The Long History of Sonic Prototypes/Unused Content

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MSC

MSC

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I just wanted another excuse to talk about Sonic lol.
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Music used:
Egg Fleet - Sonic Heroes
Mumbos Mountain - Banjo-Kazooie
Scrap Brain Zone - Sonic 1
The Final Decisive Battle - Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou vs. King Abaddon
Kitsch - Tekken 4
Heaven - Persona 4
Sizzle Dizzle - Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit
Angel Island Zone - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Breaking the Limit - Dragon Ball Z Budokai
We're Robots - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Daybreak Battle - Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3
Final Haunt - Shadow The Hedgehog
Open Your Heart (Demo Version) - Sonic Adventure
Open Your Heart - Sonic Adventure
Unknown From M.E - Sonic Adventure 2
Kill La Kill OST Final Boss Theme - Triple-Q
City Escape (Prototype) - Sonic Adventure 2
City Escape Act 1 - Sonic Generations
Sonic Heroes (No Gtr Mix) - Sonic Gems Collection
Ice Cap - Tee Lopes
Open Wings - Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2
Highs - GenesisKeys (Please go check them out their music is fire)
I Am All of Me - Shadow The Hedgehog
Shadow World - Persona 4
Blue Nun - GenesisKeys
His World (E3 2006 Version) - Sonic 06
Id (Purpose) - Fire Emblem: Awakening
Lost Courage Remix - Cxldr3
Kama Palace - Persona 1 PSP
Lost Impact - Shadow The Hedgehog
Black Blaze Hunter - Super Robot Wars OG
For Buddy - Yakuza 0
King's Uneasiness - Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2
Fist Bump (SXSW Version) - Sonic Forces
Heartless Colleague - Sonic Adventure
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• Sonic 2 Beta - Genocid...
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• Sonic The Hedgehog Spe...
• [TAS] [Obsoleted] [Cam...
• Sonic Crackers Gameplay
• Sonic X-Treme - Cancel...
• Sonic 32X/Sonic Mars (...
• Sonic Adventure ~ Soni...
• Sonic Adventure - Spee...
• Sonic Jam - Sonic Worl...
• Sky Chase Act 1 (Sonic...
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• Super Sonic the Hedgehog
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@MSCModernSonicChannel
@MSCModernSonicChannel 7 ай бұрын
Hello everyone, thank you all for watching this video! I just wanted to let everyone know that I've made a new Discord server! Join the MSC Discord Server: discord.com/invite/hTDyCsDbQn
@PacTheAnimator
@PacTheAnimator 6 ай бұрын
you forogt about sonic blast and 3d
@JamesRoblox440
@JamesRoblox440 2 ай бұрын
I wish they removed the sonic 2 movements today and replace it with the nick arcade sortie version because it’s cool how he moves like a real person and stopes and blinkcs
@THEMIMIK
@THEMIMIK Жыл бұрын
sonic and shadow screaming in sonic adventure 2 is fucking terrifying and i absolutely love it 💀
@Nomar2007_NWDE_WRESTLING
@Nomar2007_NWDE_WRESTLING Жыл бұрын
11:01 The reason why the Goal sign says "You Say!" is because this early build was shown at the "Yuusei Sega World" Event in Tokyo, Japan in December 6th 1992
@E2ForLife
@E2ForLife Жыл бұрын
So was you say was give your opinion
@sukkin3567
@sukkin3567 9 ай бұрын
@@E2ForLife "you say" is a pun with "yuusei"
@piranhalettuce
@piranhalettuce Жыл бұрын
8:54 Actually Genocide City was a more mechanical based level than a level about genocide, it was later renamed to Cyber City which is way more fitting. My guess is they thought Genocide sounded cool but they later found out what it means and they changed it.
