The Lovecraft Film 30 Years in the Making

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ZombieRequin

ZombieRequin

Ай бұрын

Hey, Here's to hoping to see this one day, huh?
#lovecraft #lovecraftian #deltoro #unfinished

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@zombierequin3381
@zombierequin3381 Ай бұрын
It's GEE-AIR-MO, ya Fuck! Yeah, Idk how that happened either. I say it at least once in the video right to show I usually know how to pronounce it. I guess when recording run off sentences my tongue really wants him to sound like Guh-Merro like he's some street fighter character.
@littlejimmy7402
@littlejimmy7402 Ай бұрын
Thanks for saying that top line in My voice.
@lindseyariegel7703
@lindseyariegel7703 Ай бұрын
I can't believe I've been waiting for this movie for 20 years now.
@wimvanderstraeten6521
@wimvanderstraeten6521 Ай бұрын
The 2005 black-and-white silent adaptation of The Call of Cthulhu manages to capture the essence of Lovecraft's storytelling and the atmosphere of his stories pretty well.
@thomasnihil4878
@thomasnihil4878 Ай бұрын
Same here! Love this movie, too. Have you watched the Whisperer in Darkness adaptation?
@wimvanderstraeten6521
@wimvanderstraeten6521 Ай бұрын
@@thomasnihil4878 I haven't seen that one.
@robodd4694
@robodd4694 Ай бұрын
And it didn't require a multi-million budget.
@alexbloddrunk1875
@alexbloddrunk1875 Ай бұрын
Haven’t watch that, name please?
@robodd4694
@robodd4694 Ай бұрын
@@alexbloddrunk1875 Are you replying to me? Because both comments above state the name of both movies in their comments.
@ZamboniZone
@ZamboniZone Ай бұрын
"God laughs when we make plans." I must be a riot to him then
@samcyphers2902
@samcyphers2902 Ай бұрын
John Carpenter's The Thing is fairly close to being a Mountains of Madness adaptation, along with "Who Goes There?" The Lovecraft stories that have never been filmed yet but deserve them the most are The Shadow out of Time or Through the Gates of the Silver Key.
@cernstormrunner7263
@cernstormrunner7263 Ай бұрын
Honestly after the clusterf### that Tom Cruise made of THE MUMMY Del Toro dodged a bullet here
@jeremyjohngraham
@jeremyjohngraham Ай бұрын
Just saw dune 2, and when I think of that scale and quality but with del toro and lovecraft, it would be amazing.
@mattresbert
@mattresbert Ай бұрын
I'll happily wait another 30 years if it's helmed by Guillermo ❤
@deezee2965
@deezee2965 Ай бұрын
Speaking of Stop-Motion Lovecraft, I recommand "bluworm" youtube channel. Amaizing shorts.
@tylerskiss
@tylerskiss Ай бұрын
It’s not that hard. There have been some excellent Lovecraft adaptations including Color Out of Space, A Shadow Over Innsmouth (titled Dagon for some reason), A Whisperer In The Darkness and Lurking Fear as well as some great films inspired by Lovecraft including In The Mouth of Madness and the Resurrected.
@Scarshadow666
@Scarshadow666 Ай бұрын
Yes! There's been some great Lovecraftian/cosmic horror movies that were made (imo The Tall Man is another example of a good Lovecraftian movie). The better question would probably be if Lovecraft and/or cosmic horror is people's interest, and though there's a decent sized audience for it, Lovecraft and/or cosmic horror isn't always most people's cup of tea. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@robodd4694
@robodd4694 Ай бұрын
All fantastic movies! With the heart and soul of Lovecraft. Money does not equal quality. Del Toro could do this as he's shown he's done fantastic work without the $ (200 mil I mean) and/or rating.
@lonl123
@lonl123 Ай бұрын
MoM is my favorite Lovecraft story....I hope Guillermo can finally make it before we go into the ground.
@robodd4694
@robodd4694 Ай бұрын
What? I have never heard of MoM. Don't think Lovecraft ever wrote a story called MoM.
@lonl123
@lonl123 Ай бұрын
@@robodd4694 I am assuming you are being facetious...It's an acronym, MoM: Mountains of Madness just in case you aren't.
@robodd4694
@robodd4694 Ай бұрын
@@lonl123 Actually I was being duuuuuh. But I understand now lol. Sheeesh I think it's late for me and my brain is rotted by to much YT. thanks for the clarification even though now I feel stupid LOL. And I totally agree with you. I pray he does make it as well.
@lonl123
@lonl123 Ай бұрын
@@robodd4694 All good. :)
@aubreymorgan9763
@aubreymorgan9763 Ай бұрын
its one of my favorites too. heck crowd fund part of it at least. we want the movie..but his budget in mind does seem pretty crazy. Pan's Labrynth is heavily visual and it only cost 19million at the time, hellboy 50 million. he wants half a billion? less is more with lovecraft he can do it cheaper and it'll probably be better.
