that if you hadn't read the verse. There is clear context provided. Surah 9:1 immunity from God is provided to pagans if a mutual treaty were struck. 9:2 go for 4 months through the land... but don't frustrate God with falsehoods, for God will shame those who reject him. 9:3 an announcement of God and of Mohammed will dissolve the responsibilities of the treaty. It's best for you to repent. Turning away can't frustrate God. Proclaiming a horrible penalty for those who reject the faith. 9:4 treaties with the pagans are not dissolved, and any alliance you have kept you must fulfil until the time of the treaty is served. 9:5 Then when the months of the treaty are over "fight and kill the pagans where you find them. Seize and stir up strife for them. Besiege them. Lie waiting in ambush wherever you may in every stratagem of war. If they repent and establish regular prayers, and practice regular charity" then leave them be. 9:6 if they don't fight back, capture them and give them dawah. The verse (9:5) is about surprising those who you were just in a TREATY with with violence once the treaty has expired. It's about forced conversion, and is only eased once someone is willing to either convert, or is forced into slavery. The pagan isn't provoking anything. The clear order is to murder them wherever you find them. The clear order is to wait in every ambush... nothing in the context of the entire contextual base of verses applicable to the verse in question even remotely implies that these people are given time to leave an area in accordance with a treaty, nore does it imply anything to do with the pagans being insurgents. You don't live peacefully with insurgents before giving them the ultimatum "get out, convert, or die". To believe as such you must be a fool. You don't Besiege insurgents - insurgents besiege those they're invading. This is about murder in cold blood- unexpected murder so that those of your faith have the element of surprise in their favour. Talking about taking things out of context. This isn't a time of war right now, taqiyya isn't applicable when you're not making claims like this to defend your faith against people threatening your life or your religion, so why lie?

@ibrahimmonaf345 3 жыл бұрын

Tafseer........

@muhiyadin4377 2 жыл бұрын

If you actually learned why this surah was sent down you would realise this is talking those who broke their treaties with Muhammad peace be upon him and if you read verse 13 of surah 9 you will clearly see that what i am saying is true. I strongly advise you to please stop listening to nouman ali khan

@spaceghost8995 2 жыл бұрын

He HAS to lie. He isn't going to stand up there and tell you to kill people.

@JmGmail 8 ай бұрын

He has to lie to whites trying to u derstand Islam may be to convert so there is an element of surprise whe. They are attacked.