Make sense tho XD

not to mention the flesh-regrowth sounds. the things this show makes us hear

Yes, the true Magnus Archives experience...

​@@yds2m "There won't ever be kissing in tma because it sounds gross, but we will let you hear gross fleshy sounds" lmao (I 100% agree with them though)

​@@savethebees2574 EXCEPT THEY HAD A KISS AFTER SAYING THEY WOULDN'T 😭😭😭

[Extended sounds of brutal pipe murder]

That would be funny

"lackluster packaging, but i don't care that much. Nikola would have a fit, though. Belly meat is very well marbled. look at that fat cap! this would be a fantastic candidate for low and slow cooking, if I cared to cook."

"Ooh, a mythic stomach tumor. Aw, but it costs O+ blood to play, terrible for my AB- deck."

"Unboxing people" I believe that's called a dissection

@@mackenziedillon295 what is dissection but an unboxing with extra steps

It felt like a fucking Fleabag interaction and I loved it.

Poor Helen... and poor Melanie for that matter

Is Helen included

Katherine Field y e s

Michael didn't either. He wanted to kill Jon to prevent the Unknowing, even though he quite liked the guy, I think. And I'm pretty sure he wasn't preparing his own ritual either. People sure have humanised the Spiral a lot, huh.

the gym statement made me think Jared and his kind sounded really nice? bodys r not cool, so why not makin' em cool for people who want it? maybe a bit weird, but 100% valid stuff

@@jaderush4141 well if you've read any of the works of Terry Pratchett one some of the most human concepts are lies when held to cosmic standards

He's less of a man than he was before.

@@nanahuatli2144 *Rightfully so*

@@nanahuatli2144 if the bible's to trust (its not btw!!) they took a whole womans worth of bone outta him twice so yeah, that was a lot Im sure.

Melanie would not have missed a second time.

So true, I was hoping he'd say that

This show is the best. Imagine dropping someone who's never heard about it on this episode. Watch them go ?????????

@@theprideling honestly this is great. Imagine a magnus archives abridged like this

I love this, "pleasure doing business" lmao

This might be my single favourite comment on any TMA episode so far, I'd love to see a series of those

Doom Coffin is an awesome band name.

Lisa Hartig its like 4 in the morning and im laughing to an empty house over this, thanks 😂

My thoughts exactly

Marilyn Manson who

Getting that hourglass figure. Kim Kardashian who?

God I’m so glad I’m not the only one who had this thought 😂😂

He appears in their nightmares, that's why.

I do get Melanies anger in this one tho. Maybe she just wanted to shout at him for catharsis here. Would totally get that.

My poor boy is trying so hard and suffering so much ;_;

@@americantoastman7296 People don't exist for other people to shout at them for catharsis. That's how you develop an emotionally abusive dynamic.

@@katara2021 so is performing nonconsensual surgery on someone tbf

Stabbing oneself and getting stabbed is different- someone who experienced both

@@randomtree7295 r u ok? what happened?

@@sunnlovesorange yeah it was years ago don't worry

That aside about not having a body being convenient was adorable and very sitcommy.

God, I loved that bit.

@@-S.L. Screamed genderless rights and tbh I never fucked w/ Helen more.

BEST description of Jared--

Don’t forget Gerry, we love him

@lila mansilla YUP

WAIT WHAT!!! Well this has been one shocking revelation and it shows how good the voice actors are but still WHAT!

eXCUSE ME

@@purplecatloverrandompizza yEp!! Jared Hopworth is literally just Alex J Newally with a cold lmao

wait WHAT

I feel like it could be covered in eyes

@@juliagross8288 Holy shit yeah, especially after that earlier statement

@@magnum_cx8805 witch statement?

​@@irca318MAG 127 Remains to be seen

@@CamilleChauTempsDesCerises thank you

He can always tear it out by force you’ve seen it or I guess heard it

The statement here seems to be more a means to an end.

necromancer here, but I guess you could say it was to make ends meat

hes addicted

ohh u on the road mate?