@7F0X7
@7F0X7 Ай бұрын
A lovecraft film could never be PG-13 because the assholes who set the ratings would automatically give it an R-rating even if there wasn't a single drop of blood or a single whiff of human nudity. They would just bend the rules or make up new rules because it's too "frightening" to them.
@user-pt8mu9wg3i
@user-pt8mu9wg3i Ай бұрын
my question is why would u want it PG?
@6Haunted-Days
@6Haunted-Days Ай бұрын
Not how that works child….are you even serious? What TF use your brain
@7F0X7
@7F0X7 Ай бұрын
@@user-pt8mu9wg3i I think you meant PG-13, and I want it to be PG-13 to prove a point: That true horror isn't about torture porn or lots of gore, it's about consequences and realization, or put simply; It's about correlating the contents of one's knowledge.
@user-pt8mu9wg3i
@user-pt8mu9wg3i Ай бұрын
@@7F0X7 fair enough my friend fair enough.
@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145
@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 Ай бұрын
Don't know what you're talking about, there are a TON of PG-13 horror movies. A lovecraft film could very easily be PG-13, no problem at all. But it would probably be better if it was R. True horror isn't about gore, but it's not exactly kid-friendly either. It's a little weird to think that a movie for 13 year olds should be as frightening as a horror movie for adults...
@WhatIsMisophonia
@WhatIsMisophonia Ай бұрын
Astonishing how movie studios manage to stay in business when they have no sense for movies.
@PandoraDanger
@PandoraDanger Ай бұрын
This is fascinating and I really enjoyed a lot of the points you made. I can't wait to hear more from you in the future.
@BlackReaper0
@BlackReaper0 Ай бұрын
Stop motion Lovecraft by del Toro sounds like a dream.
@FonceFalooda2
@FonceFalooda2 Ай бұрын
Dude, I love this, but "Gee-AIR-Mo", not "Gee-Mair-Oh". :p
@user-pt8mu9wg3i
@user-pt8mu9wg3i Ай бұрын
Dude its Know-It-All not FONCE
@FonceFalooda2
@FonceFalooda2 Ай бұрын
@@user-pt8mu9wg3i Man, if it wasn't the guy's name, I wouldn't have said anything, but our boy here went on about how big a fan he is, all the while just CONSTANTLY mispronouncing his name. That's nuts. I'm not THAT polite. ;)
@jorgecastillo6159
@jorgecastillo6159 Ай бұрын
@@FonceFalooda2 I think gee-yeah-r-mo is more accurate, not to bash on anyone, it just shocked me too that there was mention of him being an avid fan and then the mispronunciation
@nickbotic
@nickbotic Ай бұрын
@@FonceFalooda2yeah no it was driving me nuts too. It’s a great video, not taking surfing away from the creator, but Jesus look up one single interview where the man is introduced first lol
@djdksf1
@djdksf1 Ай бұрын
We still have Guillermo's 'Frankenstein' to look forward to. Should be an interesting take.
@JamPunchStorytelling
@JamPunchStorytelling Ай бұрын
Cool video 😀 I would love to see a new Lovecraft adaptation
@melancholoid
@melancholoid Ай бұрын
Awesome Vid! Thank You very much for Your Work! Greetings from Germany
@stephenmccagg
@stephenmccagg Ай бұрын
Apparently I've been living under a rock, I had no idea he was working At the Mountains of Madness into a movie, that would truly be wonderful! And no he wasn't viciously racist, yes in his younger years he had racial fears that you can pick out here and there in a few stories, and he had a black cat that he gave an unfortunate name, but he regretted those thoughts by his late 20s early 30s, expressed in letters to his circle of fellow writers... something no one mentions because it doesn't fit the modern narrative.
@Kneon_Knight
@Kneon_Knight Ай бұрын
He didn't name the cat, his relative who gave it to him did.
@mephosto
@mephosto Ай бұрын
his wife was ethnically jewish. he was a sheltered child who was uncomfortable with anything unlike himself.