@alieneko_nyo
@alieneko_nyo Жыл бұрын
That's actually what happened xD Since the main Sonic Team was.. from Japan, they didn't know *that* much english and when they discover what genocide meant they changed it to Cyber City, kinda funny ngl
@j.jolidier1671
@j.jolidier1671 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you because in Sonic origins but I was in the art I could see a scrap level called Cyber City on my Xbox
@chaosspider5765
@chaosspider5765 Жыл бұрын
i heard somewhere that genocide city was repurposed into Metropolis Zone Act 3, which is why that it's the only zone in Sonic 2 with 3 acts
@maltheperson
@maltheperson Жыл бұрын
them: ooo genocide sounds like a good name OH WAIT REMOVE THAT NAME IT MEANS SOMETHING ELSE-
@Liftinn
@Liftinn Жыл бұрын
@@alieneko_nyo this is true
@RoseSupreme
@RoseSupreme Жыл бұрын
For Sonic Generations, you forgot to mention that in the 3DS version, the Big Arms fight had a remix of Doomsday Zone, but was replaced with a remix of the proper song. And there are no traces of this song's existence in the files, only in a video of early gameplay.
@MSCModernSonicChannel
@MSCModernSonicChannel Жыл бұрын
Oh? 👀
@RoseSupreme
@RoseSupreme Жыл бұрын
@@MSCModernSonicChannel Right here for your convenience. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nsmIirCm16fInKc.html
@kimwatson2676
@kimwatson2676 Жыл бұрын
And the big arms is later used for the final boss of the good and best endings of sonic.exe nightmare beginning
@Floof1996
@Floof1996 Жыл бұрын
Is there a link for the song?
@pvzmariosonica8fan
@pvzmariosonica8fan 11 ай бұрын
​@@MSCModernSonicChannel 👀👀👀👀👀
@HyperStormH
@HyperStormH Жыл бұрын
Pretty good video, though there are some things you got wrong here (that I found): 1) "Needlemouse" is actually a mistranslation. It was really called "Mr Hedgehog". 2) I have no idea where you got 2 and CD being one game from. They were developed at the same time, and some of the concepts used in CD were meant to be in 2, but they were never "one game." Maybe you got that mixed up with Sonic 3 & Knuckles' development timeline? 3) Simon Wai wasn't the first to leak the SW build online - he found it on a Neocities site and simply brought it to the attention of the western Sonic fanbase. 4) Dust Hill WASN'T the name of the scrapped desert level - it was just an early name for Mystic Cave. The desert level was most likely called Sand Shower Zone, based on some concept art. 5) "Genocide City" was simply a misunderstanding due to language barriers. The zone was later renamed Cyber City before it was scrapped. That's really all I found since I'm only REALLY familiar with the classics.
@jaydenbrownman4181
@jaydenbrownman4181 Жыл бұрын
does mystic cave look like a fucking dusty hill to you
@ajaxmaxbitch
@ajaxmaxbitch Жыл бұрын
​​@@jaydenbrownman4181 it's a fucking cave dude
@jaydenbrownman4181
@jaydenbrownman4181 Жыл бұрын
@@ajaxmaxbitch thats what i said tho
@ajaxmaxbitch
@ajaxmaxbitch Жыл бұрын
@@jaydenbrownman4181 I was referencing Cyber shell because you were to
@k-leb4671
@k-leb4671 Жыл бұрын
How on Earth is Dust Hill an early name for Mystic Cave? Neither "dust" nor "hill" describe anything in the Mystic Cave Zone we know.
@cisco1655
@cisco1655 Жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention in sa2's beta build if you beat it, a fading picture of maria with black eyes will permenantly appear throughout the whole game
@MSCModernSonicChannel
@MSCModernSonicChannel Жыл бұрын
damn you right 🤦‍♀️
@FlipeTheBased
@FlipeTheBased Жыл бұрын
Wait what.
@fawkesthefox912
@fawkesthefox912 Жыл бұрын
Source?
@FlipeTheBased
@FlipeTheBased Жыл бұрын
@@fawkesthefox912 any of these Sonic Adventure 2 Maria's Revenge creepypasta videos or creepypasta wiki pages lmao
@piranhalettuce
@piranhalettuce Жыл бұрын
@@FlipeTheBased what are you even talking about?
@furfool191
@furfool191 Жыл бұрын
29:55 Gotta give the band props for letting that one kid with the flute partake in making the song
@tatertot64
@tatertot64 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say, hearing Johnny Gioeli scat the vocal melody for the Sonic Heroes theme always cements to me how talented he is.
@iMernerner
@iMernerner 11 ай бұрын
He's been singing for his whole life and he was really good at it and still nailing it. Even in 2003, he was already had over 10 years of experience as professional singer with few bands!