@@AckermanYuki I think they on the road

@@FreshSqueezedSlugs i sure hope the road work ahead

this revelation does things to me I can't quite explain

@@AckermanYuki on the road no longer 😔

Well, he had to lay down for a while after it. And he is just so driven to know stuff. Even when it's not really him, who wants that knowledge.

@@Companion92 isn't he going to be anchored to Jared Hopworth now as he has the rib too?

What was that in the Boneturner's tale about feeling like a glove getting pulled off?

the words were even more blurry than usual, but i always read the transcripts anyway!

Yep, still trying to find the transcript in the comments

I cannot understand hardly anything Jared is saying, so I feel this.

There's an angel down somewhere in the comments with a whole transcript. It was so well done and helpful. @Petra Ivan is their @, I think. I'm not sure.

I had to skip the whole statement and just read it because it was too much 😭 whoever is putting the transcripts in the comment sections of every episode is truly amazing

Help others? Or help the eye

I think he's just sick of losing people and if there's a tiny chance to save anyone, he's taking it, no matter what stupid decisions he needs to make for that...

@@devin201df I mean elias complained that Jon helping Melanie was good for her but bad for the eye since her not attacking anything and anyone takes a way protection so I´m pretty sure in the moment Jon just helps the people.

I mean, he unleashed a murderous monster to save a murderous human...

Exactly. He and Martin are so amazing and nice. Sasha was also like this :(

Istg like, Jon, ofc it's gonna hurt. Didn't the like the exact same thing happenen with Jude Perry????

He probably doesn’t need to at this point

@@triforceofcourage100 Don't worry, we know that he sleeps. That's when he walks through other's nightmares.

I think sleeping was out of question since season 1 😅 or like a luxury dream or sth

A Squelchy Meaty Rib

Thank you so much.

@@MT-kx7ff no prob mate

Thanks

Should be the first comment

ty !!

Hand wife

She's *handy* around the house

She's a great friend to have around. :)

"bone finger mommy" thats a new one

I can't leave, send help!

Very surprised he managed to read the book

@@apollyoniguess iirc it had pictures, maybe looking at them counted enough to start experimenting

How the hell did he sound normal when he was running a gym????

@@-S.L. My reading of Jared is that early on as an avatar before he was fully realized, he probably sounded (and looked) more or less like a normal person. While, like all the characters, there is minimal physical description of Jared, there are a handful of details scattered here and there in this and other eps featuring him, like the fact that he has at least 3 hearts, and has been harvesting "good bones" from people for years. In this ep he says he reached out toward Melanie with "some of [his] hands" not "both" of his hands, which communicates he has more than two. Also he mentions he began to take jobs where he didn't need to be seen by the public as his appearance became more blatantly unnatural. This information taken as a whole means Jared probably bears little resemblance to a baseline human at this point in the story. His ability to disarticulate himself to move through the pipe (and survive when thrown in the Thames from a great height) means he's fully realized (esp since we know he has used his Flesh powers to kill humans for the Ukranian mafia by this point). I think that the deep voice they use when Jared speaks, in addition to statements like "you could try" communicating that if John tried to physically fight him, he would be instantly curb stomped mean that Jared adding mass to himself has made him really really big. I imagine he's like 15 feet tall (but still has a normal sized head which looks tiny, to let you know he is evil) and the deep voice is meant to communicate his unreasonably immense size to the viewer. It's also communicated in how the normally haughty and unimpressed Jon who is regularly blase around super powered murderers like Distortion!Helen sounds cowed in the presence of Jared.

@@MegatronTarantulas I loved your reply, thank you! That's very thought out. :) And I had to laugh out loud at Jared having a ''tiny'' evil head.

I have feeling for her too 😼😼

Im afraid this one's lost to the spiral

jON WHY

I mean not *all* of them

Jarred could have taken those weird floating ribs

He could've just cut a piece of his ear, Van Gogh style. (I mean, that would hurt but probably would be better then a finger or a fuking rib)

@@borderlinecrazy6444 ^^^

‘mobile meat noises’

I love the sfx transcripts

And Jon...