@Jedi_Mind_
@Jedi_Mind_ 17 күн бұрын
@stephnmccagg Apparently, you should take the time to read Lovecrafta correspondences with Robert e. Howard and the 2017 bio of lovecraft by w. Scott poole. In these you will see Lovecraft ranting about the inferiority of “ Slavs, Italians “ and debating with Robert Howard about the precise point in history that Jewish people became “parasites“ all the while Lovecraft was living in a “parasitic” relationship with his wife Sonia green( who was Jewish and wrote about the way he would become hysterical when they would walk around New York in mixed race crowds and he would lose his mind ] while she worked herself to exhaustion and he sat around with his buddies discussing literature, since he could never hold down a consistent job. He thought of himself as a delicate New England gentleman who couldn’t be bothered with a 9 to 5 job so he sabotaged many opportunities that his friends tried to get him . ( but to hear Lovecraft tell the story it was as if immigrants and Jews were taking the jobs and preventing him from working , bum )One of those buddies was a white man named James Morton who advocated for African-American rights and showed his solidarity by living in Harlem. When lovecraft returned from a visit to Charleston South Carolina, where segregation was in full effect, he wrote several vicious letters to James Morton condemning African-Americans as “subhuman“ and pointed to Charleston as “proof” of the fact that blacks were inferior and “no honest biologist would deny that blacks are inferior“. Lovecraft wrote this while a white anthropologist named Franz Boas was beginning to publish work that definitively crushed these racist ideas and inaugurated the first anti-racist era in academic discipline, but Lovecraft in all his wisdom missed it. Instead Lovecraft subscribed to wacky crackpot historical theories that were debunked before his lifetime, like Margaret Murray‘s “God of the witches“ theory which basically says that Blacks Asians and Arabs were the original “demons“ in European mythology before they were driven out of Europe by “Aryan invasions“ so for you to write that he wasn’t really that “vicious“ in his racism shows a lack of knowledge or you’re just making excuses for him, which is why the 2017 biography would really help. If you like Lovecraft work as a writer then you like you lovecrafts work as a writer, nobody’s faulting you for that, we just don’t understand this almost devotional need to explain away everything inconvenient about his character, it takes nothing away from the literary merit or your admiration for people to just admit that he was plain racist, it’s almost like you need him to be a saint God like figure before you give yourself permission to like him. We just don’t understand it
@teamarcaniun336
@teamarcaniun336 Ай бұрын
God if only MOM was adapted
@Milton2k
@Milton2k Ай бұрын
Quick tip: Guillermo... is pronounced like "Guillotine", with a "Y" "Guiyermo" like in "What we do in the Shadows" series. Great video. Greetings from México.
@libertycowboy2495
@libertycowboy2495 Ай бұрын
So...Gizmo?
@TheGeneralOf93
@TheGeneralOf93 Ай бұрын
… “the studios mandated a PG13 rating”? Really? For a Lovecraft adaptation? Do Universal actually know who Lovecraft is? That’s similar to asking that Nolan make a
@user-cx7kg6ok9b
@user-cx7kg6ok9b Ай бұрын
They did that back in the 70s. Then director Michael Cimino ruined it for everyone with "Heaven's Gate" being way over budget, way over schedule and lost millions in the box office.
@fnorazril
@fnorazril Ай бұрын
A singular lack of scope and vision on production companies. More interested in bottom lines and profit returns. Sure, you need to make a buck to stay in business, but Guillermo has a great track record for nailing the aesthetics of some truly gnarly critters. Shame that this is going to sit and collect some dust for awhile.
@chooch_mcgee
@chooch_mcgee Ай бұрын
And now AI Video tech will be the next cost cutting
@skandral1339
@skandral1339 Ай бұрын
Great video!!!!! very interesting.. 😃
@ChurchofCthulhu
@ChurchofCthulhu Ай бұрын
I like Guillermo, but he was way st👀pid on this one. He said he needed 200 million and an R rating, that means he was going to completely rewrite (and thus destroy) the original story. AtMoM would be one of Lovecraft's easiest stories to adapt. Depending on actor cost and CGI fx, you could do it easily for 20 million. The story reads like a Nat Geo documentary, only has 2 "action" scenes, and maybe half a dozen scenes needing CGI. And it's a PG story, there is nothing R rated about the original.
@randallbesch2424
@randallbesch2424 Ай бұрын
Oh then dissected and dismembered human bodies are sokay now?
@CB-ke7eq
@CB-ke7eq Ай бұрын
I have to call BS on his 200 million budget. If Godzilla Minus One can be made for less of a 10th of that, ITMOM can be made for 100 million and be an R rated film and still make a lot of money and be popular.
@zacetto
@zacetto Ай бұрын
I really wanted to love ‘The Shape Of Water’ for all its romanticism and mystique but found myself shuffling uncomfortably in my seat throughout. When my wife asked what was wrong, I opined that the whole ‘Deep Ones’ lore cut a bit too deep for me to fully appreciate what was a beautiful and affecting film. In a way, the majority of people who have loved this film have - if anything - only a fleeting insight into Lovecraft. G.D.T.’s love for H.P.L. makes the lore hard to shake. I often wonder if I had no knowledge of this lore, how I would have reacted to what is already a superb film?
