hybe is a mess right now, to much drama, if they don't prove the haters wrong at the next comeback and give the fans something to brag about (...look they have the talent to sing...and aren't just pretty...),then it could be the end

Nothing wrong with lesserfim perform at Coachella. K-pop fans are so disconnected from the rest of the music world in general. K-pop has the most overproduced, commercialized, choreographed to a tee performances in the world. Which in itself can often be very impressive and obviously good to watch. But most other music shows in the world are far more about the energy and passion behind the music. Of course, you still try to look and sound great, but it's almost secondary to the actual show itself. Another thing I've noticed is K-pop fans tend to be really bad at identifying when groups are lip-syncing and actually singing live. I see some people criticizing groups for singing slightly worse live and then in the next breath, praising a performance that was clearly lip-synced. If people were more aware of when groups were actually singing live they'd have more realistic expectations, especially for prolonged shows as opposed to one-song performances.

Im sorry but it doesnt matter if the group will have super talented well renowned vocal coach because if the producers and its staff dont stop over doing it with auto tune,voice enhancing techs,voice effects techs live performance with out backtrack will never ever be sound the same.Example if you listen to Le Sserafim unforgiven,fearless,antifragile and compare it it to their new songs like Easy,smart,perfect night you can tell the difference and how auto tune,voice enhancing techs are greatly used in their comeback album which is the real reason of LeSserafim backlash and problems....!

HYBE is the McDonald's of Kpop

I mean I am still gonna support le sserafim. I acknowledge their live vocals arent great and have no interest in paying to see them dance with a backtrack. I think they're entertaining, i like their songs and mv's and their other content such as fearless kura and star diary, i think they are fun content. I can understand the criticism but some of the hate is crazy. I also agree HYBE has made a lot of bad choices managing them and preparing them. Hope all parties can get a positive outcome but HYBE seems like its in choppy waters at the moment.

Do they not get any vocal training? Just dancing?

i give a s of live performance :D i hear there VM over and over every week

My problem is that every other fandom is acting like their group would have sounded so much better in that situation. I mean sure, they don't really dance and kind of more pose dance so they are at an advantage there. But every single group has a couple bright spots and a couple weak spots. It's the reality that denial won't mask. The fact that other companies would never ever let their raw vocals be heard with minimal backing track in a performance is where LE SSERAFIM was let down. Put Wonyoung, Karina, Soyeon, Yeji and Chaewon on a stage to dance and sing the same track. I'm picking Chaewon. Maybe LE SSERAFIM's problem was not labeling three of them rappers or dancers. Every group is autotune and pitch corrected to death so they all sound fine in their produced tracks. nMIXX and Mamamoo are the only solid top to bottom active ggs. And I think Babymonster will fall into this category. BlackPink and Twice certainly aren't even good singers as a whole.

HYBE is a GREEDY company and it is showing its true colors for everyone to see!!!

Kpop was reduced to idol who doesnt sing. Such a disgrace to the legendary idols who paved the way for kpop to be known as true artist.

I think their new coachella song sounded better vocally because it was a "shouty" song, and you can't really Not support a shout, it forces you to engage your core a bit. You MUST use your chest voice to do it, which is a placement Hybe seems terrified of. They're obsessed with that super-airy light sound that everyone is employing (which is a preference to some, I get it) but that's hard to support outside of the studio or being still. It's hard to keep that stable even WALKING, much less dancing. Chest voice is a different story, and it highlights a singers unique vocal color instead of making members sound very similar. I'm really hoping the HotnFun song made their producers and coaches realize how much more capable they are of maintaining pitch with that placement, and that strong vocals are actually very missed by the fans! I don't want to beat a dead horse, but it needs to be fix and it's more about Hybe's methods than the girls' talent and potential.