Mmmmmh.....I think I get it now......EV's and Hybrids are also 'safe and effective'.

The elephant in the room is that one car caused a modern £20 million car park to collapse and £30 million worth of cars were burnt/lost. Call me old fashioned…

Interesting question : have we ever seen in the past an inextinguishable car park fire of ice cars with 1200 or more burnt to the ground ? 🤔

I feel so nice and warm and safe knowing my best interests are at the heart of the wonderful people in charge of everything.

I had to deliver a Tesla model S back to the dealer, here in Australia this Friday just gone. It had been parked, big rainstorm caused some flash flooding in the street with drains backed up and the car was sitting in floor deep water briefly. The owner said a small amount came into the footwell. He drove it about 20 kilometres to a nearby town and parked it. Next day it was completely unresponsive dead. He went home, 200km away, took the key, Tesla told him water had entered the main battery pack. I had to drag it on, with nylon skids under the back wheels. When I got to the dealers, the service reception lady asked me to put it in the workshop. I mentioned it was dead and had been wet, "oh that one" was the reply. It got put outside as far from anything else as possible. They were not happy to have it.

You’d think the owner would come forward if it was just a diesel.

I have a salvage yard. On occasions cars catch on fire. I always let them burn out. Never ever has a fuel tank exploded. Never ever has there been flames under the car like in this video. I have even been driving around with cars on fire on my fork lift(always back up, don't go forward). Only electric cars has plastic floors. Petrol and diesels has metal floors. It's not even hot under the car because the fire pulls in the cold air surrounding it. If the gas cap is on, most of the time the fuel is still left in the tank even when the car is totally burnt out. If you don't believe me ask a guy from a poor neighborhood to torch his car for an insurance claim(very common) and stand and watch. Don't forget your marshmallows!

Polar bears have increased in numbers significantly over the last few years. An interesting little side note, you probably already know and not the least surprised about.. much love Geoff

The problem is the ruling class

Never had these issues when cars didn't have all the "Ecological" electronics, and we just had a baterry and simple electrics, with a well tuned Engine.

Yeah,okay it was a "diesel" that started it. Do the authorities really think we're that stupid?

Top-Notch Service! I can't speak highly enough of EzyBook parking. The ease of booking, friendly service, and smooth transfers to the airport make it my preferred parking service. Plus, coming back to a well-maintained car is always a pleasant surprise. They gets a big thumbs up from me!

If it was a petrol or electric car isn't important. It is when a fire HAS started (regardless of cause) the problems start. It is almost impossible to put out the fire in the electric cars.

An EV battery burns at 2000C, steel reinforced concrete melts at 1500-1650C...need I say more

Maybe it was a convenient way to take 1200 cars off the road and cause more problems flying at the same time maybe?

Good point about the lack of thick black smoke. Never saw diesel burn relatively clean.

Bravo, Geoff. You just became a real journalist, and I mean that sincerely. You have more credibility that 99% of news media and I look forward to future videos. Edit: that ending was hilarious.

There are more Polar Bears today than there were in 1950!!

4:16 look how the flames are spewing out from that car this is typical fire of a battery diesel does not shoot out flames to the sides

Really enjoyed your summary of events, put a smile on my face despite the despair. Only observation is that video footage circulating of the front end of the vehicle in question, looks seriously fake - it's so easy these days to composite a fake on top of any original footage, something about the non fire side and wheel that looks too 'flat'

The question that needs to be asked is how many EVs or Hybrid EVs were in the car park fire. Would you get on a car ferry nowadays?

The car owner is probably staying quiet because they'd like to not think about how their insurance is going to screw them next time they renew.

Its a wonder YOUTube hasn't wiped this video yet, they don't like the truth some times. Brilliant piece. There was a film of an all electric Mclaren supercar fiercely burning away on a test drive in the Daily Mail the other day, can't find that film anymore.

Bill Gates, Karl Schwab, Soros, Bezos, Suckerberg, Buffet all shouting "it was a diesel" and the free world answering "it was an EV". What is amazing is that most of the people want it to be an EV. This shows the great future EVs have!