@williamdistefano5698
@williamdistefano5698 Ай бұрын
MPAA... the original Karen
@blatherskite3009
@blatherskite3009 Ай бұрын
The main problem with adapting "At The Mountains of Madness" is (imho) that John Carpenter already went there, using so many themes from the story in his version of "The Thing" - the isolated snowy setting, the other team that met a sticky end, the attack on the dogs, the shapeshifting creature, the fact that the "thing" is an alien from another world that's lain dormant until disturbed, and that it'll spell doom for mankind if it reaches human civilisation - that any faithful adaptation of the Lovecraft story is going to seem derivative, just because Carpenter already got there first with the best bits of "At the Mountains of Madness." If you think about it, the parts from the original story that Carpenter _didn't_ use were basically the bits that wouldn't be very cinematic anyway, i.e. archaeology (piecing together the story of the alien civilisation from exploring their "abandoned" city and looking at the historical murals they left) and ... giant penguins. Yep, giant blind cave-penguins. They work just fine on the page, but depicting them on-screen as something scary without raising unintentional mirth would be a challenge even for a director as skilled as Guillermo del Toro.
@jeremyjohngraham
@jeremyjohngraham Ай бұрын
What he said about it being about atmosphere, not scares. The hard part with lovecraft on film is you can hint and suggest and have that creeping unease, but eventually you have to see the monster. And if you don’t build up that reveal and execute it right you’ve just got another Godzilla, a big monster walking around. Incorporating the dread and the cosmic horror of it, I think Guillermo could do it. It must be drudgery trying to sell lovecraft to Hollywood execs haha
@dancreary3340
@dancreary3340 Ай бұрын
Oh shit, coming in hot with the east st Louis toodle oo...
@dieyng
@dieyng Ай бұрын
It's weird, after the whole renaissance of Lovecraft's body of work in the last 30 decades or so, we are now at a point again, that I am just happy to hear an introduction of him and his work, that doesn't try to diminish his accomplishments and dwell more on his personal failures than what his work means to horror in the last 50-60 years or so. Doesn't mean you can't mention it, I mean you did, but it shouldn't be used as a reason to devalue his influence on the genre or make everything about it. Also, the guy who wrote that Lovecraft wouldn't work as a film is from ScreenRant, they don't know shit. I mean, if he knew ANYTHING about the topic, he would know that there are dozens of films that incorporate Lovecraft themes.
@aubreymorgan9763
@aubreymorgan9763 Ай бұрын
anyone else now what a sleep over at Del Toro's house?
@z-beeblebrox
@z-beeblebrox 9 күн бұрын
Several years ago a script leaked which was supposedly one of Del Toro's drafts for At the Mountains of Madness. It...had problems. So I hope it was just some fan's fake interpretation, but it did cement for me a few important factors about getting this to work: 1) GOTTA keep the Shoggoth threat to a minimum. Lean too hard on that, and you just end up with the action movie version of The Thing, which gets silly fast, 2) no matter the strategy - but especially as a period piece - introducing modern scientific concepts into the mix is a mistake. Focus on the period stuff, and accept the storyworld as canon, don't throw in quantum BS, 3) never forget the ancient civilization is the star of the show, and the primary driver of the horror - that these long-dead creatures frozen in ice aren't actually dead at all. Don't assume this is an aspect worth simplifying, if anything it's worth elaborating on. 4) Finally, start us in the Antarctic. We don't need 20 minutes of college university humdrum slog to establish these characters, we need a terrifying mystery beneath a frozen wasteland
@nsob8897
@nsob8897 7 күн бұрын
Exactly right...work it the way it's written. That's the appeal of the entire story. It gives you just enough to keep you wondering and gently pressing the fear down onto the observers (whether they be the character or the reader). And they absolutely need to avoid overusing the shoggoth jump scare or any other tripe they think of to blast the screen with scary monster appearances. Build up, build up, build up.. If they can't find someone who can do that, don't even bother.
@currentofthesnake8486
@currentofthesnake8486 Ай бұрын
It will happened, the same time than "Blood Merian" will be finally made.
@mattbaldwin1150
@mattbaldwin1150 27 күн бұрын
Really great video. Check out a podcast called Best Movies Never Made. There’s an episode where they discuss this and go through a version of the screenplay that Del Toro was working on when James Cameron first came on board. Sadly it’s not a really faithful adaptation. But maybe since then he has written a version that’s closer to the source material. I for one would love to see a stop motion version.
@Seq-ei2pw
@Seq-ei2pw Ай бұрын
monster live adaptation oh damn del torro. the mini series and now monster live adaptation, now im a fan.
@jacksavere6988
@jacksavere6988 Ай бұрын
I get it, you love Guimerro Del Toro, but what are your thoughts on Guillermo Del Toro?🤣 (great vid btw)
@joelorozco
@joelorozco Ай бұрын
GEE MARROW. Moving on.
@user-de8ll9gy9p
@user-de8ll9gy9p Ай бұрын
Prometheus kidnapped the chance to make MoM
@pkthunder416
@pkthunder416 Ай бұрын
GHEE AIR MO or GEAR MO.