@Mazgid
@Mazgid 10 ай бұрын
Actually it sounds better than final song. No bating, I hear that's unfinished, yet the motive and structure is much more interesting
@chaosspider5765
@chaosspider5765 Жыл бұрын
There's a pretty big bit of Shadow The Hedgehog that was cut. So, originally, SEGA wanted to use 2 songs from a very obscure band called Sins Of A Divine Mother (they're not even on Spotify OR KZfaq, and some of their tracks are completely lost), as well as a song by Magna-Fi. Magna-Fi's song was called Who I Am, and was originally intended to be the main theme and final boss theme of the game, which may explain why Shadow says "This is who I am" in each of the endings. The other two songs, the ones by Sins Of A Divine Mother, are called All Of Me and Broken. Broken was going to be the Neutral Hero theme, while All Of Me would've been the Neutral Dark theme. Jun Senoue and the band were all in agreement to use the songs, except for their singer, who they couldn't contact in time for the game, hence Sins Of A Divine Mother's tracks went unused. Magna-Fi felt that their song, Who I Am, had more potential than just being stuck to a video game, and so they declined the offer. However, they still publically released a new, higher quality, re-recorded version with their album Versechoruskillme. Hence, this song was also cut. The three songs were still all released with an album called "Lost And Found: Shadow The Hedgehog Vocal Trax", which also included I Am... All Of Me, Almost Dead, Waking Up, E.G.G.M.A.N. Doc. Robeatnix Mix, Chosen One, All Hail Shadow and Never Turn Back. The album was released by SEGA officially, but this isn't on Spotify, or KZfaq or any major streaming sites either.
@SamuelSonicYt
@SamuelSonicYt Жыл бұрын
0:29 Sonic The Hedgehog (1991) 3:42 Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (1992) 9:22 Sonic CD (1993) 13:28 Sonic The Hedgehog 3 (1994) 17:17 Sonic Crackers (1995) 17:45 Sonic X-Treme (1996) 18:41 Sonic Adventure (1998) 26:18 Sonic Adventure 2 (2001) 32:50 Sonic Heroes (2003) 38:41 Sonic Extreme 39:31 Shadow The Hedgehog (2005) 40:49 Sonic The Shadow World 41:35 Sonic The Hedgehog 2006 (2006) 46:22 Sonic The Hedgehog: Awakening (2006-2009) 47:11 / 47:53 Sonic Adventure 3 (2007-2017) 47:53 / 47:11 Sonic Unleashed (2008) 51:04 Sonic Colors (2010) 52:30 Sonic Generations (2011) 55:23 Sonic Dimensions (2012) 57:15 Sonic Mania (2017) 59:28 Sonic Forces (2017) 1:04:03 Sonic Speed Simulator (2022) 1:20:04 Sonic Frontiers (2022) If i missed any, just tell me!
@FunnyParadox
@FunnyParadox Жыл бұрын
Wait is that normal that the two last one doesn't work ? he cutted them after the video's release or it's just a troll lol
@SamuelSonicYt
@SamuelSonicYt Жыл бұрын
@@FunnyParadox bro ofc SSS & Sonic Frontiers aren't here
@SamuelSonicYt
@SamuelSonicYt Жыл бұрын
@@FunnyParadox it's just a thing i wanted but was not added since that's the first time i watch him.
@tlg1310
@tlg1310 Жыл бұрын
47:26 Shadow Dabs as he rail grinds
@perryorbit5304
@perryorbit5304 Жыл бұрын
@@tlg1310 nice
@MarioSpivey
@MarioSpivey Жыл бұрын
This was a great video and you did a good look through of the Unused content. Although If i recall correctly SA3 and the Adventure Remakes were just Rumors made up by Zippo (someone who's known in the Fandom for making up fake Sonic Leaks) to get others more mad at Forces, Rise of Lyric, and even Sega for the reasons we don't have those games.
@MSCModernSonicChannel
@MSCModernSonicChannel Жыл бұрын
zippo and his shenanigans again lol
@shyguy85
@shyguy85 Жыл бұрын
True but I'm sure those things were thought about or even planned at some point in sonics history
@MarioSpivey
@MarioSpivey Жыл бұрын
@@shyguy85 Most likely yeah
@NintendanGX
@NintendanGX 11 ай бұрын
Mr Needlemouse is a common misconception. The Japanese refer to hedgehogs has "Harinezumi", and while yes, the literal translation is needle (hari) mouse (nezumi), it's completely missing the point. Needlemouse was not at all what Yuji Naka or Naoto Oshima referred to the character as, and Yuji Naka himself clarified as much. It was always Mr Hedgehog.