Diesel does not just burst into flames .that's a fact .it needs a lot of heat .even then it does not burn like this car did mainly in just one place to start with coming from where the battery would have been if it were an EV 😱😱😱😱

Give any editing person an hour and they can have video footage showing whatever plate number they like. My feeling is that this is an absolutely blatant coverup and nobody in the EV world wants to be associated with their version of the Exxon Valdez. Interesting side note. This has never happened prior to the current push of EV's. Didn't burn any ships with them either.

The fire service do not lie. An electric car probably was the cause of the severe damage but not the start of it.

Current government report states that current fire regulations are out of date and evs that are on fire should be out in a tank of water and the water should then be processed to remove all the contamination before being put into the water system.

Regardless of whether or or not the initial car was an EV (it was) , the fire would have have soon found an EV and from then on the fire was unstoppable. 15 fire engines can put out quite a big fire.

It was a hot fire with white smoke and the ferocity makes me believe it was a hybrid and the fire was burning down not up! If it was a normal fire the smoke would be darker and it would be burning upwards!

I watch Geoff not for EV fire news but because he hates ALL new cars and is entertaining. It is good to hear from others with a sane mind.

The reg no is obscured. The owner has been silenced along with the phone owners footage. The fire department is not sure. The insurance companies footing the bill must surely require the facts.

There is one oddity that no one has mentioned. Supposedly, the fire started on the top level of the garage. In the videos of the fire, the top level appears to be open (no roof). Yet, that video of the Range Rover shows a ceiling overhead---as in, it is NOT on the top level! Can anyone explain this discrepancy? Or, did I just see things wrong?

I want to know the implication of heavy EVs parked on multi-storey car parks designed in the 70s for Cortinas.

Dear Mr Viking Diesel fuel is notoriously difficult to ignite, unlike petroleum. It needs plenty of oxygen and burns with a cloud of thick black smoke so thick that it often makes the fire hard to even see. Denying the many and multiplying safety hazards of EVs is not doing anyone any favors, least of all EV owners and the entire EV industry. These problems should have been sorted out before even one of them came onto the market. When trains were first invented people accepted the particular risks involved because they could travel easier while doing so by horse had its own dangers, was fairly uncomfortable, and not particularly cheap either. There was a similar scenario with powered flight and many other new technologies including guns, and explosives, where the risks were clearly outweighed by the advantages. ICE cars have had over 130 years to iron out all of the safety issues, and have never been safer, more efficient, and relatively cheap to own, especially it you buy an old one that has been well looked after. We still have cars on the road built over 90 years ago that seem to be safer than modern EVs. Do you think that any of these EVs are even going to still exist outside of a museum or silly ideas in even 30 years' time never mind 90? Most of the ones currently being built will be lucky to have escaped the crusher in no more than 15 years. Either, they will have become completely obsolete or EV technologies will not have improved anywhere close to as much as they will need to if this industry is going to survive even 3 more years. Soon these problems are going to become folk law and when that happens the entire EV market will totally collapse worldwide. The cost of recalling these cars will alone cost countless billions. Insurance companies are now realising the massively extra costs of writing off virtually new cars and this is now being reflected in eye-watering rises in insurance premiums. Sticking one's head in the sand is not often a good idea but in this case, it is an act of 100% nailed-on suicide. You have far too much faith in the idiots that designed these death traps and you need to face the reality of the situation. It was done in a big rush because government handouts were on offer and legislation was promised, without the marketplace itself guiding EV development over a much longer period of time. This was a recipe for the utter disaster that it will undoubtedly turn out to be. Indeed it already is an utter disaster, not just for our car industries and their shareholders, which includes many people who have pensions, EV Suckers, sorry, Owners, but also for the environment itself. But far worse, the amount of treasure, human and natural resources that could have been spent doing something far more worthy and long-term to assist the poor and suffering of this world could have already saved many millions of lives, and provided for a much better future for many millions more. Perhaps you are not a religious person but I trust you have a conscience or some kind of natural human empathy. Are you so perfectly confident that these ever more depreciating incendiary devices are perfectly safe or safer than any of the alternatives? REALLY SURE? Have you considered that you may have already made yourself personally responsible for the death of even one human being, never mind several including children? When I finally depart this life I would very much prefer to know that I have never been responsible for such a thing, God or no God, judgment or no judgment. If anyone is paying you to promote these things then I most humbly suggest that whatever it is, it is not enough.