@josh2011miller80
@josh2011miller80 Ай бұрын
I just wanted to add my two cents about why a Lovecraft movie would be hard to adapt. I assert that the audiovisual spectrum can be just as unclear and abstract as the written descriptions of the inky evil of Lovecraft’s creations. To summarize: “Skill issue”
@weeturtle8058
@weeturtle8058 Ай бұрын
I would support a crowd-fund of this film if Del Toro gets to make it. I'd support a stop motion version, too. Looking at book to movie films like Annihilation, I think Mountains of Madness could be done.
@6Haunted-Days
@6Haunted-Days Ай бұрын
Crowd fund over 500 million? Ok 😂🙄🤡
@6Haunted-Days
@6Haunted-Days Ай бұрын
O and have you ever read it? I highly doubt this or you’d know how hard it would be to make it as well…..you’d know….but since you haven’t read any Lovecraft I’m sure not gonna waste my time.
@weeturtle8058
@weeturtle8058 Ай бұрын
@@6Haunted-Days Or enough to make studio investment more attractive. It's not impossible. Merely, unlikely.
@weeturtle8058
@weeturtle8058 Ай бұрын
@@6Haunted-Days No, you just waste your time making erroneous assumptions, apparently. Again, hard is not impossible, and it's not like Lovecraft left a shortage of visions to work from.
@sameoldsameold9239
@sameoldsameold9239 Ай бұрын
Stop motion Lovecraft? Mad God is fairly close.
@Milton2k
@Milton2k Ай бұрын
A PG-13 rating of a horror flick is for sure a red flag.
@Milton2k
@Milton2k Ай бұрын
IMO some flicks are better than the book, and viceversa. I like "The Shinning" movie much more than the book. Not sure about "Dr. Sleep".
@MisterFaucker
@MisterFaucker Ай бұрын
I recommend the 2007 Cthulhu.
@agm5424
@agm5424 Ай бұрын
He was not racist just straight up xenophobic. He didn't like people outside of his culture, I heard someone say that in his letters he really didn't have a good opinion of italian immigrants. Something else that I've heard is that what he really didn't like was "the uncivilized" or a lack of culture and /or care for traditions, order and high ideas/philosophies. And one can get that vibe by reading between the lines of his stories, most of his human antagonist were uncivilized creeps with hedonistic lifestyles (Call of chthulhu) or people who use esoteric/high knowledge for their own personal and/or nihilistic gains( Reanimator, Herbert West was a blondie and clearly the villain btw), like summoning and old one to just end it all, or sometimes both (Dunwich Horror). The thing is that he most likely got this ideas from his upbringing and kept harping on said opinions as a coping mechanism to deal with his crappy life, like a bullied kid that bullies others to feel better. And something that most of his detractors never point out is that his prejudices went away almost as as soon as he got to know someone of said "other groups" specially when his friends help him out in opening up his worldview, the fact that he fell in love with a Jw-ish woman and married her is a testament to that. By the end of his life his prejudices were almost gone, also shown by the change in his stories that went from the cosmic horror of the chthul mythos to the aspiring and surreal fantasy of his Dream Cycle. He's story of overcoming his beliefs that he's got since childhood should be a positive one but most of his detractors ignore that because they just want a witch to burn so they can call/present themselves as (self)righteous crusaders.
@PoeInTheDitch
@PoeInTheDitch Ай бұрын
He named his actual cat, and a cat in one of his stories, "N***** Man". Here's a poem he wrote in 1912: When, long ago, the gods created Earth In Jove’s fair image Man was shaped at birth. The beasts for lesser parts were next designed; Yet were they too remote from humankind. To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man, Th’Olympian host conceiv’d a clever plan. A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure, Filled it with vice, and called the thing a N*****. One can be both racist and xenophobic. "He wasn't a racist". Lol. Gtfoh.
@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145
@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 Ай бұрын
He was absolutely racist and straight up xenophobic. Whenever I hear people talking about his racism, they aren't "detractors" who "just want a witch to burn." It's usually fans of his who simply aren't trying to make any excuses for him. Changing his views later in life doesn't remove the prejudice from his earlier work, so yeah... when people talk about his earlier work, they talk about the prejudice (in between gushing about how much of a genius he was). If he made a more complete turn-around, it would be a more positive story of overcoming beliefs. But his prejudices didn't all just vanish. Maybe they would have continued to if he lived longer.
@bassvibasics479
@bassvibasics479 Ай бұрын
Guillermo is pronounced "Gi-YEHR-mo", not the several other ways you mangled it.
@athenian221
@athenian221 Ай бұрын
I could tell you were a big fan of "Gimero" Del Toro with how you skipped Blade 2 and HellBoy. 🙂
@iGame3D
@iGame3D Ай бұрын
AI will provide the best Lovecraft movies ever made, with almost no budget at all.