@snac4439
@snac4439 Жыл бұрын
8:42 actually no, desert dazzle was supposed to be it's own thing for cd 2011 it takes a bit of inspiration from dust hill but it's a completely different stage (which also later got repurposed for mania) Also, minor nitpick, Dust hill is actually mystic cave The desert level which was meant for sonic 2 is actually called Sand Shower
@YeomasBros.2008
@YeomasBros.2008 9 ай бұрын
Well you're mostly right but i know that you're lying about Dust Hill Zone being named Sand Shower Zone
@snac4439
@snac4439 9 ай бұрын
@@YeomasBros.2008 nah it's been confirmed a while ago, thanks to concept art being published on the internet.
@shardsoftime0952
@shardsoftime0952 7 ай бұрын
​@@snac4439link?
@arthBou
@arthBou 16 күн бұрын
dust hill was meant to be a variant of green hill, does mystic cave look dusty or like a hill?
@PercyPanleo
@PercyPanleo Жыл бұрын
12:17 We still don't have a build with this level, but we at least know two names for the zone that were considered, being Ridicule Root and Dubious Depths
@TheZeroNeonix
@TheZeroNeonix Жыл бұрын
I think that suggestion of multiple endings in Sonic 06 was just a misunderstanding. I think the achievement was supposed to be for beating the "hidden" final story. In other words, you complete the stories of Sonic, Shadow, and Silver, and then complete the final story.
@k-leb4671
@k-leb4671 Жыл бұрын
I would agree with that. It's pretty clear that the achievement descriptions are some pretty dodgy-arse Engrish...some of the most amusingly bad Engrish I've ever seen actually. It would be in vain trying to interpret any potential unused ideas from the achievements.
@SallyPuppy123456
@SallyPuppy123456 Жыл бұрын
Hey man. For someone with a smaller following and (I assume?) less experience than other sonictubers on the platform you do a surprisingly good job at keeping it interesting. (probably just my sonictism speaking) I noticed flaws in the delivery and editing at times in the video, but even despite that it never really took me out of it. I've never really been able to make more entertaining content like that despite my own skills and experience with editing, content creation and the like (I just don't really have the charisma or creativity for it) so it personally impresses me a lot to see stuff like this. Good shit man, you got a sub from me. (Also, if you ever need help or even just advice with editing or anything else as well, I'd be glad to help you out or contribute, otherwise, just keep doing what you do best.)
@fabionoronhazampieri7639
@fabionoronhazampieri7639 Ай бұрын
37:51 sonic, shadow and espio are done with life
@joshuashaw6105
@joshuashaw6105 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, that's what the Chao sound like in the Dreamcast version of Sonic Adventure 1 period. That "Shadow" concept art that looks like Blaze, is actually just Blaze. It was her concept art before they settled on her final design. Also, Shadow the Hedgehog was made because while recovering from Heroes' development, Iizuka spent his time playing Ratchet and Clank and Jak 2, and wanted a game to appeal more to those audiences. Not the Call of Duty crowd. Call of Duty hadn't even gotten popular in the mainstream at that point. Halo was the main shooter at that point in time. The original Sonic audience by that point was either in their early 20s or mid-late teens, so they wanted a Sonic game that grew along with that audience. Bad idea, I know. But still.
@LHGeee
@LHGeee Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love stuff like this and you did a really good job talking about everything in a clear and interesting way :)
@voidanimates
@voidanimates 11 ай бұрын
12:46 I have guesses to what the s monitors would be used for, 1 would be to help the devs test the time travel mechanic, hence why it was removed. Or 2, to be a hard-to-find monitor that helps you time travel. Invincibility would be to help the devs not get hurt by enemies in time travel, the speedshoes helping them go fast enough.
@drmariojonathan
@drmariojonathan Жыл бұрын
Looks like a lot of hard work and research went into this doc. Nice work!