The people will pay for this will be all of us who pay motor insurance. Everyone’s insurance policy will increase by hundreds because, mark my word, the insurance companies will never make a loss.

Would be nice if the owner came forward with his regn.number for scrutiny. ;)

My brother's old diesel t4 briefly set on fire once, but that was due to haphazard diy electrical work from a previous owner. My brother was a bus electrician at the time, so swiftly noticed the smell and put it out before any major damage was done. He replaced everything to a professional standard, since it was his job. Sold it to me mate soon after, he still has it and it's never give him bother. Diesels are ace man.

What started the fire is irrelevant. The fact is once an ev goes up, its game over. They should be banned until we have an acceptable way to deal with thermal runaway.

I think we all know thermal runaway of lithium destroyed all those cars and car park. Looks like it started in a hybrid to me, but the EVangelist pile on has been pretty extraordinary. Anyway, we'll have more EV fires next week. Keep up the good work

I shared a observation of what I witnessed on here about a EV fire and I was banned for 24 hours and I witnessed it.

the EV dream is rapidly burning itself out…..⚡️🚗🔥

They are currently installing a row of EV chargers along my road (a very worthy use of council/government funding, don't you think?) "for when residents make the transition to electric vehicles" whilst simultaneously taking out an airport car park and triggering the stop of sales by rumouring it to be started by an EV. All part of the general plan to bring travel to a standstill. I'm just wondering, if they're left, how long they would burn for - do you know? The chargers are a greater distance from the front of my flat than the motility vehicle disaster and I'm hoping to save a little on the heating bill this year. Out of curiosity, are there any cases where the free energy from EV chargers has been hacked? Asking for a friend 🙄 To the powers that be - if you want to keep slinging us lemons, expect us to work out how to turn it into lemonade, every time. Thanks Geoff - love the honesty in your posts, looking for the facts every time rather than following the drama for the sake of it. Keep it up. ☺🤗

Even if the fire was not started by an EV, the number of EV in the carpark generated enough heat to collapse the structure... This would never have happened with a simple diesel or petrol fire. The fire was spitting out behind the left front wheel, where the battery is on a LR hybrid

I'm not sure it matters what car started the fire, if a car park is half full of EVs any fire that engulfs them will not be able to be put out quickly.

That appears to be a thermal runaway. The lack of dark smoke and side flame out is how a battery fire appears visually. Just my opinion.

I asked my council if they had undertaken a risk assessment in allowing EVs through a tunnel and multi-storey car park.. The Council's initial response gave no indication that a risk assessment had been undertaken for the special circumstances where an EV self ignited or was involved in a fire from a conventional petrol or diesel vehicle. The notion that staff can start to evacuate the tunnel or multi - storey car park before the fire and rescue service attends shows a complete ignorance of the danger to the public. An electric car has around 7000 "18650 type lithium-ion batteries" in paralell banks to reach the required voltage and it only takes one of these or the management system to malfunction to bring about toxic cyanide and cobalt fumes and a ferocious fire within a couple of minutes that is almost impossible to extinguish as the battery chemistry creates its own oxygen. Many such fires are left to burn themselves out. Time is of the essense and by the time the emergency services arrive it will be too late. The only solution is to ban all EVs from the tunnels and multi-storey car parks.

Bottom line is: We all have a choice - without the consumer buying EV's there is no market for them, therefore manufacturers will not produce them if nobody buys them...

Land Rover, worse recall history than a deaf sheepdog 🐑 🐕 🔇

It is not that important if an EV started it. That EVs were in the fire made it such a huge event.

Last night on the news it said that a young man has been arrested in connection with the fire at Luton airport . As for 1500 cars destroyed in the fire I'm not surprised considering how tightly packed they are next to each other .

By heck, in my day I had a Ford Anglia 🚙 that caught fire 🔥 15 times & still drove it tut work in blizzard. 😂

Do you think the Luton Airport are still charging Parking Charges for the cars left there 🤦‍♂🤷‍♂

The front and back number plates are completely different in those two videos. Some skulduggery going on there, methinks!