@user-qi6pv9jh7o
@user-qi6pv9jh7o Ай бұрын
If it comes out before Мудреныч makes second part of tobacco video, I'll get disappointed, but not surprised
@attackofthecopyrightbots
@attackofthecopyrightbots Ай бұрын
that insane game is never gonna come out :/
@ivomasivo5559
@ivomasivo5559 Ай бұрын
No, the movie you talk about is the fountain no cronos
@kthulhu4063
@kthulhu4063 Ай бұрын
Hey man, thanks for the video, I am a big fan of both Lovecraft's work and guillermo del toro, I did hear about this adaptation but it's nice to have all the informations about it !
@rosstrue3010
@rosstrue3010 Ай бұрын
My goodness there is no excuse for that mispronunciation.
@christianbrown7959
@christianbrown7959 Ай бұрын
Quick cheat in case you find it hard to pronounce his name correctly, it's Gee (as in Glee, but without the L) Jer (as in Jerk, but without the K) and Mo (as in Mo) sound it out, it will help a lot 😘
@user-cx7kg6ok9b
@user-cx7kg6ok9b Ай бұрын
Nope. In Mexican Spanish, that j is pronounced like a y. So Gee Yare Mo
@MRDLT00
@MRDLT00 Ай бұрын
5:12 People today keep saying that as they try to white wash how MASSIVELY racist most of society was back then, especially for Jim Crow America with it's massive KKK populous.
@tskmaster3837
@tskmaster3837 Ай бұрын
I'm glad Del Toro didn't make it because the center horror of At the Mountains of Madness are the Shoggoths, not the Ancient Ones. Let's see... enslaved Shoggoths rebelled against their masters, the Ancient Ones and prof Dyer feels kinship with the lost and out of time Alien slavers... whose slaves went on to also form humanity. Huh, that's a twist. Yes, there's a racist element to many of Lovecraft's stories but I don't think we can say what it is in some of them.
@randallbesch2424
@randallbesch2424 Ай бұрын
The Old Ones made their servitor species too smart and powerful. Shoggoths are fully alien, the other cells created mixed with those already in existence. Protoplasmic mountains of black jelly with constellation of glowing green eyes that could create any organ as needed.
@valeriacaissa4552
@valeriacaissa4552 Ай бұрын
To be honest: 1. I think it's possible to adapt it for WAY less. You don't need that much money for strange landscapes, you can just hire the right people, matte paintings are a thing. Same with monsters, you don't need to do everything in CGI and Del Toro should know this. It's just crazy how overblown budget has become and I feel the movie would be BETTER with a lower budget, because it would force the director not to go the Disney route in just pumping money into a VFX department with way too many people who don't deliver. 2. H.P. Lovecrafts racism is a non issue. Most of his works don't feature it at all. They do feature the fear of the foreign and unknown but that's not a bad thing and hell, the silver key story turns everything on it's head. There is probably just one single really racist story and that's not Mountain of Madness. 3. I love Del Toro but I his color grading is god awful. He needs someone who just tells him "no" (but that's true for close to everyone right now in movies and television, a lot of them are shit at light and color). 4. I never understood how Del Toro thought Prometheus was basically Mountains of Madness. It wasn't and it was a bad movie too.
@user-pt8mu9wg3i
@user-pt8mu9wg3i Ай бұрын
Lovecraft did for horror what Tolkien did for fantasy. On top of that isn't Del Toros house cool as F
@randallbesch2424
@randallbesch2424 Ай бұрын
He was not a vicious racist and as for being anti-sematic he married one. He got better with his automatic vices like racism and anti-Jew from his family his logical brain began to shed such crap. Starting in the 1920's with the darkly humorous "Herbert West: Reanimator" he describes a reanimated black boxer and Dean Halsey. both of them are described in a negative way from West's botched resurrections. The same with what the Ghoul and Deep One transformations do to the human form.
@kallianpublico7517
@kallianpublico7517 Ай бұрын
Yes, the problem is depiction. You must leave something out of frame and only keep it in frame for a small amount of time. Keep in on screen for a visceral impact of size without selling out the total image. The alien astronaut in Alien, the smoky appearance of Mr. Barlow in Salem's Lot, the titanic chain in "Sky Captain and the world of tomorrow". It cannot be an action scene otherwise it would end up like Godzilla. There must be a payoff, but how to stage it without it becoming "Starship Troopers.
@ariels3372
@ariels3372 Ай бұрын
thats weird ai was pg 13 but with a warning this is new
@donlengel4770
@donlengel4770 Ай бұрын
I think he could do at the mountains of madness.
@randallbesch2424
@randallbesch2424 Ай бұрын
@RepoManZ uh no it didn't.
@JDX28
@JDX28 Ай бұрын
Guillermo. It’s GEE ERR MOE. Not GeeMero.
@vanomzero
@vanomzero Ай бұрын
is it the dreamlands? cause that movie keeps getting delayed
@tomasverner5354
@tomasverner5354 Ай бұрын
It is absolutely clear from the video that it is At The Mountain of Madness they are talking about
@simondavis750
@simondavis750 Ай бұрын
If he wants to make a Lovecraft movie he had better hurry up, Jeffery Combs is 70 and probably wont be up for movie making much longer. I guess Nic Cage can do it. Colour out of Space was ... good?