@@justinjacobs1501 uh sure hope he is

@@fays.p.5663 this reply is sending me

Angry because she's trapped against her will, angry at Jon who's the same. Smh.

Martin: "No Melanie, don't take this job! Our boss is evil and you won't be able to leave D:" Melanie: "meh, whatever, where do I sign Elias?" *Months later* Melanie *yelling at Jon*: "ITS YOUR FAULT IM HERE, YOU'VE RUINED MY LIFE, YOU'RE SO INSENSITIVE!!" Jon, literally mutilating himself every week trying to find a way to save the world: "sorry 😥"

I try to be sympathetic to Melanie and understand her pain, but it's really hard for these exact reasons. She's made the wrong choices at every turn and keeps putting blame on other people or finding reasons to hate them.

Nah shes fine. Difference is, Jon chose to be mutilated :D

Yeah she's always like "IT'S YOUR FAULT I'M TRAPPED HERE!" b!tch he wasn't even there, it was during kidnapping n°3. The guy get mutilated everyday trying to find a solution but sure! He's to blame for everything that happened to you!

don't worry he's still there in our hearts! well.. Helen's heart, at least.

Jon Sims really out here making us relive all our cursed childhood memories huh

well, someone needs to feed the eye

Season 1 Jon: Over half of these statements are surely fake. I don't believe any of them, it's sad trash given by lunatics Jon now: I Am Willing To Sell My Soul For A Statement, Please Give Me More

Not a rib. *Two* ribs. One for him, one for Jared.

​@@dyld921Tbf only one rib was required for the statement. The other one is the anchor

True and it’s interesting since leightner said they were more condensed and concentrated form of the fears

The Flesh is just like "i mean... you're still scaring people, so go off, king do your thing"

signed

_jonathan sims takes the petition sheet and rips it in half in front of your despairing eyes, cackling maniacally_

He really is the punching bag of this series

Signed

Well, remember he gets ill as long as he's away from the archive, unless he feeds the Eye. So either way he would be doing his job.

Can't believe Alex was the one who did it.

I had to read the transcript while I listened

But she did? Or at least ruined some of Jared's friends bodies

@@brittanyashline553 Okay, she did kill some unnamed Flesh Avatars but THAT was self defense

Not for lack of trying

@@Lily-ge4tm ☠️

a good post and it's this why I don't understand everyone who says Melanie is or was utterly unlikable or who doesn't have any reaction to her beyond "stop blaming jon" I've always liked her and sympathized with her since the very start; I don't think she's necessarily right all the time or anything, but I can at least see why she thinks the way she does, and how much the trauma she's been through has screwed her up and yeah objectively speaking she is incorrect to blame Jon, but I can still get _why_ she does

impressive, he sounds very meaty here

I miss their chemistry from when she called him a pompous asshole and he implied she was off her rocker in his most pompous asshole tone. I don't miss her flying into a blind rage at him just for surviving an explosion and a coma and being an avatar of the Eye, none of which he chose. I'm relieved she's done screaming at him for the moment, though.

Nanahuatli you get it

@@nanahuatli2144 ^^^^^ YES

hey, med student here. he'll be fine. people have plastic surgery to remove their ribs and, while not recommended, there's no long term consequences to my knowledge.

@@amywilson7105 thank you very much, best of luck in your studies 07

@@f_mva aww thank you!

It made me gag once or twice

at what?!

what could possibly elicit that response I'm-

Every once in a while I download an episode and put it in my porn file

Mackenzie Dillon IM GAGGING.. yep... few seconds in... 🤢

Yeah, he has 'DOOMED' written all over him.

I hope he remembers to bring molotovs and pungent blood.

