Most of the extra weight for the Vickers came from the water Stroud & tank with extra water as well as much heavier more accurate tripod of 18IB Why the Vickers was a more permanent emplaced machine gun but had far better evaporative cooling system though not as Iconic looking as the Lewis, it was reliable though built like a brick. Vickers canvas belt feed took a lot more ammunition then the Lewis magazine. 98 compared to the minimum standard 250 fabric belt in the standard munition box. Mind the Vickers machine gun was made in 1896 as opposed to the Lewis in 1913 making it far more impressive personally when you consider the age.

The British didn't adopt the Lewis gun in the manner you describe. They used the Lewis as Light role for frog hoping & the Vickers remained though later replaced by the 1919 browning for the medium emplacement role. Too compare the 2 is a bit of ill oversight as they may both be machine guns but outside of that where for completely different roles.

@@arnijulian6241 Yes that's right. I do appreciate you adding this for some clarification.

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Your welcome, good video overall though I can tell you are likely a yank. They Tend to know little of British doctrine & presume it to be the same. We do adopt a fair few customs from the states if they prove beneficial along with the globe concerning doctrine. Look at how much Nepal has influenced our doctrine for such a obscure land locked relatively isolated nation for perspective. Britain tend to take the new but keep the old as a rule of thumb, we don't like to be caught out if we can help it!

@@arnijulian6241 I was born in Somerset but raised mostly in Canada. Moved back to England as a teenager and did three years in the Territorials while laying brick in Bristol. My Canadian accent is thick though. I hope to make future videos a bit more detailed so I can expand on the things you mentioned. Sometimes it's just a time and resources issue for me.

Was he Chaplin or Stan & Oliver? Ha-ha!

@@anderstopansson neither, got to be Buster Keaton!

@@bobdiluted6243 k. Ha-ha!

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@@JnnyUtah35 and made many people feel better....