@PokechiYT
@PokechiYT 11 ай бұрын
I find the beta/unfinished live and learn very interesting because whatever is replacing the vocals does not match up with the final version. I find that really interesting! Was there different lyrics or was that what Sonic Team thought the lyrics would be???
@wessquiid
@wessquiid Жыл бұрын
0:48 Sonic wasn't actually called Mr. Needlemouse in development, he was called Mr. Hedgehog
@WheelTMA
@WheelTMA Жыл бұрын
that's a mistake most people make.
@Jekuma
@Jekuma Жыл бұрын
Well, it's more complicated. "Needlemouse" is a very direct translation of the Japanese word for hedgehogs 針鼠 (harinezumi). Even though Oshima's concept art for Sonic rendered it in katakana. 針 can translate to "pin" or "needle" and 鼠 refers to mice. Mr. Needlemouse is just a very direct translation of the kanji for their word for hedgehog, so in a twisted way, it's correct sure. But nobody who is Japanese (or knows Japanese) will read it as "needlemouse".
@cheetodoesyourmom9889
@cheetodoesyourmom9889 Жыл бұрын
54:21 dementia be like
@MONSTAboyGaming
@MONSTAboyGaming Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@ritaandrunt5767
@ritaandrunt5767 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering the various prototypes of the classic sonic games and also some prototype versions of the modern sonic games as well
@yousefslimani99
@yousefslimani99 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this videos I really love watching sonic cut content videos!
@lqu
@lqu Жыл бұрын
54:21 Felt like I was having a stroke. Surprised that made it to the final video.
@mariapocalypse6314
@mariapocalypse6314 Жыл бұрын
To add another dimension to the Sonic 2/Sonic CD thing, I know Sonic 2 for Master System was also originally just... Sonic 2, but on Master System. But then, like CD, it eventually became its own thing. You even have a version of the CD opening tune as the Green Hill theme. So I wonder if it was a snapshot of what "Sonic 2" may have looked like at a different point in time.
@0dayrepairs
@0dayrepairs Жыл бұрын
Yo, is that the Triple-Q mashup of Kill la Kill and Live & Learn in the background of the SA2 footage? What a banger! Glad to see you're a fellow man of culture
@jonicschannel5008
@jonicschannel5008 Жыл бұрын
5:05 it's in 2 player because you hit b+start.
@Rockman_CDH
@Rockman_CDH Жыл бұрын
Dude, you’ve come a long way! Awesome video
@GODISGRACIOUS05
@GODISGRACIOUS05 Жыл бұрын
Wow nice editing for the video and in it msc
@TheZeroNeonix
@TheZeroNeonix Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I hadn't heard of Sonic Dimensions, but I remember having a dream with Sonics from different dimensions joining forces. They each had different colors and personalities. The only other detail I remember from my dream, though, was that the green Sonic refused the offer of a chili dog, because he was a vegetarian. Blue Sonic was very shook by that.
@MSCModernSonicChannel
@MSCModernSonicChannel Жыл бұрын
LOL
@MustafaNalbantov
@MustafaNalbantov 10 ай бұрын
​@@MSCModernSonicChannel😊
@MustafaNalbantov
@MustafaNalbantov 10 ай бұрын
That was stupid
@Esgoneverevers
@Esgoneverevers Жыл бұрын
Amazing video man, great work!
@earthwormjim91
@earthwormjim91 Жыл бұрын
Well made video but hoooooly shit the amount of incorrect information in it is almost stunning
@tygical
@tygical Жыл бұрын
31:48 LMFAOOOOOOOO THAT CAUGHT ME SO OFF GUARD I BURSTED OUT LAUGHING FOR LIKE 5 MINUTES STRAIGHT
@chaoticmemories
@chaoticmemories 22 күн бұрын
40:22 I need to thank this bit for making me discover such a cool band
@MatthewCobalt
@MatthewCobalt Жыл бұрын
3:58 I know that the video is more on the information rather than presentation, but man have I never hear a person flatly fail at pronouncing "Arcade" so hard in my life.
@humanityisnotbeautiful1941
@humanityisnotbeautiful1941 Жыл бұрын
Since this is like the only video I've ever seen talking about the development of Shadow the Hedgehog, I do know that apparently, there's some build of the game out there using the Adventure Era voice cast instead of the ones from Sonic X. I vaguely remember some video mentioning a tweet by youtuber BalenaProductions, which mentioned how they played an early demo of Shadow at a gaming convention, and it still used the Adventure cast reprising their roles. I've looked everywhere, but I can't find that tweet, or the video it was in, so that may just be total bullshit though. Not sure.