@@nanahuatli2144 and plenty of antidotes

[CLICK] [FOOTSTEPS ON STONE, VOICES SOUND ECHOEY] ARCHIVIST I was down here just yesterday, and there wasn’t - MELANIE Here. ARCHIVIST Oh. This, this door… It shouldn’t be here. MELANIE Yes. ARCHIVIST I, uh… I don’t want to open it. I’m not going to. [MELANIE SIGHS, KNOCKS ON THE DOOR] MELANIE She’s been helping us. ARCHIVIST [Sharply] It has never helped anyone. Not without a cost. [THE DOOR CREAKS OPEN] HELEN If I am an “it”, Archivist, then what does that make you? [THE DOOR CREAKS CLOSED] MELANIE Hi, Helen. ARCHIVIST [Coldly] I have been told you can help. HELEN I have been trying to. But the last time you were very rude to me. ARCHIVIST You’re still wearing her face. HELEN Not this again. I’m not “wearing” anything, Archivist. I am at least as much ‘Helen Richardson’ as you are the ‘Jonathan Sims’ that first joined this Institute. Things change. People change. It happens. ARCHIVIST We’re not people, though, are we? Not any more. HELEN Names. Categories. It’s all so important to you, isn’t it? You do know none of it’s actually real. It’s all just meaningless boxes. MELANIE Is… He still in there? HELEN Oh, yes. He’s not exactly something I can… digest. He’s a bit of an irritant, to be honest. If you’re looking to let him out, I could be persuaded. ARCHIVIST When did you say they attacked? MELANIE A couple of months ago. ARCHIVIST And he’s been in there… ever since? HELEN I helped clean up. MELANIE After I, uh… took care of things. ARCHIVIST All this time. Why didn’t anyone tell me? MELANIE Basira said not to. ARCHIVIST I see. Why didn’t you kill him? MELANIE I stabbed him in three different hearts. Didn’t work. If you want to go hunting for a fourth, knock yourself out. ARCHIVIST I…er… I’m alright, I think MELANIE So, what’s the plan? ARCHIVIST Right. I go in, I offer freedom if he… helps. Then I hope he doesn’t kill me. If he tries anything… HELEN I would suggest running. Try to find a door. ARCHIVIST Naturally. [DEEP BREATH] Oh, er… Er, pass the recorder? MELANIE Seriously? Fine. [RECORDER IS PASSED TO THE ARCHIVIST] ARCHIVIST Right. [THE DOOR CREAKS OPEN] [FOOTSTEPS] [THE DOOR CREAKS CLOSED] [ECHOES & STATIC AS THE ARCHIVIST WANDERS THE DISTORTION’S CORRIDORS] ARCHIVIST Hello? [MORE WALKING] Is, uh… Uh, hello? [KEEPS WALKING] Did I - [SOFT SQUELCHING STEPS] No. W-Wait… I came from… [WET, FLESHY MOVEMENT AND CRACKING BONES] Er, J-Jared Hopworth? JARED That’s what it says on me licence. (TRANSCRIBER’S NOTE: JARED’S SPEECH IS ACCOMPANIED BY CONTINUOUS SOUNDS OF WET, MOBILE MEAT AND THE OCCASIONAL BONY SNAP OR CLICK. TOO MUCH FOR ME TO RECORD INDIVIDUALLY. JUST TRY TO IMAGINE THAT AS YOU’RE READING… IF YOU CARE TO, THAT IS.) Mind you, the picture’s a bit out of date. [WET, MEATY LAUGH] ARCHIVIST Y-yes. JARED I try to kill you. And you throw me in here. And now what? You just walk in? ARCHIVIST I-I didn’t- That wasn’t me. JARED Your people. Your gaff. ARCHIVIST And you wanted to kill… me, specifically? JARED Still do. [OMINOUS SHIFTING, CRACKING & POPPING] ARCHIVIST Right. But… you know if you do, you’re never getting out of this place. JARED … What do you want? ARCHIVIST I, uh… I want a favour. JARED For letting me out? ARCHIVIST Yes. JARED Alright. ARCHIVIST Oh. O-Okay. D-Do you need to know… w-what it is? JARED Not much you could want, comin’ to me. Put summat in. Take summat out. Which is it? ARCHIVIST Take something out. A bone. A rib, probably. S-Something I won’t miss.

