If you say that, you probably have the ffb and pedals adjusted incorrectly, assuming you have pedals with load cell, I also assume that you are used to ABS in ACC.

Agree with your comments 100%. I race with abs off in Le Mans Ultimate and the brake feel is completely absent. Braking on the limit is a guessing game now. I don't believe it has to do with a different feel to other games, there is simply no feeling or feedback of any kind whatsoever.

@@kuervagrx9113 no on both counts. I have a 10k simulator and have been racing for over 10 years and am fast. I don’t play ACC as the FFB is woeful and driving experience is boring IMO. My points are valid and have been referenced by many others. I am indicating an area of the game that needs to be improved, not me or my rig

@@rhinomanwc exactly right. I want and need to feel what the car is doing….and this is as you say, absent

I shall enjoy a tea on that

Hi, well, Daniel Morad, BMW factory drivers,... said positive things about the game, while Daniel Morad even said there is too much feedback. LMU developers are top esports drivers too, one of them being Brabham esports teammember, former WRT teammember, and one of the fastest guys on the planet. He has the ability to work with real drivers and teams. Also Ferrari esports drivers are development drivers. Who am I to say they are wrong? Feedback has already been published in the LMU discord. Yuri & Alen (teammember of Nils) are very happy to be able to work with CDA & LMU to provide default setups. This video is just no coincidence as Nils has for 15 years a trackrecord about complaining against s397 (in the past in rf2 discord too) But, hey, everybody is allowed to publish their opinion and hope a game can become the same as the game they love ...

mate 😂

​​​​​​@@jeroengoudeseune7209 I'm really not following your comment , RF2 and LMU have super aggressive FFB for suspension compression , curbs / track noise , which is largely ffb that's not of use to actually drive from but it's effects / FFB that often make less experienced people think of games as having great ffb and the first thing people tend to notice in ffb. At a guess I'd imagine morad probably finds this noise aspect of the ffb and how aggressive flat spots are for example is "over the top" , he can't find the slip feel over the top as it's not there 😆 some how even iracing represents that variation of grip better and that's with iracings insane tire model. RF2 and LMU are both lacking in variation of sustained forces and low frequency FFB that specifically represents where the car is in the tires slip or the rotation of the car. As for who is anyone to comment , well if a person makes a valid point and has a good reason for what they are saying both logically or evidentially, it doesn't matter who they are. But unfortunately majority of simracers basically form there views from an argument from authority rather than by actually thinking about things for themselves or agreeing and disagreeing with specific points made. They will litrally just spam x real driver said this is good or bad , often even ignoring the entire context and actual point the real driver is even making. I. This video Nils made good points with good solid reasons behind them along with a solid argument for the subjective aspects / reasons for what he thinks is arguably a better or worse way to do things or of more or less value for a SIM. As for his "history" I don't care again if a person is making a point with good reasons behind the point that's all that matters. Separate to all of that I'm not really sure what your reply is specifically trying to argue , counter argue or agree with. Personally I quite like how LMU drives , Though generally I'm an AMS1 / AC1 fanboy.

@@jeroengoudeseune7209 for every driver who says one sim is great and another isn't you'll find one who says the opposite. Alexander Wurz said that F1 World Grand Prix on the N64 was the best racing sim ever ... and who are we to argue with an F1 driver, right? That was dumb at the time and aged even worse. I enjoy Morad's content, but I don't agree with everything, same as I don't agree with everything Rosberg states in his YT channel. It helps when you think for yourself. Every opinion you quote can be found for Iracing, AMS2, ACC, etc - they all work with top esports drivers, they are all experienced devs, they all have motorsport history, they all have pro drivers saying they're the best ... But at least they make an argument founded on experience, experimenting and perception/dfata. Same as Nils does. You can agree with that more or less. You on the other hand repeat what others say like a parrot and simply choose to quote the ones who say what you liked to hear. And then mix that with some conspiracy theory. Sounds like either you have a vested interest or you suffer from fanboy syndrome. Try thinking for yourself, then argue with what you conclude. And then one can actually engage in a conversation. But maybe that's not what you came here for in the first place ?