@GodofMasks
@GodofMasks Ай бұрын
Good video! Glad this was recommended to me but for the sake of all that is holy in this world, please at least say the name of the man you profess to be a fan of correctly.
@mistermakebelieve
@mistermakebelieve Ай бұрын
Great video but even more amazing statement on the arrogance of gatekeepers. HP was not that good of a writer. His characters were terrible, he never had much of a plot other than to push the reader to see an over described monster. But, just as Del Torro said, his atmosphere is brilliant. Personally, I would rather see Dreamquest than Mountains but Mountains is far more accessible.
@Bob6662and3
@Bob6662and3 Ай бұрын
It's pronounced gee-YAIR-mo.
@caseypride
@caseypride Ай бұрын
Narrator: PLEASE learn how to pronounce the name "Guillermo." It's quite easy and the Spanish language is beautiful; give it respect.
@Milton2k
@Milton2k Ай бұрын
Lovecraftian horror by definition is weird. Most likely unspecific, grand scale, and with unsatisfying endings. For sure not for everyone. Talking about money... a big risk to produce if it requires a big budget.
@TerbInYourFace
@TerbInYourFace Ай бұрын
Love the Futurama nod
@aimeem
@aimeem Ай бұрын
I've always found Lovecraft hugely enjoyable. Nick Mamatas said that lots of people enjoy Lovecraft because we identify with the monsters. So there's definitely that "point and laugh as the rich straight cis white man finally realizes the Universe does not, in fact, revolve around him."
@user-cx7kg6ok9b
@user-cx7kg6ok9b Ай бұрын
It also doesn't revolve around the degenerates, perverts and freaks that make up the "woke" crowd, as much as they demand it do so.
@ehridium
@ehridium Ай бұрын
At The Mountains Of Madness is a good candidate for being turned into a movie, it even has a sequel The Shadow Out Of Time... Not all the characters have to be male, so there is room for romance. I would do Nyarlothotep, all atmosphere, so much room for character development. All of his "fragments" and super short stories have a lot of room for expansion.
@chiefbanana1093
@chiefbanana1093 8 күн бұрын
We need a faithful adaptation. Romance would ruin the movie.
@kennethscreations3138
@kennethscreations3138 Ай бұрын
There is no chance it will ever get made through Hollywood. With DEI and the cost, combined with strikes and PC attitudes nowadays. Japan, South Korea or Russia might make it though. Gou Tanabe’s Manga work is pretty good.
@Preda.Y
@Preda.Y Ай бұрын
isn't it pronounced goo-yer-mo?
@astillia6073
@astillia6073 Ай бұрын
no, more like Gi erl moe
@PoeInTheDitch
@PoeInTheDitch Ай бұрын
Almost: Gi yer mo. I'm sure that you're mostly referencing that this guy is prouncing "ll" as "l"...which is wrong. In Spain AND, possibly more importantly in Mexico (where del Toro is from), it is prounced "gi yer mo". "ll" is "y" in Spanish. Although, in South American Spanish-speaking countries, "ll" is more of a "j" sound. So, "gi jer mo". In no Spanish-speaking country is it pronounced "gi ler mo".
@Kneon_Knight
@Kneon_Knight Ай бұрын
Lovecraft was not racist, he was xenophobic. Big difference.
@chiefbanana1093
@chiefbanana1093 8 күн бұрын
Same thing
@Medquill
@Medquill Ай бұрын
Using One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest was a BAD example. The movie gives us the perspective from an onlooker. But it leaves some of the biggest things out - like the psychosis of Chief. The movie makes it seem like he's just in there because he never talks. But in the book it is Chief who we experience the story from. And with that we see exactly how severe his own mental illness is and why he's in the psych hospital to begin with.
@user-cx7kg6ok9b
@user-cx7kg6ok9b Ай бұрын
Yes! Someone who actually read the book. Thank you for that comment. Too many people only know the movie and are missing out on the true experience.
@Big_Dai
@Big_Dai Ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever really liked anything delToro has ever made.. not really. And certainly not to the standards common folk seem to do. He is decent at his job, but certainly not the second coming of Christ.. not even close.
@chuzzbot
@chuzzbot Ай бұрын
'Biblically accurate' is an oxymoron.
@Kneon_Knight
@Kneon_Knight Ай бұрын
No, the Bible is a book, and the angels are as described therein and in the source material it was translated from.
@thelrdroca9412
@thelrdroca9412 Ай бұрын
This buff00n actually called Guillermo del Toro, Gimero del Toro 0:39 🤦🏻‍♂️
@jamjamcamjam
@jamjamcamjam Ай бұрын
this video is great and i was genuinely shocked to see how few subscribers you have considering how high quality it is, but brother you GOTTA look up the pronunciation of names before recording cause you butchered Guillermo
@zombierequin3381
@zombierequin3381 Ай бұрын
fair enough.