JARED Done. Come ‘ere. ARCHIVIST I, uh… H-How do I know you won’t just reach in and kill me? W-W-What guarantees do I have? JARED Guarantees? None. But I want to leave more than I want to kill you. Not like it was my idea in the first place. ARCHIVIST So… [Compellingly] Why did you and the others attack us? JARED I was asked. You want my statement, that’s gonna cost you another rib. ARCHIVIST I-I could just pull the information out of you. [MENACINGLY MEATY MURMURS] JARED You could try. ARCHIVIST Okay. Fine. A rib for me, a rib for you, your freedom and a statement. JARED Yeah. Alright. ARCHIVIST Right. Statement first. JARED … Fine. ARCHIVIST Uh. Statement of Jared Hopworth, the Boneturner. Statement begins. [THROATY LAUGH] JARED (STATEMENT) Where do you want me to start? Growing up? My folks? How ‘bout that growth spurt when I was nine? It left me taller than all the other kids. I hated them, the way they stared. But they were, and that felt good, even back then. It felt right. My Dad was proud of it too. He was a short man, bully, and watching me loom over people really made ‘im happy. Mum just scowled, but then… huh, she always did. I wrecked my school. I did have friends, but they left me, one by one, until all that I had were the dregs; the ones who stayed ‘coz they were too scared to leave. We were always either in trouble, or looking for it. Those were bad times. I tried to look ahead, but I couldn’t see anything. No future, no hope; just bitter parents, and whatever misery I could pass on to everyone else. God knows what would’ve happened if that little prick Sebastian hadn’t given me that book. I didn’t know what it was at first, not really. But it talked to me about bones and flesh and muscle and blood; the bits of myself I actually knew and liked. So I listened, and I read, and I learned. I fumbled through the lessons the book wanted to teach me, and my first try was clumsy. Stupid. Turns out, Dad didn’t like being tall nearly as much as he thought he would. And Mum didn’t like her new smile, either. So I left. I wandered around for a bit. Worked a lotta jobs where it didn’t matter what you looked like. There’s always a spot for someone who can get rid of people. You must have heard about me. I left plenty of people scared and crying, itching to tell someone what happened to ‘em. Some of them must have made it to you. There were others. Others of skin and hunger; they tried to talk to me about gods. They’d go on and on about remaking the world; of a new day of blood and flesh. I told them to piss off. I like the world just as it is. I take what I want and I make myself more, and when people look at me… that fear - it feels amazing. Some of my mates, the ones I helped find their proper bodies, they listened, and went to feed the hunger. Not me though. I never was that ambitious. The letters started comin’ in about two years ago. Good white paper, large print. Nice and simple. Dunno who sent them, they were never signed, and I dunno how they kept finding me. There was never much in them; normally just a name and a place or a time. I ignored the first couple, but they kept coming, and eventually I got curious. So, I followed the instructions in one of ‘em. I found Regan Hasnain of 70 Clairmont Gardens, and that got rid of most of my doubts. I don’t blame people for thinking that all bones are the same, most people don’t have much experience, but it’s not true. There are good bones, and there are bad bones, and Regan Hasnain had some very good bones in her. They were solid, healthy, and they jumped at my touch. I didn’t doubt the letters again. They came pretty regular after that. And they always