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There were 250,000 Chauchats manufactured during WWI making it *by far* the most mass produced automatic weapon of the war. It wasn't a question of "replaced" as much as *equipped* because light machine guns were virtually non-existent in the US Army at that point. Among other things. Since the US industry was unprepared for the war there was no time to manufacture arms for the troops being shipped over. The solution? The U.S troops used French artillery pieces (the famous 75mm), tanks (Patton commanded a battalion of Renault FT-17's), planes (Nieuports and Spads) and light machine guns. Again we're not talking Lewis vs Chauchat here we're talking Springfield bolt-action vs Chauchat here, and in some cases even the Springfield was in short supply. Some doughboys arriving in France had to use British Lee-Enfields. Btw, the lack of war equipment was the reason Roosevelt geared up the industry for war in 1940 already knowing a war was coming... Wilson did *not* have the same foresight in 1917. But Roosevelt was certain not to repeat Wilson's mistake. It bears noting that even with Roosevelt's efforts M1 Garands and other things were in short supply when the US entered WWII in 1941. No replacing here, only *equipping* . The Chauchat may not have been the best light machine gun (though it was 10 pounds lighter than the Lewis and *could* be fired from the hip) in the war BUT what the American troops received was the M1918 version *hastily rechambered to take the .30-06 Springfield round used by the Americans rather than the 8x50mm Lebel the weapon had been designed to fire. The M1918 version was indeed prone to getting jammed and it was *this version* which earned the weapon a false reputation *which wasn't the case neither with French machine gunners nor American equivalents carrying the CSRG-1915 version.* Most American doughboys got rid of the M1918 and replaced it with the French CSRG-1915 version which fired lebel rounds. Since plenty of them were around and the French gladly traded them this wasn't an issue. Here's an article from Americanrifleman which dispels many of the myths surrounding this weapon - above all putting it in a *contemporary light* from a time when automatic weapons were still a novelty mostly used for stationary positions and defensive warfare. www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-chauchat-light-machine-gun-not-really-one-of-the-worst-guns-ever/ Here are two interesting stories in which American soldiers made really good use of it in combat: Pvt. Frank J. Bart C Company, 9th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division Pvt. Bart, being on duty as a company runner, when the advance was held up by machine-gun fire, voluntarily picked up an automatic rifle, ran out ahead of the line, and silenced a hostile machine-gun nest, killing the German gunners. The advance then continued, and when it was again hindered shortly afterward by another machine-gun nest, this courageous soldier repeated his bold exploit by putting the second machine gun out of action. Pvt. Thomas C. Neibaur M Company, 167th Infantry Regiment, 42nd Infantry Division On the afternoon of 16 October 1918, when the Cote-de-Chatillion had just been gained after bitter fighting and the summit of that strong bulwark in the Kriemhilde Stellung was being organized, Pvt. Neibaur was sent out on patrol with his automatic rifle squad to enfilade enemy machine-gun nests. As he gained the ridge, he set up his automatic rifle and was directly thereafter wounded in both legs by fire from a hostile machine gun on his flank. The advance wave of the enemy troops, counterattacking, had about gained the ridge, and although practically cut off and surrounded, the remainder of his detachment being killed or wounded, this gallant soldier kept his automatic rifle in operation to such effect that by his own efforts and by fire from the skirmish line of his company, at least 100 yards in his rear, the attack was checked. The enemy wave being halted and lying prone, four of the enemy attacked Pvt. Neibaur at close quarters. These he killed. He then moved alone among the enemy lying on the ground about him, in the midst of the fire from his own lines, and by coolness and gallantry captured 11 prisoners at the point of his pistol and, although painfully wounded, brought them back to our lines. The counterattack in full force was arrested to a large extent by the single efforts of this soldier, whose heroic exploits took place against the skyline in full view of his entire battalion. In fact, three U.S. Army soldiers earned the Medal of Honor during the Meuse-Argonne Offensive using the Chauchat-Pvt. Frank J. Bart from C Company, 9th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division, Pvt. Thomas C. Neibaur from M Company, 167th Infantry Regiment, 42nd Infantry Division, and Pvt. Nels T. Wold from I Company, 138th Infantry Regiment, 35th Infantry Division. Last of all. What killed a large number of American troops in France in the early months of their entry was General Pershing's insistence of beating the Germans the same way he had "hunted Pancho Villa" in Mexico. Apparently the manual he used was barely changed from the Civil War. Pershing also wanted a "quick victory" and was certain he could break the German lines when the allies had failed to do so for almost four years by this point. As for the Browning Automatic Rifle. Pershing held back that one as well with the fear any captured example might be copied by the Germans. He planned on equipping them for the planned 1919 offensive. ...

turns out a gun doesn't work properly when you load it with 30.06 when it's built for 8mm lebel

@@Sweatykeyboard one of the main reasons why the Chauchat has a bad reputation and a classic example of improper recalibration

Of fucking course the dickhead in the DoD commit treason lol

The barrel shroud was useless, all that extra weight never did shit to aid cooling.

And it looks good in star wars.

So funny - when I saw the title for this clip, my first thought was "I wonder if they'll mention High Road to China?".

First movie i thought about too. Really liked that movie….

@@andershansen9517 I forgot about HIgh Road to China as the Lewis gun was mentioned by the main character, one of the few things I remember about the movie.

Why they even rejected it in the first place

USMC used Lewis guns

Bit of an anecdote about the Chauchat, though, was that while certainly flawed its problems were drastically overstated by rumors and inexperience among expedition soldiers. The U.S. forces trained with a poorly-converted Chauchat rechambered for 30-06, the M1918 CSRG, which had improperly reamed chambers, among other issues. The guns did not work at all. These men trained with them before they went into combat, but were given M1915 CSRG Chauchat's chambered for 8mm Lebel (the weapon's native caliber) which performed much better. A lot of the "knowledge" deriding the Chauchat stem from the 30-06 model made for U.S. troops.