@RSEFX
@RSEFX Ай бұрын
Those tests look very ordinary as in "seen stuff like this too many times/boring". David Lynch might make aa Lovecraftian film with a truly creepy nightmarish feel. Del Torro is far too MOR, visually.
@Milton2k
@Milton2k Ай бұрын
5:29 The math of this graph seems quite off. Only for example King Kong vs Godzilla 1962 has a budget of $200,000. USD. To be a 22,400%, it should have made around half billion. Yet of course it is true that horror has always been quite profitable, specially with small flicks.
@zombierequin3381
@zombierequin3381 Ай бұрын
King Kong v Godzilla is a unique example but the statistic is referring to producer John Beck whom spent $12,000 creating and editing a dubbed english version for Unviersal to release in the United States. It then made $2,700,000 at the American box office. Hence the ROI of 22,400%
@exaIgnus
@exaIgnus Ай бұрын
My friend, if you're a fan of him, at least pronounce his name right. It sounds like ghee-YER-mo
@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.
@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. Ай бұрын
Why should we as the audience or they as the studio be concerned with "racism"? "Racism" is an idealization of in-group tribal preference and out-group prejudical distrust that we evolved over the course of hundreds of thousands of years; it's an instinct and every bit a part of us as the need to copulate and the salivation at the scent of cooking meat. It's been the default setting for group interactions since the beginning and has only been suppressed for the last century or so to the detriment of everyone. Stay true to Lovecraft, keep the racism IN!
@niltoccosta
@niltoccosta Ай бұрын
it's so good to see lovecraft's fans acknowledging his racism.
@Donathon-qx8kq
@Donathon-qx8kq Ай бұрын
Yeah... but you know that his wife was Jewish
@randallbesch2424
@randallbesch2424 Ай бұрын
Xenophobia even so it got mixed in. Many names you know were also various levels of racism but good luck finding it is ever mentioned at all.
@abcde_fz
@abcde_fz Ай бұрын
Never cared for Lovecraft. It doesn't matter how many times he overused the words "hideous", "grotesque", "eldritch", "insane", "horrifying", or "the", he never put me in a place where I decided to sleep with the lights on. Oh well...
@maxgonzalez214
@maxgonzalez214 Ай бұрын
And the Aztecs inhabited North America not South America.
@6Haunted-Days
@6Haunted-Days Ай бұрын
Ummmm excuse me? I’ve read everything he’s done and there’s almost zero racism or anything like it IN the stories so just stop with the nonsense about somehow having to write out any racism? LMFAO 🙄😂🤣🤡
@JorgeRodriguez-my6ej
@JorgeRodriguez-my6ej Ай бұрын
As much as I like Lovecraft, any adaptation made now would be the sad woke garbage. Del Toro’s movies aren’t really horror either, they’re boring dramas with horror aesthetics.
@edwardspencer3906
@edwardspencer3906 Ай бұрын
Go send some money to orange jesus.. he's broke and wants YOU to pay his bills..then he can fight the demons of the real monsters.. wokeness!!!
@frankfrankerson782
@frankfrankerson782 Ай бұрын
Del Toro is a left winger and often can't help but inject his own politics into his movies. In Pan's Labyrinth, he has spanish communists as white hate good guys being hunted down by Franco's soldiers who are portrayed as simply evil. Odd considering the communists liked to torture priests and nuns. Then, in the shape of water, the good guys are a checklist of diversity. Deaf woman, black woman, gay man, a literal soviet spy depicted in a sympathetic manner. Meanwhile, the bad guy is basically a walking steretype. He's a straight white american who works for the US government and goes on some spiel meant to show the incredible hubris of muh evil capeetolist peeg america. Then he goes on to marital rape his wife. I can enjoy del toro's movies. I think he does an amazing job of making monsters and how he handles visuals, but he needs to piss off with his politics.
@Kneon_Knight
@Kneon_Knight Ай бұрын
Bot.
@maxgonzalez214
@maxgonzalez214 Ай бұрын
Guimero del Toro? WTF dude, research the pronunciation of the name before you start uploading videos about people.
@MRDLT00
@MRDLT00 Ай бұрын
6:05 I mean, I bet he said that...but knowing him, I'd be worried he'd try to shoehorn in a "fighting the fascists'" storyline that actually takes up the majority of the story instead of what we all came to watch it for like he did with Pan's Labyrinth and Pinocchio.... 😒😒😒
@boobio1
@boobio1 Ай бұрын
As much as I like Lovecraft, any adaptation made now would be the sad woke garbage. Del Toco’s movies aren’t really horror either, they’re boring dramas with horror aesthetics.
@Kneon_Knight
@Kneon_Knight Ай бұрын
Bot.
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