led to summat good. Quality bones, a new mate, or some unlucky fool who wouldn’t look at me for the fear. It got so I trusted them. The letters, I mean. So I didn’t question them. There’s a lotta stuff in this world I’ve never understood, and these were no different. Then I got one about your lot, your Archives. Told me to go there and kill you. They even sent a picture. So I did. Well, I tried. Didn’t know about those tunnels or wherever this place is, but the pipes… they were wide enough for me and a few friends to squeeze through, bit by bit, one bone at a time. [DEMONSTRATIVE CRACKING ACCOMPANIES THIS] When we came up through the floor, it was wonderful. I don’t think I’ll ever forget the look on their faces. It was like their world had gone with the floor. The weak one legged it, and I thought the skinny one did too. There was just the copper. It weren’t dressed like one, but I know police when I smell it. They tried to run, but we were everywhere, and they couldn’t stop us undoing them for parts. You weren’t there, which was sad, but it made it easier. At least until the knife. I don’t know what the skinny one did, what she was, but that knife hurt. She screamed, and stabbed, and cut through all the others, ruining their perfect bodies. Then, she turned on me. Reached out with some of my hands, to get inside her, and pull her apart, and she cut them off. I got… scared. So I ran. I ran through the first door I found. And now I don’t know where I am. I’m startin’ to think the letters were a trap. Was it you? Did you want me here? ‘Coz if so, well played. Mind you, lot of trouble to go through just to lose a rib, so maybe not. That’s it, then. Do you want to do this, or what? ARCHIVIST That’s it? [HE SNORTS] Hardly worth a rib. [JARED LOOMS FORWARD] [Placatingly] Alright! Alright. Is it, uh… Is is going to hurt? JARED Dunno. Doesn’t hurt me. [THE ARCHIVIST MAKES IT BE KNOWN THAT IT DOES RATHER] [EXTENDED SOUNDS OF MEAT AND BONE MOVEMENT] That’s yours. What’s it for? [PAINED SOUNDS OF RECOVERY] ARCHIVIST [Stumblingly] Um… A, A-An anchor JARED Huh. Right. Anyway, this one’s for me. [MORE MOBILE MEAT NOISES, THIS TIME OF INSERTION] Huh. That’s a weird one. Not sure I like it. Still. Mine now. ARCHIVIST [Weakly] I supp… I suppose it is. JARED You said I could leave. ARCHIVIST Y-yes. Just, uh… I-If you start walking that way, I-I-I’m sure there’ll be a door for you. JARED There’d better be. ARCHIVIST Y-Y-Yes, I, uh… [COLLAPSES] [CLICK] [CLICK] HELEN Still alive? MELANIE Seems to be, yes. HELEN And he’s certainly holding a bone. For some reason. MELANIE Said it was going to be an anchor. HELEN Hmm. Bodies are strange. Rather glad they’re not my concern anymore. MELANIE Must be nice. HELEN It really is. MELANIE … Did you let that… thing go? HELEN He found a door. MELANIE [Alert] Where did he come out? HELEN The door may have been in a wall some distance above a river. [MELANIE CHUCKLES] MELANIE Nice. ARCHIVIST [Groggy] It… um? HELEN All done. ARCHIVIST Uh… [WINCES] Thank you. For your… uh. For your help. HELEN You are very welcome. I have decided that I support what you are doing, and I am happy to assist. I think we’ll all be much happier this way. MELANIE Basira’s not going to be happy that you let him out. ARCHIVIST Basira isn’t here. And if this works, I’ll have Daisy waiting for her when she gets back, so I don’t think she’ll be thinking too much about Jared. MELANIE You’re going now? [PAINED CHUCKLING] [PAINED BREATHING] ARCHIVIST No. No, now I am going for a lie down. That was… that was not what I expected. MELANIE Come on, you can use Basira’s cot. HELEN Good luck, Archivist. Be seeing you. [CLICK]