@@HomicideJack187 The magazines on the 8mm model had a tendency to clog up and were incredibly flimsy. Some of the worst mags I've seen.

@@huntclanhunt9697 Absolutely, I did say it was flawed. However, many of its problems were drastically overhyped. Especially with improper use, like when many WW1 US soldiers tended to use the weapon as a stand-in for a heavier machine gun once they captured a trench and suffered a subsequent counterattack. When you dump about 200 rounds out of it within a few minutes its aluminum barrel sleeve seizes up, so soldiers would often experience stoppages due to misuse.

Minus is jamming problems,

That would be the Madsen my friend.

@@phillipschouw2462 ik I forgot about it lol

Check your history facts bubba.

@@badassgregory boring

You are right it did catch some very limited use my mistake there.

5 German soldiers walk into a BAR It was a Browning experience. 😅😅

It was used by marines in late 1917

Meh, BAR is just a big rifle with smol magazine

Though true. Doctrinal use of the BAR at the time treated it as a Rifle+ rather than as an MG. WW2 yes absolutely it was used as an MG (though not a particularly good one).

Not just smuggling but also time traveling. They had to travel back to a long, long time ago and that's when the shipping starts.

@@TheRealFocalors Or perhaps the weapons were smuggled to Earth, but because we don't have the specific resource needed for converting gas into blaster bolts on our planet, we ended up incorporating the standard firearm mechanism so we can use bullets.

@@akotarakzWe just need to get in contact with the people of Coruscant or some other planet and trade with them for resources. The problem is finding something on Earth that they don't have that they need. Or at least something that they have but are running out of that can be found on Earth. It'll be great for all our militaries and the economy.

In the first Han Solo novel from 1979 "Han Solo at Star End" by Brian Daley, in the first chapter he is smugling slug throwers (Guns using bullits) So yeah, maybe some of them might have been the odd Lewis gun 😄

They usually go for German arms in galaxies far far away. I can think off just a couple of allied designs. One of the post war.

I am deeply grateful for this glimpse into Portugal's contributions during the Great War. Milhais' bravery should not be overlooked, nor should that of the Portuguese. They undertook extremely hazardous duty in conducting night infiltration raids and acquitted themselves despite a difficult situation.

You're right the BAR did see some limited use at the end of WW1 so I do apologize. Also appreciate all the added info! 🙏

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq to be honest, I didn't know it did either until I read (part) of "With Their Bare Hands". It was good for that but the rest of the book isn't very good in my opinion.

Sadly I have to limit my Star Wars use. I love Star Wars but Star Wars copyright strikes are a powerful force. Also very excellent additional information as always.

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq No doubt the work of Darth Vader and his damned Sith Lord George Lucas.

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Love this channel! I have a request, could you do the Spencer rifle, in the movies?

Probably running old surplus .303 ammo from WW2. Depending on manufacturer, date, and how it had been stored the ammo could have gone bad, leading to bad powder and corroded primers kzfaq.info/get/bejne/adN0e9ZlzbKZfX0.html Watch the first couple minutes of this video from Forgotten Weapons, he shows exactly what I'm talking about with the Lewis gun

@@buckberthod5007 Would be cool to get an original Lewis from the 1910s, though I'll likely never even see one in person.

Yah only recently noticed. It's a nice little detail.

yeah when I was a kid I didnt even know fg42 existed so didnt catch it then, but a recent rewatching made me realize that during the trainyard scene as Steiners men draw their weapons you can count at least 9 fg42's, possibly more but the other men in the back are mostly blocked from view. Interestingly they all seem to be using modified mg13 magazines. Would be interested to know if these were real fgs or replicas.

@@Ponen77 Even 9 FG42 replicas at the same spot are rare... 😄

@@M0butu You know what...now that you put it that way, yeah thats also very true ..😄

I never considered that. Thanks for this perspective!

when you put it like that, i wonder what's the indian good guy gun?