@eraser1103wastaken
@eraser1103wastaken 10 ай бұрын
10:32 the blue ring box mightve been for the wobbly rings that appeared in sonic mania. The sound when you get it in mania is a scrapped sound from sonic CD which couldve been used for the powerup, that explains that this could be a pretty early prototype.
@jadethehedgehogYT
@jadethehedgehogYT Жыл бұрын
31:01 Dat scream tho! 😂😂😂 32:33 Sonic swearing through the city 38:06 Who voiced Metal Sonic? 38:10 Metal sonic calm down 1:02:14 Who was the narrator voice
@deadkatasumi
@deadkatasumi 4 ай бұрын
I love that you added the heaven theme from persona 4
@Ardhamon5000
@Ardhamon5000 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I enjoyed watching this alot
@user-uf3rj9wz4h
@user-uf3rj9wz4h 9 ай бұрын
i watched this 2 times and this was great from you
@NewYorkCityRat
@NewYorkCityRat Жыл бұрын
54:22 bro had to make sure we knew twice 💀💀
@SireForseti
@SireForseti Жыл бұрын
instantly subbed when I heard the Genesiskeys music :)
@arbustin5646
@arbustin5646 Жыл бұрын
extremely underrated, awesome video my guy
@MSCModernSonicChannel
@MSCModernSonicChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@JamesaSonicfan1457
@JamesaSonicfan1457 11 ай бұрын
31:01 straight up nightmare fuel...💀☠️
@olds86307
@olds86307 Жыл бұрын
3:00 you held b, which brings you to a test for what is ment to be the ending same goes for 2p mode in sonic 2 (holding b on level selec enables 2p mode)
@DanknDerpyGamer
@DanknDerpyGamer Жыл бұрын
Looks like you might be holding down B when you entered the stages on the Nick Arcade proto - where doing so will enter a split screen mode if the level has no level. Interestingly, you can do this in stages where one act has no water, and the other does - or one stage has no water, and the next stage does, which corrupts the hell out of the graphics when you go from the waterless 2P mode level to the water filled stage or act. This doesn't appear to be fully fixed until ... IDK if it was the Wai proto, or the build after the Wai proto. It is interesting. I've always wanted to do a video comparing the evolution of 2P mode in Sonic 2.
@windwaker.isthebest
@windwaker.isthebest 2 күн бұрын
I keep rewatching and rewatching this video lol
@kimi1984
@kimi1984 Жыл бұрын
In sonic 3 you can glitch the miniboss to play the S&K miniboss instead during Hydrocity zone.
@eeboiee
@eeboiee 8 ай бұрын
I assume the reason why it plays that sped up version of Final Zone in Hidden Palace is because it was supposed to be another track that played, maybe even a sound effect for some sort of transition because the stage was supposed to be encountered when collecting chaos emeralds.
@huskey1062
@huskey1062 10 ай бұрын
40:43 46:21 gotta give props to the music selection
@sunsetpov824
@sunsetpov824 Жыл бұрын
"Sonic and tails are sleeping together" EXCUSE ME???? 😭😭😭😭😭
@oliviafrancis3389
@oliviafrancis3389 Жыл бұрын
in the sonic origins premium collection there's concept art of little planet from sonic cd and it shows 8 rounds, it shows the cut R2 level as an underground maze stage with fans
@TheZeroNeonix
@TheZeroNeonix Жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I saw news about Sonic Adventure in a magazine. I thought it looked weird, because Sonic was purple. But that probably was something funky going on with the print.
@Dragokirbo
@Dragokirbo Жыл бұрын
40:49 It took me a second to understand why you put that song there lol
@guffingtonreal
@guffingtonreal 10 ай бұрын
It's funny that Secret Rings ended up far better than '06 considering its development.