@@petraivan6778 thank you!!

You are welcome :)

Petra Iván thank youuu

Why do people repeat the same words slightly rearranged, over and over in a comment section

It seems like a justification for any kind of toxic and abusive behavior being enforced onto accepting victims by people, who don't have any sense of self-control, despite in this particular situation not only Melanie had a resemblance of self-autonomy and consideration she could get within the group, but also constantly separated herself from contact with others, giving herself full permission for her assessment of situation to be absolute over anyone's safety or concern (Like, for example, her attempts at killing Elias). And the unsympathetic attitude she shows towards other people who're trying their best to comfort her doesn't help her character to be seen sympathetic either.

I rarely comment, and this comment is kind of old but like !! This ! Was getting a bit upsetting to see so many people be rude to Melanie :( it’s some kind of bias - this kind of stuff happened back in season two with Jon’s paranoia, where comments would absolutely clown on him for misplaced emotions and lack of trust in Martin. Not exactly the same, but it’s in a similar vein and both are not good ! Not good indeed.

Melanie had far more control over her situation than most people in the podcast did. She is absolutely trying to suck in all the attention and sympathy whenever possible. There's a reason people stop feeling sorry for the ones who make public crying a sport. What they do is never going to help--it is a method of self-pitying and refusing responsibility for what you did to get and keep yourself there. She lacks agency because she chooses not to take any unless she can do whatever she likes whenever. She has a really childish brat personality.

My favorite thing about it is that it's utterly terrifying- And it's Alex

@@crystaltodd4737 FEAR THE PRODUCER

As far as i understud is that the coffin literaly won't let you die

Yeah, Breekon said he put Daisy in the coffin because he knew she’d be alive and suffering forever

The Buried doesn't want you dead.

I think when she tried to ask for advice/empathy at the end of 114 was the last time before she let go and fully fell into becoming The Distortion (she already was the distortion, but had been hanging onto the memory of being human imo)

If it's not too late, a lot of people struggle with understanding Jared here, including me, but you can look up transcript of the episode online or look for it in the comments! It's really helpful. Love this podcast, but the effects they sometimes use can definitely be too much

there's a transcript, look it up! they're linked in the wiki page of each episode :)

i also totally empathize with her. i used to struggle with anger issues and melanie’s anger doesn’t seem at all extreme, it’s just misplaced. she was manipulated into joining the institute, everyone keeps dying all around her, she seems to already have anger issues normally, she can’t trust anyone anymore, she’s stuck in one place with those same people she can’t trust, she had an anger bullet festering in her leg, they performed non-consensual surgery on her that she is traumatized by and has night terrors about. do i condone her treating jon like shit? no. do i understand why she’s doing it? yes. she has no other outlet to express her anger and jon is a very easy punching bag. but people seem really quick to dismiss all of this and are like “omg melanie die” “stfu melanie” “god i hate melanie”

@@faxonii youre so fucking right

@@faxonii Maybe people are like that because just how you are empathizing with her, others empathize with Jon. As someone who has anxiety I'm often not able to push back against people who are being assholes to me. I try to be polite, I back away. Her having problems is understandable. Other people hating her behavior is also completely understandable. And nice try reducing arguments against her to "people her calling her a meanie" when literally majority of the comments above have stated that they understand she has trauma but still dislike her behavior right now. Trauma isn't an excuse to at least try to control yourself. Literally every time she talked to Jon even before the surgery has been shitty. And she definitely targets him more than the others and that certainly is out of choice.

@@katara2021 Agreed. It feels like Melanie has been cruel to Jon before the bullet got lodged in her, even. I remember her getting angry at him a couple times before it. The way she seems to single Jon out feels flat-out toxic and unwarranted even as we know that she's suffered trauma.

@@AshGreytree Thank you. It's clear that what is happening is what happens in real life. When you can't punch the big boss or dismantle a vast system, your anger, wrongfully, locks onto an individual that is above you in the chain, doesn't matter if they too are literally stuck or suffering. All that matters is that they serve as a representation of all your problems. It was the same with Tim and later on even Basira. Melanie even got so far as to accuse Jon of being the reason she took the job as if he didn't try to warn her.

That would have been so fun!

I kind of like how basic he is in his desires. He's got his fleshcrafting skills and it makes him happy.

@@mimkyodar jus rearranging some boanes and shapes

Every episode of Season 5 so far gives me shivers

That's awesome! It's such a good series to binge!! Welcome to season 5