@@AremStefaniaK Beretta and Lee Enfield mainly

@@dragonstormdipro1013 kinda ironic though, the Beretta and Lee-Enfield styled firearms were used primarily by Sepoys, so there really is no true good guy gun

@@AremStefaniaK INSAS, I guess.

Exactly. It wasn't belt fed though.

Internet Movie Firearms Database.

Thank you so much!

Absolutely well said.

Considering that that the AIF in North Africa got all the modern equipment (Brens, etc), it was only natural that the militia battalions remained equipped with older weapons. They were even organised along the WW1 lines. Not to mention that some of the ideas on jungle warfare were unhelpful, so the 39th battalion did not take Vickers mgs or mortars to Kokoda, nor did they have artillery support, so the heaviest weapons were the Lewis gun and the hand grenade. Of course improvements were made as time went on an the Lewis was retired

@@stevekazenwadel5423 Good on you mate. More Australians should know their history. Fills ya with pride but equally breaks ya heart. The 39th militia btn. Certainly not coco's. Poor bloody Arnold Potts. Shameful what they did to him. Taking nothing away from Ralph Honner, brilliant bloke.

Such a pity the movie Kokoda was a shocker. Didn’t do an ounce of justice to the diggers of the 39th Battalion. I hope they do a remake that’s a reality based telling of their story worthy of their deeds and good cinema as well. The film was a real missed opportunity.

@@wattlebough So good to read your comment. I have to agree. 39th militia btn certainly not choco's . Clearly know your history.

The novel was written before the 1st Indy film, but the production and release came _after_ Indy. Indy was '81, HRTC was '83.

I think HRtC is 1983 not '81 although it was in development since 1979?

Thanks man. And thanks for sharing the feats of a real person behind the firearm.

Yeah read about that Portuguese bloke. Bloody tough man indeed.

Thanks for the feedback. Half my goal is just to expose movies people might be interested in.

@Hunter6213 yes

I also find it interesting that between the shroud and the barrel is a rather modern-looking finned aluminum heatsink reminiscent of modern electronics heatsinks.

The user also ends up sucking air from having to carry the damn thing

Thanks as always my Canadian friend

Thanks Ted. You too!

By Order of the Peaky Blinders

Darn those dodgy criminal types...

It's me Bren gun, probably one of my favorite lines in movie history.

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Decades ago I was at an outdoor shooting range and a guy arrived with a HUGE rifle bag. Shooters can be a nosy bunch, so many of us found a reason to mill around near his lane when cease fire was called. The bag disgorged a Barrett. There were hushed whispers and then someone bellowed out "YOU MUST PUT IT ON A TRIPOD!" in his best German accent. Most everyone, including the rifle guy, busted up laughing. I also used to hear "It shoots through sch**ls" from Johnny Dangerously when people brought 8"+ revolvers, but that line isn't funny anymore. Perhaps you could do a clip show of gun quotes/lines. "Soviet Podbyrin 9.2 millimeter is world's most powerful handgun." =)

I really must get round to watching this...

@@eamonnclabby7067 Both "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels" and "The Wild Bunch" are *absolute* must-see films.

Slow motion scene of magically appearing hippie chick

Loved that movie as a kid. First saw it on a road coach TV travelling from Melbourne to Sydney in the late 1980s.

Good ol'Bluey!

@@aussiemilitant4486 strewth...I just can't handle the strewth...great series...

Sheesh i remember this

@@greycatturtle7132same here

@@louismarlow53 cool

not just that, but also the sheer enormous technological leap that took place over the course of the war, the single biggest leap in military technology in a single war, not even ww2 changed so much

Quite agree...

Obviously the magazine was the problem, as without the magazine they were still using it in a galaxy far far away hundreds of years later.

@@bl18ce99 Heard lots about the unreliability of this weapon. Nobody, however specifies why. Only one source has mentioned a reason which was the mag, pan or whatever. Just something I read . No expert, man.

ah dang that was a wasted opportunity as I was genuinely looking for such a clip.