@Damian-cilr2
@Damian-cilr2 Жыл бұрын
r2 in sonic cd had some new stuff found,new concept art released in sonic origins that showed that it indeed was fairly similar to marble zone.1 act outside,2nd act inside music was found too,also 2 names.dubious depths and ridicule root
@Starkiller156
@Starkiller156 Жыл бұрын
Love the video but wanted to ask if you're at least for a quick second video mention some of the stuff in the whitehead 2011 CD remaster? Also I thought it was worth mentioning about the sonic mars prototype. I feel like it's worth mentioning there was a concept map for the time travel mechanic in sonic 2 where past zones were revealed like Olympus etc also Neo green hill zone is just a remnant name of this time travel concept. Probably like a metalized version or basically be emerald hill's early name.
@pixel6894
@pixel6894 9 ай бұрын
Good job with this video overall but I feel you could have redone some line reads and cut some lines better. Overall really enjoyed the video though keep up the good work!
@YANG_OSC
@YANG_OSC 11 ай бұрын
Your videos are so entertaining
@MSCModernSonicChannel
@MSCModernSonicChannel 11 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@YANG_OSC
@YANG_OSC 9 ай бұрын
Your welcome
@Nick-Wickerbeast
@Nick-Wickerbeast 5 ай бұрын
15:27 - Literally did not know this before and I yelled: “I’m sorry, what?!”. I’m pretty sure I woke up my sister…
@mrmistermelom
@mrmistermelom Жыл бұрын
32:33 sound like the start of that like siren sound at the start of live and learn
@spiritpyros
@spiritpyros Жыл бұрын
Ok so i never expected anyone to use one of genesiskeys' songs at all that man is way to slept on
@MSCModernSonicChannel
@MSCModernSonicChannel Жыл бұрын
YESIR
@UltraCenterHQ
@UltraCenterHQ Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@kargaroc386
@kargaroc386 9 ай бұрын
The SA autodemo has files for the older design of windy valley, which was a *big* deal when it was first found. Also there's a bunch of prototypes for the game gear/master system games.
@Nathanlee63
@Nathanlee63 Жыл бұрын
Jesus chirst your thumbnails is got damn terrified. My legs I shaking
@guffingtonreal
@guffingtonreal 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Time Break is a power up returning from Secret Rings. Speed Break was always a version of boosting.
@randomtopic1666
@randomtopic1666 10 ай бұрын
53:44 correct me if im wrong but these might have been for early development of the sega gensis console near green hills entrance,your able to play sonic 1 if you buy the gensis controller from the shop
@Heazytoohot
@Heazytoohot Жыл бұрын
Tekken 4 and tenkaichi music? You're the goat
@lynxzanimated
@lynxzanimated 8 ай бұрын
Nice video bro.
@acrusader9834
@acrusader9834 11 ай бұрын
For the unused voice clips in sonic CD they actually wind up using the one where he says “Yeah!” In the mobile port and in origins he says it when he gets a Live box
@vins2030
@vins2030 Жыл бұрын
This was the most interesting 1 hour video I ever watched.
@restlesss0ul900
@restlesss0ul900 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this interesting video.
@TheAwesomeGamr64
@TheAwesomeGamr64 10 ай бұрын
1:00:47 That is used for Super Sonic's Theme in the final game
@_Tzer
@_Tzer Жыл бұрын
Shadow embodies gerald's wish as during the villain route in shadow's own game Shadow embodies maria's wish during the hero route in his own game. What is among shadow's first words to doctor eggman "I will grant you one wish." Shadow has been a vessel for other's wishes until he outright rejects it and breaks through literal depression and his dad coming back with the milk after being an evil alien overlord and seeing one person get murdered as his only memory. The game may be flawed but it has some unique things to take away from it tbh if it was like jak 2 it prolly could have sold better and been a better game, by being mature not as in violence or swear words no. As in delve into the psychological issues that make up shadow deeply and tell a deeply emotional story about someone with trauma. Also a military weapon always knows how to use guns if they dont they aren't a good military.
@peterpumkineater69346
@peterpumkineater69346 Жыл бұрын
In the topic of SA3, Shadow the Hedgehog's working title was Sonic Adventure 3: Shadow the Hedgehog
@carecoable
@carecoable Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for making a compilation of the prototypes! Also, I hope your chair is doing good.