Petrol and Diesel burns at approx 850C, Concrete melts at 1200C, Steel melts at about 1550C, A Lithium Ion battery fire is in excess of 2000C. A Lithium Ion battery does not require Oxygen to burn, it's regarded as a chemical fire. Thermal Runaway will create it's own Oxygen regardless of what the fire service spray, cover, or use on a Lithium Ion battery fire. They basically just have to wait until it burns it's self out. That complete car park floor could have been filled with Petrol, and, or Diesel cars and the fire would never have been hot enough to make the floor melt and collapse. Only an EV, or Hybrid would have had the abbility to produce this outcome. The reason there is such a massive waiting list to get an EV serviced is because garages can not store EV's together. Their insurance companies insist that an EV must be stored a minimum of 15 metres from any other vehicle. Garages simply don't have this space. Oh and if you need a replacement Lithium Ion battery there is currently a 7 month wait for that as well.

The owner of this diesel car has been arrested. The car caught fire while he was parking it! He was late for his flight so he left the car and only reported the fire at the flight check in. This was too late!!

My last car was a susuki grand vitara xl (bought new) Diesel, i had it 17 years, funny as the only thing i had to change as it died and did it's job was the battery. It had it's usual service every year. Yep after 15 years the battery died, just bought a new one, job done. I really feel for those that have died in any car situation and even one life is to many. Nobody is blaming ev owners or anyone for that matter, it's called common sense to those of us in our older years. We all are human and everyday, eat, work, sleep and live our life the best we can, then we all die, yes that's all of us but fek me why doesn't the world governments work together and make what we have a great place and it could be. All that is going on is not the way most of us were brought up, it's all going nowhere fast. Breaks my heart.

I don't ever remember diesel burning hot enough to melt through steel re-enforced concrete 🤔

It was actually my car that caused the fire, I've been riddled by guilt, send deepest apologies for inconveniencing 50,000 people, and should have gone public days ago. I actually parked on the upper deck, but I noticed the deck starting to crumble and start to fall as I left the car - this was probably due to the sheer weight of my EV battery which is much heavier than the fuel tank, gearbox and engine of a normal car. This shocking incident caused a landrover driver's head to spontaneously combust - I think he just couldn't understand my choice of drivetrain. I couldn't save him, and left him resting near the passenger side of his vehicle as I ran for help. The rest is history. You were right all along, even though my EV was 300 times less likely to be involved in a fire, it was completely responsible on this occasion. You were absolutely right to not let the facts get in the way of a good story but at least your followers know the truth now.

I repaired petrol tanks for years. One of the ways we used to NOT blow ourselves up was to fill them with diesel. Liquid diesel doesn't ignite very easily. Like kerosene it has to be atomized. There had to be a lot going on with a diesel vehicle for it to catch fire. Including the ignition source.

Strange place to park a car. I wonder if the owner noticed the fire and ran off!

The footage from the front shows the car wasn't parked. It spontaneously combusted whilst being driven.

A recent study by US insurer, AutoinsuranceEZ found that hybrid cars had the worst fire record, while EVs were the least likely type of car to catch fire. Hybrid cars had 3474.5 fires per 100,000 sale; petrol cars had 1,529.9 fires per 100,000 sales and EVs had just 25.1 fires per 100,000 sales.Jun 20, 2023

I was so lucky that, with frost on my front windscreen, my car had a little ❄️symbol to tell me it was 2°c and frosty. Modern technology is so helpful in cars nowadays…

Well definitely a late model sport, so it could be a hybrid. I’ve been driving many many years, seen plenty of vehicle fires, but it is really odd that one is burning down the side - if it were a diesel leak it would have been under the bonnet - even though diesel is very hard to set fire to to. I suppose it COULD be something to do with a dpf, but I’ve never heard of one catching fire. I guess it’s possible but given there are thousands of poorly maintained diesel cars running round with blocked dpfs and they don’t seem to be spontaneously combusting. There’s a definite discrepancy in the number plates so those videos look iffy to me. All very suspicious. And as you say a simple diesel fire would not have the power to burn through reinforced concrete floors. You’d need something like a thermos lance, or perhaps a huge lithium battery! I’m sure the EV industry will happily stump up a lot of money to fog the issues and pass the blame onto other vehicles when they catch fire. They have invested huge sums in EVs which it turns out, no one is buying, so more adverse publicity has to be squashed. Did you hear the huge squeal of protest from Ford when Ritchie Whatsit announced the ( inevitable) postponement of the petrol/diesel ban? And they aren’t even leaders in battery powered cars, I mean who in their right mind would buy that repulsive Mustang abortion?