I remember that game! You could play certain parts on a split screen with a friend. I honestly didn’t remember that they were Lewis guns.

Still have that game and play periodically.

Gandolf with a Lewis gun. What's not to like.

That's actually THE TREASURE OF PANCHO VILLA, made around the same time as Mitchum's BANDITO and features Gilbert Roland playing a similar character to the one in BANDITO. But Rory Calhoun starred as "La Cucaracha"'s owner.

Absolutely

Indeed the Walmington-on-Sea Home Guard had one.

@@piney4562 that was Germanys biggest fear; the walmington on sea guard

@@louisbarraud7853 They don't like it up 'em after all.

That's right! An interesting fact is that for the scenes where the Lewis was fired, a DP-27 masked to look like a Lewis was used instead. This was either due to the real one needing repairs or the lack of ammo for it.

Я ждал этот комментарий, хоть кто-то вступился за товарища Сухова.

Thanks Ken. Welcome to the channel!

One of my great-uncles fought (and was captured) at Bataan. He was part of a provisional infantry battalion, made up of US Army Air Corps personnel. Their planes and pilots were diverted to Australia, following Pearl Harbor. I've often wondered what weapons they used, as they weren't specifically infantrymen.

@@Chris_the_Dingo I wish more attention would be given to the Battle of Baatan. Also, weapon wise, the M1 Garand's battle debut took place on Baatan, from day 1 of the japanese invasion and the last mounted cavalry charge by the US Army repelled the japanese onslaught long enough to allow the retreat into Baatan, in Jan 42. This cavalry charged comprised the Phillipine Scouts led by american officer Lt Ramsey who later took some of his scouts into the mountains to start guerilla warfare. Rich history in that battle.

@@stewartsrcpo Very interesting. I stumbled across my great-uncle's story by accident, an old newspaper clipping from my dad's hometown paper. He died in 1944 when his POW ship was inadvertently sunk by an American sub. From his POW records I was able to backtrack to his service at Bataan. He was in the 17th Bombardment Squadron (Light) a unit equipped with A-24 dive bombers (Army version of the Dauntless). With no planes or pilots, they were pressed into infantry service for the defense of Bataan. He survived the death march, and subsequent captivity, but not the sinking of the Arisan Maru. You're right...this doesn't get nearly enough attention. I think the period after Pearl Harbor - Wake Island, Bataan, etc - would make a great miniseries, like Band of Brothers and the Pacific.

Sad that did happen. I read a lot about the maru sinkings that pows. I know a group of grounded airmen and groundcrews halted a jap amphib assault on Baatan. They had no heavy weapons so the went back the airfield and stripped 50 cals from damaged fighters and jerry rigged them for beach defense. Maybe he was one of them. Amazing stories came out of Baatan, many heroic stands. We would have held out longer but our guys were starving.

ah now that was a missed opportunity. I'll have to start going through more classics when making these videos.

Humphrey Bogart on the deck of a merchant men firing at an attacking FW200? Old enough?

@@AtomicBabel Yes I remember the movie but not the title - it was told in a flashback of a flashback of a flashback. I do remember Bogart mowed down the crew of the downed aircraft.

Right on!

Belgium and Britain have quite a history of arms agreements and cooperation, L1A1 comes to mind too.

@@nxxynx5039 do they? I always thought the UK was one of those countries that despised using anything that wasn't homegrown. Like the Americans did with the FAL or the Germans with the p90 or the French with... Anything, really

@@Elderrion That all ended by 1900, most of the stuff was from USA and Belgium. I think the Vickers was homegrown but most of the small arms and crewed weapons after that period weren't even British, the tide had changed big time.

Absolutely!

Solo's pistol blaster was a Mauser 96 broom handle

Thanks so much

Yep, and how I originally learned about the gun.