@sirletonvladiton2304
@sirletonvladiton2304 11 ай бұрын
Well, R2 was originally going to Relic Ruins/Dubious Depths for Sonic CD, but now they scrapped/removed or cut out of nowhere and didn't shown in game version on it. Same way was did in 2013, they showed something new and fresh, but they never shown in game, because developers was going to sometimes changed and overhauled for this R2. So they bring in Sonic Mania, which is called Miracle Saloon Zone.
@Ekraelum
@Ekraelum 9 ай бұрын
This is *really* cool. I'll never get over the fact that Sonic 06 was sold incomplete lmao
@SamuelSonicYt
@SamuelSonicYt Жыл бұрын
58:20 wow. That literally ended up as a mod to Sonic Mania (yes, they did it to all characters)
@guffitrash
@guffitrash Жыл бұрын
The City Escape beta theme reminds me of how the credits themes for American Dad! and Family Guy is just the intro's instrumental but with extra instrumentations to replace the vocals.
@harutoesyt
@harutoesyt Жыл бұрын
Did you know Sonic Adventure was originally developed on the Saturn?
@MSCModernSonicChannel
@MSCModernSonicChannel Жыл бұрын
I said that in the video
@harutoesyt
@harutoesyt Жыл бұрын
@@MSCModernSonicChannel timestamp? And if you did I'm ass
@MSCModernSonicChannel
@MSCModernSonicChannel Жыл бұрын
@@harutoesyt 20:23
@harutoesyt
@harutoesyt Жыл бұрын
@@MSCModernSonicChannel shit I guess that counts my fault
@SamuelSonicYt
@SamuelSonicYt Жыл бұрын
@@harutoesyt but he didn't mention that Saturn Sonic Adventure was made in a project named "Project Sonic"
@Jesus_PK
@Jesus_PK Жыл бұрын
Good video mate.
@BobbyHillHyperTails18
@BobbyHillHyperTails18 Жыл бұрын
the frame drop for sonic adventure 2’s multiplayer is actually intended in the final version of the dreamcast release the frame rate is still halved only on the battle port is the multiplayer 60 fps
@k-leb4671
@k-leb4671 Жыл бұрын
The editing in this video seems to be pretty off. A lot of your voice clips get cut off at the end, making everything feel a bit rushed. Plus, some of your lines even get repeated in this video, as if you forgot to cut out multiple takes of the same line. The video was enjoyable overall but I thought I'd point these out for the future.
@Heazytoohot
@Heazytoohot Жыл бұрын
Love the tekken 4 music 👀
@SamuelSonicYt
@SamuelSonicYt Жыл бұрын
58:43 that was actually used, it's in Stardust Speedway in the BG after beating the lil mecha sonic robots Edit: nvm it was a tower
@Reuben0764
@Reuben0764 6 ай бұрын
Once I was at comic con April 2022 at the uk (IM FROM THE UK) and played sonic colors on the GameCube somehow
@TheDocRobot
@TheDocRobot 8 ай бұрын
Ok, so.. the second sonic cd prototypes title theme went on to by used in "Ultimate Classic Sonic Scene Creator" on scratch, where it was used as the title theme of that game
@jonathanthomas9259
@jonathanthomas9259 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Sonic 2’s wall knock back made it’s way in the 6th Generation version Sonic Unleashed. (By that I mean the Wii/PS2 version was secretly bought back in the scrap Sonic 2 beta feature.)
@SamuelSonicYt
@SamuelSonicYt Жыл бұрын
6:42 so that's why Tails is immortal here!
@JANUELODEON_ESTUSA
@JANUELODEON_ESTUSA Жыл бұрын
17:11 Funny Scream when S3P Sonic dies
@Theneptuno
@Theneptuno Жыл бұрын
Dam that hour went by fast 😢
@owendinostudios1200
@owendinostudios1200 Жыл бұрын
The Nick Arcade and Simon Wai builds don’t necessarily boot into multiplayer, as you have to put in a code to get those
@SONIC_OLR
@SONIC_OLR 5 ай бұрын
14:04 Sonic 3 and knuckles : AAAAAA Sonic 3 : what the he'll just happened Sonic and knuckles : I don't know
@videotape2959
@videotape2959 10 ай бұрын
5:26 The level was shown in gaming magazines back in the day. Besides, the first prototype that became widely known to the community was the "Simon Wai" one, not this "Nick Arcade" build that was shared on the internet later on in 2006.
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