Imagine a carpark in the future, 100% EVs, and then one that catches fire. Welcome to hell on earth. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Schrödinger's EV car, both states can exist at the same time. They are both safe and dangerous 😂

Looking at the front and rear photos of the red Range Rover, my initial impressions are that: A. The number plates are different - the rear appears to have a 3-4 digit plate (private plate) and the front image appears to show a longer, more regular number. B. The front image of the car appears to have been photoshopped and looks like it’s either been edited or added in to the frame. It looks unnatural, especially the drivers side - it just doesn’t look right. It’s almost as if the original car has been covered over with the Range Rover image. 🤔

The insurance company will know what kind of car and if it was EV the insurance companys will jack up EV insurances.

Not withstanding the car insurance to cover these vehicles is astronomical and therefore who can afford them. Imagine if that vehicle wasn’t insured

I was in the Navy and I had extensive fire fighting training and I have seen many fires fueled by diesel. That fire does not look like diesel fuel burning. Diesel fuel really doesn't burn that easily. It take quite a bit of heat to get it burning. In fact you can poor diesel on a hot exhaust manifold as the engine is running and it will just bubble away and turn into smoke. I am sure this is not the first time there has been a car fire in a parking garage such as this. But this is the first time I have ever heard of one burning so hot that it collapsed. What we do know is this, EV's are the only cars that spontaneously combust. We also know that if an EV get in a accident it has to be quarantine because it just may catch fire at any moment. We also know that EV batteries burn very hot and are very difficult to extinguish. So as the old saying goes "If it walks like a Duck and quacks like a Duck it's a Duck"!

Can you imagine the insurance claim. What happened? My car caught fire. Were any other vehicles involved? Yes. How many? 1,200. Any other noticable damage. Yes. Describe in detail. Multi-story car park completely destroyed. Will this effect my no claim bonus?

If a few hundreds or thousands of EVs filled all the streets and parking lots near the houses of parliament, I wonder if security forces would clear them out as a potential fire risk? That would be one quick way to detect if they are being insincere.

when i first saw the pictures of the burning range rover my first thought was its ev or hybrid, (diesel dosent like to burn) the only reason i thought its ev or hybrid is because of where the fire is coming from, hibrid batteries on this make of car is under the passenger seat and the fire looks like its having a thermal runaway attack

Despite how the fire started everyones Insurance premium will be adjusted to pay for the damage this fire caused, as it has always been the case since motoring began, that is the job of the 'Loss Adjusters' who are responsible for that very small print on your insurance docs.

Hi Geoff, TODAY after speaking to a friend who works at the Luton Airport Fire Department and who has confirmed the car fire was caused by an EV Tesla and NOT a Diesel or a Hybrid Range Rover, we now have the proof unfortuantely which is bad news for the EV market, I certainly will not be buying one of these cars.

When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth…

Perfectly sums things up the situation with newer/new &EV veg cars really. They all got a lot of problems which can happily be passed on to us in the name of "Progress". Great vid 👍