I'm sure it reaches him one way or another

I think 70% is a little bit harsh. Especially when you say that it is the case with all topics. Thats just plain generalisation. Generalisations rarely hold up to reality.

its really good in certain things. and we have to give credit to the fact that irl ffb (as in information through the steering wheel) is basically oversteer only and hardly anything else. just that in the sim that isn't useful for us. its a conceptual question imo

If a real driver, Dennis Lind, comes to Nils' chat to say that lock ups aren't felt at all, only the aftermath, I would say that the FFB is fine, even more than that. Should we have some audio queues, probably, although they don't exist (aren't heard) in real life either. Adding artificial forces isn't a solution to a problem that doesn't exist in real life.

thats not something i saw him write? :D either way: the question is about how we can get around whats missing when going from irl to sim. we don't have forces acting on our body, which takes away 90% of the feedback and essentially we are driving a sim based on VERY different sensory assessment than irl, so why limit ourselves to only what we can carry over from irl? it makes the sim harder to drive than an irl car. Also think about people with low end hardware. without additional cues, they are really completely blind. I couldn't imagine driving any sim just with a G29 these days. Let alone if they take away audio feedback for example. None of this would change what the correct input for the car is, or how realistic the maths underneath are, it only changes how you get your information about what is a correct and what is a wrong input.

@@SimracingPopometer The FFB only outputting steering forces is not a satisfactory solution because it omits the important g-forces that people actually drive off. I realise these cars irl probably don't have strong feedback on brake lockups (hence the wheelslip lights in the cockpit), but as a game they probably should come up with some kind of compromise between harsh reality and driveability as a video game.

fully agree. simracing is a different sport somewhat

You are going into the corner to fast

It's not just you. Since the update on 10th June all cars have more grip and understeer.

That's mainly driver error. They have a lot of rotation at disposal, but it's very easy to have too much brake input which results in understeer.

ok, then must be me doing wrong breaking. it feels like its locking to easy even with low Break pressure at setup

@@mesfigas Don't worry. It's quite tricky in the beginning. Coming from iRacing I had the trailbraking muscle memory imprinted onto my brain and it took some time to somehow override it. Also remember that sometimes you just want to coast. On iRacing you spend 100% of your time either braking or accelerating. On ACC and LMU it's different, since sometimes coasting is the answer.

People say that GT7 has a bad FFB, but I think it's excellent because it gives exactly the information I want. It informs the car's grip through the force of the steering wheel, heavier steering wheel = more grip, Light steering wheel = less grip, it's simple and efficient, acc has a lot of noise, every undulation on the track is amplified in the ffb, but what really matters isn't there, grip.

yeah testing something with youtube settings ;)

@@SimracingPopometer I'm going to use this from now on. If I make a mistake at work "it's fine just testing some settings".

ok? its not a mistake though, its on purpose :D

@@SimracingPopometer I know, I'm just being cheeky :)

oh you! ;)

the total output remains the same regardless of the battery setting. it impacts braking and isn't the Ferrari even all wheel drive with electric at the front?

@SimracingPopometer wait so adjusting the other setting not the regen doesn't change how much electric energy is being deployed?

@@Mythbuster3808 it does, but not total power. more electric just means less combustion and vice versa.

@@SimracingPopometer ohh I see. Didn't even know that. But I still find the ferrari way slower. Down the straights at lemans my top speed is much less than the porsche

@@Mythbuster3808 change wing I guess

absicht, teste was mit youtube's settings. es gibt kein deutsches video.

Everybody is keep on saying that shit about "other games have ABS and this one doesn't". Nils pointed out arguments, and I completely agree with him. The point is, there is no feedback from the tires what so ever, especially at the time of braking, which is obviously the most crucial part of all.

thats an opinion one can have. its just not very differentiated and articulate.

It could become, but now it's not. PERIOD

@@MitjaBonca what is better in your opinion?

@@matthiasgrunwald895 acc

@@MitjaBoncalol