I genuinely believe that whatever the car was that burnt, whether petrol, diesel, hybrid or EV, we don’t have the infrastructure to deal with a blaze that at some point will set an EV or Hybrid vehicle alight. No sprinkler system currently would put a fire out that had an EV or Hybrid burning within it. We know for a fact that there are not enough charging points available for the amount of EV and Hybrids that are now owned and therefore there would have been these types of vehicles parked across all floors. A lot of liability must lie with the construction of the modern car park. It didn’t have sufficient fire extinguishers or a sprinkler system or a system in place to deal with the potential fire an EV or Hybrid would cause. This for me is my issue, yes I am a petrol head, I love the combustion engine it has taken over a 125 years to perfect, but I also believe that an EV or Hybrid are a sensible option for many. Until we can put the correct infrastructure in place to meet demand and the correct safety systems in place where these types of vehicles are parked, then there is a critical risk being carried by all insurance companies which in turn will be passed on to us as the consumer. There is no right or wrong answer, everyone will have an opinion, there will be the haters, the indifferent and the lovers regarding all types of vehicle. IMO the one size fits all approach is not the answer, there has to be some common ground that can find a solution that is variable to allow us to make our own choices without being attacked for that choice. Until then the MSM media will feed us misinformation, manufacturers who were put in a position to believe that no combustion engine vehicles would be sold after 2030 have invested heavily in changing factories etc only now to be told that it has changed to 2035, they now have a stock of EV’s without the level of buyers expected, sales have stalled, of course they are going to push the sale of an EV over a combustion engine, they need to make a profit. We will likely have a change of government at the next general election, will the dates change again? Whatever your preference the only losers will be us as the buyer. Our grandfathers/mothers fought for our freedom of choice, they would be ashamed that, that choice is being taken away from all of us whatever vehicle type you prefer. The answer, I don’t have a clue but I do want to choose for myself, that maybe EV or combustion as my life circumstances may change, but I will choose when that is, not when someone tells me too.

It's the same misconception about the temperature of the burning fuel that cannot be the cause of the destruction of a closed building. Burning anything start releasing thermal energy at the ignition temperature and will continue to do it above. That thermal energy will raise the temperature of the closed building, and can go well above the ignition temperature, until it reach an equilibrium between the thermal energy release by the fire and the thermal energy release in the outside air by the skin of the building. So the better the thermal insulation of the building the higher the inside temperature can be raised by the fire. Of course a thousand cars in flame will release a lot more of thermal energy than one car in flame. And reinforced concrete floors will start to lose their reinforced solidity when the inside temperature gets above 75% of the melting temperature of it's steel rebars. That why you can hammer a steel sword into shape when it is just red hot and not molten. But we should not worry. The progress of Science and Technology for the benefit of Mankind has been highjacked more than a century ago by The progress of Science and Technology for the benefit of the Investors. Some have invested in generations ago technologies and were happy to just sit on their Return On Investments. Some other have invested in newer technologies to produce the same goods and they want to invade the markets. The Old Money PR is fighting the New Money PR in the media and there's no way for us to make sense of it. So we just have to adapt ourselves to it.

Either way the building fell down because of the EV that were in the car park.

if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck & quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. that was a lithium battery fire.

Really good and absorbing video Geoff, thanks. There is irony in using polar bears as a means of evaluating environmental impact as the polar bear population is very strong and not in decline.

Fred Flintstone and Barney rubble never had these dilemmas.

Lithium is bad news whichever way you look at it, they used to use it to treat mental disorders. Many of the patients spontaneously combusted. Interesting. Thanks to Observation Deck for that info.

Geoff what we need to watch is how that vehicle is recovered. As per the car transporter ship being unloaded in Holland. They have to be in full hazmat. So when that vehicle is recovered we will have an answer.

Diesel doesn't burn in open air, it has to be under pressure or extremely high heat. You can't even ignite diesel with a torch in open air.

Standard reinforced concrete loses much of its strength when exposed to high temperatures over a long period; it basically dehydrates. More importantly, the faster the temperature rises, the more likely the concrete will spall, sometimes explosively. The mechanism behind heat-induced spalling is fairly simple. When concrete is exposed to temperatures above 212 degrees F, the boiling point of water, the moisture in the concrete turns to steam. If the temperature rises more rapidly than the steam can escape through the concrete matrix, the rising pressures exceed the strength of the concrete and it begins to spall. If a cementitious-based passive fire protection barrier had been applied to the concrete the collapse would most likely not have occurred. The material was tested using the RWS time-temperature curve, which was developed by the Rijkswaterstaat Ministry of Transport in the Netherlands to simulate a gasoline tank truck burning more than two hours. Such a fire in a typical 40-foot diameter tunnel would seriously damage 1500 square feet of tunnel lining. But more significant is the initial thermal shock applied to the barrier, consisting of a temperature rise of 2192 degrees F (1200 C) in the first 10 minutes. Research in the mid-1990s showed heating rate plays a large role in how severely concrete will spall when exposed to high temperatures. NIST Special Publication 919 notes that heat-induced spalling is also affected by original compressive strength, concrete moisture content, concrete density, specimen dimensions and shapes, and loading conditions. (The investigation found the problem was worse with the higher strength concrete because its increased density made it harder for the moisture to escape.) The Fireshield testing showed no cracking, spalling or debonding at the end of the two-hour test. The interface temperature ranged from 356 degrees F to 752 degrees F (180-400 C) for test specimens from 1.6 to 2 inches, respectively, well below the point of inducing spalling for most concrete types. In a nut shell it does not matter what type of car caused the fire, most likely the results would have been the same if they didn't have sprinklers or a fire barrier applied to the concrete. Stop with all the conspiracy theories, it was an accident and lessons will be learned from it. 😀

The word "legend" is bandied about all too often these days, but Geoff, I have to say you've clearly put a hell of a lot of effort into this series of videos about something 'the media' has been very quiet about and whilst I don't always agree with the conclusions you reach; I'm only here for your enthusiasm- not that I'm calling myself the self appointed arbiter of anything by the way, - on this occasion though, it's obvious to anyone watching that you've gone over, above and beyond to clearly demonstrate balance and fairness whilst not losing any of your usual humour and clear passion, and I for one am grateful. Thank you Geoff.

I bet the owner has been paid hush money.

As a "far right conspiracy realist" I've only recently come across Geoff's channel and can confirm he is now amongst my favourite contributors here on YT.

What is telling is the fact there is an empty fire extinguisher next to the car. If it was a diesel fire it would have been relatively easy to control, while a lithium fire would be impossible. Then there’s the explosion, diesels, and petrols for that matter, don’t normally explode. I saw a car burning on the side of the road, it burned for a very long time until the fire department turned up and put it out, it didn’t go bang. I don’t care what the official line is, i find it hard to fit a diesel into the physics.

When rich and powerful people have large amounts of money invested in lest say for instance, electric cars, then careless talk really can cost lives. This is roughly why I explain to people that politicians who earn mere thousands do not dictate to bankers who's bonuses start in the millions. Someone once told me how much it cost to have someone whacked. It wasn't a lot and that changed my whole analysis....

Burning diesel fuel can get to 800C, A thermic lance cuts through concrete at 4000C, EV battery can burn at up to 2760C, but the rebar in the concrete expand faster than the concrete which was the probable cause of the collapse of the floor.

authorities would have demanded this fire was caused by diesel, fire service would have complied, owner would be forced to comply, this is the corruption we're up against.

HI GEOFF CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW PRODUCING OIL IN THE UK CAUSES CLIMATE CHANGE BUT ASKING OTHER COUNTRIES TO PRODUCE OIL FOR US DOES NOT CAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE? SEEMS TO ME THAT ALL IT DOES IS MAKE EVERYONE IN THE UK POOR

In some respect, it doen't really matter which vehicle caught fire first as the utter devastation caused was obviously a succession of EV's/Hybrids doing their pyrotechnic best. You could see that by the nature of the fires - horizontal and vertical jets of yellow/red intense flames with very little smoke from individual fires. Diesel, once it catches burns with intense clouds of black smoke so I have no doubt that the utter devastation and particularly the spread of the fire had to incorporate loads of hybrids and/or EV's. Will we ever know the true facts. Just let them try and stop me using my woodburner or gas boiler!!

I think your conclusion should simply be ; please, please don’t be duped into buying these electric/hybrid vehicles they’re selling you a lie ! You may as well burn your money, before your car does it for you

A man in his 30s has been arrested on suspicion of criminal damage after a fire that destroyed more than 1,400 vehicles at Luton Airport. The blaze broke out on level three of Terminal Car Park 2 on 10 October. Bedfordshire Police said the man was released on bail while the inquiry continued. It is believed the man was arrested as a precaution and the investigation so far suggests the fire started accidentally due to a "vehicle fault". - BBC NEWS

Can i just ask, why are the owners being hidden? It's not like it was their fault. They were driving and their car caught fire. We should feel sorry for them as a car they purchased was unsafe and caused significant damage, their lives could have been lost if they had been driving at speed. If this is Land rovers car, where is the press release? They are accountable for this fire and the damage and flights cancelled. Why is this not the focus of the "media"?